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Undergrad Ed: Michigan. BA Psychology
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA:3.5
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.2

1st DAT: Academic 18, Science 19, PAT 14
2nd DAT: will retake in June

Schools Applied: UMich, Detroit Mercy, Case Western, OSU, Indiana, Marquette (may add more schools later)

What do you think my chances are w/ these stats? My transcript is full of mistakes and I've pretty much spent all of this past year trying to correct them.

I know that UDM asks at least 18 in every section except for QR. They stressed me about an 18 in RC. An 18 AA may cut it, I dont know. However, you have plenty of time to improve your DAT.

 

[Missserica]

Soooo ... most of you are graduating seniors right? spring '05 right?

 

[edkNARF]

Just submitted my AADSAS! It is relieving and terrifying at the same time. Would anybody mind looking at my stats and giving their input. Thanks.

 

[ecdoesit]

Hi edknarf,
i might retake your DAT if you r serious about penn, harvard and uconn, etc. You should definitely get some research experience as well.

 

[onetoothleft]

Undergrad Ed: BYU
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.40 (180 credits)
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.45 (90 credits)

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 20/20/20
AA: 20 , PAT: 20 , QR: 21 , RC: 18 , Bio: 20 , G. Chem: 21 , O. Chem: 19 , Science: 20

Extracurricular/Research Activities:
Lab Research - 100 hours
Dentist Shadow - 50 hours
Volunteer, HIV clinic - 200 hours
Volunteer, other - 6,500 hours
Work - blood bank - 3,000 hours
other - BYU NewsNet graphics editor, BYU ballroom dance, BYU men's chorus, Assistant teacher (physics)

Schools Applied: Arizona, Tufts, Stony Brook, Columbia, Harvard, Boston U., NYU, Temple, UNLV

AADSAS Submitted Date: May 25, 2004 (AADSAS number 2##)

Schools Received AADSAS Date: June 22, 2004

Interview Invites: Columbia, Arizona, NYU, Stony Brook, BU, Tufts, Temple, UNLV

Denied: Arizona

Withdrew Application: BU, Tufts, UNLV, Temple,

Waitlisted: Stony Brook

Accepted: Columbia, NYU

 

[jayhov]

Undergrad Ed: Pace University, NY -- Major - B.A. Biology, Minor - Chemistry
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.46
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.57

1st DAT: April 17th, 2004
AA: 21
PAT: 17
QR: 18
RC: 19
Bio: 19
G. Chem: 20
O. Chem: 29
Science: 20

Extracurricular/Research Activities:
-Many Volunteer events
-Research - "The Anti-viral, Anti-Bacterial and Anti-Fungal effects of White Tea" <~~ Many press releases

Schools Applied:
(NY Resident)
Buffalo, Stony Brook, Columbia, NYU, UMDNJ, NOVA, UNLV, BU, TUFTS

AADSAS Submitted Date: 6.21.04 <~~ Today...FINALLY!!!

Schools Received AADSAS Date: hopefully soon

Interview Invites: ummmmmmmmm.....

Denied: ummmmmmm.........

Withdrew Application: NONE!!!

Waitlisted: ?!?!

Accepted: ?!?!

 

[DrTacoElf]

Undergrad Ed: BS Biology, Mary Washington College -- Just changed to university status (http://www.mwc.edu)
Finished up in 6 semesters by entering will 11 AP and taking the following # of hours per semester (15,18,18,21,21,21)
GPA's Including +/- from AADSAS
BCP GPA: 3.86
Science GPA: 3.87
Non-Science GPA: 3.61
Overall GPA: 3.79

1st DAT Taken on June 28th:
AA 23 98.4%
PAT 17 50.7 %
QR 19 82.1%
RC 22 85.3%
Bio 23 98.5%
GC 21 88.3%
OC 29 100% 😀
TS 23 98.6%

Extracurricular/Research Activities: GTEC Research Technician [Full time since July 2003], undergrad research project (not published), 3 different instances of DDS shadowing 30 hours/5 hours/5 hours, Endodontist shadowing - 4 hours, Habitat for humanity - 12 hours, Kaplan SAT Teacher, ER Volunteer - 60 hours, Dental, Medical free clinic volunteer - 70 hours.

