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2013-2014 Radiology Applicants Thread
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I don't envy you. I'd be much less motivated to do well with a bunch of interviews in pocket already.
I took it today. Glad it's over with! It's amazing how these tests make you feel like your score range could be within a 40-50 point window.
On the crappy side, I missed out on scheduling an interview, because my phone had to be off. Guess I wasn't meant to go there.
On the crappy side, I missed out on scheduling an interview, because my phone had to be off. Guess I wasn't meant to go there.
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You missed it from just one day?
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I know I missed scheduling an interview at a Rads program based on a few hours. I received the offer around 10 AM while doing a Prelim interview. By the time I had sent my email requesting my dates around 2 pm, they were completely filled. I knew you had to schedule quickly, but that really surprised me. Not sure what I could have done because I didn't want to be checking my phone throughout my day. Oh well.
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This is why I love programs that use InterviewBroker. Best service ever.
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Not sure how expensive it is for programs to have. But I have had nothing but great experiences with it.
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Been getting quite a few rejections lately. Bummer.
I guess I'll chalk it up to regional bias.
I guess I'll chalk it up to regional bias.
Interview broker is 1.99 / interviewee. Really good system, I e-mailed them about how the wait list algorithm works and if someone wants your day, you see their day as available. Pretty slick.
Same here, just got rejected from my home state (not home institution) and am really bummed. I don't want to stay in my region (too hot) and was hoping to break down some regional bias barriers but I haven't been able to, I didn't even apply that much in my home school region.
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Did anyone get an email from Rush? It sounded like a waitlist
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"Thank you very much for your interest in our residency training program. We
are still in the process of reviewing applications and assessing our needs and
availability for interview opportunities. We will finalize the dates when
this process is complete and see if we have more time available for additional
dates. In the meantime we wish you much luck on your residency match."
Yeah, got that too. Still trying to figure out what it means.
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A hedged rejection, methinks.
I'm such an idiot. I thought I confirmed a date with Wake for the 24th of October. In my email that I sent on 10/8, I said that I'd like to schedule that date if there were no dates in December. They responded with a date in December that I thought was the confirmation. 🙁
Does anyone know if Wake is full? I called them and emailed them tonight...I was going to probably rank them highly, too.
Does anyone know if Wake is full? I called them and emailed them tonight...I was going to probably rank them highly, too.
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Did anyone else get an email from Stanford announcing a combined Rads/Nucs residency program? I thought it kind of weird since Stanford has not issued interview invitations yet.
Got one too. Didn't really think it was too weird, just advertising.
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I've gotten other "advertising emails", but only after I've already gotten an interview. It was strange to me they would be emailing out info about a new program when you can't apply to it separately and before they've offered interviews.
Perhaps my neuroses are coming out.
Perhaps my neuroses are coming out.
Maybe it's a good sign of things to come!!
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I've asked that question to a lot of people. You'll find that there are two perspectives.
1. Do the hardest prelim you can.
If you want to go into academia, people will always know where your prelim was. You can't escape it. Some say you need to do a hard prelim to get respect from the internal medicine community/administration.
2. Do the easiest prelim you can, so when you join our program, you have energy to work hard.
I think this one is self-explanatory. Your advanced program has no idea where you are interviewing for internship nor where you match.
It also depends on what your goals are: if you want to do informatics or systems/ops/organizational stuff, then perhaps doing an intern year where you want to eventually work on systems makes sense. Some people pick a cool location, some want to minimize long-distance moves. People all have variable situations.
1. Do the hardest prelim you can.
If you want to go into academia, people will always know where your prelim was. You can't escape it. Some say you need to do a hard prelim to get respect from the internal medicine community/administration.
2. Do the easiest prelim you can, so when you join our program, you have energy to work hard.
I think this one is self-explanatory. Your advanced program has no idea where you are interviewing for internship nor where you match.
It also depends on what your goals are: if you want to do informatics or systems/ops/organizational stuff, then perhaps doing an intern year where you want to eventually work on systems makes sense. Some people pick a cool location, some want to minimize long-distance moves. People all have variable situations.
Is this post for real?
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Where I'm at, people say that. I never said whether I agree with it.
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It's completely wrong.
No one cares where you did your intern year except you.
EDIT: The only exception is if you're thinking of switching specialties, then maybe a hard prelim where you might be able to stay for a categorical spot could be a reasonable choice.
Huh. I was being sincere: I really didn't know if you were just playin.
People seriously think that your fellowship/job offer/potential consult will be influenced by where you were an intern? "Let's give Dr. Smith the job because he was a surgery intern at Duke and Dr. Johnson was just a TY at riverside." "Let's wait until Weds when Dr. Nguyen is on to order the study because he was prelim med at JHU and not a measly TY at Scripps."
I literally can't imagine a scenario where it could matter (all other things being equal).
