2012 APPIC Internship Application Thread

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ClinApp said:
So, does anyone have a sense of the average "return on investment" for applications to interviews? I have heard a statistic of approximately 40% from previous years' applicants in my program (again, on average), anyone else hear anything? I have yet to hear of anyone who was invited for an interview every single place they applied, but maybe it does happen on occasion.
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Measures of central tendency are not very useful without a corresponding measure of variance, particularly if you're comparing individual performance to sample/population performance. 😉
 
ClinicalABA said:
Measures of central tendency are not very useful without a corresponding measure of variance, particularly if you're comparing individual performance to sample/population performance. 😉
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I'm also curious about the average return on investment and it's not because I want to compare my individual performance to the sample performance; it's because I want to know about how many interview invitations to expect. Given a standard distribution, the mean is still the best estimate for where an individual score will fall.
 
KillerDiller said:
I'm also curious about the average return on investment and it's not because I want to compare my individual performance to the sample performance; it's because I want to know about how many interview invitations to expect. Given a standard distribution, the mean is still the best estimate for where an individual score will fall.
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I seem to remember something in the thread last year about your chance of matching influenced by how many interviews you get...does anyone have that info?
 
JessieSmith said:
I seem to remember something in the thread last year about your chance of matching influenced by how many interviews you get...does anyone have that info?
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JessieSmith- I feel like I definitely read that somewhere, too. Was it like 8 interviews and your chances of matching are in the 90something percent? That could have been off the data APPIC sent out from those post-match questionnaires, which I always thought might be skewed since not everyone fills them out?

And congrat Member33333 on the interview! How exciting! 😀
 
Look at the APPIC site and review the Match statistics to get a general idea...but also keep in mind that some people get fewer or more interviews and still match..or don't. There is no magic formula no matter how much we want one...Ideally you would have enough interviews that you could rank 6 to 8 places. And people won't and will still match.
 
serendipity2 said:
JessieSmith- I feel like I definitely read that somewhere, too. Was it like 8 interviews and your chances of matching are in the 90something percent? That could have been off the data APPIC sent out from those post-match questionnaires, which I always thought might be skewed since not everyone fills them out?
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It may have been something about the proportion of interviews compared to the apps you send out...I can't quite remember, but I'm searching through the old thread.
 
JessieSmith said:
It may have been something about the proportion of interviews compared to the apps you send out...I can't quite remember, but I'm searching through the old thread.
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The numbers from the old thread, as docma mentioned, are actually available under the "match statistics" section(s) of APPIC's website.

Basically, they look at the average number of rankings submitted by individuals who matched (somewhere between 6 and 7 IIRC) vs. those who didn't (between 3 and 4, again, IIRC).

This obviously doesn't give you an exact idea of how many interviews each group received, although I would imagine it generally holds that most applicants will not rank most sites at which they didn't receive an interview. Keep in mind, though, that there's no "penalty" for ranking sites. Thus, I'm sure more than one applicant ranked sites they didn't interview at, just as I'm sure some applicants didn't rank sites where they did interview.

I'm not sure of any data that shows the average interview "return" rate (i.e., the average ratio of interviews to applications sent) for matched vs. unmatched applicants, though. Off the top of my head, and thus as a COMPLETE guess based on gut instinct and what I remember from last year, I'd say that if you're getting a ~40+% return on 15-20 applications, you're probably doing fairly well. Just as a personal example, another applicant from my program and I were both at a bit over 40% and both fortunately ended up matching.

Then again, as cliche as it might sound, always remember--it really does only take ONE great interview and fit. On the flip side, there are no guarantees regardless of return rate/number of interviews.
 
Yes, it is all just ultimately conjecture, as we try to grapple with things that feel out of our control. Nevertheless, it's nice to engage in conversation with folks going through the same crazy process!
 
Team Kakashi said:
Does anyone know anything about Temple University Consortium? Their APPIC directory listing was updated 10/28 but their website has been taken down for revisions. It says that an updated version will be posted "soon." What an awful time to revamp the program... Just want to get these last few in and be done with it!

Did you ever hear any updates about this? I am also waiting to apply here for this reason...
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Just received my first interview offer from Community Healthlink Youth and Family Services in Worcester, MA! They didn't offer me an interview last year, so things are already off to a better start!
 
LindsPsyD said:
Just received my first interview offer from Community Healthlink Youth and Family Services in Worcester, MA! They didn't offer me an interview last year, so things are already off to a better start!
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Woo! Congrats LindsPsyD. Thanks for sharing🙂
 
MemberNumber said:
Looks like I will be interviewing with Member33333

Also, Minnesota Children's Hospitals and Clinics sent internship interview offers out yesterday morning via email.
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Very cool! Definitely wasn't expecting to hear back from any sites this early.
 