Schools Applied: MCG, UAB, VCU, NOVA, TEMPLE

AADSAS Submitted Date: May 19th, 2004 (#107)

Schools Received AADSAS Date: June 16th, 2004

Interview Invites: MCG, UAB, VCU, NOVA, TEMPLE

Denied: None

Withdrew Application: None

Waitlisted: None

Accepted: MCG, UAB, VCU, NOVA, TEMPLE

Attending: UAB or MCG

 

[omaralt]

Undergrad Ed: University of South Florida, majored in Bio-medical sciences

Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.6

Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.5


1st DAT: 21/20/15
2nd DAT: Academic, Science, PAT (if applicable)

Extracurricular/Research Activities:
did research, over 50 hrs of volunteering

Schools Applied:
UF, NOVA, UMB, Howard, Case, UMDNJ, Temple, and SUNY @ Buffalo

AADSAS Submitted Date: June 2nd, (# 587)


Schools Received AADSAS Date: sometime next week according to AADSAS

 

[mikey13]

(feedback greatly appreciated)

Undergrad Ed: University of California, Berkeley
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.61
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.45
Major (Psychology) GPA: 3.83

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 20, 20, 21
2nd DAT: none

Extracurricular/Research Activities: Work in dental office: 60hrs and counting...; Dental shadow: 30 hours; Orthopedic Surgeon volunteer: 30hours; Berkeley Free Clinic Volunteer Dental: 20 hours; Greek Fraternity member holding leadership positions; 100 hours volunteering other than dental;

Schools Applied: will apply to: UOP, UCLA, UCSF, USC, Michigan, Boston U, UPenn, any others to reccomend??? (still deciding)

AADSAS Submitted Date: end of June 2004

N/A: (Schools Received AADSAS Date: (approximate date)Interview Invites:
Denied:Withdrew Application:Waitlisted:Accepted🙂


I am looking for any advice on schools to apply to and any feedback on the ones that I mentioned... Also, could someone let me know what the process is to send in the application without the letters of recommendation included? Thank you so much, Mike

 

[Red823]

Undergrad Ed: UCI
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.98
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.99
Major : Biology

1st DAT: Feb 2004
Academic, Science, PAT : 24/23/16 ( 🙁 )
2nd DAT: Retake? What do you think?

Extracurricular: Volunteer at hospital; volunteer at prenatal clinic; volunteer at American Red Cross; work in dental office for many years (7+yrs)

Research Activities: Yep! O-chem research lab. Got 3 publications.

Schools Applied: UOP, UCLA, UCSF, USC, UPenn, Temple, Arizona, Harvard, Tufts

AADSAS Submitted Date: June 2nd

Schools Received AADSAS Date: Still waiting for word 😱

Interview Invites: waiting

Denied: Hopefully not many

Withdrew Application: Hopefully none

Waitlisted: Let's hope not

Accepted: This would be Nirvana ! 😀

Question: Is it better to send the letters of rec directly to the schools or through AADSAS? And should I retake my darn DAT to improve on that PAT score? I suck at PAT !

Thanks,

Red

 

[Dr_Oh_DMD]

GOD I hate people like you !!!!! NO, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RETAKE THE DAT!!!!! Send your rec. to AADSAS...

Here is an old post that i found:

Undergrad Ed: Harvard University (major Bio-Chem)
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.99 (one A- in history)
Science Undergrad. GPA: 4.00 /graduated with HONERS
Graduate Ed: Yale University, PhD in Nuclear Physics and Space Shuttle Engineering
Cumulative Graduate GPA: 4.00
Science Graduate GPA: 4.00

I am 19 years old...

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT: 27/26/25 (I was not feeling well)
2nd DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 29/29/26

Extracurricular/Research Activities: 4 publications in JAMA (Journal of American Medical Association) and another 5 in JADA, 2 publications in ?Neurology?, 3 publications in ?Stroke?
3 years as a dental assistant
over 500h of side chair observation
1 year work in dental lab

Schools Applied: total of 40 schools but I think I will add some more ? the more schools I apply to the better my chances are, right?

AADSAS Submitted Date: June

Schools Received AADSAS Date: July

Interview Invites: everywhere

Denied: not yet but I am prepared for it ?