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I think it really depends on your surroundings. I'm in a place that's a touch academically overachieving. I've spoken to program directors here that will straight up tell you to do a tough internship as "It's the last time you will physically exam patients; your medical foundation will serve as the bedrock for your radiology education" etc etc.
That said, I smile, and nod. I applied to 25 TYs; obviously I have other things in mind.
That said, I smile, and nod. I applied to 25 TYs; obviously I have other things in mind.
So I've been getting a good number of interviews from my reach and mid tier schools, but recently got a pair of rejections from some schools that I considered safeties. Do you guys think that schools may reject applicants if they feel you may be using them as a safety or back up (they think you are overqualified for the typical applicant they match)?
Yes. They want to interview people they think have a good chance of matching. If you have 3 publications in NEJM, you probably won't get an invite from random non-academic hospital out of your region because they know you're looking for something else. Some places struggle to fill - they don't want to fill all their slots with folks that are out of their league.
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Wondered this to. It's got me slightly worried.
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Would you cancel an interview you're less interested in to make it to the dinner of a program you're way more interested in?
I got lucky and got an interview at a program I really love, but the date is one day after a program I'm not so into, across the country. I could go to both, but I'd get into the second city around 11pm and miss the dinner. I'm also (less) worried something could go wrong with the flight and I'd either get in at like 3 am or miss it altogether. There's only the one flight.
I'm tempted to just cancel the other one so I can ensure I do well on the one I really want. Is this stupid? (At the moment I have 16 interviews scheduled.)
Edit: I know about the interview swap thread but none of this program's other dates work for me either, so I'd pretty much have to straight cancel it.
I got lucky and got an interview at a program I really love, but the date is one day after a program I'm not so into, across the country. I could go to both, but I'd get into the second city around 11pm and miss the dinner. I'm also (less) worried something could go wrong with the flight and I'd either get in at like 3 am or miss it altogether. There's only the one flight.
I'm tempted to just cancel the other one so I can ensure I do well on the one I really want. Is this stupid? (At the moment I have 16 interviews scheduled.)
Edit: I know about the interview swap thread but none of this program's other dates work for me either, so I'd pretty much have to straight cancel it.
Cancel the interview, 16 is plenty enough assuming they aren't the top 16 programs in the nation. Let someone who either wants or needs the other spot have it. Particularly cancel it if you wouldn't rank in top half of your list. The fact that you are even asking us indicates your preference.
How many Intern year programs do you feel is enough to guarantee yourself matching (within reason). I don't want to start cancelling but I really feel that I applied to too many.
I have so far:
9 total:
4 TY
5 Prelim med
I am a very competitive applicant as far as board scores, grades, letters, etc is considered. Ideally, I'd like to cancel some of them.
Thanks!
I have so far:
9 total:
4 TY
5 Prelim med
I am a very competitive applicant as far as board scores, grades, letters, etc is considered. Ideally, I'd like to cancel some of them.
Thanks!
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I'll take some of yours ;-)
I think it speaks less to the quality of my application and more to the vastness of my application. Poor SDN for freaking me out and making apply to too many. Although it was cool to see that the application counter went back to zero when comparing prelim med/TY - saved me a ton of money.
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I guess I'm interested too on how many prelim and how many tYs one should go on to likely match? I'm fairly competitive too and right now have like 5 tys and 4 prelims I think
I have 4 TY. Didn't apply prelim.
Did anyone get the email from Akron? I'm a little furious that I had an interview scheduled with them for 2 months then they sent out the email, "Oh, BTW, we're not taking residents next year. JK about the interview. LOL."
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Does anyone have any insight on how long programs' waitlists are? I understand most interview 70-90 candidates, so I'd think 20-30 people?
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I doubt it's that set. There's little incentive to reject people early on unless you'd rather scramble than match them.
Most programs interview 10x the number of applicant spots. The less competitive (and smaller) community programs can go up to 20x or even 30x.
If you are really on a waiting list, the most important thing to do is show interest (without being annoying).
Good luck folks.
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Just trying to revitalize this thread 🙂
I have notes of things that are important to me, and that I noticed, but I won't be posting them until after rank lists are submitted.
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Just curious if any programs beside Mayo require a suit on a regular basis?
Okay.
Wake Forest – Pros – Amazing program director. Faculty are almost universally exceptionally nice, outgoing, and down to earth, according to residents. Residents are happy. Small town, yet larger than *****hometown***(fairly easy to navigate). Affordable living. No IR fellowship currently (will likely change soon), so residents are always able to do the procedure or be first assist. Department is willing to work with the residents on pet projections (PD told me that I could take a day on a “easier” service to travel to my undergrad to lecture, for example). Golf courses are plentiful. Great call schedule. Very good setup for board prep. Collegial environment. Significant amount of moonlighting opportunities with a former PP chair, so the opportunities will probably remain. Chair is very involved in resident education (physics series), listens to resident input, and seems to be a very nice person. Very customizable fourth year schedule, but without a formal “mini fellowship.” Cons – Smaller town, surprising amount of traffic for the city size. Not as many research opportunity as larger institutions. Chest is the weakest department.
