21 and MD

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According to the AAMC MSQ, 0.2% of medical school matriculants are under age 20 when they start. That's like 25 people per year!
 
Sho Yano has two publications. The earlier one is from undergrad work. The later from his PhD. This work obviously led him onto the path towards pediatric neurology and will serve him well in future research in pediatric neurology.

A phage-encoded inhibitor of Escherichia coli DNA replication targets the DNA polymerase clamp loader.
Yano ST, Rothman-Denes LB. Mol Microbiol. 2011 Mar;79(5):1325-38.

Diaspora, a large family of Ty3-gypsy retrotransposons in Glycine max, is an envelope-less member of an endogenous plant retrovirus lineage.
Yano ST, Panbehi B, Das A, Laten HM. BMC Evol Biol. 2005 May 5;5:30.
 
lol, just saw this. Makes me feel horrible about complaining any class is hard.
Graduating college at 9 and entering med school at 12!!!!
crazy impressive stuff.
 
Mount Sinai still holds the record at age 17. Anyways, is it standard for medical students at that school to wear long white coats? I just say a interview with him and he was wearing one (or did he already begin residency?).

I'd love to hear nicknaylor's thoughts on this guy (via PM if he prefers).
 
mmmcdowe said:
Mount Sinai still holds the record at age 17. Anyways, is it standard for medical students at that school to wear long white coats? I just say a interview with him and he was wearing one (or did he already begin residency?).

I'd love to hear nicknaylor's thoughts on this guy (via PM if he prefers).
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Why did nicknaylor also graduate at a young age?
 
Ugh...and here I am struggling with studying for the MCAT at 21! He must think my life is pathetic! LMAO
 
recipe for a midlife crisis. Never having a young childhood and being robbed out of his late teens as well as all his 20s.


Not the life for me.



Pediatric neurology...? Not impressed. You'd think his parents would push him for mass general plastics or rad onc.
 
3v0 said:
lol, just saw this. Makes me feel horrible about complaining any class is hard.
Graduating college at 9 and entering med school at 12!!!!
crazy impressive stuff.
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He didn't graduate at 9, he entered at 9. Come on, he isn't that impressive. It's not like he's a black belt or an accomplished pianist. Wait...
 
I don'y think any amount of parent pressure can produce a 21 yo MD/PhD unless the kid actually wants to do it. He wasn't robbed of his childhood, he just chose to do something different with his. The fact that he's going for neurology over a high paying or more "prestigious" field should be proof that it's due to his own interests.
 
There is no greater resolution for High Expectation Asian Dad.
 
his sister is a genius type also, she graduated college at the age of 15 and is going to john hopkins to get a second B.A. how is it possible for both of them to be geniuses? we need to extract and test their parents dna because they have a gold mine.
 
In Europe most students get their MD at 21. This is nothing special, just shows you how inefficient our educational system is.
 
Shnurek said:
In Europe most students get their MD at 21. This is nothing special, just shows you how inefficient our educational system is.
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And clearly that is working out for their healthcare system...:laugh:
 
Ironmandoc said:
And clearly that is working out for their healthcare system...:laugh:
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don't go there. It is well-known that the health care in Europe is better than the one here. And the proof is in the WHO ranking.
 
Holy FranZ said:
recipe for a midlife crisis. Never having a young childhood and being robbed out of his late teens as well as all his 20s.


Not the life for me.



Pediatric neurology...? Not impressed. You'd think his parents would push him for mass general plastics or rad onc.
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You're an idiot "Not impressed" really? What do you have that can even be compared to all of his achievements? By talking sh#t and not actually achieving anything, you proving your self to be not impressive and even worthless
 
lobo12 said:
don't go there. It is well-known that the health care in Europe is better than the one here. And the proof is in the WHO ranking.
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Their healthcare is better than us not because their doctors are better than ours but because their government actually took time to create a healthcare system that affordable and not pressured and stressed their doctors out with paperwork and lawsuit. You are proving that you know next to nothing by thinking that their doctors are have equal knowledge as ours when they graduated at 21. Do you honestly think that they can shove all those knowledge in with that much time? We have the best doctors in the world but we also have the most horrible healthcare system.
 
Holy FranZ said:
Pediatric neurology...? Not impressed. You'd think his parents would push him for mass general plastics or rad onc.
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Do you sincerely think plastic surgery is more impressive than pediatric neurology? Some enter medicine to cure while others plant fake noses and count cash.
 
There are some things you can't learn in a textbook...just sayin'
 
Sonny881994 said:
Their healthcare is better than us not because their doctors are better than ours but because their government actually took time to create a healthcare system that affordable and not pressured and stressed their doctors out with paperwork and lawsuit. You are proving that you know next to nothing by thinking that their doctors are have equal knowledge as ours when they graduated at 21. Do you honestly think that they can shove all those knowledge in with that much time? We have the best doctors in the world but we also have the most horrible healthcare system.
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I spent 3 years shoving Kantian ethics and Electromagnetism and the Periodic table into my brain for my BS... Not sure how those will help me treat diabetic smokers in the outpatient clinic.

The majority of things you learn in college has nothing to do with medicine and everything to do with providing you with a broad education and becoming a better person (supposedly).
 
chronicidal said:
Sho Yano has two publications. The earlier one is from undergrad work. The later from his PhD. This work obviously led him onto the path towards pediatric neurology and will serve him well in future research in pediatric neurology.

A phage-encoded inhibitor of Escherichia coli DNA replication targets the DNA polymerase clamp loader.
Yano ST, Rothman-Denes LB. Mol Microbiol. 2011 Mar;79(5):1325-38.

