2008 Match Lists

[87138]

Exactly. It's a few short steps from an SDNer saying where they go to school from comparing a match list to MySpace to who knows where.

To be fair, not having a myspace (or at least being prudent in deciding what to put on such a page, should you choose to create one) is an easy way to put the kibosh on any further leaps.

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[Ashers]

To be fair, not having a myspace (or at least being prudent in deciding what to put on such a page, should you choose to create one) is an easy way to put the kibosh on any further leaps.

Putting weird stuff on Myspace/facebook, whatever didn't even cross my mind. Just that fact that people can then go look you up and find you on there because they then know your school (which is fine with me if people know what school I go to -- I post in the class threads enough) AND my name (I don't like it when people use my real name on here). Even with privacy filters it sets you up for a lot of unwanted emails and stuff.

 

[nevercold]

Having started all this mess, let me go back and say that there are several schools that have posted lists of applicants and where they matched on public internet pages. Personally, I am not comfortable with assembling information about people in that form, but apparently it is not uncommon and it is considered acceptable practice at several academic institutions. They probably consider the information to fall under the "directory" information clause of FERPA.

The specific language is:
"Schools may disclose, without consent, "directory" information such as a student's name, address, telephone number, date and place of birth, honors and awards, and dates of attendance. However, schools must tell parents and eligible students about directory information and allow parents and eligible students a reasonable amount of time to request that the school not disclose directory information about them. Schools must notify parents and eligible students annually of their rights under FERPA. The actual means of notification (special letter, inclusion in a PTA bulletin, student handbook, or newspaper article) is left to the discretion of each school."

I hope the highlighted portion was followed.

 

[Dedalus]

USC 2008

Anesthesiology (5):
NYU (med prelim at Harbor-UCLA)
Stanford (transitional at Harbor-UCLA)
UCLA
U Colorado (med prelim at U Colorado)
USC (med prelim at St. Mary Long Beach)

Derm (8):
Brown (transitional at NY Hospital Queens)
Henry Ford (med prelim at Olive View-UCLA)
Mass General (med prelim at Cedars Sinai)
Mt. Sinai (med prelim at Beth Israel Deaconess)
UCLA (med prelim at CA Pacific)
Harbor-UCLA (med prelim at Santa Barbara)
U Colorado (med prelim at Huntington Hospital Pasadena)
USC (med prelim at Cedars Sinai)

Emergency Med (14):
Brigham and Women’s
Case Western
Einstein / Jacobi
Northwestern
Northwestern
University at Buffalo
UC Irvine
USC (surg prelim at Harbor-UCLA)
USC (med prelim at Huntington)
USC (med prelim at University of Hawaii)
USC (med prelim at Advocate Lutheran, IL)
USC (transitional at Maimonides, NY)
USC (med prelim at Huntington)
Yale-New Haven

ENT (7):
Mass Eye and Ear Infirmary
UC Davis
U Michigan
USC
USC
USC
USC

Family Med (5):
Kaiser (Pasadena)
Naval Hospital (Camp Pendleton)
Scripps Mercy
Ventura County Med Center
Ventura County Med Center

Gen Surg (14):
Brigham and Women’s
Cedars-Sinai
Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena
Oregon Health and Sciences
Rush
Sinai Hospital, Baltimore
Tripler Army Med Center, HI
Harbor-UCLA
UCSD
UCSF, East Bay
University of Illinois, St. Francis
U Michigan
USC
USC

Internal Med (26):
Baylor
Case Western University Hospitals
Cedars-Sinai
Cedars-Sinai
Cedars-Sinai
Cedars-Sinai
George Washington
Oregon Health and Sciences
Kaiser Permanente, Oakland
Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena
Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena
Naval Med Center, San Diego
Prov. Portland
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
UC Davis
Harbor-UCLA
Olive-View UCLA
UCLA
UCLA
U Illinois, Chicago
USC
USC
USC
USC
U Texas Southwestern

IM / Pediatrics (3):
Duke
Georgetown
USC

Neurology (3):
Jackson Memorial Hospital, FL
Stanford (Med Prelim at Banner Good Sam, Phoenix)
UC Irvine

Neurology, Child (1):
USC (pediatrics prelim? at Harbor-UCLA)

Neurosurg (2):
Baylor (Surg Prelim at Baylor)
USC (Surg Prelim at USC)

