A. Caveman making comments that can be misunderstood as offensive

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Look- this is the bottom line and i'd rather not post after this. Cavey (however unreasonably) thought this guy was dumb for not knowing what a URM was. He chose to mess with this new guy saying URM mean "You are a *****" and that this new guy was a URM- which meant cave says this guy is a *****. Cave made NO references to the ACTUAL meaning of URM- in his post URM means "You are a *****". YOU (original and jmeija) inferred (incorrectly) that the post then meant: Underrepresented Minorities are *****s. If you don't understand that (and original has his own agenda to bash cavey wherever possible due to past slams) that's YOUR problem. The end --Trek

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Yes Original, by "IT" he was referring to his defined meaning of. The person who asked the question should not have known what the "true" definition of a URM is without asking. Caveman should have just told him rather than scold him, hence me and others saying that it was an inappropriate joke that should never have been said.
 
Well said Trek, my sentiments exactly.
 
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OK, OK. Caveman meant one thing, the quote means something else. Enough!
Facts are:
1. Caveman wrote something that people took offense to.
2. Caveman explained that he did not mean it to be offensive.
3. People are still offended by the statement.

It seems to me that Caveman now has two choices:
1. Recognize that his post may have been offensive and appologize.
2. Adamantly deny that he was offensive and arrogantly refuse to appologize for any offense that was a result of the post.

What kind of man is caveman? Judging from his posts I will guess he will choose number 2. I hope he proves me wrong.
 
LAST CALL . . . GOING ONCE . . . GOING TWICE . .. GOING GOING . . . [10 minutes until I delete the thread]
 
jmejia1- This discussion is interesting and mostly civil. I would appreciate if you would not delete it.
 
Since two members requested that I do not delete the post, I will leave it open. The reason why I considered closing it was mainly twofold:
1.) Threads on Race tend to turn ugly
2.) And it may have been unfair to A. Cavemen
to have a thread depicting him as blunt racists, eventhough that's still my opinion

However, I've since changed the title of the thread to slightly make it less bold.
 
I am totally astounded as why caveman would write the original post to begin with. Like a previous poster said that new people to the message board may not have every acronym in their vocabulary bank. I for one remember not knowing what URM stood for and I'm glad I was able to figure it out on my own. Had I been a URM and asked and got caveman's response I would have been disappointed to think that some jerk like that is going to be my colleague one day. I hope you learned your lesson and realize you don't attract to many flies being so full of piss and vinegar.

Caveman - I challenge you to be the better man and do NUMBER 1 from the above poster's choices. 1. Recognize that his post may have been offensive and appologize.
Show that you are a compassionate person underneath all that thick skin (fyi: the integument makes up 30% of total body weight)
 
I haven't posted anything about this because I usually do not get involved in such debates. However, I have to say that A. Caveman's posts are insensitive, abrasive, arrogant, frustratingly ignorant, and downright obnoxious the majority of the time, and his above posts on this thread are no exception. He is completely missing the point that his words, whatever his intentions, were inflammatory and could be interpreted as examples of racist remarks. There is quite a distinction between being "open and honest" and downright ignorant. His remarks are extremely irresponsible in themselves. What is even more irresponsible is his inability to apologize for offending people and utter disregard for respecting the opinions, questions, and thoughts of others. Quite frankly, it's sad to see that SDN is mutating into what TPR used to be, because of infiltration by ruthless, noncaring individuals who have no concern for others.

The moderators should really step in and clean up this mess.
 
Geez, lighten up people. If you've been reading caveman's posts you'd know it was sarcasm; I don't know anyone who would be serious about something like that...so LIGHTEN UP, jmejia1!!!

Joe
 
OK..I'll say it again..it was a joke. Some of you people take the whole political correctness and sensitivy thing way too far. What are you going to do if you ever hear your attending make an "insensitive" comment? Report him or her? I think not. I for one won't go through life walking on eggshells just to appease people's sensitivities. Yes, I am aware and do my best effort not to be offending; I don't make racial, ethnic, or religious slurs. But I'm not going to constantly screen every word I say because it could possibly offend one person out there. There IS a difference in being offended by a true derogatory comment and being offended at every little off-the-cuff comment. That's being over-sensitive.
 
