2014 matriculant data

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What is the actual matriculation rate for an applicant? I would imagine that each applicant sends out multiple applications.
 
user3 said:
17,944 submitted applications for 6,465 spots (TCOM not included in this data).
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I have to assume it's only counting unique primary applications? Since each applicant sends out probably at least 5 or so applications, the numbers wouldn't make sense otherwise. So, about 36% of those of apply to DO schools matriculate into a DO school.
 
Wow, makes me sweat a little with MCAT score coming out this month and applications this summer lol :nailbiting:
 
It's interesting to see the GPA and MCATs creep steadily upward. Pity they're switching to a new system, as it'll be hard to directly compare, as new applicants will have a different set of skills required for success than old ones, so even percentiles are measuring a different set of skills.
 
Mavs88 said:
Wow, makes me sweat a little with MCAT score coming out this month and applications this summer lol :nailbiting:
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The ranges are pretty large though. I anticipate that 3.3/24 or better will still yield solid chances if applying early and broadly.
polylux said:
I have to assume it's only counting unique primary applications? Since each applicant sends out probably at least 5 or so applications, the numbers wouldn't make sense otherwise. So, about 36% of those of apply to DO schools matriculate into a DO school.
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It is the number of people that submitted at least 1 app.
 
DetectiveAlonzo said:
Goddamn it. I have a 27 (8 PS, 9 V, and 10 BS), mid-3.4 science and mid 3.3 cumulative.

I DO NOT want to retake the stupid frickin' MCAT now that I'm below the stats for matriculants. I should have applied this year. GODDAMNIT!
It's gonna be pretty tough this next summer.
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Keep in mind these are averages. Your stats would certainly net you an acceptance if you apply broad and early. Probably several. Just write your PS well and make sure your ECs are solid.
 
@DetectiveAlonzo : listen to what madjack and user3 said and you shouldnt be worried. I dont really want to say much more than that but you're forgetting something crucial.
 
DetectiveAlonzo said:
What is that supposed to mean?
Which is?
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Lol I don't know what he's referring to either. But I do think from a numbers standpoint that you still have a solid chance at at least landing some IIs if you apply early and broadly. Especially since you have a pretty balanced MCAT.
 
DetectiveAlonzo said:
I remember him posting somewhat similar, yet a little lower stats than mine. Probably doesn't want to share his advice since we are "competing" this next cycle. Typical neurotic pre-med. Funny thing is I thought peeps like him only existed in the allopathic section and the osteo folks were more helpful.
Every bunch has its bad apples though I guess.

Anyway, thanks @Omppu27

Any insight as to the "crucial" part missing from my app?
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I don't think there is any "crucial" part missing. Beyond your numbers, just make sure you have a mix of ECs that includes community service and DO shadowing. Make sure you are able to describe all your activities in a meaningful way in your personal statement, secondary essays and during interviews. Get all your documents ready to send come June 1st and make sure (once again) to apply broad and early. It's going to be a neurotic few months until you get your first acceptance, so be prepared!
 
Do have shadowing with a couple DOs and a LOR from one of them. I am already done with my PS and getting ready for my app stuff. Thanks.
 
Wow the avg is over a 27? That's crazy!
 
Would you guys say it's "safe" to apply with a lower GPA if it's within one standard deviation of the accepted average for your race/ethnicity?
 
slow twitch said:
Would you guys say it's "safe" to apply with a lower GPA if it's within one standard deviation of the accepted average for your race/ethnicity?
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A lower GPA can be offset by a higher MCAT. However, if your GPA is below 3.0, you will want to retake some courses.
 
polylux said:
I have to assume it's only counting unique primary applications? Since each applicant sends out probably at least 5 or so applications, the numbers wouldn't make sense otherwise. So, about 36% of those of apply to DO schools matriculate into a DO school.
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That's unique applicants. Actual applications is something like 100,000 or so.

blah12346497 said:
Should I be worried? 3.46 GPA 25 MCAT
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No, just be sure to apply early and very broadly.

PerseveranceJoe said:
Should I take a post-bac to better my chances?
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I wouldn't. Apply now and see what happens. If you don't get in, then think about strategic retakes in a DIY post-bac.
 
