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So I have a 27Q MCAT (10P, 8V, 9B)
3.7 Overall GPA
3.65 Science GPA
3.75 Non Science GPA

I have plenty of EC's

What are my chances to these schools:
1. DMU
2. CCOM
3. MSUCOM
4. PCOM
5. UMDNJ

I plan on applying this weekend (the 27th or 28th of June), will this be considered early, normal, or late applying?

I am using my personal statement from my AMCAS page, do DO schools prefer special things in their personal statement that MD do not?


Thanks for the help

My stats were 3.88/3.87 and 25 MCAT, PA resident, DO letter.

I received interviews from DMU 12/4/08 and PCOM 1/13/09. I got accepted 2 weeks later for both. I did not get an interview from CCOM. I got rejected after the secondary.

I sent in my primary sometime in early August. Verified in early September I believe.

I think you will be fine with those two schools. Good luck.
 
I filled out the entire application with all my college experiences. For the work option, I have had only one job in college (I TA a class), should I include jobs I had prior to college as well? I have 4 tabs for volunteering and Ec's, should I include more? Also, for the location where parents or family are doctors portion, I personally couldn't fill any of that out, is that a big deal? I will be the first doctor in the family.

Basically, how many tabs should I have filled in?

"should I include jobs I had prior to college as well?"
-nope-

"I have 4 tabs for volunteering and Ec's, should I include more?"
-include any volunteering and EC's that you've done(some people will have more, some less).... quality counts more than quantity

"Also, for the location where parents or family are doctors portion, I personally couldn't fill any of that out, is that a big deal?"
-no biggie, lots of people don't have docs in the family, i don't.. lol

good luck!
 
Hey guys,

nsGPA 3.1
sGPA 2.82
MCAT 25Q (7p, 9v, 9b)

EC's include shadowing experiences with both DOs and MDs, 2 years clinical research, member of multiple organizations (leadership role in some), some volunteering.

What do you think my chances are of being accepted to a DO school?
 
I am not trying to put down the curriculum, I just trying to understand it, so please don't take any offense to my comments. I would greatly appreciate your feedback though. Because you probably understand a lot more about this than me.

With ATSU-SOMA it hard for me to understand that you can learn all of your second year academics in a clinic, maybe I just not comprehending what exactly you do you second year, besides just starting clinical rotations early. My fear is what if you end up in a clinic with not much going on, how are you going to learn all that pathology and pharmacology you are supposed to know the second year?

I'm not an expert or anything, but from my research during your second year yes you are on rotations but every week you have a few lectures at the CHC. There is a lot of information out there, I know you are just trying to get ideas from us, but take every bit of advice on here with a grain of salt and double-check everything. Good luck!
 
I am not trying to put down the curriculum, I just trying to understand it, so please don't take any offense to my comments. I would greatly appreciate your feedback though. Because you probably understand a lot more about this than me.

With ATSU-SOMA it hard for me to understand that you can learn all of your second year academics in a clinic, maybe I just not comprehending what exactly you do you second year, besides just starting clinical rotations early. My fear is what if you end up in a clinic with not much going on, how are you going to learn all that pathology and pharmacology you are supposed to know the second year?

My reply was actually to AdemTD's comment about ATSU-SOMA, I wasn't offended at all by anything you or he/she said, I was just trying to point out that to dismiss a school without closely investigating the curriculum would be foolish.

Obviously, you do want to take a closer look though, so I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can. Bear with me as I'm still an M-0, so while I can't share real life medical student experience, I can share what I have found through researching the school and visiting the Mesa and Brooklyn campuses. And like I said, it's not for everyone. A lot of people love it, and a lot of people are really turned off by it - it really depends on your learning style and personality.

Year one is 11 months long. This gives you more time to take care of some of the second year stuff before you head out to the clinical sites. Also, the curriculum is system-based, so you are learning pathology and pharmacology from day one, along with anatomy, physiology, biochem, and other standard first year fare.

Year two is a hybrid between clinicals and the remaining systems that you didn't cover in year one. Each Community Health Center has about 10 students from each class. I am told that second years are spending about 60% of their time in class and 40% of the time doing clinical work.