FYI, that infamous post was under:

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I was the first to read it, and I wasn't sure how to take Caveman, but I just jokingly responded to it late last night giving him the benefit of the doubt. Imagine my surprise when I was just catching up on the messages!
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by jmejia1:

Last count, I think A. Cavemen called me about six differnt adjectives, all refering to me as an "idiot" in his reply. Obviously, I wasn't the only one to feel his initial comment was tasteless. "If you don't know what one is, you most me one" How in the hell can this not be an open insult to URMs? I can take saracasm, and even if you smiled and laughed saying that, I would think its an insult. I'm not the stupid one, if anything, you simply need help in presenting humor.[/QB]••••HA! i am very impressed. when i have made sly little comments in the past, i always thought people got it, smirked a little, but moved on because it wasn't that funny. now i'm beginning to think some people just read my comments and move on without understanding them. and that is very disappointing. once again dude, when i said "you must be one" i meant he must be a URM in the way i defined it for him. can you understand that plainly enough? meaning he's a *****. i also understood completely that HE would know i'm giving him the wrong definition, and understand that i'm not REALLY calling him a *****. but it wasn't exactly a nice, helpful comment either. it was a little stab as i walked past him, without breaking my stride. now if i'd stopped, squared my sholders up on him, and told him that, he should be offended. but i was just messing around, teasing.

AND ALSO, i called you so many insults because you, you total SOB, took my words and tried to "expose" me 'on national television.' you shouldn't do that to people unless you're completely sure of something. wouldn't you expect me to be upset. by the way, i'm a minority too you dumb ****. so why would i rag on minorities?!!
(no, not an UNDERrepresented one, but still a minority, and i share some of the same feelings). freaking *****aso!
 
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by Joseph Reses:
•Geez, lighten up people. •••••I'm happy for you that you can find humor in A.Caveman's racist remarks. I didn't think it was very funny, but then to each his own. :)
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by charleb32:
•I'm not going to get into the racist debate, but in reagrd to the original question asked, many new pre-meds (juniors) are now starting to enter the board for next year, that is probably who asked the question. Therefore, at this point they would have no reason to know what a URM is. I think we all should think before we type, because I'm sure that A. Caveman didn't condider this fact when he was being so clever.•••••yes i DID. i decided to ignore that fact, since i thought most people wouldn't look at the number of posts the guy had (giving away that he was somewhat new). so i figured most people that read it would laugh. yes, i considered it, and took it to the next level. what do you take me for?? a freaking troglodyte?
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Joseph Reses:
•What are you going to do if you ever hear your attending make an "insensitive" comment? •••••In the medical field, as in life, you will hear insensitive, rude, thoughtless, subtle and not-so-subtle racist comments. The point is that as a physician, you will be required to listen to your patients and respond to their questions or concerns with sensitivity and compassion. Calling someone a "*****" because they don't know what "URM" stands for is not exactly what I would call intelligent, sensitive, or compassionate. People on this forum have a right to criticize or rebut remarks such as those Caveman made and since it is a premedical site, I am glad to see that aspiring physicians find his remarks hurtful and disparaging and are actively voicing their opinions on the issue. Remember, what one does and says DOES affect other people, like it or not.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by A. Caveman:
• by the way, i'm a minority too you dumb ****. so why would i rag on minorities?!!
(no, not an UNDERrepresented one, but still a minority, and i share some of the same feelings). freaking *****aso!•••••Pathetic! No one said you ragged on minorities. And I strongly suggest you drop that abrasive behavior and speech fast.
 
Actually Cavey, I take you for an insensitive, arrogant, and extremely abrasive racist who should not be even bother to apply to med school. Dude, i hope u dont make some sarcastic comments to ur future patients and then explain to them that it was a "joke".....good luck with life buddy
 
I can see both sides here.