I'm not picky at all as I would be ecstatic to have any acceptance! The risk of scoring lower scares me as it would probably ruin any chances I had at the start. I did well on PS and Bio but verbal destroyed my score.
 
blah12346497 said:
I'm not picky at all as I would be ecstatic to have any acceptance! The risk of scoring lower scares me as it would probably ruin any chances I had at the start. I did well on PS and Bio but verbal destroyed my score.
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apply broadly and you should be good to go. Do not apply to CCOM, AZCOM, Touro-NY or Touro-CA.
 
slow twitch said:
Would you guys say it's "safe" to apply with a lower GPA if it's within one standard deviation of the accepted average for your race/ethnicity?
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Nothing is "safe." All you can do is throw your name out there and try. If you're within one standard deviation, you probably will have a decent shot though.
 
user3 said:
The ranges are pretty large though. I anticipate that 3.3/24 or better will still yield solid chances if applying early and broadly.
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Any advice for a non-trad URM/AA with a 3.11c and 3.67s?

no mcat as of yet but I plan to take it this year.

**If it's worth mentioning I also have an engineering degree and lots of work experience as an engineer
 
jedi silva said:
Any advice for a non-trad URM/AA with a 3.11c and 3.67s?

no mcat as of yet but I plan to take it this year.

**If it's worth mentioning I also have an engineering degree and lots of work experience as an engineer
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chances for a DO acceptance are good as long as you don't bomb the MCAT.

Honestly, you probably have some shot at MD with 24+ (or equivalent?) due to URM status and the science GPA.
 
user3 said:
chances for a DO acceptance are good as long as you don't bomb the MCAT.

Honestly, you probably have some shot at MD with 24+ (or equivalent?) due to URM status and the science GPA.
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To be honest, for MD, s/he'd probably need at least a 28 with that cGPA. But I'm no expert.

Edit: I take that back. S/he'd probably have a good shot at a HBCU.
 
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Hmmmm....LizzyM score of ~62. By comparison:

US median for MD acceptees = 3.6 + 31 = 67

U VA = 3.9 + 36 = 75
Rosy Franklin = 3.8 + 32 = 70
Loma Linda = 3.8 + 31 = 69
Albany = 3.6+ 32 = 68
LSU-NO = 3.8 + 30 = 68
EVMS = 3.6 + 32 = 68
VCU = 3.7 + 31 = 68
Drexel = 3.7 + 31 = 68
U ND, U SD 3.8 + 29 = 67
U AR= 3.7 + 29 = 66
Mercer = 3.6 + 29 = 65
Howard = 3.4 + 27 = 61


user3 said:
AACOM has released new data for this year's matriculating class. MCAT scores showed a significant increase.

Average total GPA's (UG + PB + Grad):

3.53 overall
3.46 science

Average MCAT:
27.21 (up 0.34 from last year)

17,944 individuals submitted applications for 6,465 spots (TCOM not included in this data).

http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2014_Mat.pdf?sfvrsn=8
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medic86 said:
To be honest, for MD, s/he'd probably need at least a 28 with that cGPA. But I'm no expert.

Edit: I take that back. S/he'd probably have a good shot at a HBCU.
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He'd have a good shot at a lot of places, not just HBCU.
 
Goro said:
Hmmmm....LizzyM score of ~62. By comparison:

US median for MD acceptees = 3.6 + 31 = 67

U VA = 3.9 + 36 = 75
Rosy Franklin = 3.8 + 32 = 70
Loma Linda = 3.8 + 31 = 69
Albany = 3.6+ 32 = 68
LSU-NO = 3.8 + 30 = 68
EVMS = 3.6 + 32 = 68
VCU = 3.7 + 31 = 68
Drexel = 3.7 + 31 = 68
U ND, U SD 3.8 + 29 = 67
U AR= 3.7 + 29 = 66
Mercer = 3.6 + 29 = 65
Howard = 3.4 + 27 = 61
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EVMS states their average is a 3.44 on their website! Though it is possible that it is not up to date.
 
MD schools vacuum up all the higher stat students. The demographics of DO students tend to be high GPA + avg MCAT = 27 OR high MCAT+ avg GPA = 3.53. DO schools seem to have Deans that like a high GPA and don't care about MCAT, or like a high MCAT, and don't care about the GPA!

So the two balance out, yielding the stats user3 shows in the OP. MD schools, having a sellers market, corner the high GPA/high MCAT people first.

Higher stat students prefer the MD degree. Note that this is becoming less of a trend, as the DO stats have been creeping up over the past several years.