Withdrew Application: hell no

Waitlisted: not yet

Accepted: Only if I am lucky

Do I have a chance? I know that my stats are below average and my chances of getting accepted are VERY slim so any input will be helpful ? Thank you! 🙁

 

[drat]

Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: ~3.50
Science Undergrad. GPA: ~3.4
Non-science GPA: ~3.6
Major : Chemistry

1st DAT: May 2004
Academic, Science, PAT : 20+/20+/<20


Extracurricular: volunteering at various nondental places, shadowing 2 dentists, marathon running, tennis, golf, weight training, skiing, soccer



Schools Applied: Minnesota, Michigan, UCSF, Harvard, Columbia, Case Western, BU, Buffalo

AADSAS Submitted Date: Aug

Schools Received AADSAS Date: Oct

Interview Invites: Minnesota, BU, Case, Columbia, Buffalo. . .haven't heard from Harvard, Michigan, and UCSF is waiting for my AADSAS revisions (I screwed up on my classes -- didn't list them sequentially) but I got the link for the secondary

 

[UMDeeMan]

ok, it's official, this stats forum has gone down the tubes. nice stats everyone. LOL

 

[JRogoff]

GOD I hate people like you !!!!! NO, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RETAKE THE DAT!!!!! Send your rec. to AADSAS...

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I gotta agree with you there Boyan!

 

[blankguy]

ok, it's official, this stats forum has gone down the tubes. nice stats everyone. LOL

It's not even fall

 

[Biogirl361]

Here is an old post that i found:

Undergrad Ed: Harvard University (major Bio-Chem)
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.99 (one A- in history)
Science Undergrad. GPA: 4.00 /graduated with HONERS
Graduate Ed: Yale University, PhD in Nuclear Physics and Space Shuttle Engineering
Cumulative Graduate GPA: 4.00
Science Graduate GPA: 4.00

I am 19 years old...

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT: 27/26/25 (I was not feeling well)
2nd DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 29/29/26

Extracurricular/Research Activities: 4 publications in JAMA (Journal of American Medical Association) and another 5 in JADA, 2 publications in ?Neurology?, 3 publications in ?Stroke?
3 years as a dental assistant
over 500h of side chair observation
1 year work in dental lab

Schools Applied: total of 40 schools but I think I will add some more ? the more schools I apply to the better my chances are, right?

AADSAS Submitted Date: June

Schools Received AADSAS Date: July

Interview Invites: everywhere

Denied: not yet but I am prepared for it ?

Withdrew Application: hell no

Waitlisted: not yet

Accepted: Only if I am lucky

Do I have a chance? I know that my stats are below average and my chances of getting accepted are VERY slim so any input will be helpful ? Thank you! 🙁

hahahahahhaha LOL

is he for real? are you sure this isn't a satirical post making fun of people that come on here acting like they are worried about their obviously good stats?

i especially like the part about getting a 27 because of not feeling well. i almost (not quite) feel bad for the guy (assuming he wasn't joking/lying) because it is apparent he has some *major* insecurity issues. plus, he spent 160 bucks and lots of wasted time retaking the dat. still, i have to agree with you that i hate it when people with 3.7 + and 23+AA come on here acting like they are scared of not getting in. please

p.s. notice this "genious" spelled 'honors' wrong 🙄

 

[PERFECT3435]

that post is idiotic as it can get. no question that it was intended as a joke.

 

[t12kim]

Undergrad Ed: UCSD

 

[Love]

Undergrad Ed: Colorado State
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.2
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.3
Major : Zoology

DAT: June 2004
Academic, Science, PAT : 17/17/16 I was feeling great. Took the DAT w/out O. Chem and suffered for it.

Extracurricular: Strong

Research Activities: None

Schools Applied: UOP, Colorado, Creighton, Case, OSU, Temple. UK, UL, UNC

AADSAS Submitted Date: June 13

Schools Received AADSAS Date:

Interviews:

Denied:

Withdrew Application:

Waitlisted:

Accepted:

 

[trypmo]

my stats, posted somewhat belatedly.

