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2008 Match Lists

Discussion in 'Pre-Medical - MD' started by nosugrefneb, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. nosugrefneb

    nosugrefneb (benferguson) 7+ Year Member

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    Pritzker

    100% matched (95/95).

    By specialty:

    28 Internal Med
    14 Surgery-Total
    5 Surgery-General
    1 Surgery-Plastics
    4 Surgery-Ortho
    2 Surgery-Prelim
    2 Surgery-Neuro
    8 Peds
    7 EM
    6 Family Med
    5 Anesthesiology
    5 Ob-Gyn
    4 Path
    4 Transitional
    3 Med-Peds
    3 Rad-Diag
    3 Neuro
    2 Psych
    2 Urology
    2 PM&R
    1 Med-Psych
    1 Rad-Onc
    1 ENT

    By school (top 10):

    19 UChicago
    8 Northwestern
    6 Harvard
    5 Columbia
    4 UCSF
    4 UWashington
    4 UCSD
    3 Stanford
    3 Penn
    3 Wisconsin

    Details:

    ANESTHESIOLOGY
    UChicago (2)
    UCSD
    Columbia
    UWashington

    EM
    UChicago
    Denver
    Indiana
    UCSD
    Northwestern
    USC
    San Antonio AFB

    FAMILY MED
    UCSF
    MacNeal
    UIC
    Wisconsin
    Iowa
    Ventura Cnty

    MEDICINE (Internal/Primary/Prelim)
    UChicago (10; 1 PSTP)
    Northwestern (3)
    Stanford (2)
    Columbia (2)
    Georgetown (2)
    Einstein/Montefiore (2)
    Harvard
    UCSF
    UWashington
    Penn
    Yale
    WashU
    Mayo
    Mt. Sinai
    OHSU
    San Antonio AFB
    Kaiser Permanente
    Dallas Presbyterian

    MED-PEDS
    UChicago
    UCSD
    Michigan

    MED-PSYCH
    UC Davis

    NEUROLOGY
    Columbia
    UCSF
    UAB

    OB/GYN
    Harvard
    Columbia
    Wisconsin
    George Washington
    Morehouse

    ENT
    OHSU

    PATH
    UChicago (2)
    Harvard
    UIC

    PEDS
    UChicago
    Harvard (2)
    Penn
    Hopkins
    Northwestern
    Christ
    TN-Chattanooga

    PM&R
    Northwestern/RIC
    UWashington

    PSYCH
    Hopkins
    Baylor

    RAD-ONC
    Harvard

    RAD-DIAGNOSTIC
    UChicago
    Northwestern
    Wisconsin

    SURGERY - GENERAL
    Case Western
    Brown
    OHSU
    UNC
    St. Joseph's

    SURGERY - ORTHO
    UChicago
    UCSF
    Penn (research track)
    Yale

    SURGERY-NEURO
    Pitt
    Northwestern

    SURGERY - PLASTICS
    UWashington

    SURGERY - PRELIM
    UChicago (2)

    TRANSITIONAL
    Resurrection
    St. Joseph
    Kern
    Scripps Mercy

    UROLOGY
    Stanford
    UCSD
     
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  3. ninjapenguin

    ninjapenguin 5+ Year Member

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    No dermatology or ophthalmology? Looks like Pritzker isn't the school for me... :rolleyes:
     
  4. ICanDoThis

    ICanDoThis 2+ Year Member

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    Wow, I'm really impressed by the new Pritzker matchlist! Thanks for posting!
     
  5. TigerSoup

    TigerSoup 7+ Year Member

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    Haha, nowadays I'm starting to think of a lack of derm matches as a plus.

    Pritzker always has such shiny match lists, thanks for posting it! I heard though that you can't simply evaluate them based on name recognition, that the best programs aren't necessarily at schools that I associate with being on top (though who knows, I may care more about location when the time comes anyway). Does anyone know of somewhere that gives a general idea of where are the most sought-after spots in each field?
     
  6. DMBUGA34

    DMBUGA34 Senior Member 10+ Year Member

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    Surprisingly, the most popular was OBGYN. Overall, many went w/location > big name

    Anesthesia
    Harvard – BWH (UConn prelim)
    Harvard – BI (Rochester prelim)
    Emory (Harvard - BWH prelim)
    Dartmouth
    UTSW
    Tufts

    Consulting
    Mckinsey

    Dermatology
    Wisconsin (Dartmouth prelim)
    UMass (UMass prelim)

    EM
    Yale
    Maine
    Regions (St. Paul)

    ENT
    Dartmouth

    FM
    Tufts
    Maine

    General Surgery
    Cornell
    Dartmouth
    Mt. Sinai
    Rochester
    Army – Madigan (Tacoma)
    VCU

    Medicine
    Harvard – BI
    Wash U
    Washington
    Stanford
    OHSU
    OHSU
    UNC
    Tufts

    Neurology
    Harvard – BI (BI prelim)
    Harvard – BI (BI prelim)

    Neurology – Child
    Colorado (UMN Peds)

    Neurosurgery
    Penn State

    OBGYN
    Harvard – BWH
    Harvard – BWH
    Penn
    Dartmouth
    Dartmouth
    UVA
    Colorado
    Colorado
    UConn

    Ophthalmology
    Wash U

    Ortho
    Dartmouth

    Pathology
    Harvard - MGH
    Stanford

    Pediatrics
    UCSF
    Cincinnati
    Utah
    CHOC
    Army – Tripler (Honolulu)
    UNM

    Psychiatry
    Harvard - Longwood

    Radiology
    Stanford (Mayo-AZ prelim)
    Stanford (Dartmouth prelim)
    Cornell (NYU prelim)
    Tufts (Jefferson prelim)

    Vascular Surgery
    UNC



    Dartmouth-Brown

    EM
    Brown
    UMass

    Med/Peds
    Duke

    Ophto
    Hopkins

    Path
    Brown

    Peds
    Brown

    Plastics
    UCDavis
     
  7. spanamit

    spanamit 2+ Year Member

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    That is simply phenomenal!


    Unless you are real hot stuff (eg: >40 MCAT, 3.9 gpa), I wouldn't really judge a top school by lack of interest in its students to go into derm/ophtho.
     
  8. littlealex

    littlealex little tiny alex 7+ Year Member

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    The schools are phenomenal, but the specialty they got are pretty average. Most of the class matched into internal medicine.
     
  9. Law2Doc

    Law2Doc 5K+ Member Physician Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    You all have to bear in mind that the same schools that are tops for med school or undergrad may not be for given specialties. Each has its own hierarchy. Hence you cannot really read a match list because you simply don't know what programs are good versus middling. As you get closer to selecting a specialty, your mentors will let you know which places are good versus malignant. As an undergrad looking at a list, you are just randomly guessing. It is likely that some of the places not bolded by the prior poster actually have the better programs in some of the fields the students selected.
     