There are 3-4 PhD's/MD/DO's that are ATSU-SOMA faculty at each CHC. Second year classes are taught by these doctors, through podcasts sent from Mesa, and through a computer system that the school developed to deliver lectures to the students. I watched as one of the second years put a lecture on 2X fast forward during parts of the lecture that he understood well, and then slowed it down and rewound it for parts that he needed to understand better. You have time spent in a live forum with the professors from Mesa every week to ask and answer questions. And of course there is small group learning with your cohorts at the CHC, and self study on your own.

The second year students are taking their Step 1 boards right now, so we'll see how all of this is working out for them. I can't help but feel that I will do better on the boards with SOMA's learning style.

One thing that SOMA is weak on (I think, although it could proabably be done if you wanted to bad enough) is laboratory research. I'm sure that there will be as many opportunities for research there compared to other schools. (although no DO school is KNOWN for having a stellar research program, research has got to be even harder at SOMA, given the moving around and the fact that you will be at a clinic, not at a univeristy with the appropriate facilities for lab work.)

That said, I think there will actually be great opportunities for research in Public Health at the clinics, given the patient populations and the physicians that work there.
 
My reply was actually to AdemTD's comment about ATSU-SOMA, I wasn't offended at all by anything you or he/she said, I was just trying to point out that to dismiss a school without closely investigating the curriculum would be foolish.

I did look into their curriculum and I felt it wasn't for me. It is a bit unconventional, or "weird" so that's why I classified it that way. I also left a disclaimer on my statement as being "my opinion." 🙂
 
cgpa-3.48
scigpa-3.45
nons-3.52
MCAT 24Q (8p 8v 8b)
Utah resident
lots of EC's
2,000 hous working as a medical assistant at various clinics
Applied June 15th

Would like to go to VCOM, NECOM, or NOVA? Please let me know what you think.
 
I recently received my MCAT scores-P.S.-7 V.R.-7 B.S.9 (23P) I may have overdone the studying and was too fried when taking the test, regardless my score is poor. My top choice at this point is Midwestern. My GPA is a 3.71 and my science GPA is a 3.69. I have a well rounded application with over 100 hours of shadowing both M.D.'s and D.O.'s, received letters from both physicians. I have 4 years of research, presented at a number of conferences; extensive volunteering and leadership hours. I don't want to retake the MCAT this summer because of time constraints. I want to be sure I do better the next time around, which would be next year. Do I have a shot this year however? Is it worth applying or should I wait?
 
Hey guys,

nsGPA 3.1
sGPA 2.82
MCAT 25Q (7p, 9v, 9b)

EC's include shadowing experiences with both DOs and MDs, 2 years clinical research, member of multiple organizations (leadership role in some), some volunteering.

What do you think my chances are of being accepted to a DO school?

Applying early and presenting yourself in a way that is professional and gripping to read will be key. I would make sure to focus on your strengths and turn your weaknesses into lessons learned and explain how you have improved over time...ect. Make sure to have someone who is a professional writer of some kind review your PS and your essays. Most schools have writing centers and a lot of pre-med advisers have seen so many good and bad essays that they can give you some great pointers. Keep working to improve your GPA (in science especially) if possible during the application process so that you can send the schools you apply to updates on your progress. You most likely will have to show that you can do better than a 2.8 from here on out. That 7 in physics is a little lower than the average score, but if you focus on other areas you may be able to get by without retaking the MCAT.

cgpa-3.48
scigpa-3.45
nons-3.52
MCAT 24Q (8p 8v 8b)
Utah resident
lots of EC's
2,000 hous working as a medical assistant at various clinics
Applied June 15th

Would like to go to VCOM, NECOM, or NOVA? Please let me know what you think.

You have a lower end MCAT score, but it by no means terrible. Your grades, as I am sure you already know are around the average so no worries there. Make sure to get expert help on your PS and essays. Present yourself as positively as possible without embellishing the truth and apply early.


I recently received my MCAT scores-P.S.-7 V.R.-7 B.S.9 (23P) I may have overdone the studying and was too fried when taking the test, regardless my score is poor. My top choice at this point is Midwestern. My GPA is a 3.71 and my science GPA is a 3.69. I have a well rounded application with over 100 hours of shadowing both M.D.'s and D.O.'s, received letters from both physicians. I have 4 years of research, presented at a number of conferences; extensive volunteering and leadership hours. I don't want to retake the MCAT this summer because of time constraints. I want to be sure I do better the next time around, which would be next year. Do I have a shot this year however? Is it worth applying or should I wait?