Member of the Over 28 (years old) Club

Undergrad Ed: B.S. physics 2000
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.8
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.8
Graduate Ed: Ph.D. physics 2004
Cumulative Graduate GPA: 3.6+
Science Graduate GPA: 3.6+

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT 19/18/17 (I can explain: was writing dissertation 24/7 & didn't have time to prepare), taken 06/2004

Extracurricular/Research Activities: 6 years' research, 4 of them in biophysics, shadowing ~40 hours, volunteer work w/ middle school kids, internships/assistantships supervised, conference presentations etc., attended Texas Dental Assoc. conference 2004, built and implemented a small motorized chalk carving tool & showed mini-sculptures at interviews, blah blah blah

Schools Applied: San Antonio, Houston, Baylor

TMDSAS (for Texas schools only) Submitted Date: 06/2004

Interview Invites: San Antonio, Houston, Baylor (all 09/2004)

Denied: none

Withdrew Application:

Waitlisted: none

Accepted: San Antonio (rec'd 12/2/04), Baylor (w/scholarship) (rec'd 12/3/04), Houston (rec'd 12/4/04)

Attending:

 

[trypmo]

Extracurricular: Cannot list but this is why I will get in.

😕
uhh, ok.

And no, I won't ask why. 😉

 

[Dr_Oh_DMD]

Of course I was joking guys. Its just that people like this ask the stupid question ?do I have a chance? or ?should I retake the DAT? and that pisses me off.

SO, PLEASE DO NOT ASK IF YOU?LL GET AN ACCEPTANCE IF YOUR GPA IS OVER 3.7 AND DAT OVER 21

PS:
I wish I were that smart though 🙄

 

[trypmo]

I totally agree with you there, Dr_Oh. I have good GPA but not so good DATs which actually I'm too embarrassed to post, and it really does get me a little sore when someone like that comes in here and asks whether they have a chance.

Seemed like a couple of ppl were confused about whether the extreme example was a joke; that's the only reason I commented on it. It took me a while, though, to think it through and arrive at the conclusion that there just aren't that many hours in 19 years!

 

[v&andy_yankee]

Undergrad Ed: vanderbilt university, tn (fifth year senior, baby!)
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 2.204
Science Undergrad. GPA: 2.103

1st DAT: 11, 12, 10 (it surprised me that i did so well, so i decided not to take it again

Extracurricular/Research Activities: NA (i was researching last year but got fired for showing up high one day)

Schools Applied: columbia, upenn, harvard (eh, i only applied to 3 because i figured i'd definitely get in one of those three)

AADSAS Submitted Date: 6-10

Schools Received AADSAS Date: prolly the first mailing

Interview Invites: better be all!

Denied: better be none!

Withdrew Application: NA

Waitlisted: NA

Accepted: hopefully all, if they know what's good!

i think my chances with those schools should be pretty damn good. granted, my gpa isn't too sweet, but i figured i'd wow them in the interview--i already set up an appointment with my dentist to put porcelin veneers on my smile come late august. what's better than to wow them with a good smile?

 

[Biogirl361]

 

[Eddie830]

Undergrad Ed: vanderbilt university, tn (fifth year senior, baby!)
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 2.204
Science Undergrad. GPA: 2.103

1st DAT: 11, 12, 10 (it surprised me that i did so well, so i decided not to take it again

Extracurricular/Research Activities: NA (i was researching last year but got fired for showing up high one day)

Schools Applied: columbia, upenn, harvard (eh, i only applied to 3 because i figured i'd definitely get in one of those three)

AADSAS Submitted Date: 6-10

Schools Received AADSAS Date: prolly the first mailing

Interview Invites: better be all!

Denied: better be none!

Withdrew Application: NA

Waitlisted: NA

Accepted: hopefully all, if they know what's good!

i think my chances with those schools should be pretty damn good. granted, my gpa isn't too sweet, but i figured i'd wow them in the interview--i already set up an appointment with my dentist to put porcelin veneers on my smile come late august. what's better than to wow them with a good smile?

I may have to withdraw my application if more ppl have amazing scores like this...good job! 👍


😉

 

[Dentalist]

I thought Columbia, UPenn and Harvard did not have dental assisting programs. 😕

Troll Alert!!! 🙄

Undergrad Ed: vanderbilt university, tn (fifth year senior, baby!)
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 2.204
Science Undergrad. GPA: 2.103

1st DAT: 11, 12, 10 (it surprised me that i did so well, so i decided not to take it again

Extracurricular/Research Activities: NA (i was researching last year but got fired for showing up high one day)

Schools Applied: columbia, upenn, harvard (eh, i only applied to 3 because i figured i'd definitely get in one of those three)

AADSAS Submitted Date: 6-10

Schools Received AADSAS Date: prolly the first mailing

Interview Invites: better be all!