  10. ninjapenguin

    ninjapenguin 5+ Year Member

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    And I even threw on the "sarcastic smiley" to make it painfully obvious to overzealous birdbrains such as yourself... what a lost cause SDN has become.

    P.S. I'm hot stuff, just not real hot stuff. Does my opinion still matter?
     
  11. spanamit

    spanamit 2+ Year Member

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    My bad. Sarcasm often gets lost in the internet.
     
  12. nosugrefneb

    nosugrefneb (benferguson) 7+ Year Member

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    It doesn't necessarily correlate with strong residency programs, but the US News hospital rankings will give you a basic idea of how well-reputed certain fields are at a given institution.

    Yeah, it was a big IM year for Pritzker apparently. Not quite sure why. IM is always the best represented in our match, but moreso this year.
     
  13. Law2Doc

    Law2Doc 5K+ Member Physician Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    I wouldn't put a lot of stock in those rankings -- nobody really uses US News to pick residency programs and the data it is based on is just too sketchy. This is a word of mouth business. When you get to later years of med school, you will snag a mentor in a field you are interested in. Your mentor will know the players, know which programs are good versus malignant. Some of the biggest name schools have some of the less desirable programs in certain fields so don't assume that just because it's a brand name place (at the med school level) it's good in everything.
     
  14. ysm2011

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    Yale 2008

    96/96 matched (100%)

    Specialty:
    15 Internal

    9 Psychiatry
    7 Anesthesiology
    6 Orthopedic Surgery
    6 Emergency
    6 Surgery
    6 Ob/Gyn
    6 Pediatrics
    4 Ophthalmology
    4 Dermatology
    4 Radiology
    4 Neurology
    3 Neurosurgery
    3 Radiation Oncology
    3 Family
    2 ENT
    2 Urology
    2 Med/Ped
    2 Pathology
    1 Plastic Surgery
    1 Post-doc

    Schools (most popular), not including PGY1 matches:
    17 Harvard (16 MGH/Brigham)
    15 Yale
    10 UCSF
    6 Columbia
    5 Hopkins
    4 Penn
    4 NYU
     
  15. LO281OK

    LO281OK 5+ Year Member

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    IM gets the highest percentage from most schools, but think about it this way: Internal Medicine leads to Cardiology, Endocrinology, Nephrology, Infectious Disease, Rheumatology, Gastroenterology, etc... specialties. It's not necessarily an end in itself.

    Also, the quality of the program you are looking at depends on what your goals are. The same Orth Residency may look different to a med student that wants to be one of the top surgeons at a well-known academic hospital vice one that wants to become proficient and do lots of surgery. The former wants a good research institution while the latter would prefer somewhere they get more patients... Also, residency location tends to influence where people go afterward (contacts formed during training, etc...) so some people take that into acct when choosing where they want to match.
     
  16. Chizwheel

    Chizwheel Urology Resident 5+ Year Member

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    why is this in the pre-medical forum? I really would encourage people not to pick their medical school based on the match lists. The lists are very variable depending on the current "hot" fields that year and match lists are very difficult to interpret if you aren't an M3 or M4. Also, most pre-meds have no clue which residency programs are the best in the field and most non-medical people don't really know which are the most desirable and difficult spots to land.

    There are a lot more factors that go into picking a residency and what type of career you want to pursue than what shows up on a match list. For example, Harvard medical school does not match every one of its students into derm, ortho, ENT, plastics, urology, etc, nor is Harvard the best residency for every field.

    Although it's interesting to see the match lists, I would strongly advise against using these lists to try to find which med schools are better than others.


    (p.s. U.S. News & World report is the WORST place to rank med schools/residencies. You will have more statistically significant answers asking a hobo sleeping in a gutter)
     
  17. nosugrefneb

    nosugrefneb (benferguson) 7+ Year Member

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    Well, where would you have put it? I'm trying to be helpful and informative here. I don't think most current medical students or residents really care about match lists at other schools.

    At no point did I say you should use US News to rank programs or determine which programs are best. I said they "will give you a basic idea of how well-reputed certain fields are at a given institution." Nothing more.
     
  18. nosugrefneb

    nosugrefneb (benferguson) 7+ Year Member

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    I think I misread the original question I was responding to, though. Check out Charting Outcomes In The Match to get a better idea of specific numbers within each field (applicants vs. spots, etc.).
     
  19. Doublecortin

    Doublecortin 5+ Year Member

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    no derm?:eek: wtf!? there goes to paying astronomical tuition for "brand name" educaiton
     
  20. Doublecortin

    Doublecortin 5+ Year Member

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    :eek: Why?
     
  21. Law2Doc

    Law2Doc 5K+ Member Physician Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    I think most people further down the road would disagree with even the above statement though. I second the sleeping hobo comment.

    I don't see anything wrong with putting this thread in pre-allo, per se. I just think folks should avoid this kind of raw data in their own decision making processes. This kind of stuff is interesting but not enlightening. That nobody at Chicago is doing derm doesn't tell you whether anyone wanted derm and didn't get it, or if it simply was of no interest. So does that mean if you think you want derm then Chicago is not the med school for you? Probably not.
    And counting the number of brand name schools (as a prior poster seemed to be doing) is silly when some of those schools may not even be particularly good in certain fields.
     
  22. flip26

    flip26 2+ Year Member

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    This begs 2 questions:

    1) What is the best way for a pre-med o evaluate med schools? What criteria matter the most?

    2) Same thing for residencies...
     
  23. Law2Doc

    Law2Doc 5K+ Member Physician Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    #2 is easy. You cannot. you aren't in a position as a premed to evaluate residencies because it requires access to a mentor in your desired specialty to give you the word of mouth about various programs. And as a premed you are likely to change your mind about specialties at least once along the way, so really no point considering that now. Not to mention that programs and specialties fall into and out of favor over the course of 4 years. waste of time to consider that in the application cycle. Late in 3rd year is when you start to worry about this.

    As for #1, there is actually a good active thread in pre-allo discussing this right now. Look at things like location, curriculum, cost, grading systems, availability of research opportunities. Things that actually are going to matter to you over the next 4 years. If you do well, any allo school will be a decent launch pad for where you want to end up next.
     
  24. flip26

    flip26 2+ Year Member

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    Thanks for your answer, but i think you read too much into my residency question (probably due to my poor wording) - I am not in the least concerned about that now - just asking for future reference, asking for the perspective of an MS3 and up...
     
