2011 Match Lists

[username456789]

Year in and year out, Penn's matchlist is probably the one that impresses me the most.

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[Pons Asinorum]

wtf, more derm than family med, more rad-onc than family med, more opthal/rads than family med

What, exactly, about that is unbelievable? That the types of people who intend, and have the talent, to match in to the most competitive specialties end up concentrated at the most competitive, finest medical schools? As much as we need good family medicine physicians, we also need excellent specialists. Penn, rightfully, makes more of the latter than the former.

And you're right ksmi, it is a truly impressive match list.

 

[WingedOx]

wtf, more derm than family med, more rad-onc than family med, more opthal/rads than family med

not too surprising Penn is has a good but not great Family Med program (it's one of the very few places where we at Jeff beat them )... but the Penn students I met on the interview trail weren't kidding when they said they almost had as many people doing Rads as IM. Gotta say I'm impressed.

/I'm still slowly putting together a Jefferson list... slowly. Why is our class so huge?

 

[rHinO1]

Would someone be kind enough to post some west coast match lists? Thanks .

 

[anumama]

University of Chicago Medical Center Anesthesiology
University of Chicago Medical Center Anesthesiology
William Beaumont Hospital Anesthesiology
University of Washington School of Medicine Anesthesiology
University of Chicago Medical Center Anesthesiology
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania Anesthesiology
Barnes Jewish Hospital Anesthesiology
Stanford University Programs Anesthesiology
Rush University Medical Center Anesthesiology
Barnes Jewish Hospital Anesthesiology
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University Anesthesiology
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals Anesthesiology
Texas Tech University Anesthesiology
University of Cincinnati Child Neurology
Henry Ford Health Sciences Center Dermatology
Geisinger Health System Dermatology
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Emergency Medicine
Resurrection Medical Center Emergency Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Emergency Medicine
Brooke Army Medical Center Emergency Medicine
University Hospital Emergency Medicine
Advocate Christ Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Resurrection Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Madigan Army Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Wayne State University Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Barnes Jewish Hospital Emergency Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Emergency Medicine
Advocate Christ Medical Center Emergency Medicine
John H. Stroger Hospital of Cook County Emergency Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Emergency Medicine
John H. Stroger Hospital of Cook County Emergency Medicine
Advocate Christ Medical Center Emergency Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Emergency Medicine
Duke University Medical Center Family Medicine
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University Family Medicine
Loyola University Medical Center Family Medicine
St. Louis University School of Medicine Family Medicine
Madigan Army Medical Center Family Medicine
River Methodist Hosptial Ohio Health Family Medicine
Contra Costa Regional Medical Center Family Medicine
West Suburban Medical Center Family Medicine
St. Luke's Medical Center Family Medicine
Resurrection Medical Center Family Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago / Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center Family Medicine
University of California (UCSF) Family Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago / Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center Family Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Family Medicine
University of California Davis Health System Family Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Internal Medicine
Oregon Health and Science University Internal Medicine
Baylor College of Medicine Internal Medicine
Loyola University Medical Center Internal Medicine
Atlanta Medical Center Internal Medicine
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals Internal Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine
Tripler Army Medical Center Internal Medicine
St. John's Mercy Medical Center Internal Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine
University of Colorado School of Medicine Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics Internal Medicine
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital Internal Medicine
Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center Internal Medicine
Loyola University Medical Center Internal Medicine
UCLA Medical Center Internal Medicine
St. Francis Hospital Internal Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine
University of California (UCSF) Internal Medicine
Baylor College of Medicine Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics Internal Medicine
Loyola University Medical Center Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hospitals Internal Medicine
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
St. Joseph Hospital Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine
Barnes Jewish Hospital Internal Medicine
Ball Memorial Hospital Internal Medicine
Boston University Internal Medicine
Ochsner Clinic Foundation Internal Medicine
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine
St. Vincent Hospital Center Internal Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine-Emergency Medicine
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine-Pediatrics
Grand Rapids Medical Education Partners Internal Medicine-Pediatrics
University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Internal Medicine-Pediatrics
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Internal Medicine-Pediatrics
Johns Hopkins Hospital Internal Medicine-Pediatrics
University of Maryland Medical Center Internal Medicine-Pediatrics
University of Chicago Medical Center Internal Medicine-Pediatrics
Yale-New Haven Hospital Internal Medicine-Primary
University of Colorado School of Medicine Internal Medicine-Primary
Virginia Commonwealth University Health System Neurological Surgery
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Neurology
Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center Neurology
New York Presbyterian Hospital-Columbia University Medical Center Neurology
University of Chicago Medical Center Neurology
University of Michigan Hospitals Neurology
St. Francis Hospital Obstetrics and Gynecology
UCLA Medical Center Obstetrics and Gynecology
University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Obstetrics and Gynecology
St. Joseph Hospital Obstetrics and Gynecology
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University Obstetrics and Gynecology
Bayfront Medical Center Obstetrics and Gynecology
University of Texas Health Science Center Obstetrics and Gynecology
Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center Obstetrics and Gynecology
University of Texas Southwestern Medical School Obstetrics and Gynecology
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Obstetrics and Gynecology
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center Obstetrics and Gynecology
University of Pittsburgh Medical Center Obstetrics and Gynecology
University of Illinois at Chicago Ophthalmology
University of Chicago Ophthalmology
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Orthopaedic Surgery
Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education Orthopaedic Surgery
University of California Davis Health System Orthopaedic Surgery
Loma Linda University Orthopaedic Surgery
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Orthopaedic Surgery
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Orthopaedic Surgery
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Otolaryngology
Johns Hopkins Hospital Otolaryngology
New York University School of Medicine Pathology-Anatomic and Clinical
University of California (UCSF) Pathology-Anatomic and Clinical
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University Pathology-Anatomic and Clinical
Rush University Medical Center Pediatrics
Cincinnati Childrens Hospital Medical Center Pediatrics
University of California Irvine Medical Center Pediatrics
University of Chicago Medical Center Pediatrics
Atlantic Health System Pediatrics
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University Pediatrics
Cincinnati Childrens Hospital Medical Center Pediatrics
University of Chicago Medical Center Pediatrics
Miami Children's Hospital Pediatrics
University of Chicago Medical Center Pediatrics
Rush University Medical Center Pediatrics
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital Pediatrics
Rush University Medical Center Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University/Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
National Rehabilitation Hospital Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
University of South Alabama Hospitals Psychiatry
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Psychiatry
Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education Psychiatry
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Psychiatry
Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center Psychiatry
University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics Psychiatry
Barnes Jewish Hospital Psychiatry
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Psychiatry / Adult-Child-Research
University of Chicago Medical Center Radiation Oncology
McGaw Medical Center of Northwestern University Radiation Oncology
University of Michigan Hospitals Radiology-Diagnostic
University of Illinois-St. Francis Medical Center Radiology-Diagnostic
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Radiology-Diagnostic
St. Francis Hospital Radiology-Diagnostic
Georgetown University Hospital Radiology-Diagnostic
Southern Illinois University School of Medicine Affilliated Radiology-Diagnostic
Emory University School of Medicine Radiology-Diagnostic
University of Illinois-St. Francis Medical Center Radiology-Diagnostic
Loyola University Medical Center Radiology-Diagnostic
William Beaumont Hospital Radiology-Diagnostic
Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center Radiology-Diagnostic
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Radiology-Diagnostic
St. Luke's Medical Center Radiology-Diagnostic
NCC-Walter Reed Army Medical Center Surgery-General
University of Illinois College of Medicine at Chicago Surgery-General
Naval Medical Center Surgery-General
University of Illinois-St. Francis Medical Center Surgery-General
University of Tennessee School of Medicine Surgery-General
University of Illinois at Chicago Surgery-General
Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education Surgery-Preliminary
Weiss Memorial Hospital Transitional
Methodist University Hospital Transitional
Weiss Memorial Hospital Transitional
St. Joseph Hospital Transitional Year
MacNeal Memorial Hospital Transitional Year
St. Francis Hospital Transitional Year
St. Joseph Hospital Transitional Year
St. Francis Hospital Transitional Year
St. Francis Hospital Transitional Year
Georgetown University Hospital Transitional Year
MacNeal Memorial Hospital Transitional Year
St. Joseph Hospital Transitional Year
Scripps Mercy Hospital Transitional Year
Emory University School of Medicine Transitional Year
Memorial Sloan-Kettering Transitional Year
St. Francis Hospital Transitional Year
St. Francis Hospital Transitional Year
Mayo Clinic Urology