Denied: better be none!

Withdrew Application: NA

Waitlisted: NA

Accepted: hopefully all, if they know what's good!

i think my chances with those schools should be pretty damn good. granted, my gpa isn't too sweet, but i figured i'd wow them in the interview--i already set up an appointment with my dentist to put porcelin veneers on my smile come late august. what's better than to wow them with a good smile?

 

[PERFECT3435]

Love,

i hate to say this, but have you thought about retaking the DAT?

i would if i were you based on the schools you are applying to.

 

[edkNARF]

Undergrad Education:
Nassau Community College AS (Liberal Arts-Math and Science)
Cornell Unviersity BS (Biological Sciences)

Cumulative Undergraduate GPA: 3.5
Science Undergraduate GPA: 3.3

DAT: AA:19, PAT: 19

Extracurricular/Research Activities: No Research
Gateway to Dentistry Program (80 hrs.)
Shadowed ~30 hours

Schools Applied: UConn, Indiana, Boston, Harvard, Tufts, Michigan, UMDNJ, Columbia, NYU, Buffalo, Stony Brook, UNC, Case Western, and Penn

AADSAS Submitted Date: May 28, 2004 (#2XX)

Schools Received AADSAS Date: May 26, 2004 (Third Mailing)

Interview Invites:

Denied:

Withdrew Application:

Waitlisted:

Accepted:

 

[Dofu]

Undergrad Ed: Georgia Tech '99, Electrical Engineering; Georgia State Univ '03, post-bacc.
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.25
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.28 (BCP: 3.74)

1st DAT: Academic, Science, PAT: 21, 20, 21

Extracurricular/Research Activities: clubs including ASDA predental club, tutoring, intramural athletics, volunteer at public health dental clinic 500+ hours (15 hrs/wk)

Schools Applied: MCG, Nova, Baylor, UOP, USC, Arizona

AADSAS Submitted Date: August 14, 2004

Schools Received AADSAS Date: Oct. 2004

Interview Invites: Baylor, MCG, Nova, USC

Denied: UOP

Withdrew Application: AZ, Nova

Waitlisted:

Accepted: MCG

 

[Lumbee.Dr]

This is my first post, although I have been here many times before. Thanks for all the information and support you guys give 🙂

Well here are my stats:

Undergrad Ed.: UNCP (Graduating Dec.2004)
Cumulative GPA: 3.8
Science GPA: 3.8

1st DAT: "Jan. 2004" AA 16, PAT 16 (Other scores 14-20)
2nd DAT:

Extracurricular: Respiratory Therapist X 8 Years (Full time while in school)
Volunteer @ Free Dental Clinic, Volunteer Little League BBall coach, Volunteer GKAS dental campaign, Shadowing w/dentists, etc.

Schools Applied: UNC, VCU, Meharry

AADSAS submitted: 6/25 (# )
Schools received AADSAS: 7/23
Interview invites:
Rejections:
Waitlisted:
Accepted:

non-traditional female student, 28 y.o.

Obviously, my DAT is nothing to brag about. I took it to early. My 1st choice is UNC (being a NC resident), but VCU or Meharry would be great. I am dedicated to becoming a dentist!!! Good luck everyone, I look forward to posting again.

 

[PERFECT3435]

i don't know if this is another post thats meant to be a joke or not.

if its not lumbee dr, then i would strongly urge you to retake the DAT my friend. with those scores, your app will not be considered.
good luck.

 

[Lumbee.Dr]

Perfect, these are honestly my scores. My feelings are crushed. 🙁 No, but really I realize they are not 20s like most people around here, and after my retake they could still be in the teens. I can't devote 12 hours a day to studying because I am dedicated to my volunteer hours, job, my Genetics class in summer school, and the NC rural dental bus this summer. This is why I am only shooting for minimums 18. I don't think my application will go in the trash though. I can't let myself be discouraged.

