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where did you match?
***2011 OMFS MATCH Results***
- Thread starter Michael Scarn
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He matched out west.
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Wow, what is going on with match. So many good candidates unmatched, so many programs unmatched...
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Michael's dream also came true for me too, it started at 4am. Depressing as hell.
Specialty/Where: none
Dental School Attended: Temple
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): No
NBDE Part I/II scores: 84/87
Class Ranking: Top 15%
Externship(s)/where: MGH, Drexel
Research: Lots, several publications, international presentations,
Extracurriculars: Cycling, drinking, brewing, hiking...
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 25/9/9/9
Specialty/Where: none
Dental School Attended: Temple
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): No
NBDE Part I/II scores: 84/87
Class Ranking: Top 15%
Externship(s)/where: MGH, Drexel
Research: Lots, several publications, international presentations,
Extracurriculars: Cycling, drinking, brewing, hiking...
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 25/9/9/9
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No way! And you're a home brewer? That makes it even worse! Anyone getting any post-match love? There are 11 spots! Someone has to be getting some action.
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Name: dentalguy
Specialty/Where: Emory 6 yr
Dental School Attended: Oregon
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): no
NBDE Part I/II scores: 88/?
Class Ranking: top 20
Match/Non-Match: match
Externship(s)/where: Emory, LSU-NO, Parkland
Research: 2 projects, 1 presentation at a national meeting
Extracurriculars: average
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 20+/12/11/11
Specialty/Where: Emory 6 yr
Dental School Attended: Oregon
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): no
NBDE Part I/II scores: 88/?
Class Ranking: top 20
Match/Non-Match: match
Externship(s)/where: Emory, LSU-NO, Parkland
Research: 2 projects, 1 presentation at a national meeting
Extracurriculars: average
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 20+/12/11/11
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Congrats man!
Name: OMFS32
Specialty/Where: OMFS/ Indiana University
Dental School Attended: Indiana University
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): no
NBDE Part I/II scores: 91/ not taken
Class Ranking: 6/110
Match/Non-Match: match
Externship(s)/where: UT Knoxville, Ohio State University, Carle Clinic
Research: Fluoride Research
Extracurriculars: the usual
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 13/13/11/11
Specialty/Where: OMFS/ Indiana University
Dental School Attended: Indiana University
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): no
NBDE Part I/II scores: 91/ not taken
Class Ranking: 6/110
Match/Non-Match: match
Externship(s)/where: UT Knoxville, Ohio State University, Carle Clinic
Research: Fluoride Research
Extracurriculars: the usual
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 13/13/11/11
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I'll have to add to the pot
Name: Homar
Specialty/Where: none
Dental School Attended: LLU
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): no
NBDE Part I/II scores: 90/87
Class Ranking: somewhere up there / 96
Match/Non-Match: Nope
Externship(s)/where: Parkland, LLU, LSU-NO, USC+LAC
Research: Pathology Research
Extracurriculars: decent amount
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked: 27/6/6/6
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2 things I noticed. With only 6 interviews, the stats show you have a chance at not matching. Also, a yield of 6 interviews off of 25+ should cause for some self analysis. Not suggesting the applicant doesn't deserve to be an OMS or isn't capable of it. Plenty of people with lesser stats got more interviews off fewer applications with less of a total package. Something is happening here that is limiting your success that on paper you deserve.
Figure out what the issue is and apply again.
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Created an account just to ask that? Jealous?
Don't know anything about it, but if she was qualified and had more interviews than just that one, I don't have a problem with it.
Don't know anything about it, but if she was qualified and had more interviews than just that one, I don't have a problem with it.
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Tough luck to those above who didn't match. Great stats and good luck in the future.
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Thanks! Appreciate it! I am off to MGH for an internship
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Except according to one of her classmates she only "interviewed" at NYU and her boards were above 80 and less than 85 (they wouldn't be exact in my guessing game but not that it matters at that low).
I definitely agree, and it goes to show how meticulous one's application should be irrespective of stats. Better luck for me next year, haha
That's life... having connections helps... get used to it. No use in whining about it; just do your best and if it's good enough, you'll get where you want to be.
Mo
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Second account created just for that? Your envy is tasted from here.
I agree with Mo. Would it make you feel better if we all got on here and bashed a person we don't know about a situation we know less about? Man (or woman) up. Welcome to life.
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Life isn't fair but it is still our duty to at least make it fair, not make it even more unfair...When people who don't really deserve their position get it than the world becomes corrupt. Look at the middle east all these revolts going on because people who don't deserve their positions slack off... I know distant metaphor but still brings to my mind characteristics of a third world country's way of ruling you are based on who your daddy is. Shameful to the oms community at best!!
BTW I'm not jealous I got matched to one of the best in the country, but still irks me why I and many others have to work our asses off and some get it handed on a silver platter.
"Food for thought"
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You are correct.
When nepotism happens, it stings those who were passed up because of it.
It is also damaging to NYU though. That is a coveted spot for applicants and I bet they had a ton of solid applicants. It sends the wrong message, I feel.