  25. Law2Doc

    Law2Doc 5K+ Member Physician Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    Yeah, I think I covered that earlier in the thread. Once you get deeper into med school and more certain about a specialty you will find yourself a mentor and you will talk to him about residencies. This is very much a word of mouth business, and folks in the field will know best what places are good vs malignant, where the current mecca of the specialty is, who is doing the exciting research etc. There is no list, and every specialty has a very different hierarchy of what places are good and what aren't (and it's frequently not even close to what you'd expect). If you are asking about what you'll find important in choosing a residency, top on the list is going to be that good vs malignant thing -- you don't want to go work someplace where everybody is treated poorly. After that, things like location and family tend to loom largest. By 4 years later you may have spouse or family obligations and not be as mobile as you tend to be coming right out of college. And then certainly programs where you'll get to actually do the kind of stuff you hope to do. If you plan to go into a certain kind of surgery you wouldn't want to go to a program which rarely does it, or if you want to go into trauma you wouldn't want to go to a suburban residency that doesn't even accept those cases. But you'll learn all the stuff you need to know from word of mouth when you get to that stage, not now.
     
  26. macadamianut

    macadamianut Senior Member 5+ Year Member

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    Rough List for Weill Cornell

    Medicine:
    UCSF
    Mass Gen x 2
    Duke
    Hopkins
    UPenn x 4
    Cornell x 5
    Columbia x 2
    Stanford
    Utah
    Emory
    NYU x 3
    Yale

    Surgery:
    Cornell x 3
    UPenn
    UIllinois

    Family Medicine:
    Beth Israel
    Duluth (MN)
    Swedish Med Center (Seattle)

    Peds:
    Hopkins
    Einstein/Montefiore
    Children’s Hosp of Penn x 2
    UCSF
    Columbia
    NYU
    Stony Brook

    Rad Onc:
    Brigham
    Memorial Sloan Kettering
    UWisconsin

    Optho:
    UMiami (Bascom Palmer)
    UCSF
    Hopkins
    UMDNJ
    Cornell

    Derm:
    NYU
    St. Luke’s Roosevelt
    Dartmouth

    Plastics:
    NYU
    Rochester

    Ortho:
    Harvard
    Rush
    New Mexico
    Westchester

    Urology:
    Duke

    Anes:
    Stanford
    Cornell x 3
    Einstein/Montefiore
    Mt. Sinai
    Upenn

    Neurology:
    Mass Gen
    BI Deaconess
    Cornell

    Rads:
    UPenn
    Dartmouth
    UWash

    Psych:
    NYU
    Harvard
    Mass Gen
    Cornell x 3
    Mt. Sinai

    Emergency:
    NYU
    Cornell

    OMF Surgery:
    Cornell

    Path: Hopkins
     
  27. Elizabeth1028

    Elizabeth1028 busy busy bee 7+ Year Member

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    Match List for Hopkins - 2008

    Anesthesiology (7)
    Massachusetts General Hosp (2)
    Johns Hopkins Hosp (3)
    Beth Israel Deaconess Med Center
    Johns Hopkins/Mercy Medical Center

    Dermatology (3)
    Massachusetts General Hosp
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    University of Texas SW

    Emergency Medicine (7)
    Hosp. of the University of Pennsylvania (2)
    University Hospital Cincinnati
    Drexel University
    UCLA
    University of Maryland Med Center
    NYU

    Family Medicine (4)
    Loyola University Med Center
    NYP Hosp – Columbia University Med Center
    Sutter Medical Center of Santa Rosa (2)

    Internal Medicine (23)
    Massachusetts General Hosp (3)
    Johns Hopkins Hosp (5)
    Johns Hopkins – Bayview (5)
    Portsmouth Naval Med Center
    University of Chicago (2)
    Walter Reed Army Med Center
    University of Washington Affil Hosps
    UCSF (2)
    Vanderbilt University Med Center
    University of Pittsburgh Medical Center
    NYP Hosp – Columbia University Medical Center

    Internal Medicine – Pediatrics (1)
    University of Oklahoma – OK City

    Neurology (1)
    University of Washington Affil Hosps

    Neurosurgery (4)
    Johns Hopkins Hosp
    UCLA
    University of Minnesota- Minneapolis
    Vanderbilt

    OB/GYN (2)
    University of Maryland
    Oregon Health & Sciences University

    Ophthalmology (8)
    Wills Eye Hospital
    Johns Hopkins – Wilmer Eye Center (2)
    Massachusetts Eye & Ear
    University of Pittsburgh
    USC (2)
    UCLA

    Orthopedic Surgery (2)
    Hospital for Special Surgery
    University of Iowa Hosps and Clinics

    Otolaryngology (2)
    UCSF
    Johns Hopkins Hosp

    Pathology (1)
    Brigham & Women's Hosp

    Pediatrics (9)
    Johns Hopkins Hosp (4)
    Children's National Medical Center
    Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
    Portsmouth Naval Medical Center
    NYP Hosp – Columbia University Med Center
    UCSF

    Pediatrics/Psych Combined (1)
    Johns Hopkins Hosp

    Plastic Surgery (5)
    Medical College of Wisconsin Affil Hosps
    Loma Linda University
    University of Washington Affil Hosps
    Mt. Sinai Hospital
    Hosp of University of Pennsylvania

    Psychiatry (5)
    Johns Hopkins Hosp (2)
    UCSD
    UCLA Semel Inst for Neuroscience
    University of Hawaii

    Radiation Oncology (5)
    Johns Hopkins Hosp
    UCSF
    University of Michigan – Ann Arbor
    NYU
    University of Chicago

    Radiology (4)
    Brigham & Women's Hosp
    University of Washington Affil Hosp
    NYU
    Duke University Med Center

    Surgery (3)
    Johns Hopkins Hosp (2)
    National Naval Medical Center - Bethesda

    Urology (2)
    Northwestern
    UCSF
     
  28. CanIMakeIt

    CanIMakeIt Fellow 10+ Year Member

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    Anesthesiology - 10
    Dermatology - 1
    Emergency Medicine - 9
    Family Practice - 20
    Internal Medicine - 31
    Medicine - Pediatrics - 7
    Medicine - Preliminary - 10
    Neurological Surgery - 2
    Obstetrics and Gynecology - 15
    Ophthalmology - 1
    Orthopaedic Surgery - 3
    Orthopaedic Surgery Research - 1
    Otolaryngology - 2
    Pathology - 3
    Pediatrics - 18
    Pediatrics Prelim - 1
    PM&R - 3
    Plastic Surgery - 3
    Psychiatry - 5
    Radiation Oncology - 2
    Radiology - 3
    Surgery - General - 11
    Surgery -Preliminary - 9
    Transitional Year - 1
    Urology - 3
     
  29. TigerSoup

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    I guess I'm just biased against derm because you hear so many people wanting to set up a botox farm and live the good life. It's not that derms don't do good works though, especially for people with actual skin conditions, so it's not that I disagree on an individual level to people going derm (for example, I know someone who had a life affecting skin condition, and she wants to help others with similar problems). I just worry over the general tread of so many of the highest achieving people going into the specialty when they might be doing a lot better for society in other places. So even though the lack of derm matches probably reflects people not being *accepted* into derm, I choose to be optimistic/naive and interpret it as a rejection of materialism/aestheticism in favor of a greater social awareness.

