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Why does everyone hate this school?? I’m actually thinking of not submitting my secondary here at this point.
i think bc its new, and is based in a hospital system, its not as "efficient" as other med schools. however, hackensack is a great hospital system in nj, and it has a primary care scholars program, so imo its worth giving it a shot !Why does everyone hate this school?? I’m actually thinking of not submitting my secondary here at this point.
I don't think everyone hates it. My daughter just started and she is really liking it so far. And as her parents, we were super impressed with all the sentiments shared at the White Coat ceremony. The facilities are also amazing.Why does everyone hate this school?? I’m actually thinking of not submitting my secondary here at this point.
Thank you for sharing your experience 🫶🏾Final thought: I’m not writing this out of bitterness or because I didn’t get into med school—I did. In fact, I was accepted to three programs, and my orientation starts tomorrow. I’m going to be a doctor. But I still felt compelled to share this experience because, even with multiple acceptances, it left a strong impression on me as my dream school. I think it’s important for other applicants to hear about it.
I speak negatively about this school because of how it treats applicants. I have no comments about the student experience because of course I was rejected and wasn’t able to have that experience. So maybe my comment has less weight than the parent above, who knows.
But what I can say is if you’re ok with no post-II R’s, meaning after you’re interviewed everyone is put on the waitlist, then by all means apply. They don’t reject you if you’ve interviewed until first day of orientation. And they interview a lot of people, just look at the stats. So you’re competing with a lot of people on this BS “waitlist.” Not to mention that they never give you any updates, even if you ask, and apparently it’s not ranked even tho it most certainly is. They lie straight to your face. And the admissions committee does not communicate with the admissions department (the people who answer the phone) AT ALL. So a lot of times you’re just have to take an “i don’t know” for an answer. So take that as you will. If you’re a stellar applicant then by all means apply, but if you’re someone like me with mid level stats and great experiences, this school has a high likelihood of leaving you disappointed with delayed closure. And there were many people in my position, just look at last cycle’s SDN thread. And I private messaged a lot of people who were similar to me.
I put everything on the line for this school. I sent multiple letters of interest. I even had a health scare and interviewed while on 80mg of prednisone after 4 sleepless nights in the hospital, something which I’m sure affected interview performance and my nerves. And I toured shortly after that despite all the craziness in my life and medical advice not to hop on a plane across the country. I will agree with the parent above that the facilities are amazing.
I really was all in on this school. I put in the effort, I showed genuine passion because this was my dream school. And also something which the school showed no regard for. I wasn’t asking for a sob story in mentioning this, more to highlight my resilience which was not even acknowledged.
The interviewer I had was incredibly unfair. I interviewed at 5 total schools in my cycle, and this was the least engaging interview by far. It was firing off questions 1 by 1 with no effort to actually get to know me. No enthusiasm. The 4 other programs felt like a conversation, this was far from that. I could tell my interviewer had somewhere to be and couldn’t be bothered to waste their time. And I knew that they were busy because my interview was rescheduled for a very fishy reason. So take that as you will as well.
All in all, this is just my story, and I just want people to know that this school is incredibly disrespectful compared to the other schools I applied to, and I have a large sample size to prove it. I applied to 55 programs. This was by far the worst experience. But through all that I stuck to the last day because I wanted to go here so badly. And I was left with nothing in the end.
You could chalk it up to me overcommunicating with them (which the admissions staff assured me I wasn’t doing), or never being competitive in the first place, but regardless they wasted my time either way. And they will likely waste yours. Sorry for the long message but just wanted to share my honest thoughts with you all.
Edit: Feel free to message me directly if you have any questions.
Just got mine today 30 minutes ago!has anyone else received an email saying their application is complete?
when did u submit! congrats!Just got mine today 30 minutes ago!
primary verified july 16when did u submit! congrats!
i got mine today and submitted 7/25 ! <3has anyone else received an email saying their application is complete?
kk i submitted 07.29! thanks!i got mine today and submitted 7/25 ! <3
I am also waiting on a secondary despite being verified very early in the cycle. I sent them an email yesterday but have yet to receive a responseI still have not received a secondary (verified in June). Anyone else? Should I email them?
I also got this email again, not sure whyThis school resent their secondary invite to me even though I already made my account w the first invite. This is the second school that has done this, anyone know why?
There is only one poster who keeps coming back to complain about this program. While their experience is valid, they are writing like this school is the only one that keeps applicants in the dark. What Hackensack does is no different than most MD programs in the US and demanding them to be transparent isn't going to change anything. Calling to ask questions or get updates is not a given in this process and there are plenty of other schools that place applicants in waitlist purgatory for months with no decision until orientation. The entire system is broken, so don't let that stop you from applying to a program because in the end, they are all the same. Make it better when you get in, that is really all you can do.Why does everyone hate this school?? I’m actually thinking of not submitting my secondary here at this point.