 

[mTOR]

What, exactly, about that is unbelievable? That the types of people who intend, and have the talent, to match in to the most competitive specialties end up concentrated at the most competitive, finest medical schools? As much as we need good family medicine physicians, we also need excellent specialists. Penn, rightfully, makes more of the latter than the former.

lol @ this. While I agree with the gist of this -- that's a rather disingenuously good way of quelling cognitive dissonance about a school's mission, its selection criteria, and whether it aligns with general societal demands.

Perhaps a truer statement might have read: "That the types of people who intend, and have the talent, to match in to the most well-compensated lifestyle specialties end up concentrated at the most competitive, finest medical schools?"

Penn makes no promise to address the primary care shortage, and openly broadcasts the fact their primary goal is to generate physician-scientists and leading academicians (unsurprisingly, since that's what their rep is based on). So I don't have a problem with their match results. However, at the same time, it's not hard to see why it might draw some concern.

 

[Brachiocephalic]

I'm just surprised they got 9 derm and 7 radonc. That's a lot even for a top school

 

[aSagacious]

Could someone post St. George's?

 

[Pons Asinorum]

lol @ this. While I agree with the gist of this -- that's a rather disingenuously good way of quelling cognitive dissonance about a school's mission, its selection criteria, and whether it aligns with general societal demands.

Perhaps a truer statement might have read: "That the types of people who intend, and have the talent, to match in to the most well-compensated lifestyle specialties end up concentrated at the most competitive, finest medical schools?"

Penn makes no promise to address the primary care shortage, and openly broadcasts the fact their primary goal is to generate physician-scientists and leading academicians (unsurprisingly, since that's what their rep is based on). So I don't have a problem with their match results. However, at the same time, it's not hard to see why it might draw some concern.

I can't argue with what you said. Although the "well-compensated lifestyle specialties" bit is a tad biased. "General Society" demands outstanding care in some specialties, as evidenced by their willingness to spend significantly to get their hands on it. That high-achieving students seek out those opportunities would seem to be market clearing at its very best. Free markets = win.

 

[Pons Asinorum]

Could someone post St. George's?

 

[DoctwoB]

I'm just surprised they got 9 derm and 7 radonc. That's a lot even for a top school

It is, but that tells you more about interest then student quality. I've always found the most telling thing to be what the average internal med or peds match is.

In general, I've found that the "average" match for any school is pretty much equivalent to the general ranking or prestige of the school. You can match anywhere from any US MD school, but the differences in lists is pretty telling.

 

[mTOR]

"General Society" demands outstanding care in some specialties, as evidenced by their willingness to spend significantly to get their hands on it. That high-achieving students seek out those opportunities would seem to be market clearing at its very best. Free markets = win.

The bolded premise from which your following propositions rest, is extraordinarily contentious AT BEST. But since I do not want to turn this thread into why the current US physician reimbursement system has more to do with proceduralist political power than "free market" demand, I'll just leave it at that.

 

[Hoody]

It is, but that tells you more about interest then student quality. I've always found the most telling thing to be what the average internal med or peds match is.

Here's Pitt's match list. http://www.medschool.pitt.edu/pdfs/sa/announcements/MATCHRESULTbyspecialty2011.pdf

In general, I've found that the "average" match for any school is pretty much equivalent to the general ranking or prestige of the school. You can match anywhere from any US MD school, but the differences in lists is pretty telling.

So the two that matched into maxface surg, are they straight MD or are they MD/DDS?

Also, I did not know that Peds-Derm or Peds-Anes were residency themselves. I always thought that the specialty would come as a fellow after a general peds residency.

 

[Pons Asinorum]

The bolded premise from which your following propositions rest, is extraordinarily contentious AT BEST. But since I do not want to turn this thread into why the current US physician reimbursement system has more to do with proceduralist political power than "free market" demand, I'll just leave it at that.

Again with the loaded language - "extraordinarily contentious?" The article you posted is a nice opinion piece, written by a general internist. Luckily, when you write those you don't have to disclose conflicts of interest...

On a lighter note, what do we have to do to get some West Coast match lists, as previously requested?!

 

[PSU2k11]