OBGYN (9):
Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena
Kaiser Permanente, Oakland
Loma Linda
UC Davis
UCLA
UCLA
U Michigan
USC
USC

Ophtho (5):
Mt. Sinai (Med Prelim at USC)
U Cincinnati (Med Prelim at U Cincinnati)
U Iowa (Surg Prelim at Beth Israel, NY)
USC (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)
U Washington (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)

Ortho (14):
Case Western
Dartmouth
Mayo
Northwestern
UCSD
Harbor-UCLA
Harbor-UCLA
U Minnesota
USC
U South Carolina
U Washington
U Washington
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

Pathology (1):
Cedars-Sinai

Peds (17):
Children’s Hospital Boston
Children’s Hospital Oakland
Children’s Hospital Oakland
Michigan State, Kalamazoo
St. Louis Children’s
UC Davis
UCLA
U Hawaii
USC
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
U Washington
U Washington

Plastics (1):
U Chicago

Psych (10):
Northwestern
Stanford
Stanford
UCSD
Harbor-UCLA
Harbor-UCLA
UCLA
USC
USC
USC

Rad Onc (1):
USC (Med Prelim at U Hawaii)

Radiology (8):
Baylor
Cedars-Sinai (Med Prelim at U Arizona)
Maricopa Med Center, AZ (Surg Prelim at Maricopa)
USC (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)
USC (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)
USC (Transitional at Flushing, NY)
USC (Med Prelim at UCI)
Westchester Med Center, NY (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)

Urology (2):
UC Davis (Surg Prelim at UC Davis)
USC (Surg Prelim at USC)

 

[45408]

Putting weird stuff on Myspace/facebook, whatever didn't even cross my mind. Just that fact that people can then go look you up and find you on there because they then know your school (which is fine with me if people know what school I go to -- I post in the class threads enough) AND my name (I don't like it when people use my real name on here). Even with privacy filters it sets you up for a lot of unwanted emails and stuff.

didn't you used to have your myspace in your profile?

 

[Doublecortin]

USC 2008

Anesthesiology (5):
NYU (med prelim at Harbor-UCLA)
Stanford (transitional at Harbor-UCLA)
UCLA
U Colorado (med prelim at U Colorado)
USC (med prelim at St. Mary Long Beach)

Derm (8):
Brown (transitional at NY Hospital Queens)
Henry Ford (med prelim at Olive View-UCLA)
Mass General (med prelim at Cedars Sinai)
Mt. Sinai (med prelim at Beth Israel Deaconess)
UCLA (med prelim at CA Pacific)
Harbor-UCLA (med prelim at Santa Barbara)
U Colorado (med prelim at Huntington Hospital Pasadena)
USC (med prelim at Cedars Sinai)

Emergency Med (14):
Brigham and Women’s
Case Western
Einstein / Jacobi
Northwestern
Northwestern
University at Buffalo
UC Irvine
USC (surg prelim at Harbor-UCLA)
USC (med prelim at Huntington)
USC (med prelim at University of Hawaii)
USC (med prelim at Advocate Lutheran, IL)
USC (transitional at Maimonides, NY)
USC (med prelim at Huntington)
Yale-New Haven

ENT (7):
Mass Eye and Ear Infirmary
UC Davis
U Michigan
USC
USC
USC
USC

Family Med (5):
Kaiser (Pasadena)
Naval Hospital (Camp Pendleton)
Scripps Mercy
Ventura County Med Center
Ventura County Med Center

Gen Surg (14):
Brigham and Women’s
Cedars-Sinai
Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena
Oregon Health and Sciences
Rush
Sinai Hospital, Baltimore
Tripler Army Med Center, HI
Harbor-UCLA
UCSD
UCSF, East Bay
University of Illinois, St. Francis
U Michigan
USC
USC

Internal Med (26):
Baylor
Case Western University Hospitals
Cedars-Sinai
Cedars-Sinai
Cedars-Sinai
Cedars-Sinai
George Washington
Oregon Health and Sciences
Kaiser Permanente, Oakland
Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena
Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena
Naval Med Center, San Diego
Prov. Portland
Temple
Thomas Jefferson
UC Davis
Harbor-UCLA
Olive-View UCLA
UCLA
UCLA
U Illinois, Chicago
USC
USC
USC
USC
U Texas Southwestern