    PS I am really fond of and appreciate my own dermatologist, despite how many botox etc ads she's got in the waiting room. It's not that I don't think that no one with enormous smarts should want to go into derm, just that the specialty isn't worth the brain sink that it's increasingly becoming.
     
  30. JustBreathe

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    Orthopedic Surgery (4)
    George Washington University x 2
    UCSF
    Barnes-Jewish

    ENT (3)
    Barnes-Jewish
    University of Pennsylvania
    USF

    Pediatrics (18)
    St. Louis Children’s x 8
    Children’s National
    UCSF x 2
    Duke
    Kaiser Permanente
    Children’s Hospital of Boston x 2
    Cincinnati Children’s
    Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia
    Wright Patterson

    Pathology (4)
    UCSF
    University of Pennsylvania x 2
    Mass General

    Dermatology (7)
    Barnes-Jewish x 2
    USF
    University of Texas
    Indiana University
    UCSD
    University of Pennsylvania

    Urology (4)
    UT Southwestern
    NYU
    Johns Hopkins
    Cleveland Clinic

    Anesthesiology (5)
    UCLA
    Barnes-Jewish x 2
    University of Colorado
    Emory

    Psychiatry (2)
    Harvard Longwood
    University of Pennsylvania

    Ophthalmology (4)
    Washington University
    Oregon Health and Science x 2
    SLU

    Internal Medicine (23)
    Barnes-Jewish x 5
    Brigham and Women’s
    Stanford
    University of Colorado
    UNC
    UCSF
    NYU x 2
    UCSD x 2
    UCLA
    University of Pennsylvania x 2
    University of Washington
    Johns Hopkins
    Scripps Mercy
    Mass General
    Brigham and Women’s
    University of Chicago

    General Surgery (8)
    INOVA Fairfax Hospital
    Barnes-Jewish Hospital x 3
    Ohio State University
    Robert Wood Johnson
    UCSD
    UT Southwestern

    Neurology (5)
    University of Kentucky
    Mass General
    Barnes-Jewish x 2
    University of Pennsylvania

    Diagnostic Radiology (12)
    University of Pennsylvania x 2
    University of Washington
    Johns Hopkins
    Barnes-Jewish x 3
    Henry Ford Health Science Center
    Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
    Northwestern
    Indiana University
    Cornell

    Radiation Oncology (3)
    NIH
    Georgetown
    Rush University

    Ob/Gyn (1)
    University of Pittsburgh

    Emergency Medicine (4)
    University of Pittsburgh
    Brigham and Women’s
    Cornell
    UCSF

    Plastic Surgery (1)
    Barnes-Jewish

    Neurosurgery (2)
    Barnes-Jewish
    NYU

    (I just went through and made this list myself, so forgive any errors...)
     
  31. lalalala

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    #1 -- it's really not the stuff you do the first 2 years that even matters and that's the stuff they push on you during interviews/tours. dig around and find out what THIRD year is like. thats the year thats most important. residencies could care less if you PBLed it through the first 2 years or had some other varied curriculum. seriously... do not pick a school because it has PBL. use other criteria. i have heard too many stories from weill students (moreso than from NW students interestingly) that PBL wastes their time and takes away from focused board prep. go to a school that thoroughly covers the meat and potatoes of the first two years without any bells or whistles, and you will be prepped for boards. don't be that student that aces the first 2 years and then flails on boards...

    #2 residencies are very much specific to the field. for instance, EM. if you go by the traditional thought, you'd think oh, harvard, stanford, etc. are the best. wrong! its places like U of Cincinnati, Carolinas, etc. As a pre-med did I know about those places? No way! But once you get into your third/fourth year of med school, you start absorbing this info.

    bottom line, unless your school is top, say 12, ranking is not going to make a difference. the name value of the school will help you out -- but won't replace hard work and good evals -- if you are in the top 10. you may get interviews you wouldn't necessarily get for residency if you were at a lower school with similar stats. BUT do not go to a school where you have to pay exorbitant amounts of money just b/c it is a private school thats ranked in the top 40, over your state school.
     
  32. chudog15

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    as a florida resident, it would be difficult to pass up on mt sinai. the difference in tuition is about 16k per year. my concern is that staying in-state would make it hard for me to land a residency up north, or anywhere out of the south. isn't region/locality of the med school somewhat signifcant for residency?
     
  33. chudog15

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    I meant pass up on mt sinai for UF. sorry
     
  34. lalalala

    lalalala 7+ Year Member

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    regionality is important, but your grades/scores are more important. and also the department of your school that you want to do residency in is important. for instance, at least 2 fields where florida is better than mt sinai: UF has a great surgery department. letters from UF faculty would probably go a long way. same for radiation oncology--University of Florida is VERY well known in this field. letters from florida faculty would let you match anywhere, provided research/grades/scores are in check.

    i would go to your state school... mt sinai isn't going to make that much more of a difference. you can still match in NY at the very least. california would be hard, but california is hard for ANY region except the west.
     
  35. lord_jeebus

    lord_jeebus 和魂洋才 Moderator Physician 10+ Year Member

    5,817
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    Many programs seem to show a preference for their own students, but beyond that being local isn't much of an issue. Programs may need to be convinced that you would actually rank them highly if you are not from the area -- interviews are expensive for everyone.

    For example if you are originally from CA and go to an East Coast school, you may want to note in your application that returning to CA is a priority for you.
     
  36. mtd0130

    mtd0130 5+ Year Member

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    Houston
    MDApps:
    They have their match list written up with student names, so I've edited it to exclude those so I apologize if I messed up a count somewhere in the process

    Anesthesiology

    Baylor
    UT-Houston x 8
    UVA
    U Colorado
    UT-Southwestern x 3
    UT-San Antonio
    Yale
    Cleveland Clinic
    Texas A&M
    Mayo AZ

    Dermatology

    Med Coll Georgia
    UTMB
    UT Houston
    OHSU
    Columbia-NYP

    Emergency Medicine

    Vanderbilt
    Rochester
    Texas A&M
    UT Houston x 2
    Wake Forest
    U Chicago
    UTMB
    Christus Spohn

    Family Medicine

    Christus San Antonio
    Christus Spohn
    Memorial Hermann x 3
    Baylor

    Internal Medicine

    Keesler
    Barnes-Jewish
    UT-Southwestern x 5
    UT-Houston x 6
    U Louisville
    Texas A&M x 2
    Methodist x 2
    William Beaumont Army
    Cedars-Sinai LA
    U Chicago
    Baylor
    Mayo
    Rush

    Medicine-Pediatrics

    U Alabama x 3
    UT Houston
    Jackson Memorial
    U Michigan

    Neurosurgery

    UT Houston

    Neurology

    NYU
    GW
    U Washington

    Neurology – Child

    Baylor
    UT- Houston x 2
    NYP- Columbia

    OB/Gyn

    Texas Tech
    Buffalo
    Texas Tech- El Paso
    UT Southwestern
    UT San Antonio
    Jersey Shore
    SUNY Brooklyn
    Methodist-Dallas
    Hopkins
    Baylor x 2
    Texas Tech-Amarillo