I am studying read hard now, and I plan on taking the DAT again in August (I have already submitted to AADSAS). Hopefully, my new scores will be in admissions hands before they spit on me. I have been told by several people that DAT scores are not everything, "they are one day in the life of a student". I have a very strong GPA (from start to end), strong volunteer hours, and 8 years of direct patient care. Surely, if I only get my scores up to around 18, which is my goal, I will not get the door slammed in my face, will I? Am I being unrealistic by thinking that all of my strong assets will not out-shine an 18 DAT score? 😕

 

[PERFECT3435]

Dr Lumbee,

i appologize about any negative vibes that i may have sent. however, i am totally being honest with you. sure your application/profile is great. sure yo uare determined to become a dentist. your volunteer work, your extra curricular stuff etc are all good aspects of your life. but to say that having a 3.9 or 5.9 gpa will get you into dental school with scores of 14 just will not happen. this isn't meant to sound harsh or anything. i simply think that it would be a waste of your time and money to apply with scores of 14.
now, as you mentioned, if you do retake the DAT and get 17's and 18's then by all means you'll have a very good chance of getting in.
good luck and please keep us posted.

 

[RachMSU]

Undergrad Ed: Michigan State University
Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.52
Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.4
Graduate Ed: (if applicable)
Cumulative Graduate GPA: (if applicable)
Science Graduate GPA: (if applicable)

1st DAT: Taking on July 28, 2004
2nd DAT:

Extracurricular/Research Activities: over 120 hours shadowing a dentist, worked as an intern for a dentist for 150 hours, was in several clubs including human biology club, ADSA pre-dental club, pre-professional society, AED, marching band, campus band

Schools Applied: Detroit Mercy, UMich, Ohio State, Case, Nova, Boston, Tufts, Temple, Creighton, U of Louisville, NYU, Indiana

AADSAS Submitted Date: June 24, 2004

Schools Received AADSAS Date: (approximate date)

Interview Invites:

Denied:

Withdrew Application:

Waitlisted:

Accepted:

 

[Love]

Love,

i hate to say this, but have you thought about retaking the DAT?

i would if i were you based on the schools you are applying to.

No way, and I'll tell you why. Good friend of mine applied two years ago with identical DAT scores, and similar GPA. This friend, being concerned about his stats, applied to a ton of schools (~14)....long story short: He got in everywhere he interviewed. Indiana, Case, Pitt, Temple, VCU, Oklahoma, kentucky, UNLV and Arizona.

Now, I realize that was two years ago, and that the numbers get better each year but I am still sure of an acceptance....

To others reading my story, I know this is just one person I speak of but I would imagine it is quite common. Good luck.

 

[PERFECT3435]

WAKE UP CALL LOVE!!!!!!

you yourself put it best. your friend was 2 years ago. things have definitely changed by now. most will tell you that i'd be the last person to say someone will not get in. however, i would never ever believe or think that someone will get in with scores of 14-20 with AA 16. come on now. please someone tell me if i am the only one thinking this.

as for Dr. Lumbee, i am sorry i didn't know you were already planning on retaking the DAT. just get those 17.
good luck

 

[JRogoff]

I agree perfect...

I know a lot of schools have mins on all sections. Most schools have a min of 15 in all sections, some schools are higher. One of my buddies this past cycle got rejected from all 12 schools he applied to with similar stats.

 

[trypmo]

Don't feel bad, Lumbee.Dr -- I wish I had gotten to your post before The Disparagement Team here, so that the first response to your first post might have been a little more encouraging. Did you guys even see that this person has EIGHT years of full-time work in the health care field?? I think that in many cases adcoms will consider nontraditional students very differently from students who are right out of college and have no experience in, well, anything.

Definitely a good idea to re-take the DAT, though (but you knew that)!

 

[edkNARF]

BCPM Undergrad. GPA: 3.84

BCPM? You a former pre-med?

 

[PERFECT3435]

Definitely a good idea to re-take the DAT, though (but you knew that)!

hmm,

yeah. exactly.

if you go back and read my post, you'll see that i am suggesting exactly what you are saying. that puts you in our "team" then doesn't it? 🙄

 

[NCSMILES]

Perfect, these are honestly my scores. My feelings are crushed. 🙁 No, but really I realize they are not 20s like most people around here, and after my retake they could still be in the teens. I can't devote 12 hours a day to studying because I am dedicated to my volunteer hours, job, my Genetics class in summer school, and the NC rural dental bus this summer. This is why I am only shooting for minimums 18. I don't think my application will go in the trash though. I can't let myself be discouraged.