Sites where an interview has been offered
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11/15 Bellevue-NYU (Child and Adolescent) and (Adult Track)- email
11/14 Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota - email
11/15 Children's Mercy
11/14 Cincinnati Children's Hospital (BM track) - phone
11/15 Community Healthlink Youth and Family Services
11/09 James Madison University - phone interview invite
11/10 Long Island Jewish (neuropsych) - email
11/11ish MercyFirst (invite sent week of 11/7-11/11)
11/08 Rochester BOP - mass email
11/09 Rush University Medical Center (neuropsych) - e-mail invite
11/07 UCSF Child and Adolescent Services
11/10 University of Florida (BMed) - mass e-mail invite
11/10 University of Florida (Neuro)
11/15 UIC Dept. of Psychiatry (child clinical) - email

Sites where a rejection has already been sent
11/10 Rush University (neuropsych?)
11/15 Kings Country Hospital Center

IMPORTANT DATES:

12/15 last day for MOST interview invites notification
2/8 last day for ranking internship sites
2/24 MATCH DAY
3/1 Submission for MATCH PHASE II
3/19 Submission of ranking for MATCH PHASE II
3/26 MATCH PHASE II DAY
 
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Member33333 said:
Very cool! Definitely wasn't expecting to hear back from any sites this early.
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I know! I thought it was a telemarketer calling me, because I got a call of that sort from a very similar area code the day before. Glad I answered. Which date did you pick?
 
MemberNumber said:
I know! I thought it was a telemarketer calling me, because I got a call of that sort from a very similar area code the day before. Glad I answered. Which date did you pick?
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I chose 1/6 ... I was hoping for a December date, but they were already gone by the time I was able to call back!
 
Member33333 said:
I chose 1/6 ... I was hoping for a December date, but they were already gone by the time I was able to call back!
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We're on the same date. I avoided the early date because I'd like to get a few others under my belt before that one, as I imagine they'll at least be in my top 5 when it's all said and done.

I assume we applied to a lot of similar sites...where else are you waiting to hear back from (if you don't mind me asking as an anonymous internet person)?
 
Quynh2007 said:
Sites where an interview has been offered
*just added*
11/14 Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota - email
11/14 Cincinnati Children's Hospital (BM track) - phone
11/15 Community Healthlink Youth and Family Services
11/09 James Madison University - phone interview invite
11/10 Long Island Jewish (neuropsych) - email
11/11ish MercyFirst (invite sent week of 11/7-11/11)
11/08 Rochester BOP - mass email
11/09 Rush University Medical Center (neuropsych) - e-mail invite
11/07 UCSF Child and Adolescent Services
11/10 University of Florida (BMed) - mass e-mail invite
11/10 University of Florida (Neuro)

Sites where a rejection has already been sent
11/10 Rush University (neuropsych?)

IMPORTANT DATES:

12/15 last day for MOST interview invites notification
2/8 last day for ranking internship sites
2/24 MATCH DAY
3/1 Submission for MATCH PHASE II
3/19 Submission of ranking for MATCH PHASE II
3/26 MATCH PHASE II DAY
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Did someone on the forum hear from Long Island Jewish's neuropsych track? I can't find any mention of it.
 
Posted about this on another thread, but wanted to make sure NY applicants see it:

Apparently, NY State (I am referring to the state government system and NOT any other public or private settings) will be eliminating most of its internship sites after the current internship year. In the NYC area, I believe the only remaining sites will be Manhattan Psychiatric, Queens Children's, and Pilgrim. There is another upstate, in Albany (can't recall the name). Please check before submitting applications to any other site in the NY State government system.
 
The UIC Dept. of Psychiatry sent out an e-mail invite for interviews for the child track this afternoon.
 
I am not sure who else has applied to prisons; however, if of interest I received a personalized confirmation e-mail from the Florida DOC. Hoping to hear about interviews soon. I have a feeling i'll be waiting until the very last notifcation day as that seems to be the trend in corrections.
 
MemberNumber said:
Looks like I will be interviewing with Member33333

Also, Minnesota Children's Hospitals and Clinics sent internship interview offers out yesterday morning via email.
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Was your interview invite for Cincinnati Children's also for the BMed track or the child clinical track?
 
aventurine said:
Posted about this on another thread, but wanted to make sure NY applicants see it:

Apparently, NY State (I am referring to the state government system and NOT any other public or private settings) will be eliminating most of its internship sites after the current internship year. In the NYC area, I believe the only remaining sites will be Manhattan Psychiatric, Queens Children's, and Pilgrim. There is another upstate, in Albany (can't recall the name). Please check before submitting applications to any other site in the NY State government system.
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Hi can you tell where I can read this information??? I am really concerned. Thanks!!!!
 
Long time reader... 1st time posting 🙂

Glad to hear others are checking their email as frequently as I am! Even though I know that many of my sites (lots of VA's) probably won't get back to me until Dec 15... doesn't stop the checking. But I must say, it's exciting hearing the interview invites rolling in- both here on the forum, as well as in my own program for my classmates.

Sending out good vibes for all of us!

:luck:
 
I got an email for an interview for the Child and Adolescent Track at Bellevue-NYU!
 
Bad2DBone said:
Long time reader... 1st time posting 🙂

Glad to hear others are checking their email as frequently as I am! Even though I know that many of my sites (lots of VA's) probably won't get back to me until Dec 15... doesn't stop the checking. But I must say, it's exciting hearing the interview invites rolling in- both here on the forum, as well as in my own program for my classmates.

