*** 2008-2009 Secondary Application Thread ***

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iduwanna said:
Which schools let you submit the secondaries before you're verified. I know Columbia, GWU, and UC. Any others? Thanks.
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Actually, I thought I read somewhere on the GW secondary "Make sure your AMCAS is submitted and verified." Which I took to mean before you submit the secondary.
 
Do they have any cutoff for outstate?
 
"An experience that changed you"...
I've had so many experiences! it's hard to tell which one actually changed me.
How did you go on this ?

2/ I'm afraid I'll repeat myself on secondaries, but I don't wanna cut important points on primary either.

3/ If schools say "3 letters" but don't say "it's the max", then... maybe 5 ?

4/ Is any school above asking for a letter describing your interactions with patients ??

Something for you, Shemarty :
You were a TA for a Medical class, that's interesting! What was your job like ?
 
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Maruko said:
Something for you, Shemarty :
You were a TA for a Medical class, that's interesting! What was your job like ?
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It was an elective for med students, not a "real" lecture class. The class was called Vascular Disease and Treatment, there were 6-12 students in it each quarter, and we met at the hospital's Simulation Center. The center has a few endovascular simulators which allows you to perform angioplasty and stenting procedures. So throughout the class, the med students gave presentations about different types of vascular diseases in groups of 2-4, and then the second half of class involved performing procedures (on the simulator) to treat those diseases. For example: stenting a renal artery, stenting a carotid artery, etc. We also arranged for the med students to shadow the vascular surgeon in the OR as he performed real procedures.

I took the class last fall and then "unofficially" TA'd it in the winter and spring. I didn't get paid or units or anything, I just helped out with the class.

This involved scheduling things, working the AV equipment and the simulators themselves, showing small groups of med students how to use the wires/catheters and perform the procedures, etc.

Then I helped with the research project about how simulation can be used to enhance medical education. We collected data on how the students did before and after the class, how the class affected their interest in surgery or other procedure-based specialties, etc.

Yea, it was a lot of fun 😀 and I think/hope we're going to continue offering the class next year.
 
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chad5871 said:
I'm pretty sure part of their initial screen includes MCAT and GPA cutoffs. What are your stats?

Still no word for me, but I didn't expect to hear anything this soon anyway.
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It is an e-mail rejection, my GPA 3.38 (About same for BCPM), MCAT 33Q, Strong ECs, I Know my GPA is bit low, but...:scared:
 
BearsDoc said:
It is an e-mail rejection, my GPA 3.38 (About same for BCPM), MCAT 33Q, Strong ECs, I Know my GPA is bit low, but...:scared:
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im sorry am i understanding you correctly? you got a rejection letter already? 🙁
 
Do you guys know when schools start notifying people about interviews?
 
bozz said:
Do you guys know when schools start notifying people about interviews?
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Michigan has some auto interview invites, and I don't know if any other schools have this too. For the rest of the schools, I'm going to guess Aug at the earliest?

The committee has to review your file once you're complete. This can take awhile, I imagine?
 
BearsDoc said:
It is an e-mail rejection, my GPA 3.38 (About same for BCPM), MCAT 33Q, Strong ECs, I Know my GPA is bit low, but...:scared:
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I went to their pre-med open house this past spring, and they said that they received more applications this cycle than in previous cycles, and that the average MCAT accepted was higher as well. Maybe they're instituting cut-offs this year (maybe like 3.5 GPA and 30 MCAT). Sorry about the rejection - it sucks that it has to come so early in the cycle. 🙁
 
shemarty said:
Michigan has some auto interview invites, and I don't know if any other schools have this too. For the rest of the schools, I'm going to guess Aug at the earliest?

The committee has to review your file once you're complete. This can take awhile, I imagine?
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oh.. thanks for reminding me haha. I almost forgot I need to have my rec letters sent in 😀
 
Am I considering complete if I sent a packet of letters of rec., but then send in the last letter maybe a few weeks later? I just don't want to be considered late by waiting for a physician I shadowed to write a letter cuase I know he's busy and what not.
 
chad5871 said:
I went to their pre-med open house this past spring, and they said that they received more applications this cycle than in previous cycles, and that the average MCAT accepted was higher as well. Maybe they're instituting cut-offs this year (maybe like 3.5 GPA and 30 MCAT). Sorry about the rejection - it sucks that it has to come so early in the cycle. 🙁
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a 3.5 and 30 is a pretty lofty minimum for a secondary from a school whos average is about a 30 3.65....unless its only OOS????
 