IM / Pediatrics (3):
Duke
Georgetown
USC

Neurology (3):
Jackson Memorial Hospital, FL
Stanford (Med Prelim at Banner Good Sam, Phoenix)
UC Irvine

Neurology, Child (1):
USC (pediatrics prelim? at Harbor-UCLA)

Neurosurg (2):
Baylor (Surg Prelim at Baylor)
USC (Surg Prelim at USC)

OBGYN (9):
Kaiser Permanente, Pasadena
Kaiser Permanente, Oakland
Loma Linda
UC Davis
UCLA
UCLA
U Michigan
USC
USC

Ophtho (5):
Mt. Sinai (Med Prelim at USC)
U Cincinnati (Med Prelim at U Cincinnati)
U Iowa (Surg Prelim at Beth Israel, NY)
USC (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)
U Washington (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)

Ortho (14):
Case Western
Dartmouth
Mayo
Northwestern
UCSD
Harbor-UCLA
Harbor-UCLA
U Minnesota
USC
U South Carolina
U Washington
U Washington
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest

Pathology (1):
Cedars-Sinai

Peds (17):
Children’s Hospital Boston
Children’s Hospital Oakland
Children’s Hospital Oakland
Michigan State, Kalamazoo
St. Louis Children’s
UC Davis
UCLA
U Hawaii
USC
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
Children’s Hospital LA
U Washington
U Washington

Plastics (1):
U Chicago

Psych (10):
Northwestern
Stanford
Stanford
UCSD
Harbor-UCLA
Harbor-UCLA
UCLA
USC
USC
USC

Rad Onc (1):
USC (Med Prelim at U Hawaii)

Radiology (8):
Baylor
Cedars-Sinai (Med Prelim at U Arizona)
Maricopa Med Center, AZ (Surg Prelim at Maricopa)
USC (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)
USC (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)
USC (Transitional at Flushing, NY)
USC (Med Prelim at UCI)
Westchester Med Center, NY (Transitional at Harbor-UCLA)

Urology (2):
UC Davis (Surg Prelim at UC Davis)
USC (Surg Prelim at USC)

very impressive, especially with 8 derms , 7 ent , and 14 ortho

 

[Ashers]

didn't you used to have your myspace in your profile?

Key words... used to, and I took it off and added extra privacy stuff. I also used to have my aim sn. I decided both of those were bad ideas after people started messaging me on there and someone else asked me at school if I'm Ashers. (or that whole sequence however you figured out who I was using myspace.)

 

[87138]

very impressive, especially with 8 derms , 7 ent , and 14 ortho

Agreed. Sure, I don't know a ton about which locations are "the best" for each specialty, but just the sheer number of people matching into competitive specialties is pretty cool.

 

[TheRealMD]

Even if the information is publicaly available, there is a difference between having it out in the open and aggregating it in an easy to use form. That's why the Bittorrent site TorrentSpy is no longer accessible to the US.

 

[nevercold]

Agreed. Sure, I don't know a ton about which locations are "the best" for each specialty, but just the sheer number of people matching into competitive specialties is pretty cool.

I would expect the same level of success at any of the top 25 or so medical schools or from the top 20 students at any US medical school. Question is, did the bottom 1/3 of the class get one of their top 2 choices?

 

[45408]

Key words... used to, and I took it off and added extra privacy stuff. I also used to have my aim sn. I decided both of those were bad ideas after people started messaging me on there and someone else asked me at school if I'm Ashers. (or that whole sequence however you figured out who I was using myspace.)

I figured out who you were because you had your picture as your avatar, and I recognized your name from your URL to your MySpace. Plus the thing with me meeting your sister before, and then you being my tour guide....

 

[carolinadoc]

Anyone have MUSC's match list?

 

[Kraft7]

WOW! USC ROCKED the competitive specialties!

 

[antihero94]

If anyone is interested in UConn's match list PM me. I have it, but I am too lazy to take all the names off it to post online.

 

[chigirl78]

Does anyone have Loyola or Rush?

