A demoralizing first semester

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I went in with an 85 pcat and a 3.8 GPA but the first semester of pharmacy school has completely undermined my confidence. I'm a little older than the average student and I've always been the go-to guy that understood everything and could teach others, but this semester I've struggled just to maintain one A (I hope), five B's and a pass. I'm worried about how I'm going to respond when I begin therapeutics in my second year.

It's not that the material is particularly hard. My biopharmaceutics/drug delivery class was challenging and there was a rough 4 week pharmacology section, but other than that it wasn't terribly brutal. It's just such an abundance of information and I never get a break from it. In the past, I'd have a week of hell followed by one to three weeks where I could kinda recover. Now, I have a week of hell, followed by a week of hell, followed by a light week of hell, followed by a heavy week of hell and on the light week I have to prepare for the heavy week or I'm completely screwed.

I'm hoping the adjustments I made mid-semester can help me next semester, but I'm still worried. Anyone who says the first professional year is as easy as undergrad, is either going to a crappy school, is completely brilliant or is full of it.

P.S. I was accepted at an accelerated program and almost went there. Thank god I didn't.
 
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Welcome to pharmacy school.

You'll get through it. Your brain just has to adjust to the speed at which you have to absorb everything. And it will in time.
 
Hopefully you've learned some tips and tricks from this semester that you can use for next semester. The bad news is that it isn't going to get any easier (at least the difficulty level of the classes won't). The good news is that you passed all of your classes! Likely there is someone in your class who didn't; be glad you're not that person. :luck:
 
All Bs except 1 A is not bad at all for pharmacy school. Here I thought you'd be writing about Ds.
 
bokonon82 said:
I went in with an 85 pcat and a 3.8 GPA but the first semester of pharmacy school has completely undermined my confidence. I'm a little older than the average student and I've always been the go-to guy that understood everything and could teach others, but this semester I've struggled just to maintain one A (I hope), five B's and a pass. I'm worried about how I'm going to respond when I begin therapeutics in my second year.

It's not that the material is particularly hard. My biopharmaceutics/drug delivery class was challenging and there was a rough 4 week pharmacology section, but other than that it wasn't terribly brutal. It's just such an abundance of information and I never get a break from it. In the past, I'd have a week of hell followed by one to three weeks where I could kinda recover. Now, I have a week of hell, followed by a week of hell, followed by a light week of hell, followed by a heavy week of hell and on the light week I have to prepare for the heavy week or I'm completely screwed.

I'm hoping the adjustments I made mid-semester can help me next semester, but I'm still worried. Anyone who says the first professional year is as easy as undergrad, is either going to a crappy school, is completely brilliant or is full of it.

P.S. I was accepted at an accelerated program and almost went there. Thank god I didn't.
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WVUPharm2007 said:
Welcome to pharmacy school.

You'll get through it. Your brain just has to adjust to the speed at which you have to absorb everything. And it will in time.
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I can relate, man. It's like drinking from a firehose. And, if you're working or doing any EC's, it makes it that much harder. I have also decided to change some of my study habits- to studying a little bit everyday. At the beginning of the semester, I got some C's on exams and by the end, I was getting A's. Some wise folks here on SDN gave me some good tips. One of them is to get as many passes over the most important material which, in most cases, means whatever is on the powerpoint slides and whatever is pointed out (and repeated) during lecture. The textbooks should be used for clarification unless your prof explicitly says to read certain sections. For my pharmaceutics class, I just did as many practice problems as I could. Over and over and over again. It helps. I also found that teaching/tutoring my classmates (after I have studied extensively) really helps me on exams. Hang in there. A's and B's are good things! At least you don't have to retake any courses.
 
bokonon82 said:
I went in with an 85 pcat and a 3.8 GPA but the first semester of pharmacy school has completely undermined my confidence. I'm a little older than the average student and I've always been the go-to guy that understood everything and could teach others, but this semester I've struggled just to maintain one A (I hope), five B's and a pass. I'm worried about how I'm going to respond when I begin therapeutics in my second year.

It's not that the material is particularly hard. My biopharmaceutics/drug delivery class was challenging and there was a rough 4 week pharmacology section, but other than that it wasn't terribly brutal. It's just such an abundance of information and I never get a break from it. In the past, I'd have a week of hell followed by one to three weeks where I could kinda recover. Now, I have a week of hell, followed by a week of hell, followed by a light week of hell, followed by a heavy week of hell and on the light week I have to prepare for the heavy week or I'm completely screwed.