An MCAT of 23 is hitting the low end, but if you search the MDapps profiles you will see that many people still gain acceptances to schools with lower scores. Your GPA is strong and you have a lot of research. Again, focus on your strengths and apply early. If you think you can get a better score on the MCAT then I would schedule a retake in September (I think there is one available that late) or something later this summer. Just don't stress and realize that you have an acceptable score already. Continue to focus on your research, volunteering, and medical experience through the application process so that you can update schools on what you have done since you applied. Make sure to submit your apps. as early as possible, but remember, once you hit "submit" your app. cannot be altered and and errors or weaknesses will be sent out to all the schools. Proof read again and again and have someone experienced help you present yourself properly.

Good luck to all of you. This process can be a lot of fun... relax. 🙂
 
Knocked Pikeville, WV, and AZCOM off my list.

I found some statistics on pikeville's site, and counted the number of matriculants from kentucky...

2009 class
32/80

2010
36/80

2011
45/80

Those are pretty intimidating numbers.

Also, I noticed that LECOM has a class size of 400...WTF that is huge, even though this school has a pretty good reputation in the DO world, doesn't that seem absurdly large?

Thanks guys.
 
Knocked Pikeville, WV, and AZCOM off my list.

I found some statistics on pikeville's site, and counted the number of matriculants from kentucky...

2009 class
32/80

2010
36/80

2011
45/80

Those are pretty intimidating numbers.

Also, I noticed that LECOM has a class size of 400...WTF that is huge, even though this school has a pretty good reputation in the DO world, doesn't that seem absurdly large?

Thanks guys.

LECOM likes to brag that they are the largest medical school in the nation in terms of students taught... They include their pharmacy students in that claim though... That 400 number specifically probably includes the D.O. students of both the Bradenton and Erie campuses.... Furthermore, I know for a fact that the new Seton Hill Campus will have only around 104 students in its inaugural class, which may or may not be incorporated in that 400 statistic.
 
So I said final question before, but after clicking application summary I got another one 🙂
So I looked at my personal statement, and it is just one just paragraph...is that how the schools I send this to will see it? Is there anyway to put it into the form I had it in before copy/pasting?

I'm pretty sure that's how everyone's personal statement appears on AACOMAS. And I don't think there is anything you can do to fix it. That's how my ps appeared last year on my app.
 
So I said final question before, but after clicking application summary I got another one 🙂
So I looked at my personal statement, and it is just one just paragraph...is that how the schools I send this to will see it? Is there anyway to put it into the form I had it in before copy/pasting?

I was able to break mine up into paragraphs, but it involves burning a character in between each paragraph. I put my PS into Notepad, and separated the paragraphs with line breaks. I was able to cut and paste from Notepad straight to the html field with no formatting changes.

I was right up to the character limit, so I ended up single-spacing after periods instead of double-spacing.
 
Hey all. I'm retaking OChem II Lecture (got a D) over the second summer session at my school. My grades won't be in until Aug 24. After that, I still have to wait for the transcripts to send and be verified. I'm scared sh**less about applying so late. Should I wait until my grade has posted, or just submit transcripts now that show that the retake is in progess? Also, in AACOMAS, if I've marked the OChem grade as a repeat, I noticed that it doesn't include the grade in the GPA, even if I don't have the "last repeat" grade listed. Will be still be like that when I submit?
 
I'd apply now. It takes 4-6 weeks to get verified, and when your new and shiny retake grade comes in, I'd send the updated transcript to each school you applied to. As far as marking your Ochem grade as a repeat, that sounds like a genius move. It's not lying, so don't worry about it. If AACOMAS thinks it is, they'll correct it before you're completely verified. You can get it corrected when you submit the retake grade. Submit now, get verified, send updated transcript later.
 
so im all done with my application but it says my transcripts arent received on the website. Do i have to wait till it says yes transcripts received before i can submit my app????
 
so im all done with my application but it says my transcripts arent received on the website. Do i have to wait till it says yes transcripts received before i can submit my app????

