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2009-2010 NYU Application Thread
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Me too: I was there on 10/6 and also got in at 9:07am today! Did we meet each other? I was the girl from NYC with the long hair.
I felt elated all day because of the awesome news. 😀
Accepted today!!!!
Interview on 10/16
Never thought I would get in. Dream school.
Interview on 10/16
Never thought I would get in. Dream school.
Wow, 5 acceptances! Congrats! UVA and NYU are both amazing schools, so whichever you decide to attend you will have a great experience!
-From what I remember from interview day, most of the training occurs at Bellevue
Yes, I do remember you! I think we spoke on the way back from the bellevue tour. I was one of the only interviewees not from NY if that helps, lol. Congrats! I hope we're classmates this fall!
Hi flip26,
I have acceptances at UVA and NYU as well, so I'm very interested to hear what you end up deciding. 🙂 They seem like such different programs, it will be hard to compare them. I'm OOS for Virginia so they'll both be expensive lol. Maybe I'll be seeing you next year! Also, best of luck to everyone else still waiting!
The new curriculum and med school building at UVA are HUGE plusses.
Both schools are P/F pre clinical, a wash.
Clinicals at Bellevue, and any other NYC hospitals, are a HUGE plus to me. Personally, I think the last 2 years of med school are more important than the first two...I am not too crazy about the req to rotate around the state of VA - need to learn a lot more about this aspect.
I know UVA better, having volunteered in the health system. The attendings, residents, and nurses are some of the friendliest and most supportive people I can imagine you would find anywhere. This is a big plus in my mind. I have no frame of reference for NYU, not sure how I will learn more about this.
I think the "life in the big city versus the small town" are overrated concerns. You are there to attend med school, thus the experiences and the education and preparation you receive are paramount.
A dilemma. And what makes it worse is that until you get actual finaid packages in hand, it is difficult to know how the decision will be made. I mean, money matters - I wish it didn't. But for me, even if money was a non-issue, this will still be a very tough choice, and the money is one more very important factor that doesn't get put into focus until May.
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disagree. NYC is one of the few places where you know you're there even if you're working incredibly hard most of the time. i'm not talking about how there's always fabulous NYC stuff to do (because i've lived here 5+ years and have no interest in the nightlife, believe it or not), i'm talking about general lifestyle stuff.
NYC is also a very stressful place to live for dealing with everyday stuff. There is a downside to life in big cities (I have lived in both Boston and Chicago, so I know a little something about it). Are the big cities "exciting?" Sure they are...but that "excitement" wears off, eventually.
Also - where you study - the actual physical surroundings, the comforts - are key. In NYC med schools, it is a cramped dorm - hard to imagine getting tons of privacy in any of those dorms. This is also a concern. I haven't lived in a dorm, or shared a room or toilet, with anybody else in a long time...not looking forward to that aspect at all. It seems to me that in NYC, it would be very hard to "escape" the madding crowds - you are constantly surrounded by other people...this is a concern to me. (PS - I know that "comfort" matters to you, too, dw, because you posted concerns about being able to bring your own bed to the dorm/apt at MSSM, right?).
But let me add that for the above concerns, as I indicated in the other post, are secondary to my decision (I said "overrated"). None of this will swing my decision assuming I am convinced that one school offers a superior educational experience over the other. The education and training are the most important aspects to me, regardless of the location, or the availability of a fabulous nightlife, or any of the other things that most people seem to prattle on about on these threads (not saying you, but many others do).
Elaborate on "general lifestyle stuff" please, because I am not sure what you mean here. I know, and live around, tons of med students and residents. They have no "lifestyle" other than the one that is imposed on them by the demands of this life.
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you just proved my point, thanks. you said that "life in the big city vs. small town" wasn't really something to think about. i'm saying you do 100% notice this stuff, at least in NYC. you already understood what i meant by lifestyle-- paragrah #1 of your post.
also notice i didn't try to say that NYC was the best in my post. everyone has to figure out what type of environment is best for them.
i thought you "quit" SDN anyway 🙄
I quit the childish, homophobic, and inane bullspit on the 2014 thread.
I use SDN to share, and acquire, useful info about this process. I leave the rest of the nonsense to you and your pals...
I never said location was not something to think about - I said the concerns are overrated, or are at least somewhat secondary, to the purpose of the 4 years of med school (and my comment is pointedly directed at people who say things like "Charlottesville will be so boring compared to fab NYC" so maybe you and I are agreeing here? Not sure). Also, I am not making any argument for Charlottesville over NYC or any other place, either. There are pluses and minuses to every city.