Colorado – Strange vibe. Enjoyed the interview, but something just felt weird. Maybe it had to do with the fact that they interviewed 40 of us on the same day. Pros – Amazing location with a nice city, and an exorbitant amount of outdoor activities nearby. For a large city, it is very easy to navigate. Low cost of living with fairly high pay (PGY2 – 52k). Cheap golf course immediately adjacent to the hospital where residents often get together and play after work. Residents also meet up for other things like happy hour and sporting events. There is a yearly department retreat that sounds wonderful. Hockey opportunities are plentiful. Residents seem very happy, and get along very well. Collegial environment. IR factory - 3 or 4 residents out of every class go into IR at very good fellowships. Exceptionally strong program in Peds (likely the strongest program in the country, from what I can tell) and trauma (for obvious reasons, see above activities). Have formal “mini-fellowships” in place. Significant amount of research opportunities that residents can either join up with, or come up with on their own Cons – Per the resident I interviewed with, body is the weakest section. No procedures in body at all, all done by IR. Internal moonlighting opportunities exist only for more senior residents. “Menver,” single male residents seemed disappointed in the dating opportunities in the city.
UVA – Pros – Charlottesville. Probably the best academic program I've interviewed with. Hardworking program, but they do get time off to enjoy life. Collegial environment. UVA name with every fellowship opportunity one could want at their disposal. Strong IR, especially vascular. IR goes into the OR with the vascular surgeons for endovascular procedures. Body section does CT and US guided procedures, while IR concentrates on higher end procedures. DR/IR is an option with a very good program setup. Internal moonlighting is available within the radiology department. Cons – Hard to find any…Some DR/IR residents feel that the clinical months during DR training is a waste of time. Smaller town that does not offer all of the big city amenities.
USF – Pros – Tampa is an amazing city. Beautiful, warm, every professional sport (that actually matters – no basketball), plenty of golf courses, fine dining, low cost of living, etc. Everything I could ever want in a city. Program is extremely laid back. Residents all get along and seem very happy. Unique program setup with a private practice/academic model. Many residents end up doing fellowships in IR. Internal moonlighting exists, and with the practice setup, is not likely to go away. PD seems very open to resident suggestions. New research chair wants to help with projects and getting residents interested in the process. Cons - Do the residents ever actually work? Their attitude says maybe not.
MUSC – Couldn’t get a great feel for the program on interview day. Possibly due to fatigue after 4 interviews in 5 days plus driving up and down the east coast. Pros – Cardiovascular imaging is highly touted by the residents and chair...Residents seem to be very happy. Everyone showed up for lunch and we had a great conversation about everything that Charleston has to offer. Like I said, I couldn't get a good feel for the program. The PD made some statements about the future of training in IR that I've never heard from anyone, including SIR (DR/IR cannot coexist with a fellowship).
Louisville – Pros – Small program 4-6 per year. No fellows currently. Anticipated merger with other large hospital in the city would lead to “Kentucky One” partnership and dramatic growth of volume. After the merger, they are planning on adding around 3 fellows to the department. IR program is completely revamped with new attendings including one big name attending. Very strong IR department with plenty of procedural opportunities. Body does procedures on Tuesdays (…?). Chair is planning on increasing the number of residents in the program to 6 total (strange matriculation schedule. My class would be 6, but they usually take 4). Louisville is a legit city (>1 million people), with a low cost of living. All senior residents passed boards this year, and dismantled the physics section. Up and coming program in my opinion. External moonlighting is allowed. Cons – Currently no fellowship opportunities. No internal moonlighting opportunities currently. Program was reluctant to discuss current weaknesses after being asked several times. Four weeks vacation, but must take off one week in a block in the first half and second half of the year. Otherwise, can take the other days individually.
This is not a conclusive list of all of the programs I've interviewed with. There are a few that I have a pretty good knowledge of and did not feel necessary to make notes on. Like I said, these are short notes I made about things that hit me after the interview. This is also not a rank list.
U of Colorado Peds fellowship is not the best in the country or even close to that. The best Pediatric radiology fellowships are: Children's Hospital of Cincinnati, Boston Children's Hospital (Harvard program) and Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP). Anyway, I don't see a strong Pediatrics hospital a very important factor. Though agree that it has a very strong IR program. They have an excellent chest fellowship.
UVA: Has very strong MSK, IR and mammo fellowships.
I didn't mean to imply that the fellowship is one of the best, but rather that the training one would receive as a resident in peds is one of the best. Like I said, these are my shorthand notes. Also, I tried to list out strengths and weaknesses under pros and cons. Whether they are actually important to me in residency, I don't know. All I can do is go with the information I have on hand. I basically hit key things that would allow me to remember more about the program in February.