Negative. Go ahead an submit. It won't go out till they are received though.
 
Negative. Go ahead an submit. It won't go out till they are received though.

How long does it take for them to receive it usually because i had my school send my transcripts a week and a half ago???
 
How long does it take for them to receive it usually because i had my school send my transcripts a week and a half ago???

Depends on how speedy the registrar's office is at your school, but they should have your transcripts by now. That being said, they still have to verify and complete your file, so it's perfectly fine your transcripts aren't showing as "received". They have a lot of applications to sort through. Patience is a virtue.😀
 
Ok...I'm going to be brutally honest and ask that you all do the same...

I took all my general ed classes at a community college and got straight A's, then transfered to a university to do my pre-reqs and bio major work. I got really cocky after the 4.0 at the community college and my coursework hasn't been too hot...I've had to retake 7 classes including both OChem I and II lectures, a physics lab and lecture, spanish, psychology and a math class. In all of my retakes I got A's or B's. But I'm worried about this overall pattern of going from straight A's to B's and C's. I'm paranoid that the adcoms are going to look at me and say "he can't handle this..."

A little more about me:
- 3.1 cGPA, 2.89sGPA
- took MCAT on 6/18, still waiting for scores but scored 29-30 on diagnostics
- biology major/communications minor
- nontrad who worked throughout school to support wife and kids
- CNA is major medical center for 1 year
- 50 hours shadowing
- full-time two year mission to New Orleans
- taught ESL for a year
- youth minister in my church
- excellent personal statement and LORs

Just wondering what my chances are with the lousy GPA. Do schools screen based on cGPA or both cGPA and sGPA? I'm not hoping to get into a particular school, just one on this continent would be nice. :xf:
 
Hey everyone, I figured I would post on here to see what you think. My stats are a little unusual. I have a 2.5 Science and a 2.5 overall undergraduate GPA. I know that is terrible. I am in a Master's Program with a 4.0 in Toxicology and only have 3 classes left. I took the MCAT twice 28O (10PS, 10VR, 8BS) then 28P (9PS, 8VR 11BS). I do have ridiculous amounts of experience and extra currics and have REALLY good LOR (one from my PI, one from the Head of the Department in my master's program, and one from the professor who help start the med-school at FSU)...what'dya think?
 
I'd apply now. It takes 4-6 weeks to get verified, and when your new and shiny retake grade comes in, I'd send the updated transcript to each school you applied to. As far as marking your Ochem grade as a repeat, that sounds like a genius move. It's not lying, so don't worry about it. If AACOMAS thinks it is, they'll correct it before you're completely verified. You can get it corrected when you submit the retake grade. Submit now, get verified, send updated transcript later.

So when we update our submitted apps after taking summer courses (or whatever the circumstance), can we send the transcripts to AACOMAS and AACOMAS will update all the schools we applied to? Or, do we have to send transcripts directly to every school we applied to, plus updating AACOMAS?
 
Is it bad if I haven't submitted yet? Just trying to finish up my PS...

By the way, once you submit, what CAN you and what can you NOT make changes to?
 
So I got my MCAT back. I was fairly disappointed, but this is how my application looks.

3.5 cGPA, 3.3 sGPA
11VR/8BS/8PS - 27Q MCAT
500+ hrs as a Biology Laboratory Technician, 80 hrs Volunteering in Emergency Room, 50 Hrs as a Red Cross Disaster Team Member, 300 hrs volunteering at a public observatory, 100+ hrs volunteering with a biology summer science camp for kids, Currently Shadowing a D.O. in Neurology (so far observed 1 surgery)
Graduate of the Western College of Auctioneering
Worked all throughout college
Graduated highschool at 15, graduating with BA in Biology at 20
(don't know if this helps) Low-income, poor family background, on my own since I was 16. My husband went to Iraq during my sophomore year. I haven't had it easy.

Again, pretty disappointed, although I know my stats are /okay/. I would like to get into LECOM-B, LMU-DCOM, or UT Galveston ideally...
 