1. A Caveman believes he was being sarcastic and did not think that post would be interpreted any differently. His intent was to show whoever asked what a URM was that it was common knowledge here. He just didn't do it in a nice way. It took me a while to figure out what a URM was when I first came to SDN, but I got it on my own. I don't think he thought his post would be misinterpreted, but it was.

2. Some people did not see the post as a sarcastic play on words and took offense. Yes I can see how this happened. If you keep in mind the real definition of a URM while reading his comment, it is racist. However, if you remove the real definition from your mind and only see Cave's posted definition, it's not. It's just rude.

I admit when I first saw this thread, that I thought Cave's post was racist, but I now see how it was intended not to be. I don't think he should apologize for his opinon though. People in real life are going to say things that offend you and not apologize for it. Yes it's hurtful, but you can't whine and cry about it every time it happens. It eventually makes you as despicable as the rude/ignorant/whatever person. It's hard to swallow your pride and just take it, but your attending will PIMP you rudely and you will have to take it.

However before anyone goes in a tizzy over that. I am not condoning racism when it is meant to be racism. My family is pretty racist. I grew up hearing my dad, brothers, and stepdad say the n word and other colorful phrases describing other races. Heck, when I lived it Georgia it even went so far as for one of my brothers to look into joining the KKK. He's an idiot. I think racism is ignorance in one of its purest forms. I am saying that if you are offended in a situation, it is often best to grit your teeth. But that's me.

I think what needs to happen here is for you guys to agree to disagree. But I do like this discussion. It has been very interesting.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Original:
•I can't believe that almost half the people that have responded here think it was o.k for A.Caveman to post a "Joke" saying being a URM means "you are a *****". If anyone can't see how extremely racist such a joke is then it's just a damn shame. If you think it's o.k to make racist remarks, or even worse, racist jokes, then you need to check yourself ASAP. This is disheartening to say the least. For A.Caveman, I hope you get into med school, but I also hope you change drastically in the way you interact with people in general.

BTW I'm not a URM, and hopefully not a ***** either.•••••original, buddy, i didn't think "man URM's are dumb people" and then think "oh this guy wants to know what a URM is..let me call him a ***** since it sounds funny." NO, i first decided to tease the guy, then at the same time it came to me that interpreting it as "you are *****" seems to make some sense, so it might be plausible. what i'm saying, is that i don't harbor any thoughts about URM's being dumb. i find it pretty AWESOME that i am being called a racist, when i fight that ****ing **** so much everyday. not because people are racist to me (because they're not--mostly) but mainly because i can sympathize and i wouldn't want to feel the way some minorities (ie. blacks) are made to feel. and it breaks my heart when during our brakes in class groups form and it's always the black kids in one group, separated from all the other kids (white, hispanic, asian, etc) in another group. i fight racism whenever i hear it. so this is pretty funny to me (although when i first saw the post it wasn't funny because i thought maybe some people would believe it).

as for the guy who said he wouldn't want me in his class...you don't know what you're talking about. if you had the world the way you'd like to have it..believe me..you'd like it to be filled by people just like me. i'm as sympathetic as you can get (without being a pushover). you can't claim to know me from reading my stuff here. this is just fun for me here...like trek insinuated..i'm not this blunt in person (not to strangers at least). and i know sometimes it can be hurtful to be so blunt..but this is a fun message board..let's have fun. let's argue and get riled up, and joke and everything else. :clap:
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by jmejia1:
•I'm not one to hold a public execution so I'll be deleting this thread in the next hour or so to give anyone else a chance to say anything.

Hey Trek, thanks for trying to explain the joke to me--Trust me: I understood it at many different levels. I'm really not stupid. The problem is that it has a double meaning, and the one meaning at least half of us see was tasteless and had racist connotations.

Hey, Cave I didn't mean to present the matter like I did (out in the open), so I apologize for that. Maybe I should've PMed you voicing my opinion on your comment.

If anything, I'm a little surprised, much like Original that not more than half of the replies didn't find the post offensive.