 

[chaicos]

MD Students Outcomes ​

Class 2007SpecialtyHospitalState

Anesthesiology

Univ. of Puerto Rico
Transitional – Hosp. San Lucas
UMDNJ-New JerseyPR
PR
NWEmergency MedicineUniv. of Puerto Rico
Prelim. – Medicine Boston Univ. Med Ctr.
Boston Univ. Med Ctr
Yale New Haven HospPR
MA
MA
CTFamily MedicineChippenham Med Ctr
St. Elizabeth Med Ctr.
Rapid City Regional HospitalVA
KY
SDInternal MedicineU South Florida COM
SAUSHEC-Brooke Army
Lehigh Valley Hosp
Ochsner Clinic Foundation
Rochester Gen HospFL
TX
PA
LA
NY
NeurologyMedicine – Preliminar Augusta
Med Coll Georgia - AugustaGA
GAObstetrics & GynecologyUniv of Puerto Rico
U Texas HSC-San Antonio
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Hosp. Episcopal San LucasPR
TX
FL
PROphthalmologyTransitional-Hosp. San Lucas
Univ. of Puerto RicoPR
PRPediatrics Miami Children Hosp
NYU School of Medicine
U. Texas HSC-San Antonio
Mt. Sinai SOM - ElmhurstFL
NY
TX
NYPhysical Med. & Rehab.Transitional – Hosp. San Lucas
U Texas SW Med Sch
U Texas HSC – San Antonio
San Juan VA Med Ctr
Univ Of Puerto RicoPR
TX
TX
PR
PRPsychiatry New England Med Ctr
U Texas HSC – San Antonio
Jackson Memorial Hosp.
U Massachusetts Med School
VA/PSM
Boston Univ. Med CtrMA
TX
FL
MA
PR
MARadiology Transitional – Hosp San Lucas
Boston Univ Med Ctr
Transitional - Broadlawns Med Ctr
UMDNJ – New Jersey Med
Christiana Care PR
MA
IA
NW
DESurgery William Beaumont Army Med
Mercy Catholic MedTX
PASurgery, PreliminaryU Southern
Univ of Puerto RicoCA
PRTransitional Damas Hospital
Hosp. Episcopal San LucasPR
PR​

Top​

MD Students Outcomes
Class 2006SpecialtyHospitalStateAnesthesiologyU. Florida Prog-Shands Hospital
Transitional – Hosp. Ep. San LucasFL
PRDermatology Roger Williams Med Ctr
Transitional – Hosp. San LucasRI
PREmergency MedicineUniv. of Puerto Rico PRPRFamily MedicineFamily Medicine Florida Hosp. Orlando
Univ. Mass Med. School
Bella Vista Hosp.
Jamaica Hosp Med Ctr.FL
MA
PR
NYInternal MedicineHosp, Epis. San Lucas
U. South COM - Tampa
U. Texas HSC-San Antonio
Mt. Sinai Med Ctr. Miami
Ochsner Clinic Foundation
William Beummont Med. Ctr
Baystate Medical CenterPR
FL
TX
FL
LA
TX
MAInternal Medicine-Prelim.U. Texas HSC – San AntonioTXNeurology Tuff University-Boston
Med. Preliminar –Lahey Clinic
U. South Florida
Transitional – Hosp. San Lucas
Madigan Army Medical Ctr.-SeattleMA
MA
FL
PR
WAObstetrics & GynecologyUMDNJ-R W Johnson
U. Texas HSC-San Antonio
Baylor Coll Med-Houston
UC San Francisco-Fresno
Orlando Reg Healthcare
Jackson Memorial Hosp
Brooke Army Med. Ctr.,San AntonioNJ
TX
TX
CA
FL
FL
TXOphthalmology Tulane Univ.
Transitional-Hosp. San LucasLA
PROtolaryngology U. Rochester/Strong Mem NYPRPathology Pathology Univ. of Puerto Rico
U. Florida HSC - JacksonvillePR
FLPediatricsMiami Childrens Hosp
U. South Florida COM-Tampa
U. Texas HSC-San Antonio
Univ. of Puerto Rico
Med. Coll Georgia-AugustaFL
FL
TX
PR
GAPhysical Med. & Rehab.U. Texas HSC-San Antonio
NYU School of Medicine
Transitional – Hosp. San Lucas
Baylor Coll Med. HoustonTX
NY
PR
TXPsychiatry Univ. Mass Med School
Cleveland Clinic Fdn
U. Texas HSC – San Antonio
San Juan VA Med Ctr.MA
OH
TX
PRRadiology UC San Francisco
Transitional – Hosp. San Lucas
U. Texas Sch- HoustonCA
PR
TXSurgery Carraway Methodist Med Ctr
Maricopa Med Ctr
Brookdale Hosp Med Ctr
U. Florida HSC Jacksonville
Lehigh Valley Hosp
Wright State Univ. BoonshoftAL
AZ
NY
FL
PA
OHSurgery, PlasticUniv. Hosp. ColumbiaMOSurgery, PreliminaryMercy Hospital
Univ. of Florida-JacksonvillePA
FLTransitional Hosp. Episcopal San Lucas
Damas HospitalPR
PR​