So let me clarify: Location and all that entails is simply lower on my list of concerns than it is for most people. The quality of the education and preparation for residency is my #1 concern, followed closely by the cost..."general lifestyle" and the comforts are important, but secondary for me. I figure I can put up with any living arrangement, or any city, for 4 years, if it is the best possible preparation for a 40 year career in medicine.
PS...I limit my time on SDN now to reading the school threads that matter to me. SDN is a huge time sink...whereas I was wasting lots of time here before (I hate to think how many hours I wasted here), I am on SDN now only about one hour per week, just enough to keep track of school activity, and that's all. "Quitting" was the best thing I have done for myself in a long time.
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To elaborate on that, as a lifelong NYer, what I see in NY that I didn't see in many places I have visited around the country was the convenience and diversity of just the normal everyday things. NYC has what I feel to be the best transportation system in the country, if not the world (24 hr transit of buses and trains). Being in Manhattan (or Brooklyn for that matter) you have everything you could ever want at your fingertips. Late night you don't want to hop in a car and drive to the store, walk down the block to the bodega (general convenience store). The food options are vast and ridiculous at times from NY pizza to Indian to Asian fusion to Caribbean. Plus everything is within range of walking or a short bus/train ride. Any fun that you would want to have (central park, clubbing/bars, museums, etc) is nearby. As a med school you will/should have time to at least enjoy yourself every once in a while so why not have the options to do more with your free time?
And there's the rub: free time. Most of the med students I know, and especially the residents, literally have no free time. Or whatever "free time" they have, they sleep, or they may get together with a significant other or small group of friends for something quiet and low key, not a club.
NYC is best enjoyed by people with lots of time and money. As a med student, I will have little of either one. I am more concerned about everyday hassles like the convenience of doing my laundry and having a comfortable physical space where I can shut out the rest of the world while I study or sleep, and it is these kinds of things that concern me most about life as a med student in NYC, not so much if I can walk to a club or asian fusion restaurant...
NYU students seem to have a lot of free time. One of the deans there was even "complaining" [playfully, of course] about this...this is one of the reasons they may switch to a 18-month basic-science schedule rather than the traditional 24-month one.
I can understand that and your concerns are definitely legitimate but most of the med students in the city that I have met or know from high school/college do have free time to do things and enjoy it out in the night life of the city. NYU med students are notorious for renting out bars/small event halls/going to clubs in Manhattan after each major exam and party it up a lot as I have met many (know a few) in my romps through the city on the weekends. Don't sell yourself short, yes you are there first and foremost for the M.D. but there will be time for other things in those 4 years. It all depends on if you are willing to take advantage of it. As a student in NYC you don't need loads of money to have a good time, time you will need, but there are many cheap/fun options. But it is up to you whether you want to spend that free time sleeping (always a great option), working or going out and enjoying yourself.
While it may be true that people with lots of money and time can afford to experience more of NYC than the rest of us, there is still plenty to be had by us poor and busy students. Experience the city as a student and you'll see.
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What is the status of that change? I have read about it, but I don't really know too much...frankly, that is one of the changes that is coming to UVA curric - shorter pre clinical - and I view that as a positive for any school that can shorten the pre clinical to shift emphasis to the clinical years.
I wish I had a good personal contact at NYU to get more inside scoop. I barely know one student there...and he is just an MS1, and not exactly a pal...but I wish I knew some MS3/4s, or some recent graduates...
We had the curriculum director give us the faculty talk...so it definitely seemed like the 18 month curriculum is ready to go for everyone. I will say that I found the NYU interview day to be somewhat vague, as I kind of left feeling like I hadn't learned too much about the school outside that Bellevue is a really cool hospital.
I disagree with this from my personal experience talking with medical students (from a range of institutions). If you think you're going to have ABSOLUTELY NO FREE TIME in med school you're completely wrong. To be honest, it's really what you make of it. There's certainly variability among different medical schools in the amount of work each institution supplies to students...this is usually related to exam schedules (are they every week? every 2 weeks? every month?)...but while medical school is a daunting and exhausting endeavor, it isn't 24/7 all the time. I've met med students who finish studying everyday at 5 PM during their first year courses and go out almost every weekend and often weekdays...this really isn't too much different from my life now with a real job. I've even hosted med school parties at my own house because I know a fair deal of them in my city...these are real parties, with 30+ people, dancing, wine, beer that last til 2-3 AM. I think it's universally accepted that 2nd year courses become harder than your first year...and that the really bad time of your med school "career" comes in the one year clinical clerkship period usually held during your 3rd year or after finishing 1.5 years of class in a shortened pre-clinical curriculum. 4th year is usually somewhat chilled out from your previous clinical year at most institutions, with sub-internships, second rotations in specialities you really like, research, time off/vacation days, applying to residency. Almost all the medical students I know who had important things in their personal life before coming to medical school, keep doing those things while in medical school.