Anyway,•••••oops..maybe i shouldn't have tried to respond to individual comments one at a time..i should have read them all first. sorry about what i said just a few posts ago. i didnt' know you realized how cruel that was.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by DAL:
•Original-

If you look at it like that then yes, you see it as a racist comment. However, I do not think that is how Caveman intended. If you refer to the first page where he discusses acronyms and homonyms I believe you will see how I and others took his statement.

U = You
R = Are
M = *****

He meant it as a joke and said it with no real reference to the actual meaning of a URM. Yes, you can take that and see it as a racist comment. But after seeing Caveman talk about his actions further you should see how he actually meant for the statement to come across. Still, I do believe it was inappropriate, but do not believe he meant for it to be interpreted as a racist comment.•••••praise the lord, houston we've got contact. YES DAL, exactly. by the way guys, i almost felt like i was being too "explainative" when i typed that stuff. do you mean to tell me that if i hadn't spelled it out like i did on those early posts, that i'd have been branded as a racist? i thought the play on words was pretty obvious. i guess original will never get it. that's what friends are for though
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Kadyra:
•2. Some people did not see the post as a sarcastic play on words and took offense. Yes I can see how this happened. If you keep in mind the real definition of a URM while reading his comment, it is racist. However, if you remove the real definition from your mind and only see Cave's posted definition, it's not. It's just rude.

•••••I see what you're trying to say, but as I explained to DAL in a previous post, this explanation holds no water logically. A.Caveman said "If you haven't figured IT out by now, then you're definitely a URM". By "IT" if he meant the actual definition of URM, then your explanation falls apart. If on the other hand, he meant his own earlier definition of URM, then your arguement fails again for the following reason: His definition was not only deragatory, but also arcane (known to himself alone--hopefully) so it is highly unlikely that a new, inn0cent, inquisitive SDNer would have figured it out "already". :)
 
"It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt."
-I forget who said this... :D
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Coalboy:
• •••quote:•••Like I said previously, if there's any other way to look at it, I'm all up for enlightenment</font>•••Caveman first defined URM as "You are a *****," but not meaning that Underrepresented Minorities were *****s. In that last statement, using the first "definition", he was simply saying that if you don't know by now, you are a *****. Not "you are an underrepresented minority."

Again, bad judgement, not racism.•••••BANG, houston we have more contact. basically i said this exact same thing on page 5 before i read this post by you coalboy on page 3.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Original:
•DAL-
Let's take it from there. When he said "If you haven't figured IT out by now then you're definitely a URM", your analysis fell apart. According to you, by "IT" he was referring to his defined meaning of URM. Why should anyone have figured out something so arcane? :confused: •••••alright you rotting bag of filth (just being funny, no violence "connottateded." if you're gonna examine every word i used i'll spell that out too. did you ever find that when you're writing sentences, the word "it" fits in at many of the same places that the word "that" fits in? now try that sentence again. i swear, this argument is getting more and more ridiculous as i read on.
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by Trek:
• YOU (original and jmeija) inferred (incorrectly) that the post then meant: Underrepresented Minorities are *****s. If you don't understand that (and original has his own agenda to bash cavey wherever possible due to past slams) that's YOUR problem. The end --Trek•••••Trek you are very bright. i'm glad you noticed that about original AND more glad that you pointed it out. thanks
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by A. Caveman:
• •••quote:•••Originally posted by Trek:
• YOU (original and jmeija) inferred (incorrectly) that the post then meant: Underrepresented Minorities are *****s. If you don't understand that (and original has his own agenda to bash cavey wherever possible due to past slams) that's YOUR problem. The end --Trek•••••Trek you are very bright. i'm glad you noticed that about original AND more glad that you pointed it out. thanks•••••I'm proud to have a problem with you. I take that as a complement; it even makes me smile to be known as the antithesis of A.Caveman :) Though I'm not really there yet, still working on it.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by dlbruch:
•OK, OK. Caveman meant one thing, the quote means something else. Enough!
Facts are:
1. Caveman wrote something that people took offense to.
2. Caveman explained that he did not mean it to be offensive.
3. People are still offended by the statement.

It seems to me that Caveman now has two choices:
1. Recognize that his post may have been offensive and appologize.
2. Adamantly deny that he was offensive and arrogantly refuse to appologize for any offense that was a result of the post.