Top​

MD Students Outcomes
Class 2005​

SpecialtyHospitalStateAnesthesiology Saint Lukes –Roosevelt
Transitional – Frankford Hosp.NY
PAEmergency MedicineUniversity of Texas Med Sch
University of Puerto RicoTX
PRInternal MedicineDamas Hosp.
NYP Hosp-Columbus Presbyterian
University of Puerto Rico
Mount Sinai Hospital
San Juan VA Med CtrPR
NY
PR
NY
PRInternal Medicine-PreliminaryMetropolitan University
Long Island College Hosp.NY
NYNeurology Jefferson University
IM-Prel: Thomas Jefferson
Tulane University
Cleveland Clinic
Transitional-Hosp. San Lucas
Louisiana State University
Transitional-Hosp. San Lucas
University South Florida, Tampa
Transitional Hosp. San LucasPA
PA
LA
FL
PR
LA
PR
FL
PRObstetrics & GynecologyHosp. Episcopal San Lucas
Orlando Regional Healthcare
University of Puerto RicoPR
FL
PROphthalmology University of Texas, Houston
Transitional – Frankford Hosp
University of Puerto RicoTX
PA
PRPediatrics Jackson Memorial Hosp
Hospital San Lucas
Miami Childrens Hosp
St. Joseph HospitalFL
PR
FL
AZPsychiatry University of Cincinnati
Texas A & M, Scott & White
San Juan VA Med Ctr.OH
TX
PRRadiology University of Texas, San Antonio
IM-Prel: Univ. of Texas, San Antonio
University of Puerto Rico
IM-Prel: San Juan City Hosp, Bayamón
University of Michigan
IM-Prel: Metropolitan Hosp.
Brook Army Med Ctr, San AntonioTX
TX
PR
PR
MI
NY
TXSurgical ResearchUniversity of Texas, GalvestonTXSurgery Brookdale Hosp Med
St. John Hospital
National Naval Med Ctr, Bethesda
SUNY HSC Brooklyn
NY Hosp Med Ctr Queens
University Buffalo Grad. MedNY
MI
WA
NY
NY
NYSurgery, OrthopedicBaylor Coll Med – Houston
Albany Med Ctr. HospTX
NYSurgery, PreliminaryUniversity of Puerto Rico
University of Texas, San AntonioPR
TXTransitional Hosp. Episcopal San Lucas
Frankford HospPR
PA

 

[aaahhhbi]

Nevada Match list...many matched in their top 3

Anesthesiology (5)

University of Arizona
Loma Linda
Texas A&M
UCLA Med Center
Oregon Health and Sciences

Dermatology (1)

University of Missouri-Columbia

Emergency Medicine (4)

University of Texas-Southwestern
Madigan Army Medical Center-Tacoma
Oregon Health and Sciences
University of Nevada (Las Vegas)

Family Medicine (7)

University of New Mexico-Santa Fe
University of Nevada (Las Vegas)x 2
University of Nevada (Reno)
Family Medicine Residency of Idaho-Boise
University of New Mexico-Albuquerque
University of California-Davis

General Surgery (5)

University of Nebraska
Santa Barbara Cottage
Banner Good Samaritan-Phoenix
University of Nevada (Las Vegas)x2

Internal Medicine (10)

UC Davis x 2
Dartmouth-NH
University of Nevada (Reno)x3
University of Nevada (Las Vegas)
University of New Mexico
University of Colorado-Denver
Huntington Memorial-Pasadena, CA

Neurologic Surgery (1)

University of Utah

OB/Gyn (3)

UC Davis x 2
University of Minnesota-Minneapolis

Orthopedic Surgery (4)

University of New Mexico
Case Western Reserve
University of Kansas-Witchita
University of Nebraska

Otolaryngology (1)

Louisiana State-Shreveport

Pediatrics (3)

University of Nevada (Las Vegas)
Children's Hospital Oakland
University of Southern California-CA

Plastic Surgery (1)

University of Nevada (Las Vegas)

Radiology (3)

Virginia Mason Medical Center-Seattle
University of Arizona
Wheaton Franciscan Healthcare-St. Joseph-WI

 

[Kraft7]

Anymore match lists?