But at the end of the day, NYU can do whatever they want. There is risk in taking any applicant on as a resident. At least they know this family-member-applicant well.
Add that to an unmatched position and poor NYU will have some explaining to do at next year's interview! They'll be fine though.
Unfortunately there are no checks/balances with this type of stuff, these programs can do whatever the hell they want and it has zero effect on us trying to get in to the program and suck up to these fools. No way in hell is any of us applicants gonna call them out on it lol
$100 says that if asked at they interview what the applicants thought about it 10/10 would say "I think she is the best applicant you could have accepted...Does that mean I get the spot now???"
I dont think there was any jealousy... I too wonder if the unmatched positions were due to the the chairmans daughter being selected. Why would anybody in their right mind want to be a co-resident with the chairmans daughter regardless of program. As an intern she would get a better call schedule and as a chief she would get the better cases. I think any rumor of her matching there drove applicants to rank the program low thus the unmatched spots. Second, given the program had two unmatched spots there is no way to even support the idea that she took another applicants spot. Up through match day the door was wide open for not one additional but two additional applicants. No one chose to walk through.
Another theory is the two unmatched spots are due to 1) cost of NYU 2) Dr. Schmidt and cancer... Remember UCSF has had unmatched spots for the past few years and this year none... NYU two... makes you wonder. But then again I don't know how much he is operating and what his involvement is with the NYU program. Hes a great guy, awesome surgeon, but people tend to shy away from the work associated with cancer patients.
Another theory is the two unmatched spots are due to 1) cost of NYU 2) Dr. Schmidt and cancer... Remember UCSF has had unmatched spots for the past few years and this year none... NYU two... makes you wonder. But then again I don't know how much he is operating and what his involvement is with the NYU program. Hes a great guy, awesome surgeon, but people tend to shy away from the work associated with cancer patients.
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Wow, congratulations to those who matched. Does anyone know if international students (who earned their DDS/DMD in the US) can match into OMS programs?
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It is possible but very very difficult!
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Does anybody know which programs are more open to take interns as opposed to 4th year dental students? I would like to apply next year and I need to know where do I have better chances if I go for an extra year of internship.
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Gary "hold the mustard" Ruska here,
This is specious reasoning at best, grossly misleading and incorrect at worst.
A few things:
1. GR believes that there was only one year where UCSF had 2 unmatched spots and that was the year that Schmidt was announced to be leaving.
2. NYU has been doing cancer prior to Schmidt's arrival. Dr. Hirsch has been operating there for at least a few years now.
3. GR would bet that UCSF has no unmatched spots this year because they probably ranked at least 5-10 more people than they did last year, just to avoid having unmatched spots.
NYU is a great program - this is a surprising result. Regardless of what may explain this, it serves as an important reminder to both programs and applicants to have a deep rank list because, on interview day, everybody lies.
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Gary "I need more mustard" Ruska , what does GR mean by "everyone lies"
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This is far from the only injustice of the Match, and I am not convinced it is an injustice. And before all you guys with your high board scores and good grades get your panties wrapped to tight over this, complete your residency and then tell me how important your board scores and grades really are.
In our residency we have a very diverse group of residents. We have board scores from the mid to low 80's to very high 90's. Grades were all over the place. And I can assure there is no correlation b/w these factors and the caliber of resident. I hesitantly give credence to strong academic achievement in dental school, what I really care about is someone who did an internship, excelled, was well liked, and continues to have a desire to be an Oral Surgeon. I actually prefer someone I can get along with over someone with high academic marks. Dental school is a joke. Part 1 is a joke.
I simply want someone that is smart enough to know when I need to be called at night, and when I dont. Someone who can make a sound decision about orders in the middle of the night. Someone who is not too lazy to do their job and the slack they have to pick up for others. I could care less if they know the worthless material they test on the dental boards. The fact that everyone in my class passed that test disqualifies it as a legitimate exam.
Congrats to all you with your 90's on the board, but come July 1 it doesnt matter. Unless you all are intimately familiar with the situation, no one can say they deserve a spot anymore than this girl at NYU.
In our residency we have a very diverse group of residents. We have board scores from the mid to low 80's to very high 90's. Grades were all over the place. And I can assure there is no correlation b/w these factors and the caliber of resident. I hesitantly give credence to strong academic achievement in dental school, what I really care about is someone who did an internship, excelled, was well liked, and continues to have a desire to be an Oral Surgeon. I actually prefer someone I can get along with over someone with high academic marks. Dental school is a joke. Part 1 is a joke.
I simply want someone that is smart enough to know when I need to be called at night, and when I dont. Someone who can make a sound decision about orders in the middle of the night. Someone who is not too lazy to do their job and the slack they have to pick up for others. I could care less if they know the worthless material they test on the dental boards. The fact that everyone in my class passed that test disqualifies it as a legitimate exam.
Congrats to all you with your 90's on the board, but come July 1 it doesnt matter. Unless you all are intimately familiar with the situation, no one can say they deserve a spot anymore than this girl at NYU.