I am studying read hard now, and I plan on taking the DAT again in August (I have already submitted to AADSAS). Hopefully, my new scores will be in admissions hands before they spit on me. I have been told by several people that DAT scores are not everything, "they are one day in the life of a student". I have a very strong GPA (from start to end), strong volunteer hours, and 8 years of direct patient care. Surely, if I only get my scores up to around 18, which is my goal, I will not get the door slammed in my face, will I? Am I being unrealistic by thinking that all of my strong assets will not out-shine an 18 DAT score? 😕

Lumbee,

Welcome to the forum from a fellow NC native! Don't get discouraged, you have lots going for you and with your background you very well could get an interview at NC (even without re-taking the DAT--although that would help). I PM'd you with more information.

Good luck!
NCSMILES

 

[Love]

...most will tell you that i'd be the last person to say someone will not get in. however, i would never ever believe or think that someone will get in with scores of 14-20 with AA 16. come on now. please someone tell me if i am the only one thinking this....

Yeah, some of the schools are - at best - a long shot. My thoughts with those are "you never know" ...with the right letters, experience, and so on, you might just get an interview and from there who knows what can happen.

You tell Lumbee to get 17's (granted his GPA is 3.8) and he's fine. With the exception of PAT and O. Chem I got all 17, 19 and 20. Recall I took DAT before taking O. Chem, the presumption there being that if I scored on O. Chem the way I scored on other sciences I would be 18+...

I'm sure Perfect, JRogoff and others realize that if a school's average is 18, 19, 20, etc...that said school accepted students with 16's and 17's and those scores were balanced out by the many 20's and 21's.

So why be a nay-sayer? Some with better numbers wont get in, some with similar numbers wont get in, and some with worse numbers wont get in. This is nothing profound, it's just the nature of admissions. Still, myself and many others with similar and lower schools will get in.

Truth in the written form. Good luck to all.

 

[MEM3]

BCPM? You a former pre-med?

Nope.
Even though i spent a lot of time in the radio dept/er, I never considered applying to medical school.

 

[edkNARF]

Nope.
Even though i spent a lot of time in the radio dept/er, I never considered applying to medical school.

Just thought you were because of your post. BCPM is an AMCAS term, as opposed to the AADSAS equivalent BCP.

 

[MEM3]

Just thought you were because of your post. BCPM is an AMCAS term, as opposed to teh AADSAS equivalent BCP.

Oh, i gotcha.
When I signed up for a pre-health committee interview at my school, I was given a "BCPM" gpa calculation sheet that i had to fill out. I thought that was the standard. Maybe it's because most pre-health students apply to medical school at my undergrad?

 

[dentdoc]

Okay, here are my stats:
GPA: 2.83 Sci GPA
DAT: 19/20/17, AA/Sci/PAT.
what are my chances at the following schools?
All five Cali schools, UDM, Nova, NYU, Temple, Arizona and UNLV.
Any comments?

 

[PERFECT3435]

Love,

i hate to say this, but have you thought about retaking the DAT?

i would if i were you based on the schools you are applying to.

Love,

i never said that you wouldn't get in anywhere. what i am trying to tell you is that you'll have a tough time getting into the schools that you are applying to with your DAT scores/gpa. truthfully, i think you'll have a good chance at Colorodo (sine you are a resi) and temple. as with the rest (UOP, OSU, UNC, etc) i am not so sure my friend. but then again, like you said, maybe some other aspects of your application ie your statement letter would land you an interview. i know thats possible because i myself got an interview at ucsf last year with my 3.0 gpa and 15 RC. however, getting in will be a long shot at schools like that.

good luck to you and wish you the best.

 

[PERFECT3435]

Okay, here are my stats:
GPA: 2.83 Sci GPA
DAT: 19/20/17, AA/Sci/PAT.
what are my chances at the following schools?
All five Cali schools, UDM, Nova, NYU, Temple, Arizona and UNLV.
Any comments?

could you may be share some other aspects of yourself?
ie what kind of dental exp, extra curr activities you may have etc.

its hard to say that you will or you won't with just seeing your AA?PAT.

 

[dentdoc]

I worked with the homeless in downtown. I am involved with children's ministry at a church and I have worked with a dentist as a dental assistant for two years. Now, I am working full-time at a dental school as a support staff. Anything else?