Based upon a good chunk of my students, DO students tend to have more non-trads among them, who do post-bacs or SMPs. So these kids may have a spectacular 1-2 year rising trend, but not strong enough to raise the cGPA up into the 3.6 range.


songl4a said:
How come DO schools tend to have lower average GPAs, especially with the grade replacement policy.
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@Goro

How do adcoms and deans look at high GPAs at the post-bacc level (like a 3.9+ or even a 4.0)?

Or do the only stats that matter are the final sciGPA and the final cumulative including the post-bacc?
 
Goro said:
MD schools vacuum up all the higher stat students. The demographics of DO students tend to be high GPA + avg MCAT = 27 OR high MCAT+ avg GPA = 3.53. DO schools seem to have Deans that like a high GPA and don't care about MCAT, or like a high MCAT, and don't care about the GPA!

So the two balance out, yielding the stats user3 shows in the OP. MD schools, having a sellers market, corner the high GPA/high MCAT people first.

Higher stat students prefer the MD degree. Note that this is becoming less of a trend, as the DO stats have been creeping up over the past several years.

Based upon a good chunk of my students, DO students tend to have more non-trads among them, who do post-bacs or SMPs. So these kids may have a spectacular 1-2 year rising trend, but not strong enough to raise the cGPA up into the 3.6 range.
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If I did a 2 semester post-bacc (~25 total semester hours) taking hard sciences and got all As, my GPA would go up from a 3.5x cGPA and 3.85 sGPA to a 3.62 cGPA and 3.9 sGPA.

Hmmm... that may be something for me to do during my application cycle.
 
jedi silva said:
Any advice for a non-trad URM/AA with a 3.11c and 3.67s?

no mcat as of yet but I plan to take it this year.

**If it's worth mentioning I also have an engineering degree and lots of work experience as an engineer
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GPAs are fine. If you get even close to average on the MCAT (25 or ~500), I'd apply broadly to MD schools (not just HBCUs, broadly).

medic86 said:
With a 3.1 overall and a 24 MCAT?
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URM AA average is like 3.2-3.3/24 for MD matriculants if I recall correctly, so their chances would be pretty good.

DetectiveAlonzo said:
@Goro

How do adcoms and deans look at high GPAs at the post-bacc level (like a 3.9+ or even a 4.0)?

Or do the only stats that matter are the final sciGPA and the final cumulative including the post-bacc?
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This has got to be school dependant. That said, I applied with a very low undergrad GPA, but with 70+ credits of 3.8 post-bac and I was fine, despite a still low very cumulative GPA. I did have a high MCAT and lots of strong ECs though. This was also ~2.5 yrs ago.

The post-bac would definitely help regardless if you have a low GPA. Either way I'd apply early and broadly, some schools react very differently, and its generally hard to predict.

medic86 said:
If I did a 2 semester post-bacc (~25 total semester hours) taking hard sciences and got all As, my GPA would go up from a 3.5x cGPA and 3.85 sGPA to a 3.62 cGPA and 3.9 sGPA.

Hmmm... that may be something for me to do during my application cycle.
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Not worth it at all for you. Your GPAs are already above average for every DO school. Barely 0.1 difference for 1 year of classes and tuition. You'd be better off taking extra time to boost your MCAT by a few points.

Grade replacement is worth it for people who have a major deficit in their GPAs where a semester or year of retakes will bring them up by at least 0.2-0.3.
 
hallowmann said:
Not worth it at all for you. Your GPAs are already above average for every DO school. Barely 0.1 difference for 1 year of classes and tuition. You'd be better off taking extra time to boost your MCAT by a few points.

Grade replacement is worth it for people who have a major deficit in their GPAs where a semester or year of retakes will bring them up by at least 0.2-0.3.
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I apologize - my post was a little out of context. That option was only if I decide not to apply to DO programs (which is unlikely).

The only thing I don't like about DO is having to study for two boards. :bigtears:
 
medic86 said:
I apologize - my post was a little out of context. That option was only if I decide not to apply to DO programs (which is unlikely).

The only thing I don't like about DO is having to study for two boards. :bigtears:
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I still stand by the initial statement. 0.05-0.1 increase in GPA is barely noticeable, even to MD adcoms. A 2-3 point jump in MCAT, something most people could do in less than a year (obviously depending on where you're starting), is noticeable.
 
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