That couldn't be further from the truth. Schmidt is a great addition to NYU and will make its reputation stronger than it was before. Like Ruska said, the year UCSF did not match 2 spots was the year Schmidt announced that he was leaving.
I totally agree he is a great addition. What I proposed is straight up conjecture and is based on many applicants I encountered not wanting to do cancer or rather manage cancer patients. No slight on Dr. Schmidt at all just that at cancer programs and strong ones like NYU now with more than one cancer surgeon you need to be prepared to work. Maybe there are no hard workers out there right now.
Point taken with his leaving UCSF and unmatched spots. Most times reality based in fact is better than conjecture. My bad
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Can GR or anybody with the qualifications thereof please explain why programs don't rank all the applicants? It just seems weird that a program would rather have nobody and go through the pain of an open match slot than the worst person that they interviewed. I experienced this personally and am a bit overwhelmed... For instance... I interviewed at Wash Hosp Center with 29 other applicants. The interview itself was only 10 minutes and there were 8 people interviewing me and I really have a hard time believing that I botched it that bad (Then again maybe I am that bad, but hopefully not 🙁) Anyhow, I ended up not matching and WHC ended up having an open spot. I called the program and asked them what happened and they couldn't really give me a straight answer. They said that it wasn't me and that something was going on at their end and they are trying to fix it but it is hard to tell.
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Specialty/where: OMFS
Dental School: USA
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student: No
NBDE Part one: 92/?
Class Rank: in top of class
Match/Non-Match: Match
Externships: 2
Research: 1 publication, 1 poster presentation
Extracurriculars: a lot
P/I/I/P: 28/21/19/18
Grades are important, contrary to what some thought above, but I do think they should not be the only determinant and I can vouch for that.
In my view grades only get you through the door the rest is on your personality. How much passion you have for this field really can be sensed in less than a minute during an interview.
To all who did not match this year do NOT give up. I think a year of internship will help a lot. At the end of the road there is a light for those who follow in its path. If you really want something out there, hard work and sacrifice will pay off.
For those who matched congratulations. Let us help make this field even more glorious and even more estimable.
I can't wait to work with my co-residents
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Yeah I was beat by the end my friend. Literally flying from one interview to another with no sleep for 48 hours straight. Payed off big time in the end though thank god.
🙂
😉It takes a special animal to become an OMFS these days. You must be ruthless, cunning, intelligent, egotistic, obsessed, hard skinned, friendly, optimistic, fearless, ass kissing, ocassionally grovellng, trustworthy, highly organized, emotionless, a prolific speaker, manually dextrous with, able to function on 4 hours sleep on average while in training, constantly aware of your surroundings and competition, able to avoid negative criticism, willing to go through a divorce or two, knowledgable on how to invest your money and stay out of debt, able to surround yourself with like-minded associates, able to plan for the future, able to admit that 75 % of the training you recieved will not be used when you get out, able to live with Periodontists who have capitalized on our lack of specialization in implant dentistry and comprehensive treatment planning and have done so admirably for the past 20 years, able to get beat up by the insurance industry or fail financially, and, chug a bottle of wine in less than 2 minutes prior to going on a date. Think I'm kidding???
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Simply amazing. Do you mind if I ask where you went to dental school?
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Lol, NICE!!
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Did you learn this from being in an OMS residency somewhere?
A lil late to the party
Name: UT-Houston
Specialty/Where: OMFS
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): No
NBDE Part I/II scores: 92/80
Class Ranking: 39/96
Match/Non-Match: match
Externship(s)/where: ut-houston, parkland, baylor, oklahoma
Research: one summer, nothing published
Extracurriculars: class prez all 4 yrs; 3 community service chair positions; involved in alot of student organizations
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked:
applied to 23/invites at 11/attended 9/ranked 8
hope this helps the upcoming applicants!
Name: UT-Houston
Specialty/Where: OMFS
Year Earned DMD/DDS: 2011
International Student (yes/no): No
NBDE Part I/II scores: 92/80
Class Ranking: 39/96
Match/Non-Match: match
Externship(s)/where: ut-houston, parkland, baylor, oklahoma
Research: one summer, nothing published
Extracurriculars: class prez all 4 yrs; 3 community service chair positions; involved in alot of student organizations
Programs Applied to/Interview Invites/Interviews attended/Programs Ranked:
applied to 23/invites at 11/attended 9/ranked 8
hope this helps the upcoming applicants!
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If you don't mind me asking, what program did you match into? And when did you do your externships? What years/summers? etc. Do you think your externships were crucial to your match?
Huge congratulations!!
lol guess i was unclear.
matched at ut-houston; basically anytime off i had, specifically during the summer, i did my externships. Started externing summer after 2nd yr.
Ya i think they played a pretty big deal.
matched at ut-houston; basically anytime off i had, specifically during the summer, i did my externships. Started externing summer after 2nd yr.
Ya i think they played a pretty big deal.
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Thanks for the response! Where did you go to dental school?