ChubbyChaser said:
a 3.5 and 30 is a pretty lofty minimum for a secondary from a school whos average is about a 30 3.65....unless its only OOS????
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Well I was just throwing those numbers out there. I have no idea if they do any pre-screening based on GPA/MCAT, or what those numbers might be...

It might be that they only screen OOS applicants or that the OOS screening is tougher.

In any case, this is all conjecture and should not be taken as fact. 😉
 
chessknt87 said:
After looking at his post history (only 3) it appears that he got an email rejection from VCU as an instate, which sucks :S
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I am OOS, and the rejection came through email, saved me $80 if I have to look at the sunny side.:laugh:
 
BearsDoc said:
I am OOS, and the rejection came through email, saved me $80 if I have to look at the sunny side.:laugh:
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Better than Georgetown's "If you're below these stats you'll probably / definitely be rejected but feel free to send us the secondary fee anyway" email
 
BearsDoc said:
It is an e-mail rejection, my GPA 3.38 (About same for BCPM), MCAT 33Q, Strong ECs, I Know my GPA is bit low, but...:scared:
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What school rejected you this early ?
But keep your hope up, there're still other chances!
 
chessknt87 said:
What were the stats in that email?
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It's actually not an email, but, rather, on the front page of their secondary application.

GeorgetownSecondary said:
Dear Myuuchan:

Your interest in Georgetown University School of Medicine is appreciated.

Our Secondary Application information is released to all applicants for whom our office has received a verified AMCAS Application to inform them of our general review criteria and admissions process. Your application has not been reviewed at this time. We ask that you consider the following information before submitting the Secondary Application and non-refundable application fee.

The Committee on Admissions carefully reviews all completed applications. At the same time, it must establish academic criteria to reduce the volume of seriously considered applications to a manageable number. The following information is provided to help you judge your competitiveness.

Those invited for interview generally present a mean science Grade Point Average (GPA) of 3.6 and mean Medical College Admission Test (MCAT) scores of 10 for each subtest. Those considered competitive after interview have roughly the same academic credentials, stronger recommendations, and a more positive interview evaluation than those rejected after interview. Those accepted generally present a slightly higher mean science GPA and mean MCAT.

In 2007-2008, the School of Medicine received 11,236 AMCAS applications. Of the 6,887 completed applications, 1,107 individuals were interviewed to seat a class of 194 students. The Committee on Admissions strives for a diverse representation in the Class and reviews academic credentials, letters of recommendation, extracurricular activities, participation in health care experiences, and the interview evaluation when making its selections.

Please review both (a) the 2009 Guide to Application and (b) the Technical Standards for Admissions & Graduation prior to completing our Secondary Application.

Most of our students need credit-based educational loans from private lenders, or institutional loans. It is Georgetown's obligation to carefully manage these resources and to protect the University's access to all sources of support by maintaining an acceptable default rate. This protects both current and future borrowers. For this reason, Georgetown University School of Medicine requires all accepted students to submit a current credit report as a prerequisite for matriculation. Accepted students who do not meet established criteria with regard to their credit record (described in the Policies and Procedures) will be counseled, may not be eligible for Georgetown institutional aid, and, under some circumstances, may be required to defer their matriculation for one year to improve their credit rating.

APPLICATION INSTRUCTIONS

Please use the links to navigate your way through the secondary application. You may save your application at anytime by clicking on "save application." Once you complete all the links, click on "Preview" to review your application and print out a copy for your records.

Letters of Recommendation are handled ONLY through the AMCAS Letters of Recommendation Service as part of the AMCAS application.

When you are ready to submit your application, use the "Certify" link to submit your application to the Office of Admissions. Once you certify, you may not make any changes to your application.

We also invite you to complete the survey to provide feedback on the secondary application. Please be assured that your comments will be kept confidential and will not affect your evaluation.

We are delighted that you are considering Georgetown University School of Medicine. Be assured that we will give your completed application personal attention should you apply.

Sincerely,
Office of Admissions
Georgetown University School of Medicine
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How are you guys starting on secondaries when you don't even know which schools will be sending you secondaries? Are you just signing up on their secondary websites without any notification from the school via email?

I guess my question boils down to out of the schools you have applied to, which secondaries can you start on right away.


Note: My amcas has not been verified yet..
 
enjoydrywax said:
How are you guys starting on secondaries when you don't even know which schools will be sending you secondaries? Are you just signing up on their secondary websites without any notification from the school via email?