Hi everyone... I've been reading the forum for a while, but this is my first post. I would like to know if you guys think I have a chance. Here are my stats:

MCAT: 24N (7PS, 8BS, 9VR)
Cum GPA: 3.63
Sci GPA: 3.40

I have 500-600 hours of volunteering experience under two family practice D.O.'s at a "Fast-Trac ER" in a rural hospital. I've been volunteering since my senior year of HIGH SCHOOL.

I'm applying to OUCOM and am participating in their summer program. I interview in July (yes, this July!). I'm an Ohio resident, and want to stay in the state to practice.

I know that my GPA could be a little better, but my MCAT's are *supposedly* dead-on with OUCOM's average admit. And, being in their summer program, I'm hoping that gives me a bit of an advantage.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!
 
My thought is that you should have posted in the main "What Are My Chances" thread, to where this is going to get moved as soon as it comes to a mod's attention.
 
GPA: 3.31
sGPA 3.33
MCAT 28R PS 8 BS 10 VR 10

Worked 15 hours per week through all of school
120~ hours volunteering in ER and Pediatrics
40 hours shadowing peds endocrinologist
~ 60 hours zoology research

Starting in a week I am shadowing a DO and more than likely getting a job in an ER as a scribe.
applying to like 8-10 DO schools.

Questions: Should I retake the MCAT? averaged 30 on practice tests. 12-13 VR but 7-9 PS and 9-10 BS. I felt like I guessed well to get a 8 in PS this time so I don't want to risk getting lower.

Should I verify now or wait a week to start shadowing and get the job or go for it now?

Thanks everybody
 
So I got my MCAT back. I was fairly disappointed, but this is how my application looks.

3.5 cGPA, 3.3 sGPA
11VR/8BS/8PS - 27Q MCAT
500+ hrs as a Biology Laboratory Technician, 80 hrs Volunteering in Emergency Room, 50 Hrs as a Red Cross Disaster Team Member, 300 hrs volunteering at a public observatory, 100+ hrs volunteering with a biology summer science camp for kids, Currently Shadowing a D.O. in Neurology (so far observed 1 surgery)
Graduate of the Western College of Auctioneering
Worked all throughout college
Graduated highschool at 15, graduating with BA in Biology at 20
(don't know if this helps) Low-income, poor family background, on my own since I was 16. My husband went to Iraq during my sophomore year. I haven't had it easy.

Again, pretty disappointed, although I know my stats are /okay/. I would like to get into LECOM-B, LMU-DCOM, or UT Galveston ideally...

With those ECs you should be just fine I would think. You have about average stats, maybe even a little on the high side. The ECs are fantastic though.
 
I just got my MCAT score today.. and it is a 23P...

I have a 3.71 overall gpa.. and a 3.74 science GPA....

My question is.. should I retake the MCAT or do I have a solid chance at DO schools??

I have very good LORs, solid volunteering and leadership roles...

I have applied to 12 DO schools.. including AZCOM,CCOM,LECOMs, MSUCOM, NYCOM, NSU, PCOM, PCSOM, TOUROCOM, and WVCOM...

My score breakdown was 8-physical... 7 verbal.. 8 biological... (are there schools that cut off a 7? )

Please let me know about retaking mcat or not.. thank you!~

btw.. I have already applied on June 4th.. just waiting for secondaries...
 
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I just got my MCAT score today.. and it is a 23P...

I have a 3.71 overall gpa.. and a 3.74 science GPA....

My question is.. should I retake the MCAT or do I have a solid chance at DO schools??

I have very good LORs, solid volunteering and leadership roles...

I have applied to 12 DO schools.. including AZCOM,CCOM,LECOMs, MSUCOM, NYCOM, NSU, PCOM, PCSOM, TOUROCOM, and WVCOM...

My score breakdown was 8-physical... 7 verbal.. 8 biological... (are there schools that cut off a 7? )

Please let me know about retaking mcat or not.. thank you!~

I would def apply if I were you.
 