 

[Ashers]

Anymore match lists?

Regarding the subject of your thread. No, don't move it to the allo forum. It's the pre-allo forum that starts the match list thread every year, and any that happened to be started in the allo forum quickly disappear due to lack of posts, and people saying that there's already one in pre-allo.

 

[bruno2]

Can someone post UCSF's match list? Thank you.

 

[blackbird11384]

Here is Georgetown University School of Medicine's 2008 match list. I'm too lazy to type it all out since we had 181 graduating this year, so I uploaded it as one PDF file to be download from mediafire.

http://www.mediafire.com/?rymlmpnjfst

 

[blackbird11384]

Just found out how to attach a file directly through SDN. I have broken up the PDF file into three parts. Try these links if you don't like downloading from mediafire.

 

[Scalpellum]

See below

 

[Corn Dog]

Anybody have match lists for Indiana University and U of Illinois-Chicago? Thanks.

 

[Wylde]

anyone have the U-Wisc match list?

Thank you

 

[megamega]

I know this thread is really old, but I can't find a match list for the University of Washington. Does anyone have this list?

 

[silverlining1]

I didn't search to see if this is already posted, but here's UCSD.

 

[ButImLETired]

I have a question about match lists for the wise ones who roam these hallowed halls.

I notice that in lots of match lists, many students tend to match at their own med school's programs. I always figured that those were the "easiest" programs for a student to match at- you've gotten to know those people well, they know your training well, they're the ones who write you the LORs to begin with...so it can be a "safety" of sorts for people. On the other hand, students may just settle down in the area and want to stay with a SO or whatever, so it's the most convenient solution. Anyways, I kind of assumed that either it was a rather neutral thing or a "safety" thing.

While interviewing at one med school, however, that had a match list almost entirely made up of students staying there for residency, the director of admissions talked about how proud they were of that match list because it showed how much their students loved their programs and their professors. I hadn't really considered that so I was intrigued.

In you guys' opinions, what does it mean when a match list is largely made up of students staying at their home med school? Is it a good sign (the students love and believe in the programs and the professors and they have a great reputation so that's where they stay), a neutral sign (they're used to the city, have a family, don't feel the need to leave), or a bad sign (they couldn't go anywhere else and most schools like their own grads)? A mixture of the three? What have you observed at your med schools? Thanks!

 

[MrBurns10]

In you guys' opinions, what does it mean when a match list is largely made up of students staying at their home med school? Is it a good sign (the students love and believe in the programs and the professors and they have a great reputation so that's where they stay), a neutral sign (they're used to the city, have a family, don't feel the need to leave), or a bad sign (they couldn't go anywhere else and most schools like their own grads)? A mixture of the three? What have you observed at your med schools? Thanks!

This is strictly my opinion. As a premed, I asked myself two questions in regards to what you're saying: 1) are the residency programs strong, and 2) could I see myself staying there for another 3-8 years after graduating.

As for point #1, a lot of people will argue that premeds can't know what residency programs are strong, and for individual programs I would agree. But there are certain medical centers (the Harvard system, Hopkins, UCSF, etc) that really are good in almost everything. If I happened to choose one of the specialties where the residency program wasn't so strong, I'd just go elsewhere. But if I chose to pursue a field where my home program was really strong, I either have a better chance to stay or maybe there are influential people there that can write strong LORs or make phone calls to other places for me. If a lot of people at those schools stayed there for residency, that would be a positive for me.

And point #2 is entirely subjective. If I had gone to a school in the cold northeast or midwest, you can be rest assured I would have gotten out of there as soon as possible. I hate winter. So, if I hated the location and a med school sent a ton of its graduates for residency there, I would look at that as either neutral or negative. There is a HUGE amount of regional bias in selection for residency interviews, so if you hate the location, it may be to your disadvantage.