Diaspora, a large family of Ty3-gypsy retrotransposons in Glycine max, is an envelope-less member of an endogenous plant retrovirus lineage.
Yano ST, Panbehi B, Das A, Laten HM. BMC Evol Biol. 2005 May 5;5:30.
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1 first author publication = PhD? Wow, he got off easy from his PI and committee - must be because he is a kid.
 
Wait a min- just because these kids can earn medical degrees and PhD's at such a young age doesn't necessarily mean they should right?

Seems a little strange
 
lobo12 said:
don't go there. It is well-known that the health care in Europe is better than the one here. And the proof is in the WHO ranking.
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More fat people = worst health = more strain on healthcare system.

Yes, maybe their system is better for overall health of the nation -- but i'm sure the american lifestyle would crap on their system too (especially if everythings free).


Sonny881994 said:
You're an idiot "Not impressed" really? What do you have that can even be compared to all of his achievements? By talking sh#t and not actually achieving anything, you proving your self to be not impressive and even worthless
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lol, you mad?

Give me a few years and i'll get back to you. 😉
 
CaliGirl14 said:
There are some things you can't learn in a textbook...just sayin'
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That's why they have novels, just sayin'

😛

PS you're inferring (my opinion) that he's socially inept. From what I've seen the past 15 min, he is a brilliant, sociable, even jovial young man!
 
Porfirio said:
1 first author publication = PhD? Wow, he got off easy from his PI and committee - must be because he is a kid.
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Or because he was entolled in a MD/PhD program. When the average time for a normal PhD to finish is more than 5 years and the average time for an MD/PhD is 3 years you're going to see a big difference in the number of publications.
 
mmmcdowe said:
Mount Sinai still holds the record at age 17. Anyways, is it standard for medical students at that school to wear long white coats? I just say a interview with him and he was wearing one (or did he already begin residency?).

I'd love to hear nicknaylor's thoughts on this guy (via PM if he prefers).
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We are given long white coats. It's supposed to symbolize the fact that we're a legitimate part of the medical team (in theory) and that our patients will see us as doctors even though we aren't.

(sent from my phone - please forgive typos and brevity)
 
Sounds like a smart guy, idk about all the "genius" hype. I prefer to judge someone based on the quality of his/her work, not on age, race, gender, etc. Show me some of his papers, etc and then I might be more in awe. Being young doesn't automatically mean being better.

But good for him-Chicago's a great school and he certainly has a bright (and long...) career ahead of him.
 
ur2l8 said:
That's why they have novels, just sayin'

😛

PS you're inferring (my opinion) that he's socially inept. From what I've seen the past 15 min, he is a brilliant, sociable, even jovial young man!
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No.
 
I wouldn't trade my childhood to be in his shoes though. The experiences I had are amazing and I don't think I would have experienced them if I were a robot like that kid lol.
 
Perrotfish said:
Or because he was entolled in a MD/PhD program. When the average time for a normal PhD to finish is more than 5 years and the average time for an MD/PhD is 3 years you're going to see a big difference in the number of publications.
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He apparently took 5 years for his PhD though, if he started in 2003 at age 12 and is finishing in 2012 at age 21.

Not impressed.

😉
 
mmmcdowe said:
Getting a PhD has little to do with the number of pubs.
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Sadly, this is becoming truer. Any program that awards a PhD for 1 publication (non-Nature/Science quality work) is only "watering down" the degree. I wonder if he went to any conferences, gave presentations at conferences, or even did any peer-review. It is unfortunate to not even see any review papers written by him.
 
He's probably gonna have his first beer celebrating his MD/PhD, haha. oh geez.
 
I'm actually more impressed with him entering med school at 12... that must've taken a lot of discipline and definitely some amount of "genius."
 
TheProwler said:
He apparently took 5 years for his PhD though, if he started in 2003 at age 12 and is finishing in 2012 at age 21.

Not impressed.

😉
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The rumor around these parts is that he had to be of a certain age before he was allowed into the hospital. The PhD program was more of a productive way to "hold him," if that makes sense, until he was able to be in the hospital. That would also explain why it took him so long.
 
NickNaylor said:
The rumor around these parts is that he had to be of a certain age before he was allowed into the hospital. The PhD program was more of a productive way to "hold him," if that makes sense, until he was able to be in the hospital. That would also explain why it took him so long.
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Were you guys in any of the same classes in med school?
 
NickNaylor said:
The rumor around these parts is that he had to be of a certain age before he was allowed into the hospital. The PhD program was more of a productive way to "hold him," if that makes sense, until he was able to be in the hospital. That would also explain why it took him so long.
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They didn't want a 13-year old learning the breast/pelvic exams on a standardized patient? I wonder what kind of legal precedent exists on that.

I, for one, would have loved to let a 14-year old check to see if my wife were dilated and then deliver my firstborn. Cough cough, awkward pause.
 
TheProwler said:
They didn't want a 13-year old learning the breast/pelvic exams on a standardized patient? I wonder what kind of legal precedent exists on that.

I, for one, would have loved to let a 14-year old check to see if my wife were dilated and then deliver my firstborn. Cough cough, awkward pause.
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That's basically what the article said:

"According to the Chicago Tribune, he completed his first year of medical school, got his Ph.D. in molecular genetics and cell biology and then pursued the rest of medical school so that he'd be at least 18 when it came time to work with patients."

And lol at anyone who says he isn't a genius:

"Yano was reportedly reading by the age of 2, writing by the age of 3 and composing music by 5. At the age of 8, he scored a 1,500 out of 1,600 on the SAT."
 
TheProwler said:
They didn't want a 13-year old learning the breast/pelvic exams on a standardized patient? I wonder what kind of legal precedent exists on that.

I, for one, would have loved to let a 14-year old check to see if my wife were dilated and then deliver my firstborn. Cough cough, awkward pause.
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:laugh:
 
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