Strong Match List for 2011


Specialty Location
Anesthesiology St Lukes-Roosevelt-NY*
Anesthesiology Case Western/MetroHealth Med Ctr-OH*
Anesthesiology Johns Hopkins Hosp-MD*
Anesthesiology UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway*
Anesthesiology NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY*
Anesthesiology U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics*
Dermatology U Florida COM-Shands Hosp*
Dermatology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Dermatology U Tennessee COM-Memphis*
Dermatology Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN*
Dermatology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Dermatology Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA*
Dermatology Geisinger Health System-PA*
Emergency Medicine Christiana Care-DE*
Emergency Medicine York Hospital-PA*
Emergency Medicine UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Emergency Medicine UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Emergency Medicine U Texas Med Sch-Houston*
Emergency Medicine Case Western/MetroHealth Med Ctr-OH*
Emergency Medicine U Arizona/UPHK GME Consortium*
Emergency Medicine Synergy Med Ed Alliance-MI*
Emergency Medicine Case Western/MetroHealth Med Ctr-OH*
Emergency Medicine York Hospital-PA*
Emergency Medicine Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT*
Family Medicine Arrowhead Reg Med Ctr-CA*
Family Medicine Altoona Family Phys-PA*
Family Medicine UPMC St Margaret-PA*
Family Medicine University of Toronto
Family Medicine Altoona Family Phys-PA*
Family Medicine UPMC St Margaret-PA*
Family Medicine York Hospital-PA*
Family Medicine Montana Family Med-MT*
Family Medicine UPMC St Margaret-PA*
Family Medicine U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor*
Family Medicine UPMC St Margaret-PA*
General Surgery Vanderbilt Univ Med Ctr-TN*
General Surgery B I Deaconess Med Ctr-MA*
General Surgery U Massachusetts Med School*
General Surgery NYU School Of Medicine*
General Surgery Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-AZ*
General Surgery Lehigh Valley Hosp-PA*
General Surgery Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
General Surgery Pitt County Mem Hosp/Brody SOM-NC*
General Surgery Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL*
General Surgery U Arkansas-Little Rock*
General Surgery Baystate Med Ctr-MA*
General Surgery Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
General Surgery U Illinois COM-Chicago*
Internal Medicine Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT*
Internal Medicine Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Internal Medicine U Minnesota Med School*
Internal Medicine Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA*
Internal Medicine University of Vermont
Internal Medicine Indiana Univ Sch Of Med*
Internal Medicine U Massachusetts Med School*
Internal Medicine Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Internal Medicine Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Internal Medicine Prov Portland Med Ctr-OR*
Internal Medicine St John Hospital-MI*
Internal Medicine UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway*
Internal Medicine Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX*
Internal Medicine U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY*
Internal Medicine University of Virginia*
Internal Medicine Mt Sinai Hospital-NY*
Internal Medicine Loyola Univ Med Ctr-IL*
Internal Medicine Hosp of the Univ of PA*
Internal Medicine U Maryland Med Ctr*
Internal Medicine Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Medicine-Pediatrics Baystate Med Ctr-MA*
Medicine-Preliminary Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Medicine-Preliminary Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA*
Neurological Surgery George Washington Univ-DC*
Neurological Surgery Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL*
Neurological Surgery Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Neurology Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA*
Neurology UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway*
Neurology U Maryland Med Ctr*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Tripler Army Medical Center
Obstetrics-Gynecology UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Pennsylvania Hospital*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Abington Mem Hosp-PA*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Case Western/MetroHealth Med Ctr-OH*
Obstetrics-Gynecology U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Reading Hospital Med Ctr-PA*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-IL*
Obstetrics-Gynecology U North Carolina Hospitals*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Brigham & Womens Hosp-MA*
Obstetrics-Gynecology Lehigh Valley Hosp-PA*
Obstetrics-Gynecology St Barnabas Med Ctr-NJ*
Ophthalmology Duke University
Ophthalmology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA
Orthopaedic Surgery UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Orthopaedic Surgery Carolinas Med Ctr-NC*
Orthopaedic Surgery Massachusetts Gen Hosp*
Orthopaedic Surgery Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Orthopaedic Surgery Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Orthopaedic Surgery U North Carolina Hospitals*
Otolaryngology UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Otolaryngology U Illinois COM-Chicago*
Otolaryngology Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA*
Otolaryngology Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH*
Otolaryngology Case Western/Univ Hosps Case Med Ctr-OH*
Otolaryngology/Research Barnes-Jewish Hosp-MO*
Pathology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Pediatrics Childrens Hosp of Michigan*
Pediatrics Univ of Chicago Med Ctr-IL*
Pediatrics Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT*
Pediatrics UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Pediatrics Johns Hopkins Hosp-MD*
Pediatrics U Tennessee COM-Memphis*
Pediatrics UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Pediatrics U Utah Affil Hospitals*
Pediatrics Rhode Island Hosp/Brown U*
Pediatrics Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Pediatrics NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY*
Pediatrics Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Pediatrics Rhode Island Hosp/Brown U*
Pediatrics Case Western/Univ Hosps Case Med Ctr-OH*
Pediatrics Jefferson Med Coll/duPont Childrens-PA*
Pediatrics UCLA Medical Center-CA*
Pediatrics Carolinas Med Ctr-NC*
Pediatrics NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY*
Pediatrics Childrens National Med Ctr-DC*
Pediatrics Medical College of Georgia
Pediatrics U South Florida COM-Tampa*
Pediatrics Mt Sinai Hospital-NY*
Pediatrics U South Florida COM-Tampa*
Phys Medicine & Rehab Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA*
Plastic Surgery (Integrated) Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Plastic Surgery (Integrated) Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Psychiatry U Maryland Med Ctr*
Psychiatry Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Psychiatry Long Island Jewish Med Ctr-NY*
Psychiatry Portsmouth Naval Medical Center
Psychiatry UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Psychiatry Hosp of the Univ of PA*
Radiation Oncology UC Davis Med Ctr-CA*
Radiology-Diagnostic UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Radiology-Diagnostic Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN*
Radiology-Diagnostic Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Radiology-Diagnostic Stanford Univ Progs-CA*
Radiology-Diagnostic Allegheny Gen Hosp-PA*
Radiology-Diagnostic Allegheny Gen Hosp-PA*
Surgery- Preliminary Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Surgery- Preliminary Orlando Health-FL
Urology Univ. of Arkansas College of Med
Urology UMDNJ/New Jersey Medical School
Urology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA

 

[90minIPA]

Strong Match List for 2011
Dermatology U Florida COM-Shands Hosp*
Dermatology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Dermatology U Tennessee COM-Memphis*
Dermatology Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN*
Dermatology Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Dermatology Boston Univ Med Ctr-MA*
Dermatology Geisinger Health System-PA*
Orthopaedic Surgery UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Orthopaedic Surgery Carolinas Med Ctr-NC*
Orthopaedic Surgery Massachusetts Gen Hosp*
Orthopaedic Surgery Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Orthopaedic Surgery Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA*
Orthopaedic Surgery U North Carolina Hospitals*
Otolaryngology UPMC Medical Education-PA*
Otolaryngology U Illinois COM-Chicago*
Otolaryngology Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA*
Otolaryngology Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH*
Otolaryngology Case Western/Univ Hosps Case Med Ctr-OH*
Otolaryngology/Research Barnes-Jewish Hosp-MO*

Very strong placement into competitive specialties from PSU... More proof that an "unranked" school can absolutely deliver into some of the most competitive residencies in the country.

 

[cgk]

not too surprising Penn is has a good but not great Family Med program (it's one of the very few places where we at Jeff beat them )... but the Penn students I met on the interview trail weren't kidding when they said they almost had as many people doing Rads as IM. Gotta say I'm impressed.

/I'm still slowly putting together a Jefferson list... slowly. Why is our class so huge?

Really appreciate your efforts in compiling the list. Eager to see it!

 

[fahimaz7]

Here's Georgia Health Science University (IE Medical College of Georgia) State school ftw.​

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[MegaProjectile]

Lots of derm this year.

 

[DoctwoB]

Lots of derm this year.

Because global warming = more sunlight = more skin cancer?

 

[mTOR]

I blame the illuminati

 

[MegaProjectile]

Because global warming = more sunlight = more skin cancer?

Lol. Must be or may be we med students finally discovered the secret to eternal happiness? I digress....

 

[Geekchick921]

They gave this to us on a print-out yesterday at Second Look. IIRC, they said 98% of their students matched and just about everyone matched into one of their top 3 choices.

I had to type it. I hope I didn't miss anything.