    Ophthalmology

    Emory
    UT Houston
    SUNY Stony Brook

    Orthopedic Surgery

    U Utah
    U Columbia MO
    UT Houston x 2
    UTMB x 3
    Georgetown
    UT Southwestern
    Jackson Memorial

    Otolaryngology

    Indiana Univ
    Duke

    Pathology

    Mt Sinai
    UT Houston
    Methodist-Houston x 2
    Beth Israel
    U Maryland

    Pediatrics

    Eastern VA
    UT Southwestern
    UT Houston x 2
    U South Florida
    UCLA
    U Alabama
    U Chicago
    Brooke Army
    U New Mexico
    Childrens Natl
    UT San Antonio
    Baylor

    Psychiatry

    Baylor x 3
    Stanford
    UTMB
    UT Houston x 2
    U Colorado
    Austin Med

    Rad Oncology

    U Colorado

    Rad Diagnostic

    Wake Forest
    UT Houston x 4
    U New Mexico
    VCU
    UT San Antonio
    Duke
    UPMC
    UT Southwestern
    Barnes Jewish x 2
    U Alabama

    Surgery-Plastics

    Hershey Med
    U Washington

    Surgery General

    MUSC
    LSU- Shreveport
    Baylor
    UT San Antonio
    Methodist- Houston x 2
    Methodist- Dallas
    Texas Tech- El Paso
    Pitt County
    UTMB
    Brookdale
    Texas A&M
    UT Houston

    Surgery- Oral Maxillofacial

    UT Houston x 3

    Urology

    U Conn
    U Chicago
    UT Houston
     
  37. jtmoney99

    jtmoney99

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    UIC Chicago's Match List, 2008


    UNIV OF CHICAGO MED CTR-IL ANESTHESIOLOGY
    NORTHWESTERN MCGAW/NMH/VA-IL ANESTHESIOLOGY
    UC SAN FRANCISCO-CA ANESTHESIOLOGY
    UNIV OF CHICAGO MED CTR-IL ANESTHESIOLOGY
    UNIVERSITY HOSPS-COLUMBIA-MO ANESTHESIOLOGY
    U MINNESOTA MED SCHOOL ANESTHESIOLOGY
    CLEVELAND CLINIC FDN-OH ANESTHESIOLOGY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO ANESTHESIOLOGY
    UNIV OF CHICAGO MED CTR-IL ANESTHESIOLOGY
    NYP HOSP-WEILL CORNELL MED CTR-NY ANESTHESIOLOGY
    JACKSON MEMORIAL HOSP-FL ANESTHESIOLOGY
    CLEVELAND CLINIC FDN-OH ANESTHESIOLOGY
    MASSACHUSETTS GEN HOSP ANESTHESIOLOGY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO ANESTHESIOLOGY
    ST VINCENTS HOSPITAL-NY ANESTHESIOLOGY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO ANESTHESIOLOGY


    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO DERMATOLOGY


    ADVOCATE CHRIST MED CTR-IL EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    SUNY HSC BROOKLYN-NY EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    COOK COUNTY-STROGER HOSPITAL-IL EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    THOMAS JEFFERSON UNIV-PA EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    BETH ISRAEL MED CTR-NY EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    STANFORD UNIV PROGS-CA EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    SYNERGY MED ED ALLIANCE-MI EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    GRAND RAPIDS MED ED-MI EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    COOK COUNTY-STROGER HOSPITAL-IL EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    DENVER HEALTH MED CTR-CO EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    BOSTON UNIV MED CTR-MA EMERGENCY MEDICINE
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO EMERGENCY MEDICINE


    MACNEAL MEM HOSP-IL FAMILY MEDICINE
    IMAGE FP/HILLCREST MED CTR-OK FAMILY MEDICINE
    OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE UNIV FAMILY MEDICINE
    MAYO SCHOOL OF GRAD MED EDUC-MN FAMILY MEDICINE
    MACNEAL MEM HOSP-IL FAMILY MEDICINE
    ST JOSEPH HOSP-IL FAMILY MEDICINE
    MED COLL WISCONSIN AFFIL HOSPS FAMILY MEDICINE
    JACKSON MEMORIAL HOSP-FL FAMILY MEDICINE
    MERCY MED CTR-REDDING-CA FAMILY MEDICINE
    UC DAVIS MED CTR-CA FAMILY MEDICINE
    SCRIPPS MERCY HOSP-CHULA VISTA-CA FAMILY MEDICINE
    ADVOCATE CHRIST MED CTR-IL FAMILY MEDICINE
    KAISER PERMANENTE-SO CA REGION FAMILY MEDICINE
    MACNEAL MEM HOSP-IL FAMILY MEDICINE
    ADVOCATE LUTHERAN GEN HOSP-IL FAMILY MEDICINE
    HINSDALE HOSPITAL-IL FAMILY MEDICINE
    ADVOCATE CHRIST MED CTR-IL FAMILY MEDICINE
    UIC/ILLINOIS MASONIC FMR FAMILY MEDICINE
    ADVOCATE CHRIST MED CTR-IL FAMILY MEDICINE


    FLORIDA HOSP-ORLANDO-FL GENERAL SURGERY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO GENERAL SURGERY
    U WASHINGTON AFFIL HOSPS GENERAL SURGERY
    TULANE UNIV SOM-LA GENERAL SURGERY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO GENERAL SURGERY


    BOSTON UNIV MED CTR-MA INTERNAL MEDICINE
    UMDNJ-NEW JERSEY MED-NEWARK INTERNAL MEDICINE
    DUKE UNIVERSITY MED CTR INTERNAL MEDICINE
    BARNES-JEWISH HOSP-MO INTERNAL MEDICINE
    MAYO SCHOOL OF GRAD MED EDUC-MN INTERNAL MEDICINE
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO INTERNAL MEDICINE
    U ARIZONA AFFIL HOSPS INTERNAL MEDICINE
    BARNES-JEWISH HOSP-MO INTERNAL MEDICINE
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    U WISCONSIN HOSPITAL AND CLINICS INTERNAL MEDICINE
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    UNIV OF CHICAGO MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    NORTHWESTERN MCGAW/ENH-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    UNIV OF CHICAGO MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS CASE MED CTR-OH INTERNAL MEDICINE
    OHIO STATE UNIV MED CTR-OH INTERNAL MEDICINE
    ST LOUIS UNIV SOM-MO INTERNAL MEDICINE
    U SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA INTERNAL MEDICINE
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS CASE MED CTR-OH INTERNAL MEDICINE
    UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS CASE MED CTR-OH INTERNAL MEDICINE
    MASSACHUSETTS GEN HOSP INTERNAL MEDICINE
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    BARNES-JEWISH HOSP-MO INTERNAL MEDICINE
    UNIV OF CHICAGO MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    NORTHWESTERN MCGAW/ENH-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    LOYOLA UNIV MED CTR-IL INTERNAL MEDICINE
    BARNES-JEWISH HOSP-MO INTERNAL MEDICINE