Hey guys.....so i just got back my second MCAT score, 08/09/08 VR/PS/BS. My previous score from last year was a 06/07/08 VR/PS/BS. I am glad that I increased from a 21 to a 25, but still disappointed as I scored 28-29 on all 5 of my practice tests. My application are filled out and my transcripts are already in at AACOMAS and AMCAS. I have a cum gpa of 3.72 and sci gpa of 3.76 from AACOMAS and cum gpa of 3.69 and sci of 3.69 from AMCAS. Should I even bother in submitting my AMCAS, or just focus on AACOMAS? I am happy to go to either, I just wanted to apply to both to broaden my chances. Also, I have shadowed both an MD and DO for well over 100 hours each, have about 250 volunteer hours from hospitals, and about 150 other volunteer hours. I also have several leadership experiences, as well as various other extracurriculars. I have 5 good/strong LOR's and have a very good personal statement...in my opinion and in those who read it. I applied last year for AMCAS but withdrew when I got my MCAT back. Oh, I also have finished my undergrad and am looking for a job in this year off. Side question, if I got a job working at a career service center (the only job that I have gotten an offer at albeit my degree is in biochemistry), how will that look? I need a job to make money and pay back some of my loans, and this job a family freind arranged for me. Sorry for the long post, I appreciate your responses and thank you!
 
So when we update our submitted apps after taking summer courses (or whatever the circumstance), can we send the transcripts to AACOMAS and AACOMAS will update all the schools we applied to? Or, do we have to send transcripts directly to every school we applied to, plus updating AACOMAS?

I'm wondering the same thing. Anyone have any insight on this?
 
Hey guys.....so i just got back my second MCAT score, 08/09/08 VR/PS/BS. My previous score from last year was a 06/07/08 VR/PS/BS. I am glad that I increased from a 21 to a 25, but still disappointed as I scored 28-29 on all 5 of my practice tests. My application are filled out and my transcripts are already in at AACOMAS and AMCAS. I have a cum gpa of 3.72 and sci gpa of 3.76 from AACOMAS and cum gpa of 3.69 and sci of 3.69 from AMCAS. Should I even bother in submitting my AMCAS, or just focus on AACOMAS? I am happy to go to either, I just wanted to apply to both to broaden my chances. Also, I have shadowed both an MD and DO for well over 100 hours each, have about 250 volunteer hours from hospitals, and about 150 other volunteer hours. I also have several leadership experiences, as well as various other extracurriculars. I have 5 good/strong LOR's and have a very good personal statement...in my opinion and in those who read it. I applied last year for AMCAS but withdrew when I got my MCAT back. Oh, I also have finished my undergrad and am looking for a job in this year off. Side question, if I got a job working at a career service center (the only job that I have gotten an offer at albeit my degree is in biochemistry), how will that look? I need a job to make money and pay back some of my loans, and this job a family freind arranged for me. Sorry for the long post, I appreciate your responses and thank you!

I really think that applying only to DO schools would be the best option. Obviously you have strong extracurriculars and a good GPA but the 25 holds you back for MD schools... It has been said that DO schools look at the entire applicant much more than MD schools, and as such MD schools will probably eliminate you from consideration after seeing the 25 without heavily considering the rest of your app. When I applied I think I remember seeing a 24 or 27 cut off for most MD schools so that is something else to consider, as your 25 may not get you any consideration at some schools. Best of look to you.

Also, there is no reason why you shouldn't retake the MCAT again. I was in your shoes when I applied. I scored anywhere from a 28-31 on most practice tests, received a 21 on my first MCAT and a 25 on the second MCAT. However, I also took a third MCAT 3 weeks after my second, and scored a 29. So improvement is possible, with a person scoring considerably higher on practice tests than it is almost likely. So if you feel like you really could have changed your study habits, or felt like you've gained enough experience on your first two to ensure a better score on the third attempt, I say you should go for that and follow through with your original plan of applying both DO and MD... It's July now, so granted you would have to take an August-September MCAT which would certainly put you at the tail end of the MD cycle, but it's an option.
 
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i have applied 2 years ago and did not get into do schools back. then, i had a 3.28 gpa and 24 mcat( which was 7 verb 9 phys 8 bio). Now after a year of graduate school in biomedical sciences where I got a 4.0 is a apx 3.4 cum and science gpa I also retook my mcat for the fourth time and got a 27M (6 verbal, 11 phys, 10 Bio). E.C are pretty good, shadowed a D.O, EMS for 4 years, did clinical research in anesthesia for the past year..)