ANESTHESIOLOGY
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-MN
Stony Brook Teach Hosps-NY
U Washington Affil Hosps

CHILD NEUROLOGY
Baylor Coll Med-Houston-TX

DERMATOLOGY
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-OH
UMNDJ-R W Johnson-Camden

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Christiana Care-DE
Darnall Army Med Ctr-TX
Drexel University COM/Hahnemann Univ Hosp-PA
Drexel University COM/Hahnemann Univ Hosp-PA
Duke Univ Med Ctr-NC
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY
Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA
Kern Medical Center-CA
Lehigh Valley Hosp-PA
LSU SOM-New Orleans-LA
Maine Medical Center
NY Methodist Hospital-NY
St. Lukes-Bethlehem, PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Texas A&M-Scott & White
U Maryland Med Ctr
U Southern California
UC Davis Med Ctr-CA
UCLA Medical Center-CA
West Virginia University-SOM

FAMILY MEDICINE
U Colorado SOM-Denver
U Minnesota Med School
Altoona Family Phys-PA
Crozer-Chester Med Ctr-PA
Crozer-Chester Med Ctr-PA
Glendale Adventist Med Ctr-CA
Group Health Coop-WA
Hunterdon Medical Ctr-NJ
Lancaster Gen Hosp-PA
Lancaster Gen Hosp-PA
Maine-Dartmouth Family Med
McLennan County Fam Med-TX
Montana Family Med-MT
U Florida SOM-Shands Hosp
U Florida SOM-Shands Hosp
UVM/Fletcher Allen-VT
York Hospital-PA

GENERAL SURGERY
North Shore-LIJ Health Sys-NY
NYU School of Medicine
U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY

INT MED/LEARN & EARN (I have no idea what this is)
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY

INTERNAL MEDICINE
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
Christiana Care-DE
Drexel Univ COM/Hahnemann Univ Hosp
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY
Harbor-UCLA Med Ctr-CA
Harbor-UCLA Med Ctr-CA
Hosp of the Univ of PA
Huntingdon Memorial Hosp-CA
Indiana Univ Sch of Med
Jackson Memorial Hosp-FL
Jackson Memorial Hosp-FL
Medical University of SC
Mt. Sinai Hospital-NY
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY
NYU School of Medicine
Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH
Rhode Island Hosp/Brown U
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA
Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA
U Colorado SOM-Denver
U Colorado SOM-Denver
U Maryland Med Ctr
U Maryland Med Ctr
U Maryland Med Ctr
U Maryland Med Ctr
U New Mexico SOM
U North Carolina Hospitals
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark
University of Virginia
University of Virginia
University of Virginia
Wake Forest Baptist Med Ctr-NC

INTERNAL MEDICINE/UIH
U Illinois COM-Chicago
U Illinois COM-Chicago

MEDICINE/EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Christiana Care-DE

MEDICINE/PEDIATRICS
Geisinger Health System-PA
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT

MEDICINE-PRELIMINARY
Temple Univ Hosp-PA----------Advanced Position-Emory Univ SOM-GA-Anesthesiology
Temple Univ Hosp-PA----------Advanced Position-U Maryland Med Ctr-Anesthesiology
Jersey Shore Univ Med Ctr-NJ----------Advanced Position-UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark-Anesthesiology
Drexel Univ COM/Hahnemann Univ Hosp-PA ----------Advanced Position- Thomas Jefferson Univ-PA-Neurology
UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA----------Advanced Position-UC San Diego Med Ctr-CA-Neurology
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT----------Advanced Position-Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT-Neurology
Mercy Catholic Medical Center----------Advanced Position-Temple Univ Hosp-PA-Ophthalmology
Temple Univ Hosp-PA----------Advanced Position-Temple Univ Hosp-PA-Phys Medicine & Rehab
UMDNJ-RW Johnson-Camden----------Advanced Position-Temple Univ-PA-Phys Medicine & Rehab
Temple Univ Hosp-PA----------Advanced Position-Baystate Med Ctr-MA-Radiology-Diagnostic
Abington Mem Hosp-PA----------Advanced Position-Santa Barbara Cottage Hosp-CA-Radiology-Diagnostic
Mt. Sinai SOM-Elmhurst-NY----------Advanced Position-Temple Univ Hosp-PA-Radiology-Diagnostic
UMDNJ-RW Johnson-Camden----------Advanced Position-Temple Univ Hosp-PA-Radiology-Diagnostic

MEDICINE-PRIMARY
Wake Forest Baptist Med Ctr-NC

MED-PRELIM/NEUROLOGY
U Maryland Med Ctr---------- Advanced Position-U Maryland Med Ctr-Neurology

NEUROLOGICAL SURGERY
Case Western/University Hospitals of Case Med Ctr-OH
Cedars-Sinai Med Ctr-CA
Temple Univ Hosp-PA

OB/GYN
Abington Mem Hosp-PA
Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA
Kaiser-Perm-Santa Clara-CA
LSU SOM-New Orleans-LA
NY Methodist Hospital-NY
Ohio State Univ Med Ctr-OH
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
UMDNJ-New Jersey Med-Newark
UMDNJ-R W Johnson-Piscataway
Washington Hospital Ctr-DC
Washington Hospital Ctr-DC
Winthrop-Univ Hosp-NY

ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY
Albert Einstein Med Ctr-PA
St. Lukes-Roosevelt- NY
Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Wake Forest Baptist Med Ctr-NC

PATHOLOGY
UPMC Medical Education-PA

PEDIATRICS
Childrens Hospital-Los Angeles-CA
Childrens Hospital-Oakland-CA
Duke University Med Ctr-NC
Einstein/Jacobi Med Ctr-NY
Einstein/Montefiore Med Ctr-NY
Jackson Memorial Hospital-FL
Jackson Memorial Hospital-FL
Jefferson Med Coll/duPont Childrens-PA
NMC Portsmouth-VA
Northwestern McGaw/CMH-IL
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY
St. Christophers Hosp-PA
St. Christophers Hosp-PA
St. Christophers Hosp-PA
U Massachusetts Med School
UCLA Medical Center-CA
UVM/Fletcher Allen-VT
Yale-New Haven Hosp-CT

PEDIATRICS-PRELIMINARY
Cincinnati Childrens Hosp MC-OH----------Advanced Position-U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor-Radiology-Diagnostic

PSYCHIATRY
National Capital Consortium
Albert Einstein Med Ctr-PA
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY
Harbor-UCLA Med Ctr-CA
Mt. Sinai Hospital-NY
U Colorado SOM-Denver
U Maryland Med Ctr

RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC
St. Lukes Med Ctr-WI
St. Vincent Hosp-Worchester, MA
UCLA Medical Center-CA

SURGERY-PRELIMINARY
Temple Univ Hosp-PA----------Advanced Position-Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania-Phys Medicine & Rehab
Maricopia Med Ctr-AZ----------Advanced Position-UC Irvine Med Ctr-CA-Phys Medicine & Rehab
Stanford Univ Progs-CA----------Advanced Position-U Utah Affil Hospitals-Radiation Oncology
SURG-PRELIM/PLASTIC SURGERY
Mt. Sinai Hospital-NY----------Advanced Position-Mt. Sinai Hospital-NY-Plastic Surgery

TRANSITIONAL
Arrowhead Reg Med Ctr-CA----------Advanced Position-George Washington Univ-DC-Radiology-Diagnostic
Crozer-Chester Med Ctr-PA----------Advanced Position-Hershey Med Ctr/Penn State-PA-Dermatology
Crozer-Chester Med Ctr-PA----------Advanced Position-NYU School of Medicine-Radiation Oncology
Reading Hospital Med Ctr-PA----------Advanced Position-Fox Chase Cancer-PA-Radiation Oncology

 

[Zarika]

INT MED/LEARN & EARN (I have no idea what this is)
Einstein/Beth Israel Med Ctr-NY

I've never heard of it. A quick google makes it sound pretty cool if you wanted to do Internal Med though.