    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO MEDICINE-EMERGENCY MED

    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO MEDICINE-PEDIATRICS
    MED COLL WISCONSIN AFFIL HOSPS MEDICINE-PEDIATRICS


    MED COLL WISCONSIN AFFIL HOSPS MEDICINE-PRELIM
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO MEDICINE-PRELIM
    ST JOSEPH HOSP-IL MEDICINE-PRELIM
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL MEDICINE-PRELIM
    ST FRANCIS HOSP-EVANSTON-IL MEDICINE-PRELIM
    GOOD SAMARITAN CINN-OH MEDICINE-PRELIM
    ST FRANCIS HOSP-EVANSTON-IL MEDICINE-PRELIM
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO MEDICINE-PRELIM
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO MEDICINE-PRELIM
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO MEDICINE-PRELIM
    ST JOSEPH HOSP-IL MEDICINE-PRELIM
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO MEDICINE-PRELIM
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO MEDICINE-PRELIM


    MASSACHUSETTS GEN HOSP NEUROLOGY
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL NEUROLOGY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO NEUROLOGY
    YALE-NEW HAVEN HOSP-CT NEUROLOGY

    OREGON HEALTH & SCIENCE UNIV OBSTETRICS-GYNECOLOGY
    NAVAL MEDICAL CENTER OBSTETRICS-GYNECOLOGY
    MED COLL WISCONSIN AFFIL HOSPS OBSTETRICS-GYNECOLOGY
    ALBERT EINSTEIN MED CTR-PA OBSTETRICS-GYNECOLOGY
    UC SAN FRANCISCO-CA OBSTETRICS-GYNECOLOGY
    ADVOCATE IL MASONIC MED CTR OBSTETRICS-GYNECOLOGY

    UNIV OF CHICAGO MED CTR-IL OPHTHALMOLOGY
    U TEXAS OPHTHALMOLOGY
    J. HOPKINS-WILMER GBMC OPHTHALMOLOGY
    THOMAS JEFFERSON UNIVERSITY OPHTHALMOLOGY
    MED C WISCONSIN OPHTHALMOLOGY

    U KANSAS SOM-WICHITA ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY
    U WASHINGTON AFFIL HOSPS ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY
    GEORGETOWN UNIV HOSP-DC ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY
    NEW ENGLAND MED CTR-MA ORTHOPAEDIC SURGERY

    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO OTOLARYNGOLOGY
    NORTHWESTERN MCGAW/NMH/VA-IL OTOLARYNGOLOGY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO OTOLARYNGOLOGY

    MASSACHUSETTS GEN HOSP PATHOLOGY
    BARNES-JEWISH HOSP-MO PATHOLOGY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO PATHOLOGY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO PATHOLOGY

    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO PEDIATRICS
    MED COLL WISCONSIN AFFIL HOSPS PEDIATRICS
    ADVOCATE CHRIST MED CTR-IL PEDIATRICS
    CHILDRENS HOSP BOSTON-MA PEDIATRICS
    NORTHWESTERN MCGAW/CMH-IL PEDIATRICS
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO PEDIATRICS
    ADVOCATE LUTHERAN GEN HOSP-IL PEDIATRICS
    CHILDRENS HOSP-ORANGE CO-CA PEDIATRICS
    MT SINAI HOSP MED CTR-IL PEDIATRICS
    SIU SOM & AFFIL HOSPS-IL PEDIATRICS
    ADVOCATE LUTHERAN GEN HOSP-IL PEDIATRICS
    KAISER PERMANENTE-OAKLAND-CA PEDIATRICS
    ST JOSEPHS HOSPITAL-AZ PEDIATRICS
    MIAMI CHILDRENS HOSP-FL PEDIATRICS
    KAISER PERMANENTE-SO CA REGION PEDIATRICS
    MED COLL WISCONSIN AFFIL HOSPS PEDIATRICS
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL PEDIATRICS
    ST LOUIS CHILDRENS-MO PEDIATRICS
    UNIV OF CHICAGO MED CTR-IL PEDIATRICS

    NYU PSYCHIATRY
    NYP HOSP-WEILL CORNELL MED CTR-NY PSYCHIATRY
    ADVOCATE LUTHERAN GEN HOSP-IL PSYCHIATRY
    UC SAN FRANCISCO-CA PSYCHIATRY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO PSYCHIATRY
    UC IRVINE MED CTR-CA PSYCHIATRY
    NORTHWESTERN MCGAW/NMH/VA-IL PSYCHIATRY
    MASSACHUSETTS GEN HOSP PSYCHIATRY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO PSYCHIATRY

    SUNY UPSTATE MED UNIVERSITY RADIATION-ONCOLOGY

    U WASHINGTON AFFIL HOSPS RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC
    ALBERT EINSTEIN MED CTR-PA RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC
    UNIVERSITY HOSPITALS CASE MED CTR-OH RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC
    MORRISTOWN MEM HOSP-NJ RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC
    NORTHWESTERN MCGAW/NMH/VA-IL RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC
    MAYO SCHOOL OF GRAD MED EDUC-MN RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC/UIC
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC/UIC
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC/UIC


    UMDNJ-NEW JERSEY MED-NEWARK SURGERY-PLASTIC SURGERY


    UNIV CALIFORNIA SAN FRANCISCO SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    HERSHEY MED CTR/PENN STATE-PA SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    U SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    NORTHWESTERN MCGAW/NMH/VA-IL SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    TEMPLE UNIVERSITY HOSP SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    SIU SOM & AFFIL HOSPS-IL SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    SIU SOM & AFFIL HOSPS-IL SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
    RUSH UNIVERSITY MED CTR-IL SURGERY-PRELIMINARY

    ST FRANCIS HOSP-EVANSTON-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    ST FRANCIS HOSP-EVANSTON-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    MACNEAL MEM HOSP-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    RESURRECTION MED CTR-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    ST JOSEPH HOSP-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    LOUIS WEISS/U CHICAGO-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    MACNEAL MEM HOSP-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    ST JOSEPH HOSP-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    ST FRANCIS HOSP-EVANSTON-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    DETROIT MED CTR CORPORATION-MI TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    MACNEAL MEM HOSP-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    LOUIS WEISS/U CHICAGO-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    SWEDISH COVENANT HOSP-IL TRANSITIONAL YEAR
    UPMC PRESBYTERIAN SHADYSIDE-PA TRANSITIONAL YEAR

    SOUTHERN IL UNIV SOM UROLOGY
    SOUTHERN IL UNIV SOM UROLOGY
    U ILLINOIS COM-CHICAGO UROLOGY
    MILTON S. HERSHEY MED CTR UROLOGY
     
  38. Mr. Belding

    Mr. Belding The Dude abides 7+ Year Member

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    18
    Dec 18, 2006
    Bat country
    Jesus. UTH has almost 20 people doing gas...
     