Any advice would be appreciated. I sent out my application to get verified about a week ago and am basically applying to every D.O school out there.
 
Hey guys,

Well I got 2 C's one in pre-cal and one in stats. I'm currently taking anatomy 2 where I might get a C very worried I'm doing my best to pull it up to a B. I do work and it is a distraction so I wanted to know if I can explain myself for these grades. I a going to take calculus and I know I have enough time for the class because I already know my work schedule. The two W's I got was in a computer class because I changed my major and the other was in a macroeconomics class where the councler made a mistake and I found out too late 🙁 any advice is appreciated.
 
Well the C's you have in the stats and the calc wont count towards your science gpa for AACOMAS but the anatomy will so do your best and get that up as high as possible. I know you have posted your stats elsewhere but how much do the C's affect your overall / non sci gpa?

The W's can be explained as you did above...I had a W (in gen chem in fact) and I never heard about it whatsoever in any interview, so dont stress on those and concentrate on bringing your anatomy up.

IamAriDO
 
Well the C's you have in the stats and the calc wont count towards your science gpa for AACOMAS but the anatomy will so do your best and get that up as high as possible. I know you have posted your stats elsewhere but how much do the C's affect your overall / non sci gpa?

The W's can be explained as you did above...I had a W (in gen chem in fact) and I never heard about it whatsoever in any interview, so dont stress on those and concentrate on bringing your anatomy up.

IamAriDO

Well my science gpa is still perfect because I haven't taken any high level science courses yet. I will be taking all high level science courses next and the year after. Since I am going from a biology to neuroscience major. I have shadowing and ecs down packed, I work as a pharm tech, will have 4 years of pharmacy volunteering, 4 years of shadowing a neurologist, and 4 years of volunteering in the ER. I am also working on some other things on the side to make up for any bad looking grades like those Cs.
 
Don't worry about it. Start studying hard from this point on.

If you have ec's down then put less emphasis on them. ECs dont mean anything if your grades aren't up to snuff
 
Don't worry about it. Start studying hard from this point on.

If you have ec's down then put less emphasis on them. ECs dont mean anything if your grades aren't up to snuff

Lol so true. Well I guess its time to keep my head in the books and less time in the hospital having fun.
 
Apply. Get this show on the road. You'll get some looks. Do not make the $300,000 mistake.
 
I'm kind of new here and don't usually join in, but I can't get a solid answer anywhere else about my numbers and my chances of getting into an osteopathic school. If anyone wants to and could be so kind as to give me some ideas about my chances, I would be grateful.

My Stats
* GPA 3.81
* Science GPA 3.61
* MCAT 24Q
* Bio Major (BYU)
* 100's of hours of undergrad research
* DO shadowing (90%) and MD shadowing (10%)
* Volunteered at a community center for around 5 months and will return
* Other random community service
* Overseas hospital service in Taiwan
* Leadership position in school club
* Own my own computer repair business (which I intend to happily close if accepted to school)

Please no rude comments, if you think I'm dead in the water, just say so without being demeaning - thanks!

-- If my post needs to be moved to the correct place, please do so, like I said, I'm new here and not 100% familiar with the site.
 
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Your GPA makes up for your MCAT. I think you have a shot at most, if not all schools. Of course, this all depends where you're a resident (state-wise).

This thread will be moved to pre-osteopathic soon.
 
There's a forum for "What are my chances?" threads.

Obviously, the most glaring shortcoming is in your MCAT. Bacchus is right in that your GPA might make up part of it but it's still considered on the low end of the application pool. However, you are by no means 'dead in the water.' There are plenty of people with similar stats getting numerous acceptances. For you, I would say the most important things would have to be:

1. Submit the primary ASAP (You're not late but the longer you wait, the more seats fill)
2. Decide if you want to take the MCAT again and possibly put up applying for another year. If not then
3. Write a killer personal statement. I think the PS is the most significant part of the app (especially for DO schools) that a lot of premeds overlook. Writing a unique, eye-catching PS that turns heads can definetly level the playing field if you're worried about your stats.

That being said...apply! You never know what might happen. It's an expensive process...but even 1 acceptance makes it worth it.
 
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Don't worry about the Ws. I had 5. 🙂

But the C's can really bring down your GPA.
 
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