"LEARN AND EARN" WORK STUDY PROGRAM

In addition to our traditional residency training program in internal medicine, Beth Israel Medical Center offers a parallel approach to internal medicine training. This approach is a combination work-study program, which we call our Learn and Earn program. Training begins with the standard straight medicine categorical internship. Following the internship, the two years of a medical residency are distributed over three years, eight months each year. The participant spends four months of each year (after the internship) working as a physician in a Beth Israel Medical Center-affiliated inpatient or outpatient facility. A New York State license is required for this role. Therefore, applicants must be eligible for licensure in New York State after their internship. During training months, the resident is paid at the house officer rate corresponding to his or her total months of training. During working months, the resident is paid at the augmented rate of a full-time house physician, resulting in over $100,000 in incremental income over that provided by the residency. The resident continuously receives house officer benefits throughout the four years, including housing and disability, as well as health and malpractice insurance.

This approach accomplishes several goals for Beth Israel, such as increasing the number of high-quality physicians providing primary care in non-training settings and providing new avenues for recruiting residents. However, the Learn and Earn program also offers advantages to residents. Their quality of life is greatly improved and residents may emerge debt-free from training. The resident matriculating in the Learn and Earn program will be joining a well-established, accredited residency training program in Internal Medicine. Timing and financial rewards are the only real differences in training between this program and Beth Israel's traditional training program in Internal Medicine.

 

[WingedOx]

Really appreciate your efforts in compiling the list. Eager to see it!

dammit, I gave up because it was taking too long... now you've guilted me into finishing. (can't promise it'll be up for a while though).

 

[cgk]

dammit, I gave up because it was taking too long... now you've guilted me into finishing. (can't promise it'll be up for a while though).

Thanks so much! I really would appreciate it, as would so many other pre-meds.

 

[boisestate]

Do any of you have Duke's latest match list? thanks

 

[KUNRD07]

wtf, more derm than family med, more rad-onc than family med, more opthal/rads than family med

I know, it's really sad. :-/

 

[fahimaz7]

I know, it's really sad. :-/

It's not sad at all. If you haven't noticed yet, family medicine is a mixture of under-compensated time, patients that won't do anything to fix their own problems, and enough headaches to make you want to give up medicine all together.

I'm happy for the guys at my school that matched into Derm, Ortho, Optho, Rads, etc.

 

[KUNRD07]

It's not sad at all. If you haven't noticed yet, family medicine is a mixture of under-compensated time, patients that won't do anything to fix their own problems, and enough headaches to make you want to give up medicine all together.

I'm happy for the guys at my school that matched into Derm, Ortho, Optho, Rads, etc.

Exactly! The current state of medicine in the US.

 

[Geekchick921]

I've never heard of it. A quick google makes it sound pretty cool if you wanted to do Internal Med though.

"LEARN AND EARN" WORK STUDY PROGRAM

In addition to our traditional residency training program in internal medicine, Beth Israel Medical Center offers a parallel approach to internal medicine training. This approach is a combination work-study program, which we call our Learn and Earn program. Training begins with the standard straight medicine categorical internship. Following the internship, the two years of a medical residency are distributed over three years, eight months each year. The participant spends four months of each year (after the internship) working as a physician in a Beth Israel Medical Center-affiliated inpatient or outpatient facility. A New York State license is required for this role. Therefore, applicants must be eligible for licensure in New York State after their internship. During training months, the resident is paid at the house officer rate corresponding to his or her total months of training. During working months, the resident is paid at the augmented rate of a full-time house physician, resulting in over $100,000 in incremental income over that provided by the residency. The resident continuously receives house officer benefits throughout the four years, including housing and disability, as well as health and malpractice insurance.

This approach accomplishes several goals for Beth Israel, such as increasing the number of high-quality physicians providing primary care in non-training settings and providing new avenues for recruiting residents. However, the Learn and Earn program also offers advantages to residents. Their quality of life is greatly improved and residents may emerge debt-free from training. The resident matriculating in the Learn and Earn program will be joining a well-established, accredited residency training program in Internal Medicine. Timing and financial rewards are the only real differences in training between this program and Beth Israel's traditional training program in Internal Medicine.

Ah, neat! Thank you for looking into that.

 

[fahimaz7]

Exactly! The current state of medicine in the US.

It's more complicated than simply reimbursement. Medical students (the ones with options) are not stupid, and they realize that they have options that exist past the fields of primary care. In 20 years, will NP's and PA's be the backbone of family medicine? Will MD's, in that field, become even more like managers and less like practitioners, than they already have to do?

The landscape is changing, and MD's are becoming the specialists while NP's are going to become the face of primary care.

Just my feeling on the matter.

Good news though... Morehouse medical school puts 70% into "primary care fields". I bet this is a direct reflection of step one scores, and not their desire to occupy all of the family medicine clinics in Georgia.

 

[WingedOx]

ok, as promised... here's Jefferson's ridiculously huge list. We did a lot better than last year which had a lot of people stuck in prelim surg spots after not getting into competitive sub-specialties. Also, 100% in ER, which is impressive given how hard it was to get into this year (only 3 scramble spots in the entire mainland US). I left prelims and TYs off the list unless they were a person's only match.