What kind of man is caveman? Judging from his posts I will guess he will choose number 2. I hope he proves me wrong.•••••DAMN, after all my arrogant responses i get to this gem. what an opportunity this would have been (had i found it sooner) to prove what a MAN i am. honestly..i'm still being attacked, and i'm not gonna let my guard down so i can get knocked out. but i will agree..it was a rude comment, but it was in fun (teasing IS fun damnit :) ..at least when it's done without going overboard). so do i still get to be the man that i am?

my definition of man encompasses integrity, honesty, and perseverance..I AM MAN (hear me roar)
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by dlbruch:
•jmejia1- This discussion is interesting and mostly civil. I would appreciate if you would not delete it.•••••thank you for givign me the opportunity to defend myself when i got home from school. AND thank you for providing over an hour's worth of entertainment for me.
:)
 
Six pages of replies in less than 24 hours on a topic that has nothing to do with acceptances/ rejections, dates...etc...

Amazing!

That guy's first mistake is trying to single out his frustrations by directing an entire topic to slamming someone who was making a joke (perhaps, not in the best of taste--sorry cave--but a joke nonetheless). :)
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by simpleton:
• I for one remember not knowing what URM stood for and I'm glad I was able to figure it out on my own. Had I been a URM and asked and got caveman's response I would have been disappointed to think that some jerk like that is going to be my colleague one day.•••••simpleton, it has nothign to do with the real definition of URM (once again!). so how would it have made you feel differently if you'd been a URM? hello? earth to simpleton..caveman's calling you and he wants his slinky back
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Vader:
•I haven't posted anything about this because I usually do not get involved in such debates. However, I have to say that A. Caveman's posts are insensitive, abrasive, arrogant, frustratingly ignorant, and downright obnoxious the majority of the time, and his above posts on this thread are no exception. He is completely missing the point that his words, whatever his intentions, were inflammatory and could be interpreted as examples of racist remarks. There is quite a distinction between being "open and honest" and downright ignorant. His remarks are extremely irresponsible in themselves. What is even more irresponsible is his inability to apologize for offending people and utter disregard for respecting the opinions, questions, and thoughts of others. Quite frankly, it's sad to see that SDN is mutating into what TPR used to be, because of infiltration by ruthless, noncaring individuals who have no concern for others.

The moderators should really step in and clean up this mess.•••••what a drama queen! Vader i have lots of respect for you..so i'll answer you in a nonsarcastic, plain way (well, more because this situation almost requires it). i DO understand that the post was rude. i said so. does it matter? comedians are rude all the time, but if you feel hurt, you're a fool because it's just for fun. it's not real. my comment was just for fun man. seriously, i respect you, but you have to learn how to see things a little more clearly from EVERYONE's point of view. even mine. thank you
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Joseph Reses:
•OK..I'll say it again..it was a joke. Some of you people take the whole political correctness and sensitivy thing way too far. What are you going to do if you ever hear your attending make an "insensitive" comment? Report him or her? I think not. I for one won't go through life walking on eggshells just to appease people's sensitivities. Yes, I am aware and do my best effort not to be offending; I don't make racial, ethnic, or religious slurs. But I'm not going to constantly screen every word I say because it could possibly offend one person out there. There IS a difference in being offended by a true derogatory comment and being offended at every little off-the-cuff comment. That's being over-sensitive.•••••
 
I'm going to do my homework and wouldn't check SDN till tomorrow at the earliest. I just wanted to tell A.Caveman that he truely makes me sick. I feel I'm going to puke whenever I read any of his caustic posts. Fun? Dude if that's your idea of fun you are one twisted MF'er.