  39. bodonid

    bodonid Dr. Spaceman 5+ Year Member

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    Jul 18, 2007
    Can someone please elaborate on the issue of regionality in the match?
     
  40. Doctor&Geek

    Doctor&Geek 25 > 5 / 15 < 8 Physician PhD Lifetime Donor Classifieds Approved 10+ Year Member

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    Mar 25, 2002
    2008 UAB Match
    "*" = MD/PhD

    Primary Care

    Internal Medicine (32):
    UAB (9), Duke (2), Baylor (2), WashU, Emory, Chicago, Virginia, VCU (2), Wake Forest (2), USF, Temple, Kentucky, MUSC, Virginia Mason, MCG, Baptist/Birmingham (2), Wright-Patterson (Air Force)

    Pediatrics (13):
    UAB (3), CHOP*, Cincinnati, Vanderbilt (2), UNC, VCU, CMKC, WFU, Arkansas

    Family Practice (15):
    Tuscaloosa (4), Huntsville, St. Vincent's East/AL (2), Vancouver/WA (2), Floyd/GA, Elgin/FL (Air Force), Brazos Valley/TX, Kansas, St. Joseph's/IN, St. Joseph/CO, Bayfront/FL

    Preliminary Medicine (1)

    Surgical Subspecialties

    General Surgery (13):
    UAB (4), Emory, Minnesota, WFU, Louisville, Kentucky, Mayo-Jax, Kansas, Portsmouth (Navy), Greenville/SC

    Orthopaedic Surgery (8):
    UAB, Arkansas (2), Mississippi, Louisville, UTMemphis, UTChattanooga, UTMB

    Ophthalmology (3):
    UAB (2), UTMemphis

    Otolaryngology (3):
    UAB, WFU, Rush

    Neurosurgery (2):
    UAB, UTMB

    Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery (3):
    UAB (3)

    Urology (2):
    Ochsner, GWU

    Preliminary Surgery (3)

    Everything Else

    Anesthesiology (17):
    UAB (8), Virginia (2), Chicago, Duke, Miami, Arkansas, UTHSC-SA, MUSC, UTKnoxville

    OB/GYN (9):
    UAB (3), Ohio State, Mississippi, Kentucky (2), Texas A&M, Maricopa

    Emergency Medicine (7):
    UAB (2), Louisville, Florida, Carolinas, Albert Einstein, Eastern Virginia

    Radiology (7):
    UAB (3), Oklahoma, Maryland, Memorial/Savannah, Baptist/Birmingham

    Psychiatry (6):
    UAB (4), Vanderbilt, Maryland

    Pathology (4):
    UAB, Michigan*, SLU, Baptist/Birmingham

    Neurology (4):
    UAB (3), Emory

    Dermatology (4)
    UAB, Michigan (2) **, MUSC

    Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation (2):
    Temple, UTHSC-SA

    Radiation Oncology (1):
    Louisville
     
  41. SocialistMD

    SocialistMD Resident Objectivist 10+ Year Member

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    Oregon
    A plurality of graduates go into internal medicine.

    mtd0130- Where did you find UT-H's match list on their website? It isn't posted where they have put it in the past.
     
  42. paranoid_eyes

    paranoid_eyes 2+ Year Member

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    actually, the limited derm spots are probably due to the fact that the less dermatologist you have, the higher the demand for any individual dermatologist, and the more money he/she makes.

    Honestly, if you have the smarts, why not go into derm/plastics? Why would you slave your life away for mediocre pay as a FP or internist when you could be "helping people" and making the dough? Dermatologists have great hours, relatively easy work, good pay, and a good lifestyle in general. When you are like 50 years old, these things are really important.
     
  43. pjm

    pjm Senior Member 10+ Year Member

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    NYC
  44. nevercold

    nevercold 2+ Year Member

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    Oct 19, 2007
    There is none. I grew up in Maryland, went to med school at Duke, and matched in Medicine-Pediatrics at UCSD. I went on three west coast interviews and was warmly received at all of them. The only thing regionality contributes to in the match is very locally, like between Duke and UNC, the programs know each other well and respect each others' students. Otherwise, region shouldn't limit you.

    Politics/connections are significant in more competitive things like derm, plastics, and radiology, but that is not always region-based as much as it is simply who the people in the department of that field at your school know and who you get to know.

    The biggest influence of regionality tends to be on an applicant's own match list--i.e. if you want to be in a particular part of the country.
     
  45. exmike

    exmike NOR * CAL 10+ Year Member

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    May 19, 2003
    Bay Area
    Pediatrics - 18
    Johns Hopkins
    Georgetown
    University of Pittsburgh
    University of Pittsburgh
    Northwestern
    Children’s Hospital of Boston
    Rainbow Babies & Childrens / University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Rainbow Babies & Childrens / University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Rainbow Babies & Childrens / University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Rainbow Babies & Childrens / University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Rainbow Babies & Childrens / University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Rainbow Babies & Childrens / University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Vanderbilt University
    St Louis Childrens Hospital
    Indiana University
    Childrens Hospital of Oakland
    Nationwide Children’s Hospital
    North Shore/Long Island Jewish

    Internal Medicine - 17
    Stanford
    Stanford
    California Pacific Medical Center
    Tulane
    Duke University
    University of North Carolina
    University of Michigan
    University of Michigan
    Emory University
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    UC Irvine
    Boston University
    Wright Patterson Medical Center
    University of Colorado
    Cedars-Sinai

    Family Medicine - 12
    University of Pittsburgh
    Dartmouth
    Dartmouth
    University of Arizona
    Swedish Medical Center Seattle
    Swedish Medical Center Seattle
    Fairview Medical Center
    St. Joseph Hospital IL
    Providence Milwaukie Hospital
    University of Illinois
    Conroe Regional Medical Center
    University of North Carolina

    Anesthesiology - 9
    University of Maryland
    Massachusetts General Hospital
    Brigham & Women’s Hospital
    Northwestern
    Northwestern
    University of Michigan
    Mayo Clinic
    Barnes-Jewish Hospital
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center

    Radiology - 9
    St. Francis Hospital Evanston
    Lennox Hill Hospital
    St. Vincent Hospital MA
    Case Western/MetroHealth Medical Center
    Case Western/MetroHealth Medical Center
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    University of Pittsburgh

    Orthopedics - 7
    University of Chicago
    Hamot Medical Center PA
    University of Washington
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Cleveland Clinic
    William Beaumont Hospital MI
    Grand Rapids Medical