(Residency Deferred)
(Residency Pending)
Anest Duke
Anest GWU
Anest Hopkins
Anest Maine Medical Center
anest Mt. Sinai
Anest Penn
Anest Pitt
Anest Rochester/Strong Memorial
Anest Stanford
Anest Thomas Jefferson U
Anest Thomas Jefferson U
Anest Thomas Jefferson U
Anest Thomas Jefferson U
Anest U Virginia
Anest U Washington
Anest UC Irvine
Derm Case - University
Derm Drexel/Hahnemann
Derm Miami Jackson
Derm SUNY HSC Brooklyn
Derm Thomas Jefferson U
ERMD Boston U
ERMD Christiana Care - DE
ERMD Christiana Care - DE
ERMD Christiana Care - DE
ERMD Cook County-Stroger - IL
ERMD Drexel/Hahnemann
ERMD Drexel/Hahnemann
ERMD Duke
ERMD Florida - Jacksonville
ERMD Geisinger Health - PA
ERMD Madigan Army Medical Center - WA
ERMD Maimonides - NY
ERMD Maine Medical Center
ERMD NYU
ERMD St. John's Hosptial - MI
ERMD Thomas Jefferson U
ERMD Thomas Jefferson U
ERMD U Florida
ERMD U Maryland
ERMD U Virginia
ERMD UC Davis
ERMD UC Irvine
ERMD UCLA - Harbor
ERMD UMDNJ - RWJ - Camden
Family Abington Memorial - PA
Family Bryn Mawr - PA
Family Contra Costa - CA
Family Crozer-Chester - PA
Family Crozer-Chester - PA
Family Group Health Cooperative - WA
Family Lancaster General - PA
Family Latrobe Excela Health - PA
Family Penn
Family St. Luke's Bethlehem - PA
Family Swedish Medical Center - WA
Family Swedish Medical Center - WA
Family Thomas Jefferson U
Family Thomas Jefferson U
Family Thomas Jefferson U
Family Thomas Jefferson U
Family Thomas Jefferson U
Family U Virginia
Family York Hosptial - PA
Intmed Albert Einstein - PA
Intmed California Pacific
Intmed Carolinas Medical Center - NC
Intmed Cedars Sinai - CA
Intmed Christiana Care - DE
Intmed Einstein/Beth Israel
Intmed Einstein/Montefiore
Intmed Hopkins
Intmed Hopkins Bayview
Intmed Kaiser Permanente - Santa Clara
Intmed Maine Medical Center
Intmed Mass General
Intmed Mayo - AZ
Intmed Mt. Sinai
Intmed Mt. Sinai
Intmed Penn
Intmed Penn
Intmed Penn
Intmed Penn
Intmed Penn State Hershey
Intmed Pitt
Intmed Queen's University - Ontario
Intmed Rush
Intmed Rush
Intmed Scripps Mercy - San Diego
Intmed St. Luke's Roosevelt - NY
Intmed Temple
Intmed Temple
Intmed Temple
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
intmed thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Thomas Jefferson U
Intmed Tufts
Intmed Tufts
Intmed Tufts
Intmed U Chicago
Intmed U Maryland
Intmed U Maryland
Intmed U Toronto
Intmed U Washington
Intmed UC Davis
Intmed UC Davis
Intmed UCLA - Harbor
Intmed UMDNJ - RWJ
Intmed Yale
Intmed York Hosptial - PA
Intmed York Hosptial - PA
Med/ERMD SUNY HSC Brooklyn
MedPeds Christiana Care - DE
MedPeds U Illinois Chicago
MedPre Thomas Jefferson U
MedPre U Maryland
MedPrim Penn
Neurol B.I. Deaconess - MA
Neurol Georgetown
Neurol Penn
Neurol Yale
NeuSurg Baylor
NeuSurg UCLA
NeuSurg Virginia Commonwealth
Obgy Abington Memorial - PA
Obgy GWU
Obgy Kaiser-Permanente - Oakland - CA
Obgy NYU
Obgy NYU
obgy thomas Jefferson U
Obgy U Chicago
Obgy U Colorado
Obgy Yale
Ophth Boston U
Ophth Brown
Ophth Florida - Jacksonville
Ophth Nassau University
Ophth NYU
Ophth Pitt
Ophth U Oklahoma
Ophth Wills Eye
Ophth Wills Eye
OralMax Thomas Jefferson U
Ortho Allegheny General - PA
Ortho Einstein/Montefiore
ortho Loyola Chicago
Ortho Miami Jackson
Ortho Rush
Ortho Seton Hall - NJ
Ortho St. Luke's Roosevelt - NY
Ortho SUNY Upstate
Ortho Temple
Ortho Thomas Jefferson U
Ortho Thomas Jefferson U
Ortho Thomas Jefferson U
Ortho U Utah
Ortho UConn
Otol Mt. Sinai
Otol Southern Illinois
Otol SUNY HSC Brooklyn
Path Cornell - Presbyterian
Path Duke
Path Einstein/Montefiore
Path Thomas Jefferson U
Path U Michigan
Peds Baylor
Peds Children's Hospital - Boston
Peds Children's National - DC
Peds Children's National - DC
Peds Cornell - Presbyterian
Peds Grand Rapids Medical Education - MI
Peds Jefferson/DuPont
Peds Jefferson/DuPont
Peds Jefferson/DuPont
Peds Jefferson/DuPont
Peds Jefferson/DuPont
Peds Jefferson/DuPont
Peds Jefferson/DuPont
Peds Kaiser Permanente - Los Angeles
Peds Miami Jackson
Peds Mt. Sinai
Peds NYU
Peds St. Christopher's - PA
Peds St. Christopher's - PA
Peds Westchester Medical Center - NY
Peds-PM&R Jefferson/DuPont
Peds-Primcare Einstein/Montefiore
Peds-Primcare UMDNJ - RWJ
PedsNeuro Hopkins
PhysM&R CNew York Presby - Columbia & Cornell
PhysM&R Harvard/Spauding
PhysM&R Stanford
Psych Einstein/Montefiore
Psych GWU
Psych Harvard Longwood
Psych Hopkins
Psych Long Island Jewish
Psych Maryland/Shepp Pratt
Psych Miami Jackson
Psych NYU
Psych Thomas Jefferson U
Psych Thomas Jefferson U
Psych U Illinois Chicago
Psych U Virginia
Psych UCLA Semel
Psych UCLA Semel
Rad-Dx Albert Einstein - PA
Rad-Dx Albert Einstein - PA
Rad-Dx Drexel/Hahnemann
Rad-Dx Staten Island University Hospital
Rad-Dx Thomas Jefferson U
Rad-Dx Thomas Jefferson U
research
Research
Surg (Military Match... the list is wrong for this guy)
Surg Albert Einstein - PA
Surg Christiana Care - DE
Surg Georgetown
Surg Mass General
Surg Santa Barbara Cottage Hospital - CA
Surg St. Barnabas Medical Center - NJ
Surg Stony Brook Teaching Hospital - NY
Surg Thomas Jefferson U
Surg U Maryland
Surg UMDNJ - RWJ
Surg UMDNJ - RWJ
Surg UT San Antonio
Surg Virginia Mason - WA
Surg Walter Reed Army Med Ctr.- DC
Surg B.I. Deaconess - MA
Surg Christiana Care - DE
Surg Cincy U
Surg Thomas Jefferson U
Surg Thomas Jefferson U
SurgPre Penn State Hershey
SurgPre UCSF East Bay
SurgVasc U Buffalo
Urol Pitt
Urol U Wisconsin
Urol UT Southwestern

 

[CattleBruiser]

not too surprising Penn is has a good but not great Family Med program (it's one of the very few places where we at Jeff beat them )... but the Penn students I met on the interview trail weren't kidding when they said they almost had as many people doing Rads as IM. Gotta say I'm impressed.

/I'm still slowly putting together a Jefferson list... slowly. Why is our class so huge?

Where did you find a family med program ranking? I would like to know where you got your data, thanks in advance.

also...what relevance do match lists have for pre-allo peeps/incoming M1s? Just wondering because I'm not sure what I'm supposed to conclude from looking at this data.

 

[WingedOx]

Where did you find a family med program ranking? I would like to know where you got your data, thanks in advance.

also...what relevance do match lists have for pre-allo peeps/incoming M1s? Just wondering because I'm not sure what I'm supposed to conclude from looking at this data.

There is of course the USNEWS hospital ranking, which should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. For the most part the "better" program is the result of subjective opinions.

As for what you should take from this? "Work hard and you could be at any of these places" I guess. After the stress of the past week posting and reading these lists are more for fun than anything.

 

[CattleBruiser]

There is of course the USNEWS hospital ranking, which should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. For the most part the "better" program is the result of subjective opinions.

As for what you should take from this? "Work hard and you could be at any of these places" I guess. After the stress of the past week posting and reading these lists are more for fun than anything.

yeah I guess it's kind of like the same satisfaction of watching game shows like Wheel of Fortune.

 

[Pons Asinorum]

It's more complicated than simply reimbursement. Medical students (the ones with options) are not stupid, and they realize that they have options that exist past the fields of primary care. In 20 years, will NP's and PA's be the backbone of family medicine? Will MD's, in that field, become even more like managers and less like practitioners, than they already have to do?

The landscape is changing, and MD's are becoming the specialists while NP's are going to become the face of primary care.

Just my feeling on the matter.

It's not all the time that we agree, but I'm with you on this. When there is scarcity, such as AMG's in the residency market, they tend to get allocated to their most valuable uses, i.e. specialty medicine. Why would someone with better options punch beneath their weight, when there are other individuals (IMG/FMG/Advanced Practice Nurse/PA) who are more than willing to do the exact same work. I don't want to start a big debate about this, as there are other threads for that, but that concept shouldn't be surprising to anyone. Incentives matter.