If all you want to do is study, there will definitely be a place for that mentality as a med student. But, it doesn't have to be that way to be successful in medicine and often isn't like that with students who want a life outside of school.
For me at least, you only get one youth. You can spend that partying it up and failing out of medical school. You can spend it studying 24/7 and being generally unhappy with your life. Or alternatively, you can find a balance between the two. For me, the extra cost of living in a large city for medical school, enjoying the city life when I want, and maybe raking up a little more debt is worth it in the long run if I'm happier for it.
ditto!
Where did I say med students have ABSOLUTELY NO FREE TIME, or that I want/need to study 24/7? The only thing that is false is your misrepresentation of my post.
Please don't turn this into a "how hard is med school" or "how much partying me and my buds do" pissin' match. This is a thread about NYU, and the plusses and minuses of attending med school at NYU or in NYC in general vs other locations.
Thanks for this insight.
I also came away with a very vague understanding of NYU. Frankly, most of the med schools I interviewed at did a poor job informing the applicants - I guess they think everything you could possibly need to know is on the website, but IIRC the NYU website is one of the least informative I have seen.
They also have a very bad search engine for the email addresses of people you may know there - I know this one dude's name, etc., but can't find an email address for him at NYU.
Agreed.
Uhhhh. I've included it below. You actually said those exact words. Verbatim. I do read posts thank you very much. And the point of your entire last post was that med school was too hard to allow for time to do anything a traditional 20 something year old would find fun. I disagree with this.
"And there's the rub: free time. Most of the med students I know, and especially the residents, literally have no free time. Or whatever "free time" they have, they sleep, or they may get together with a significant other or small group of friends for something quiet and low key, not a club."
Bolded is extremely true. I couldn't even write a good secondary essay based on this stuff.
Has anybody received an invite recently or is January booked up and the whole thing over?
Perhaps my sentence structure was not perfect, because my intent was to modify the experience of the residents that I know with the 'literally no free time' part, and only SOME of the med students. The problem is you took that, and then attributed things to my position that I never said...regardless, you completely misconstrued the point of the entire post.
When you have something constructive to the thread - about NYU - it is appreciated.
When you have to put words into someone else's mouth to make your point, umm, **** off. Not interested in pissin' matches on SDN, just looking for info, and sharing experiences with like minded peeps.
flip, i follow some of the same threads that you do, and this is not the first, or the second, or the third time that I've seen you become very heated over someone else's post, to the point of being ridiculous and out of line (i.e. your above post where you tell someone to **** off). Defend yourself however you like, but I don't think I'm alone when I say you need to relax and not get so riled up over a thread.
flip26, when you use the word literally, then we will take it literally rather than try to interpret your imperfect sentence structure.
Also, most>some. It's hard to gauge your intent when you write like that.
Ok back on topic. I'm a west coast person myself, but support networks and feeling comfortable doing med school are important. In addition to family and friends, this could also include location and whatever it has to offer. There's a huge difference living in a spacious suburb that commutes vs living at NYC...
Dude, he said I wrote or implied that I will need to study 24/7 in med school, and that is a gross exaggeration of any point I was making.
Same msg to you - contribute to the thread RE NYU, or you, too, can **** off.
so gross exaggerations merit your attitude? what are you going to do when your patients mistinterpret you or exaggerate something you've said? i wonder how they'll react when you tell them to **** themselves.
though all of your lovely posts are making such valuable contributions to this thread (as I wish mine did), do me a favor: go to UVA.
Merry Christmas B*tches!
Yeah I agree, flip, you're being a little ridiculous. There's nothing wrong with what the other posters are saying... they are entitled to their own opinions as you are to yours. Maybe I'm just biased because of your unnecessary hatred of the 2014 thread, but you really do need to cool it.
In the end I think there is broad agreement that med school is not a 24/7 activity and there is free time to be had.... so there's no need to blow a gasket over it.
Studying in med school will vary from person to person depending on the personality, intellectual curiosity, and goals of the med student.
For example, if you are hoping to land a ROAD-type residency, you will probably have less free time due to the need to compile an exemplary record in order to get that coveted slot as opposed to your classmate who is interested in family practice residency.