Anyway, just my opinion.

 

[kastle6797]

Every match is impressive in its own right. Smart people go to every medical school, and thus there are a lot of impressive matches for each school. For the love of God don't pick a school based on its match list.

 

[BastAnkh]

Does anyone have University of Maryland's match list?

 

[Handy388]

gentle nudge.

 

[JDWflash44]

CCLCM's First Match list (from word of mouth)

Int Medicine
Duke
Beth Isreal
Michigan
UNC
Yale
Stanford
Cornell
Vanderbilt

General Surgery
Wash U (StL)
Brown

Neurosurgery
Emory
George Washington

Orthopedics
Hospital for Special Surgery
UCSF
Utah

Ob/Gyn
Beth Isreal
Hawaii

Urology
Cleveland Clinic
Wake Forest

Opthamology
Clevaland Clinic
UCSD

Pediatrics
CHOP (UPENN)
Duke

Anesthesia
Cleveland Clinic

Rad Onc
Rochester

Radiology
UPENN

Pathlogy
Mass General

Dermatology
Yale

Emergency Medicine
Cincinnati

 

[chad5871]

Does anyone have University of Maryland's match list?

I'm curious about this as well...

 

[ChubbyChaser]

http://www.med.unc.edu/md/files/2009 speciality for public.pdf

 

[aRnonymous]

I'm curious about this as well...

They gave us one at the interview, if I'm not feeling lazy I'll scan it
It was only part of it if I recall correctly

 

[chad5871]

They gave us one at the interview, if I'm not feeling lazy I'll scan it
It was only part of it if I recall correctly

Ah, I may have lying around somewhere. If you get a chance to scan it, though, that'd be great.

 

[Stixman28]

Ah, I may have lying around somewhere. If you get a chance to scan it, though, that'd be great.

chad...if i type this up...you'll owe me...

Internal med
hopkins
duke
uva
Columbia
Univ Hospital Cincinati OH
UVA
GWU
Yale x2
UMB x 6
St. Vincent IND
JHU
med Univ South Car
Upenn
Cleveland Clinic

Anesthesiology
UPMC Med Ed. Prog, Pitt, PA
UNC chapel hill
UF COM Shands Hosp, FL
UMB

Derm
UMB (virginia mason prelim)
UVA (UMD mercy prelim)

Phys Med and Rehab
UVA (Greater balt prelim)
sinai baltimore
UVA (franklin square balt prelim)
sinai baltimore (UMD mercy prelim)

Gen surg
UF gainsville
yale
st agnes baltimore
Indiana
NYU
USF COM tampa
Upenn
Ohio state

Family Med
Fraklin Square MD
York PA
Jeff
UNC
Uwash
UPMC St. Margaret Pitt PA
Carolinas Med Ctr
Franklin Square MD
UNC

Emerg Med
UVA
Palmetto Health Richland SC
Upenn
Brown
Penn State
UMB x2

Surg Prelim
UMB x2

Opth
Summa Health (akron oh)
UVA x 2

Ortho Surg
UMB
Tripler Army (HI)
NYU
Rochester
UVA

neurology
walter reed
umb
UCSF

anat/clin & anat path
Banes-Jewish Hospital, MO

Peds
Indiana SOM
UF COM
Naval Med Center, MD
UMB
Children Natl Med Center, DC
UF COM Shands
Childrens Hospital LA, CA
Hopkins

Urology
UMB
Mayo

Psych
UMB
Case
UMB
Hopkins

Otolaryngology
UMB

Radiology
GWU
Umass
UMB
Stanford
BI Deaconess, Med Ctr, Boston

Med Peds
Ohio state

neurosurgery
University Hospital Jackson MS


(UMB is univ maryland baltimore)

 

[Mistress S]

I wish that instead of showing match lists, schools would show the % of students who matched into one of their top 3 or 5 choices or the % that got into the specialty they wanted the most.

It is true that in some ways, this would be more useful info. As others have pointed out, the number of impressive names on a match list is a poor measure of how "good" of a list it is, as many other factors go into making the rank list than the reputation of the program. It is also not true that a big name corresponds to a good residency in all specialties, and many of the more respected programs for a given specialty may in fact be at universities that are not renowned for their undergrad/med schools and thus will not be immediately recognized by the average premed student (or even med student not going into that specialty) as a "top 10" match for that specialty. What ultimately matters is how many people received one of their top choices.