 

[OH SYNAPSE]

Very strong placement into competitive specialties from PSU... More proof that an "unranked" school can absolutely deliver into some of the most competitive residencies in the country.

Here's some more proof that you can go where you want if even if you're at an 'unranked' school in the middle of flyover country, aka Omaha, NE! For some context, we were 4/4 ophtho, 9/10 ortho, 1/1 urology, 1/1 derm, 14/13 radar (1 ortho had radar ranked 3rd), 1/1 rad onc, 2/2 ENT, 7/7 EM, 10/9 anesthesia (1 gen surg went gas) and all the rest got the specialty wanted with almost all getting where they wanted. There is a midwest flavor given our location/students, but we also put people in all four corners of the country. It was a great, great day on Thursday! Also of note, we had all 4 couples successfully match together. For those curious, they were Med/Psych x 2 (LSU, Vandy), Gen Surg/Gen Surg (Creighton), and ENT/Radiology (Kansas).

Anyways, here's the list:

Creighton 2011 Match List - 119 Students

Anesthesiology - 10
Oregon Health & Science Univ
Mayo School of Grad Med Education - Rochester, MN
Mayo School of Grad Med Education - Scottsdale, AZ
Medical College of Wisconsin
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr
Univ of Chicago Med Ctr
U Minnesota Med School
U Nebraska Medical Center
Virginia Mason Med Ctr - Seattle, WA
Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics

Dermatology
Medical College of Wisconsin

Emergency Med - 7
Barnes-Jewish Hosp/WashU - St. Louis, MO
Barnes-Jewish Hosp/WashU - St. Louis, MO
Hennepin Co Med Ctr - Minneapolis, MN
Oregon Health & Science Univ
Regions Hosp/HealthPartners - St. Paul, MN
U Nebraska Medical Center
U New Mexico SOM

Family Medicine - 6
Central WA Family Med - Yakima, WA
Clarkson Regional Health Services - Omaha, NE
Research Medical Center - Kansas City, MO
Research Medical Center - Kansas City, MO
U Minnesota Med School - St. Paul, MN
White Mem Med Ctr - Los Angelas, CA

General Surgery
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Swedish Medical Center - Seattle, WA
Tripler Army Medical Center - Honolulu, HI

Internal Medicine - 24
CA Pacific Med Center - San Francisco, CA
Cleveland Clinic Fdn
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Duke Univ Med Ctr
Hennepin Co Med Ctr - Minneapolis, MN
Indiana Univ SOM
Indiana Univ SOM
LSU SOM-New Orleans
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ - Rochester, MN
Summa Health/NEOUCOM - Akron, OH
Thomas Jefferson Univ
UC Irvine Med Ctr
U Minnesota Med School
U Minnesota Med School
UPMC McKeesport
U Utah Affil Hospitals
U Utah Affil Hospitals
U Utah Affil Hospitals
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
Vanderbilt Univ Med Ctr

Internal Medicine/Emergency Medicine
Christiana Care - Wilmington, DE

Internal Medicine/Pediatrics
St Louis Univ SOM

Obstetrics/Gynecology - 8
Barnes-Jewish Hosp/WashU - St. Louis, MO
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Maricopa Med Ctr - Phoenix, AZ
Maricopa Med Ctr - Phoenix, AZ
St Johns Mercy Med Ctr - St. Louis, MO
U Florida COM-Jacksonville
U Kentucky Med Ctr - Lexington, KY
U Texas Med Branch-Galveston

Ophthalmology - 4
Cook County - Chicago, IL
Eastern Virginia MS - Norfolk, VA
U Nebraska Medical Center
U Utah Affil Hospitals - Salt Lake City, UT

Orthopaedic Surgery - 9
Creighton-Nebraska Hlth Fnd - Omaha, NE
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ - Rochester, MN
Summa Health/NEOUCOM - Akron, OH
SUNY Upstate Med University
UC San Diego Med Ctr
U Kansas SOM-Wichita
U Minnesota Med School
William Beaumont Army Medical Center - El Paso, TX
William Beaumont Hosp - Royal Oak, MI

Otolaryngology
U Kansas SOM-Kansas City
U Tennessee COM-Memphis

Pathology
Oregon Health & Science Univ
San Antonio Military Medical Center - Lackland AFB
U North Carolina Hospitals
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics

Pediatrics - 12
Creighton-Nebraska Hlth Fnd
Childrens Hospital-Boston
Childrens Hospital-Oakland
Childrens Mercy Hosp - Kansas City, MO
Childrens Mercy Hosp - Kansas City, MO
Indiana Univ Sch Of Med
Kaiser Permanente-Oakland
U Arizona Affil Hospitals
UC Davis Med Ctr
U Minnesota Med School
U Utah Affil Hospitals
Walter Reed Army Medical Center - Washington DC

Psychiatry - 9
Harbor-UCLA Med Ctr
LSU SOM-New Orleans
Tripler Army Medical Center
U Colorado SOM-Denver
Univ of Illinois at Chicago
U Iowa Hosps and Clinics
U Iowa Hosps and Clinics
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor
Vanderbilt Univ Med Ctr

Radiation Oncology
U Kansas SOM - Kansas City

Radiology-Diagnostic - 14
Creighton Univ Affil Hosps
Loyola Univ Med Ctr - Chicago, IL
Madigan Army Medical Center - Tacoma, WA
Maine Medical Center - Portland, ME
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ - Rochester, MN
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
Med Coll Wisconsin Affil Hosps
San Antonio Military Medical Center
U Kansas SOM-Kansas City
U Kansas SOM-Kansas City
Univ of Missouri-KC Programs
U Nebraska Affil Hosps
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
U Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics

Urology
U Maryland Hospital

 

[muncher]

We're a small school ~110 students

 

[hellothere57]

MAYO MEDICAL SCHOOL

Medicine/Preliminary (3)

Albert Einstein College of Medicine
Jacobi Medical Center
Bronx, NY

Rhode Island Hospital
Providence, RI

Boston University Medical Center
Boston, MA

Dermatology (3)

UCLA Medical Center
Los Angeles, CA
STAR Program

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Anesthesiology (7)

Oregon Health and Science University
Portland, OR

Johns Hopkins Hospital
Baltimore, MD

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

McGaw Medical Center of
Northwestern University
Chicago, IL

Mount Sinai Hospital
New York, NY

Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Nashville, TN

Transitional (6)

Hennepin County Medical Center
Minneapolis, MN

Legacy Emanuel Hospital and Health Center
Portland, OR

Gundersen Lutheran Medical Foundation
La Crosse, WI

Gundersen Lutheran Medical Foundation
La Crosse, WI

Oakwood Hospital
Dearborn, MI

Santa Clara Valley Medical Center
San Jose, CA

Radiology-Diagnostic (5)

Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center
Winston-Salem, NC

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

University of California San Francisco
San Francisco, CA

University of Illinois College of Medicine
Chicago, IL

Internal Medicine (9)

Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC

Brigham & Women's Hospital
Boston, MA

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN
CI Research

Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN
CI Research

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

New York Presbyterian Hospital-Weill Cornell Medical Center
New York, NY

Obstetrics-Gynecology (2)

University of California San Francisco
San Francisco, CA

Johns Hopkins Hospital
Baltimore, MD

Emergency Medicine (4)

Johns Hopkins Hospital
Baltimore, MD

Palmetto Health/University of South Carolina School of Medicine
Columbia, SC

Brigham & Women's Hospital
Boston, MA

Health Partners Institute for Medical Education/Regions Hospital
St. Paul, MN

Medicine-Dermatology (1)

University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
Madison, WI

Radiation-Oncology (1)

Washington University/Barnes Jewish Hospital
St. Louis, MO

Pediatrics (1)

University of Michigan Hospitals
Ann Arbor, MI

Psychiatry (1)

Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA

General Surgery (2)

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Pathology (3)

Massachusetts General Hospital
Boston, MA

University of Alabama Birmingham
Birmingham, AL

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Orthopaedic Surgery (1)

Massachusetts General Hospital/Harvard Combined
Boston, MA

Family Medicine (2)

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

St. Mary's Hospital
The Regional Medical Center
Grand Junction, CO

Oral & Maxillofacial Surgery (4)

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education
Rochester, MN

 

[Green Penguin]

Anyone have Harvard / Stanford / Duke 2011 match lists?