I'm hoping the adjustments I made mid-semester can help me next semester, but I'm still worried. Anyone who says the first professional year is as easy as undergrad, is either going to a crappy school, is completely brilliant or is full of it.

P.S. I was accepted at an accelerated program and almost went there. Thank god I didn't.
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That's a pretty good first semester.
 
The most value you can get out of your first year is a good sense of how to manage your time. Just do what I do and start the semester off really strong by studying from morning to night only stopping to eat and occasionally sleep. Then when the end of the year rolls around and everyone is freaking out you are coasting through.
 
bokonon82 said:
It's not that the material is particularly hard. My biopharmaceutics/drug delivery class was challenging and there was a rough 4 week pharmacology section, but other than that it wasn't terribly brutal. It's just such an abundance of information and I never get a break from it. In the past, I'd have a week of hell followed by one to three weeks where I could kinda recover. Now, I have a week of hell, followed by a week of hell, followed by a light week of hell, followed by a heavy week of hell and on the light week I have to prepare for the heavy week or I'm completely screwed.
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Doesn't it suck to realize that much of what you have to devour in such a short amount of time won't be necessary in the real world practice and much of what you need to do well in the real world ain't gonna be taught by the pharmacy school?
 
First year of pharmacy school is a joke compare to second year. I made straight A(s) my first year and studied about 1/10 as much as I did for my second year. Theraputics is a kick ass class...I made my first B+ in that class. So far A(s) in everything except for one theraputics class. 🙁 So yeah, if you have problems with your first year then theraputics will not be managable for you...the class is about a million times harder than all your P1 classes combined.
 
SHC1984 said:
First year of pharmacy school is a joke compare to second year. I made straight A(s) my first year and studied about 1/10 as much as I did for my second year. Theraputics is a kick ass class...I made my first B+ in that class. So far A(s) in everything except for one theraputics class. 🙁 So yeah, if you have problems with your first year then theraputics will not be managable for you...the class is about a million times harder than all your P1 classes combined.
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I found 'cology much harder than therapy.
 
owlegrad said:
I found 'cology much harder than therapy.
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Pharmacology was hard too...but I still got an A in the class...therapuetics I ended up with a 89.2! I was soooo fu*king pissed off you have no idea! 🙄 Some of the reasoning behind certain treatments just flat out didn't make any sense to me either...I think that could have caused my bad grade too...I am not sure. And yes I am very bitter about it. 😡
 
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So yeah, if you have problems with your first year then theraputics will not be managable for you...the class is about a million times harder than all your P1 classes combined.
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Since your new to this site let me inform you that the majority (99%) of the things stated by SCH1984 don't make any sense.

Every school is different so to state that having difficulty in your first year will translate in being unsuccessful in your second year is absurd.
 
SHC1984 said:
Pharmacology was hard too...but I still got an A in the class...therapuetics I ended up with a 89.2! I was soooo fu*king pissed off you have no idea! 🙄 Some of the reasoning behind certain treatments just flat out didn't make any sense to me either...I think that could have caused my bad grade too...I am not sure. And yes I am very bitter about it. 😡
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if getting an 89.2 in a class made you "so fu*cking pissed" how do you expect to deal with real life problems outside of classrooms
 
DYSF777 said:
Since your new to this site let me inform you that the majority (99%) of the things stated by SCH1984 don't make any sense.

Every school is different so to state that having difficulty in your first year will translate in being unsuccessful in your second year is absurd.
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Yes, every school is different, but first year is easier than second year in pretty much every school you attend. If you have diffculty your first year your second year will be worst. Will you fail? maybe, maybe not but it will be much more diffcult. Just b/c you are too stupid to have common sense to figure that out doesn't mean my posts doesn't make sense. :laugh:
 
SHC1984 said:
Yes, every school is different, but first year is easier than second year in pretty much every school you attend. If you have diffculty your first year your second year will be worst. Will you fail? maybe, maybe not but it will be much more diffcult. Just b/c you are too stupid to have common sense to figure that out doesn't mean my posts doesn't make sense. :laugh:
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Do you have this attitude towards everyone in the whole world?