I don’t think this is a problem specific to this school. So many schools keep students in the waitlist limbo. Based on 2023 stats, the gave out 653 interviews and accepted 543 people. That is a 83% post II acceptance rate. This is straight from the Hackensack Meridian SOM databook they have online. So yea, while they may be waitlisting vast majority after a II, ultimately 83% interview r accepted. I think that is a very good reason to apply… if u don’t get an interview oh well but if u do u have good chances at getting an A.I speak negatively about this school because of how it treats applicants. I have no comments about the student experience because of course I was rejected and wasn’t able to have that experience. So maybe my comment has less weight than the parent above, who knows.
But what I can say is if you’re ok with no post-II R’s, meaning after you’re interviewed everyone is put on the waitlist, then by all means apply. They don’t reject you if you’ve interviewed until first day of orientation. And they interview a lot of people, just look at the stats. So you’re competing with a lot of people on this BS “waitlist.” Not to mention that they never give you any updates, even if you ask, and apparently it’s not ranked even tho it most certainly is. They lie straight to your face. And the admissions committee does not communicate with the admissions department (the people who answer the phone) AT ALL. So a lot of times you’re just have to take an “i don’t know” for an answer. So take that as you will. If you’re a stellar applicant then by all means apply, but if you’re someone like me with mid level stats and great experiences, this school has a high likelihood of leaving you disappointed with delayed closure. And there were many people in my position, just look at last cycle’s SDN thread. And I private messaged a lot of people who were similar to me.
I put everything on the line for this school. I sent multiple letters of interest. I even had a health scare and interviewed while on 80mg of prednisone after 4 sleepless nights in the hospital, something which I’m sure affected interview performance and my nerves. And I toured shortly after that despite all the craziness in my life and medical advice not to hop on a plane across the country. I will agree with the parent above that the facilities are amazing.
I really was all in on this school. I put in the effort, I showed genuine passion because this was my dream school. And also something which the school showed no regard for. I wasn’t asking for a sob story in mentioning this, more to highlight my resilience which was not even acknowledged.
The interviewer I had was incredibly unfair. I interviewed at 5 total schools in my cycle, and this was the least engaging interview by far. It was firing off questions 1 by 1 with no effort to actually get to know me. No enthusiasm. The 4 other programs felt like a conversation, this was far from that. I could tell my interviewer had somewhere to be and couldn’t be bothered to waste their time. And I knew that they were busy because my interview was rescheduled for a very fishy reason. So take that as you will as well.
All in all, this is just my story, and I just want people to know that this school is incredibly disrespectful compared to the other schools I applied to, and I have a large sample size to prove it. I applied to 55 programs. This was by far the worst experience. But through all that I stuck to the last day because I wanted to go here so badly. And I was left with nothing in the end.
You could chalk it up to me overcommunicating with them (which the admissions staff assured me I wasn’t doing), or never being competitive in the first place, but regardless they wasted my time either way. And they will likely waste yours. Sorry for the long message but just wanted to share my honest thoughts with you all.
Edit: Feel free to message me directly if you have any questions.
Where do you see stats for the number of students that a program accepts? MSAR only has the number of matriculants, is there some other source you're using?I don’t think this is a problem specific to this school. So many schools keep students in the waitlist limbo. Based on 2023 stats, the gave out 653 interviews and accepted 543 people. That is a 83% post II acceptance rate. This is straight from the Hackensack Meridian SOM databook they have online. So yea, while they may be waitlisting vast majority after a II, ultimately 83% interview r accepted. I think that is a very good reason to apply… if u don’t get an interview oh well but if u do u have good chances at getting an A.
Where do you see stats for the number of students that a program accepts? MSAR only has the number of matriculants, is there some other source you're using?
That’s up to you to do your research on and figure out instead of relying on the experiences of a single applicant.So… is this school a red flag & avoid or..?
Exactly !!That’s up to you to do your research on and figure out instead of relying on the experiences of a single applicant.
It took like 12 days from when I got sent the received email to getting the “preliminary review complete email” and now it’s in the holistic review phase. I think the preliminary review is just looking at if you meet their technical criteria.Anyone who submit their secondary know how long it took to me marked complete? HMSOM does letter of review checks and prereq checks???
There is usually not a limit, however, make sure your updates are significant and planed out well (ie if you have two papers in review, wait until both have a decision before updating) so you don't come across as spamming their portal.i see an option on the portal to submit an update letter, but does anyone know if they have a limit of how many you can submit? I can't find any info about update letters on their website
Yea, it takes them a long while to review all your materials to send to admissions committeei submitted 08/05, it still says pending review is this normal?
If your app is currently marked incomplete most schools will not offer you an II, but some still do. However, without that requirement you will not be granted an A. Best advice is to try and get a letter together (it can be generic even) before the end of the cycle.I received an email saying my application was marked incomplete because I don’t have a physician/clinical LoR. I don’t think I can scramble together a letter this last minute and I unfortunately didn’t know they had this requirement. Should I just wait and see if they still consider me or should I withdraw my application?
Same submitted 7/28Hmmm i submitted on 07/29, still no confirmation