 

[cgk]

Anyone have the Match List for 2011? Their Website only lists thru 2010. Thanks!

 

[vicinihil]

So from the way it looks, it DOES matter what school you go to.

I feel like the name of the school gets downplayed a lot when deciding where to go. People talk about "price-tag" and "happiness" and location. Charting Outcomes or one of those NRMP studies show that being a "top 40" NIH school barely makes a difference and has less impact than grades or Step 1. However, looking at these match lists it seems like it's not so. Schools that are higher quality match better. USMLE avg are not that different across the board. Neither are 3rd year grades since an Honors is an Honors and purely subjective unless schools like Penn give 99% honors.

Should there be a higher emphasis on quality of school and not just all the other factors?

 

[fahimaz7]

So from the way it looks, it DOES matter what school you go to.

I feel like the name of the school gets downplayed a lot when deciding where to go. People talk about "price-tag" and "happiness" and location. Charting Outcomes or one of those NRMP studies show that being a "top 40" NIH school barely makes a difference and has less impact than grades or Step 1. However, looking at these match lists it seems like it's not so. Schools that are higher quality match better. USMLE avg are not that different across the board. Neither are 3rd year grades since an Honors is an Honors and purely subjective unless schools like Penn give 99% honors.

Should there be a higher emphasis on quality of school and not just all the other factors?

What are you talking about?

2 Neurosurgery
4 Urology
7 Rads
4 ENT
11 Ortho
10 Ophthal
8 Derm
etc.

Not bad for a small state school with a ranking of 71st.

 

[AlexMorph]

So from the way it looks, it DOES matter what school you go to.

I feel like the name of the school gets downplayed a lot when deciding where to go. People talk about "price-tag" and "happiness" and location. Charting Outcomes or one of those NRMP studies show that being a "top 40" NIH school barely makes a difference and has less impact than grades or Step 1. However, looking at these match lists it seems like it's not so. Schools that are higher quality match better. USMLE avg are not that different across the board. Neither are 3rd year grades since an Honors is an Honors and purely subjective unless schools like Penn give 99% honors.

Should there be a higher emphasis on quality of school and not just all the other factors?

Umm, from what I hear, Step 1 averages are most definitely different. I doubt Penn has an average in the 220s. Your average podunk med. school probably has an average in the 210s or 220s. Med. school really has nothing to do with it. Penn attracts the academically talented students to begin with, and they gain those competitive residencies with their skills. Even the so-called "worst med. school" will have people matching in to top specialties. It's an individual game.

 

[DoctwoB]

What are you talking about?

2 Neurosurgery
4 Urology
7 Rads
4 ENT
11 Ortho
10 Ophthal
8 Derm
etc.

Not bad for a small state school with a ranking of 71st.

# matched does not equal quality of match. All that tells me is that your school has a large number of people interested in competitive specialties, and that your school (like most US MD schools) is good enough that smart, motivated people can get into the specialty of their choice.

The difference is that while students at the top of their class at a mid-tier school may match MGH/Hopkins/UCSF (yes I know that they aren't top for all specialties), at top schools middle/bottom of the pack students may still match into the top programs.

You could argue that this is because only the best get into the top med schools, but I would disagree with that. People that get into Harvard/Hopkins/UCSF et al. tend to be hardworking, impressive people, but being impressive doesn't necessarily translate into med school smarts (namely the ability to memorize massive quantities of information). Thus the fact that almost everyone at those schools matches into ridiculously awesome residency programs means that the school does play a pretty big role.

 

[LuckyST]

Where you go to school definitely makes a huge difference in where you match, and how easy it is for you to match in a competitive specialty. Most residency program directors (at my medical school included) will tell you that the 3 factors that they look at most are: medical school attended, clerkship grades/AOA status, and step 1 score. Different programs and specialties might put a different weight on each of these, but where you go to school makes a big difference.

 

[Green Penguin]

So from the way it looks, it DOES matter what school you go to.

I feel like the name of the school gets downplayed a lot when deciding where to go. People talk about "price-tag" and "happiness" and location. Charting Outcomes or one of those NRMP studies show that being a "top 40" NIH school barely makes a difference and has less impact than grades or Step 1. However, looking at these match lists it seems like it's not so. Schools that are higher quality match better. USMLE avg are not that different across the board. Neither are 3rd year grades since an Honors is an Honors and purely subjective unless schools like Penn give 99% honors.

Should there be a higher emphasis on quality of school and not just all the other factors?

It's true that "top" med schools generally have more matches into prestigious programs and competitive specialties, but it's hard to separate correlation from causation. The top med schools tend to have higher achieving students, not just in terms of board scores (which I was told averaged ~240 at Penn), but also in terms of the research that those students are likely to pursue / get their names on. I would also speculate that a person gunning for a residency in PRS at Hopkins (or whatever) is going to go to a top medical school (i.e. the same people that chose the most competitive medical schools are generally those that want to go to the most competitive residencies/specialties). So you probably have more of those type of matches from top schools just based on the interests of the student body. So med school prestige almost certainly has some effect, we just can't parse how much of an effect.

 

[fahimaz7]

# matched does not equal quality of match. All that tells me is that your school has a large number of people interested in competitive specialties, and that your school (like most US MD schools) is good enough that smart, motivated people can get into the specialty of their choice.

The difference is that while students at the top of their class at a mid-tier school may match MGH/Hopkins/UCSF (yes I know that they aren't top for all specialties), at top schools middle/bottom of the pack students may still match into the top programs.

You could argue that this is because only the best get into the top med schools, but I would disagree with that. People that get into Harvard/Hopkins/UCSF et al. tend to be hardworking, impressive people, but being impressive doesn't necessarily translate into med school smarts (namely the ability to memorize massive quantities of information). Thus the fact that almost everyone at those schools matches into ridiculously awesome residency programs means that the school does play a pretty big role.

I guess Radiology at Brigham and Mayo, Neurosurgery at Boston children's, and Anesthesia at Hopkins is under performing.

Either way, people that are at those ivy league programs are smart, motivated, and hard working medical students. They work hard, get good board scores, and go where they want for residency. That's not too hard to understand....

 

[CarlATHF]

UF's match list:

http://osa.med.ufl.edu/files/2010/06/2011-Match-List-NO-NAMES1.pdf

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