Sending out good vibes for all of us!

:luck:
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I know! I can't stop checking either. By the way--I like your member name! :laugh:
 
Children's Mercy contacted for interviews today, late.

To the person asking, my interview was to the behavioral medicine track also; not sure if the clinical child contacts have been made.
 
Are most of the emails that sites are sending individualized or mass emails?
 
I received an interview for Bellevue/NYU's adult track! (via e-mail today)

I also received a rejection from Kings County Hospital Center via e-mail. It was very confusing however because the subject of the e-mail simply said "Kings County Interview" which made me very excited but then the attached letter ended up being a rejection letter.


aventurine said:
Posted about this on another thread, but wanted to make sure NY applicants see it:

Apparently, NY State (I am referring to the state government system and NOT any other public or private settings) will be eliminating most of its internship sites after the current internship year. In the NYC area, I believe the only remaining sites will be Manhattan Psychiatric, Queens Children's, and Pilgrim. There is another upstate, in Albany (can't recall the name). Please check before submitting applications to any other site in the NY State government system.
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The other sites that will still have an internship next year is Hutching Psychiatric Center & CDPC.
 
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causeeffect said:
I received an interview for Bellevue/NYU's adult track! (via e-mail today)

I also received a rejection from Kings Country Hospital Center via e-mail. It was very confusing however because the subject of the e-mail simply said "Kings County Interview" which made me very excited but then the attached letter ended up being a rejection letter.
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Yay for all the interviews!

AND isn't that awful how sites do that? I know they don't mean to but still, come on. Hopes up, then dashed. At least no sites have sent out accidental invitations this year, so far, like seems to happen at at least one site every year.

I haven't heard from any sites about interviews yet, myself. It seems like the invitations are really early this year or like more people are posting about them than in past years.
 
causeeffect said:
The other sites that will still have an internship next year is Hutching Psychiatric Center & CDPC.
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Yes, CDPC was the one in Albany I mentioned...couldn't recall the name. I hadn't heard about Hutchings PC. Good to know there is one more.
 
Wow! Stressed out over this whole mess. Hearing all the wonderful news about interviews people are getting is great and gives me hope. Only have a confirmation e-mail so far from Florida DOC. but happy to have that.
 
MemberNumber said:
Children's Mercy contacted for interviews today, late.

To the person asking, my interview was to the behavioral medicine track also; not sure if the clinical child contacts have been made.
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Thanks so much, and congrats on the interviews! Also, I heard that the adult track interview invitations will likely be sent out in the next couple of days for University of Illinois at Chicago.
 
Oblivian said:
Wow! Stressed out over this whole mess. Hearing all the wonderful news about interviews people are getting is great and gives me hope. Only have a confirmation e-mail so far from Florida DOC. but happy to have that.
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Welcome to the madness Oblivian! I hear you- reading about these interviews is so exciting. Definitely makes it more "real." It is only November 15th though- we have another month of this!! Ah!😱
 
ClinApp said:
Thanks so much, and congrats on the interviews! Also, I heard that the adult track interview invitations will likely be sent out in the next couple of days for University of Illinois at Chicago.
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Eeek! 😱

Anyone else attending a conference this week?
 
KAC0106 said:
Hi can you tell where I can read this information??? I am really concerned. Thanks!!!!
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I didn't read it, but was told by a trustworthy source. It is definitely accurate.

Causeeffect, did you read it somewhere, or also just learn by word-of-mouth?
 
aventurine said:
I didn't read it, but was told by a trustworthy source. It is definitely accurate.

Causeeffect, did you read it somewhere, or also just learn by word-of-mouth?
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I read it in an e-mail that was forwarded to me by my supervisor. Also today I received a phone call from one of the effected sites (Hudson River/Rockland PC) stating that they are not going to be having an internship next year.
 
causeeffect said:
I received an interview for Bellevue/NYU's adult track! (via e-mail today)

I also received a rejection from Kings Country Hospital Center via e-mail. It was very confusing however because the subject of the e-mail simply said "Kings County Interview" which made me very excited but then the attached letter ended up being a rejection letter.




The other sites that will still have an internship next year is Hutching Psychiatric Center & CDPC.
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Was it a mass email from Bellevue?
 
Hi guys,

Got an email inviting me for an interview to the BIDMC/Mass Mental Health Center this morning.

Congrats to us all for getting through the app process...!
 
Someone asked if the Community Healthlink clinical child track had also extended invitations for interviews. I apologize, because I have been scouring the thread and cannot find that post to reply to it. One of the members of my cohort received an invitation from Community Healthlink for the clinical child track yesterday.
 
Got an email from the William and Mary Counseling Center saying they received my application and plan on notifying by December 15th about interview status. They included interview dates for convenience which is really awesome! The dates are Jan. 6, 9, 10, 12, and 13 from 9am to 215pm and they stated that they have no preference whether you do in person or phone interviews.
 
I was just thinking about how I haven't heard from some of the sites that people have gotten interviews from and started to worry. Then, I realized that the deadlines for at least one site mentioned here isn't for another week. Makes me glad that I applied early, even if I haven't heard from them yet. 😛
 
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