However, this information is no longer released by the NRMP to applicants or medical schools. My understanding is that the earlier release of this info led to some schools pressuring applicants to change their rank lists (e.g., encourage less competitive applicants to place mid-tier places higher on their lists or even not apply to competitive specialties) in order to inflate their figures about how many applicants got one of their top 3 choices or whatever.

Even as it is, you have to recognize that a lot of self-selection goes on in this process, and that many people's priorities change a lot during med school- my class started out with a higher-than-average number of married and parenting medical students, but that number has increased dramatically during 4 years of school and many of these people had strong incentives to stay in the area. I also know people at my school who started fourth year planning to apply to competitive fields but did not apply to those specialties because they were concerned about their ability to match, and matched instead into less competitive specialties (in top programs for those specialties, but still not what they were originally interested in), and people who applied for competitive specialties not part of the ERAS match, did not match successfully, and later matched into a different specialty through ERAS. These types of things happen at every school and are not apparent from looking at a match list. Just some things to consider when attempting to evaluate these lists. You can look at them very generally and if you know you are interested in a particular specialty or even primary care v. EROAD specialty you can use the match list as a blunt tool for evaluating if a school might help you with that goal, but I would discourage reading too much into the match lists by themselves.

 

[DrQuack247]

I have a question about match lists for the wise ones who roam these hallowed halls.

I notice that in lots of match lists, many students tend to match at their own med school's programs. I always figured that those were the "easiest" programs for a student to match at- you've gotten to know those people well, they know your training well, they're the ones who write you the LORs to begin with...so it can be a "safety" of sorts for people. On the other hand, students may just settle down in the area and want to stay with a SO or whatever, so it's the most convenient solution. Anyways, I kind of assumed that either it was a rather neutral thing or a "safety" thing.

While interviewing at one med school, however, that had a match list almost entirely made up of students staying there for residency, the director of admissions talked about how proud they were of that match list because it showed how much their students loved their programs and their professors. I hadn't really considered that so I was intrigued.

In you guys' opinions, what does it mean when a match list is largely made up of students staying at their home med school? Is it a good sign (the students love and believe in the programs and the professors and they have a great reputation so that's where they stay), a neutral sign (they're used to the city, have a family, don't feel the need to leave), or a bad sign (they couldn't go anywhere else and most schools like their own grads)? A mixture of the three? What have you observed at your med schools? Thanks!

He/She is referring to Emory.

 

[VMSmith]

In you guys' opinions, what does it mean when a match list is largely made up of students staying at their home med school? Is it a good sign (the students love and believe in the programs and the professors and they have a great reputation so that's where they stay), a neutral sign (they're used to the city, have a family, don't feel the need to leave), or a bad sign (they couldn't go anywhere else and most schools like their own grads)? A mixture of the three? What have you observed at your med schools? Thanks!

It's hard to give any definitive explanation. Like you said it's usually a mixture of all the above.

For some people who have strong roots in the area, staying at their home institution is their top choice and they can't imagine going anywhere else for residency. Of the people at my school who are staying for residency, I'd say that half or more fall into this category. A few didn't even apply anywhere else, because they were assured that they'd be ranked to match even before ERAS opened.

Several others interviewed at other places and ultimately felt that our school offered the best mix of what they were looking for and ranked it first.

And of course, some were very disappointed to match at our home institution, having ranked it pretty low on their match lists. But I'd say that even at my unranked, unprestigious med school, this was a minority. Most people who are staying wanted to stay.

 

[VMSmith]

That's one of the reasons match lists are hard to interpret...unless you know what everyone's priorities are and how they ranked programs, you don't know whether it's a good or bad match.

I have 2 classmates who matched into "top 5" programs in their specialties, neither of which were top 5 on their rank order lists. Obviously they're still very happy with their matches, but they would've been happier matching elsewhere. Someone in the class above mine ranked her home program #1 but ended up matching at a "better" program. She's happy now where she is but really wanted to stay and was disappointed on Match Day.

So take these match lists with a grain of salt.

 

[harishchandra]

Does anyone have Howard's and Meharry's match list?