Peace!
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by MD or Bust:
•Actually Cavey, I take you for an insensitive, arrogant, and extremely abrasive racist who should not be even bother to apply to med school. Dude, i hope u dont make some sarcastic comments to ur future patients and then explain to them that it was a "joke".....good luck with life buddy•••••thanks, back at cha.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Original:
I'm proud to have a problem with you. I take that as a complement; it even makes me smile to be known as the antithesis of A.Caveman :) Though I'm not really there yet, still working on it.[/QB]••••i know you think it's funny. so do i. i'm proud that i can mess with you at will, and happy that you mess with me back. basically what i'm trying to tell you is.."can i please suck yo dick man?" ~You So Crazy (martin lawrence)
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by GG16:
•Six pages of replies in less than 24 hours on a topic that has nothing to do with acceptances/ rejections, dates...etc...

Amazing!

That guy's first mistake is trying to single out his frustrations by directing an entire topic to slamming someone who was making a joke (perhaps, not in the best of taste--sorry cave--but a joke nonetheless). :) •••••damn, that's pretty perceptive. i would agree because he came out with this post as "CAVEMAN MAKING BLUNT RACIST COMMENTS" like it was a newspaper headline. really pouring it on to get me slammed. but i sympathize with him. besides, he already posted that he may have gone to nutty over this, and i did notice that he was nice enough to change the headline...although everyone had seen it by then!
 
Did you guys see that show on MTV about feuds in the rap industry? They said it makes it better, even fueders Jay-Z and Nas agreed.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by A. Caveman:
•.."can i please suck yo dick man?" )•••••No thank you, I think I'll pass. A.Caveman starts quoting Martin Laurence so he can get off the hook for his racist comments. Ever heard the word sore-@$$ Loser. Freaking PATHETIC. Give it up son.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Original:
•I'm going to do my homework and wouldn't check SDN till tomorrow at the earliest. I just wanted to tell A.Caveman that he truely makes me sick. I feel I'm going to puke whenever I read any of his caustic posts. Fun? Dude if that's your idea of fun you are one twisted MF'er.

Peace!•••••I am, I am!!! yey, original is upset with me (actually no one may realize but he's just trying to fuel the fires here..so that others get riled up too). original, have fun with your homework. be a good boy tonight and don't forget to pray by your bed. cuz you're so innocent, and such a nice little boy just doing your homework and all. HA! HA! please brother!
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Original:
• •••quote:•••Originally posted by A. Caveman:
•.."can i please suck yo dick man?" )•••••No thank you, I think I'll pass. A.Caveman starts quoting Martin Laurence so he can get off the hook for his racist comments. Ever heard the word sore-@$$ Loser. Freaking PATHETIC. Give it up son.•••••yo mama so fat, she bleeds gravy.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Doctora Foxy:
•Did you guys see that show on MTV about feuds in the rap industry? They said it makes it better, even fueders Jay-Z and Nas agreed.•••••Dra Foxy: I think Super ogly/Ether is stage-managed. Jay-Z and Nas are close buddies just trying to spice up the rap scene and sell more records. Food for thought.
 
Foxy...in fact me an Original are good buddies too. we're just spicing things up. right playa?
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by A. Caveman:
•Foxy...in fact me an Original are good buddies too. we're just spicing things up. right playa?•••••No dude! I truely hate your guts. Make no mistake about it.
 
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by Original:
• •••quote:•••Originally posted by A. Caveman:
•Foxy...in fact me an Original are good buddies too. we're just spicing things up. right playa?•••••No dude! I truely hate your guts. Make no mistake about it.•••••<img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
likewise. but we'll never meet each other so it doesn't make a difference. now what does make a difference is that you're a jerk, and i only play one on tv. so while people love me for being genuine, and you try to be nice so that everybody likes you..the smart ones will see through it, and dislike you more. i have a good analogy for you original. you're like the old guy on scrubs, the chief of medicine or something. he plays like he's nice, but a select few see the satanic evil that permeates his soul. although you're not as bad...i'll give you 10 years of medicine and then we'll see what you're like. have a good one.

PS. i love feuding.
yo mama's so fat, not even jared from subway hangs out with her. :D
 
Ah, who needs Must See TV when you got Original and Caveman to entertain ya! <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
 
who's gonna be the one to put this thread at over 100 posts in UNDER 24 hours??? this has to be a record. thanks for fanning this fire all day original!
 
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