I guess my question boils down to out of the schools you have applied to, which secondaries can you start on right away.


Note: My amcas has not been verified yet..
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Any school that doesn't screen will send you a secondary. Some have already sent them out, so it's only a matter of time until you get one. A lot of the ones already available pretty much let you sign in without an invitation, though I don't recommend actually submitting until you've been formally invited.
 
hypnix said:
Am I considering complete if I sent a packet of letters of rec., but then send in the last letter maybe a few weeks later? I just don't want to be considered late by waiting for a physician I shadowed to write a letter cuase I know he's busy and what not.
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Bump 😀
 
I feel like an idiot. I am using interfolio for my LORs...and for stupid AMCAS I had to upload 7 lor request forms to my account.

Well for 5 of the schools...I sent out LOR Request form from Dr. X and LOR request form from Dr. Y, instead of the actual LOR....now I have to resend..which is about 30 bucks, and hope the medical schools dont think Im an idiot.
 
Still no BU.
I wonder how they are sending them out. Some people w/out a verified AMCAS have received it, but then some with a verified one have not 😕
 
Just got Vermont's

i'm at work so i can't open it up right now, but i'll update later with the questions if nobody else has
 
sss403 said:
Still no BU.
I wonder how they are sending them out. Some people w/out a verified AMCAS have received it, but then some with a verified one have not 😕
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i haven't gotten it either
😱

was hoping today ..
 
Just got Baylor's Secondary...

it MAKES you write about overcoming adversity.. aah
 
hypnix said:
Bump 😀
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first off, your still pretty early, even if you wait a week or two. But you're right a few weeks is probably too late.

You should probably let them know a letter is coming late or they mark you as complete and ignore the letter coming later on.
 
has anybody gotten tulane's secondary yet? it's a few weeks late . . .
 
How did you hear about UVM COM?

What Made You Decide to Apply to UVM COM?


There is also a place for additional info. Not sure of the character limit on the questions b/c i'm having issues with the application.

anybody else having an error on the page asking "how did you hear of UVM?"
 
are you a vermont resident?

amp3r5and said:
How did you hear about UVM COM?

What Made You Decide to Apply to UVM COM?


There is also a place for additional info. Not sure of the character limit on the questions b/c i'm having issues with the application.

anybody else having an error on the page asking "how did you hear of UVM?"
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Got the initial part of Michigan State's today... Don't know questions yet because I only got the payment e-mail... Supposedly I should get access to the secondary itself in 2 business days, post questions then!
 
Anybody else feel like their secondary essays sound like a load of BS? When I sat down to write some essays today, I felt really convinced by the themes and main points I was using. I even tried to inject some anecdotal evidence to support the claims that I make in them. Even so, I feel like my essays are not that great and won't be very "convincing" to admissions committees? Anyone have any advice?
 
sss403 said:
Still no BU.
I wonder how they are sending them out. Some people w/out a verified AMCAS have received it, but then some with a verified one have not 😕
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HMMMMMM.........does this sound familiar to anyone????
sounds alot like GW's situation not long ago to me....
 
I got BU's secondary on the 4th....
 
chad5871 said:
Anybody else feel like their secondary essays sound like a load of BS? When I sat down to write some essays today, I felt really convinced by the themes and main points I was using. I even tried to inject some anecdotal evidence to support the claims that I make in them. Even so, I feel like my essays are not that great and won't be very "convincing" to admissions committees? Anyone have any advice?
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Chad... I feel the same way. I dont' have any magical cures though... but red bull seems to help me out, if only so I can stay up longer working on them.
 
RapplixGmed said:
Chad... I feel the same way. I dont' have any magical cures though... but red bull seems to help me out, if only so I can stay up longer working on them.
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Well, you know what they say: misery loves company. I guess in all fairness my essays say what I think should be said in a concise, succinct manner. There's not really room in most of them to pull in elaborate stories and how they tie into the question being asked. I guess I'll just make sure I'm happy with them and send them on their merry little ways. 👍
 
just sent out an email about receiving primaries, but no word (as of yet) on secondaries. it just says they'll contact you if more info is required.
 
bozz said:
Just got Baylor's Secondary...

it MAKES you write about overcoming adversity.. aah
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I thought it says, "information you feel would be helpful in evaluating you," so maybe if it doesn't sound genuine to talk about adversity, don't. Talk about something that actually affected you.
 
no new secondaries today?
 
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