Some people want to be junior AOAs, and they will probably spend most of their time on schoolwork, while others just want to pass their classes.
The bottom line is there is always more to learn than you will have time to absorb. You will need to find your comfort level.
For example, if you are hoping to land a ROAD-type residency, you will probably have less free time due to the need to compile an exemplary record in order to get that coveted slot as opposed to your classmate who is interested in family practice residency.
Some people want to be junior AOAs, and they will probably spend most of their time on schoolwork, while others just want to pass their classes.
The bottom line is there is always more to learn than you will have time to absorb. You will need to find your comfort level.
So anyway...NYU! congrats to all those accepted, i was excited when I got my acceptance email (wasn't expecting anything till monday since that was the rumor around here )
I'd just like to reiterate that if any current students have the skinny on the 1.5 yr vs. 2 yr preclinical curriculum, don't hesitate to post up something about it. I'd be very interested to hear whats going on.
Now i'm going to have tough decisions to make with other acceptances...just gotta wait for 2 more schools then i'll have all the info i need...
good luck to all!
I'd just like to reiterate that if any current students have the skinny on the 1.5 yr vs. 2 yr preclinical curriculum, don't hesitate to post up something about it. I'd be very interested to hear whats going on.
Now i'm going to have tough decisions to make with other acceptances...just gotta wait for 2 more schools then i'll have all the info i need...
good luck to all!
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One of the biggest reasons to go to NYU for me is so I can listen to the Yankees' game on the radio without having to buy XM. Seriously though, Bellevue is an amazing place to get your training. As Sinatra says -- "the City never sleeps" -- and as a med student I suppose I will rarely sleep so at least I know there were be plenty of folks around to keep me company! I grew up in DC and am fortunate enough to have also been admitted to Georgetown. I t is going to be a tough choice and I welcome your thoughts . But I know in DC that if I am hungry at 2 am I will have to get in my car and drive to a 7-11 or a Wendys or some other establishment of that ilk. In NYC my choices will be far greater and they will be only steps away. It is not just a question of how much free time you have but also WHEN that time is free...and in NY it will matter far less. Between that and Bellevue I guess you can sense I am leaning torward NYU but being close to family is also a factor.... Anyway enough rambling.
I hope all of you enjoy the holidays.
I hope all of you enjoy the holidays.
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Me too.
At my interview day, both of my tour guides said that they were absolutely in the process of transitioning to a 1.5 year pre-clinical. I don't know when the transition is set to take effect, though.
Let me start by saying a huge congratulations to those who have gotten in!! Very jealous 👍
So, I absolutely adore this place. But I interviewed 11/13 and I didn't get any news on 12/18...And given that an 11/20 got an acceptance, I'm beginning to get worried. I literally would give my left arm to come, so can anyone give me an idea of the probability of being skipped over once and then getting an acceptance by March? Just FYI, I was invited to interview sometime during the month of November (from 9th-30th), so I interviewed pretty early in that cycle.
(And BTW, I know I sound a bit neurotic, but like I said, my left arm...😉)
Thank you all SOSO much!
So, I absolutely adore this place. But I interviewed 11/13 and I didn't get any news on 12/18...And given that an 11/20 got an acceptance, I'm beginning to get worried. I literally would give my left arm to come, so can anyone give me an idea of the probability of being skipped over once and then getting an acceptance by March? Just FYI, I was invited to interview sometime during the month of November (from 9th-30th), so I interviewed pretty early in that cycle.
(And BTW, I know I sound a bit neurotic, but like I said, my left arm...😉)
Thank you all SOSO much!
Ditto, interviewed 11/16 and am absolutely crapping myself. I know last year they had two acceptance days in December, so I'm really hoping there's another wave before Christmas. Not holding my breath though, and waiting till March for a decision would be so difficult. Bah.
11/20 interviewee here too. No news on Dec 18...I think means bad news for me. Congrats to everyone else!
i think they said like 90 percent of M1s live in the dorms...but i'd love to know more about living if any current students can comment
junior AOAs???
I received an invite on the 17th, so they must be sending out a few still. However, I've been having trouble getting a hold of the interview office for a couple of days now. Anybody else get through recently?
I had the same problem scheduling my interview - got my invite the week of Thanksgiving and couldn't get through, probably because they were closed (duh). I would imagine the admissions office is closed this week as well, hence the reason why you cannot get through. Too bad they don't leave a phone message to this effect. I would suggest trying first thing Monday morning.
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