    Obstetrics/Gynecology -7

    Naval Medical Center San Diego
    University of Chicago
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Barnes-Jewish Hospital
    Methodist Hospital TX
    Akron General
    University of Pittsburgh

    Emergency Medicine - 6
    University of Connecticut
    University of Nevada Las Vegas
    University of Colorado
    Case Western / Metro Health Medical Center
    Barnes-Jewish Hospital MO
    University of New Mexico

    Psychiatry – 6
    Henry Ford Hospital
    UCLA Medical Center
    Cleveland Clinic
    Harvard
    University of Arizona
    University of Vermont

    Ophthalmology - 5
    Mayo Clinic
    Ohio State University
    Wake Forest University
    University of Michigan
    University of Miami/Bascom Palmer Eye Institute

    Dermatology - 4
    Cleveland Clinic
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    Stanford University
    University of Pennsylvania

    Plastic Surgery - 4
    University of Michigan
    University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center
    Grand Rapids/MSU
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center

    General Surgery - 4

    New York Presbyterian Hospital – Cornell
    University of California San Diego
    University of Nevada LV
    University of Toledo

    Neurology – 4
    University of Pennsylvania
    New York Presbyterian Hospital – Columbia
    Duke University
    Stanford University

    Otolaryngology - 3
    New York University
    University of North Carolina
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center

    Urology - 3
    University of Miami Medical Center
    Medical University of South Carolina
    Henry Ford Hospital

    Pathology - 3
    Massachusetts General Hospital
    Brigham & Women’s Hospital Boston
    Brigham & Women’s Hospital Boston

    Radiation Oncology - 2
    University of Texas – MD Anderson Cancer Center
    University of South Florida / Moffitt

    Oral & Maxillofacial – 2
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center
    University Hospitals Case Medical Center

    Medicine/Pediatrics - 1

    Ohio State University

    Psych/Peds/Child Psych - 1

    University of Utah

    Pediatric Neurology -1
    Childrens’ National Medical Center DC

    Neurosurgery - 1
    Indiana University

    PM&R - 1

    New York Presbyterian Hospital – Columbia
     
  46. mtd0130

    mtd0130 5+ Year Member

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  47. Rfectea

    Rfectea 2+ Year Member

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    Do you know the match stats for the MSTP students? Are they included in this list?
     
  48. LoneCoyote

    LoneCoyote 7+ Year Member

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    If you know you want to end up in a certain area of the country, there is some advantage to going to medical school in that region. For example, I'm at school in California and 75% of my class matched in California. Most of the people who wanted to stay in CA were able to do so. Many medical schools will take many of their own students as residents, so this will increase your chances of staying in the area. Also, it is a small world in academic medicine and a letter of recommendation from attendings at your school will likely be well-received by others in that region who may know your letter writer well. You may also have opportunities to attend regional conferences in medical school and to network with people from other programs in the area.

    That said, it is definitely still possible to match into another area of the country that is different from where you go to school. You may want to do an away rotation at a program in the area you want to match into to show your interest. Or you can tailor your personal statement to address why you want to be in that area. Letters of rec from people well-known in their field will also likely be well-received in an part of the country. I did encounter some regionalism at interviews, "ie why would you want to leave CA to come here?" But for the most part if you have a good explanation it shouldn't be an issue. Hope that helps.
     
  49. Law2Doc

    Law2Doc 5K+ Member Physician Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

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    But that's kind of self selecting statistics. Folks who wanted to go to med school in CA are the same people more likely to want to do residency in CA. Doesn't mean that there aren't folks elsewhere in the country who couldn't have snagged all those spots if they had any interest in being in CA, or that your class could have had the same percentage success at east coast schools if they didn't have a goal of staying in CA. If you do well in school and boards at a good allo school, you have a good shot at any residency anywhere. The fact that folks in state X often stay in state X doesn't go tell you as much about their odds at matching there over OOSers, just that their desire to stay there was probably greater than OOSers. Again, it's hard to look at raw data and draw conclusions since you don't know what people at various schools are shooting for. What you read as success could really be default.
     
  50. paranoid_eyes

    paranoid_eyes 2+ Year Member

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    DAMN Case Western has a good match list this year..:thumbup:
     
  51. patzan

    patzan Waiting for March 20th 7+ Year Member

    Vanderbilt Match List
    Don't trust the numbers at the bottom, I did them quickly.


    Anesthesia (7)
    Vanderbilt (3)
    Baylor
    Jackson Memorial Hospital
    Stanford
    Michigan


    Derm (4)
    Yale
    BU
    UAB
    MGH


    ER (10)
    N.Y. Presbyterian Hospital (Columbia)
    Hennepin County Medical Center
    BU
    Beth Israel Deaconess
    Carolinas Medical Center
    UC Davis
    Loma Linda U.
    Barnes-Jewish Hosptital (WashU)
    VCU
    Stanford


    Medicine (10)
    Vanderbilt (4)
    Northwestern
    UCLA
    Barnes-Jewish Hospital (WashU)
    MGH
    New England Medical Center (Tufts)
    U. of New Mexico


    Med/Peds (5)
    Vanderbilt (2)
    Baylor
    MGH
    U. of Minnesota


    Neuro (2)
    MGH
    NYU


    Neurosurgery (2)
    Cleveland Clinic Foundation
    U. of Washington


    Ob/Gyn (5)
    Carolinas Medical Center
    UNC
    U. of Oklahoma
    Brigham & Women's Hospital
    Vanderbilt


    Ophtho (2)
    Baylor
    U. of Illinois

    Ortho (8)
    Barnes-Jewish Hospital (WashU)
    Vanderbilt
    Hospital for Special Surgery (Cornell)
    Florida
    UAB
    Arizona
    Emory
    Utah


    Path (1)
    Johns Hopkins


    Peds (11)
    Vanderbilt (6)
    Colorado
    Cincinnati Children's Hospital
    Children's Hospital of Boston
    N.Y. Presbyterian Hospital-Columbia U. Medical Center
    N.Y. Presbyterian Hospital-Weill Cornell Medical Center


    Plastics (1)
    Michigan


    Psych (2)
    U. of Pittsburgh
    U. of New Mexico


    Rad Onc (2)
    U. of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
    Vanderbilt


    Radiology (5)
    Vanderbilt
    MGH
    U. of Cincinnati
    Mayo Clinic
    Wake Forest


    Surgery (10)
    Vanderbilt (5)
    UAB
    Florida
    Emory
    Indiana
    Colorado


    Thoracic Surgery (1)
    Stanford


    Urology (1)
    UCLA


    Top Hospitals
    Vanderbilt (24)
    Harvard-affiliated (8)
    WashU (3)
    Stanford (3)
    Baylor (3)
    UAB (3)


    Other notables:
    Cornell (2)
    Columbia (2)
    Hopkins
    Mayo
    MD Anderson
    Yale
    Cincinnati Children's
     

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