Things make more sense during second and third years if you see the same things in different classes. If you learn about H2 blockers in pharmacology and then cover the mechanism in med chem, you start to get it a bit more.
 
Don't worry, bokonon82. You're not doing horrible. You just have to learn what works for you and how to manage the amount of material. Also, don't listen to people who say first year is a "joke". Who knows how difficult the material is that you're learning compared to other schools except for you. Also, just cause you didn't do as well as you would have liked this semester does not mean you can't do better next semester or the years to come. I know people that got a lot of C's their first year, and they made all A's this semester because the material made more sense to them. It'll be ok. 🙂
 
GoldfishPharmD said:
Don't worry, bokonon82. You're not doing horrible. You just have to learn what works for you and how to manage the amount of material. Also, don't listen to people who say first year is a "joke". Who knows how difficult the material is that you're learning compared to other schools except for you. Also, just cause you didn't do as well as you would have liked this semester does not mean you can't do better next semester or the years to come. I know people that got a lot of C's their first year, and they made all A's this semester because the material made more sense to them. It'll be ok. 🙂
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The first semester of the didactic portion was definitely the hardest for me. Once you adapt to the amount of information you receive in such a short period of time, it all falls into place. The material itself isn't that hard to understand. Also, it doesn't matter how much you think you know, when you get to your first clinical rotation, you feel like you know nothing.

But then once you get through it, you feel like you've learned more than you ever learned in class.
 
I thought 1st year was the most challenging at my school as well. It was the only time where I felt like i was actually going to flunk out of school, I actually got 3 A's and 2 B's.. but I felt VERY overwhelmed with the material. I think you get used to the amount of information and also later on the in the therapeutics modules the material becomes more applicable to actual pharmacy practice so its a little easier to digest (at least for me..)
 
I only made about 2 A(s) in Rx school. I turned out just fine.

Don't worry too much about grades unless you are at risk of expulsion.
 
You're doing fine. It's an adjustment having to absorb so much info, but you'll get there. And remember, everyone else is in the same place (except for the insane people that think a B+ is a bad grade and those that do nothing but study).

Take it from someone who's 29 and been in school since I was 5. A's and B's are fine and mean you're learning the material. Do the best you can, but sometimes life and other classes get in the way. I took 7 classes/21 units this quarter. I'm bored silly in pharmacology (got a PhD in molecular biology so a huge amount of the class is review) so couldn't motivate myself to study as much as I could for Medchem, which seemed more interesting to me. Still did fine in pharmacology, though, so I'm happy. My goal is above a 3.0, and so far, I'm making it quite nicely.

The hardest part for me with all these classes and info I'm jamming into my head is I'm forgetting other stuff more (like, oh, peoples' names), and I have no idea what to do when I'm not working or studying. I envy friends who have time to do projects around the house and lots of fun stuff in the evenings and on weekends. But I still try and go out sometimes with classmates and other friends. It's just a balancing act.
 
Even if that first semester of pharmacy school is as difficult an adjustment as it sounds like, I still look forward to having classes that are (at least somewhat) relevant to my future career. I've got a semester left finishing up my biology BS, and even though a lot of my classes are interesting I know they're generally useless to me as soon as the semester is over.

Do you guys find it easier to study the material that's actually relevant to practicing as a pharmacist? How much of the first year stuff actually IS relevant?
 
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Even if that first semester of pharmacy school is as difficult an adjustment as it sounds like, I still look forward to having classes that are (at least somewhat) relevant to my future career. I've got a semester left finishing up my biology BS, and even though a lot of my classes are interesting I know they're generally useless to me as soon as the semester is over.

Do you guys find it easier to study the material that's actually relevant to practicing as a pharmacist? How much of the first year stuff actually IS relevant?
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The first year at my pharmacy school wasn't that bad, but there wasn't much relevant to the practice of pharmacy. A lot of what I learned was how to present, talk/relate to patients, and then basic concepts (biochem, calculations, etc). We learned a lot of relevant material this past semester. It wasn't hard, but it was A LOT to learn in such a short amount of time. I actually liked this past semester better though. It's just hard not to get burnt out.
 
Yeah, ignore the statements from any outliers who think B's aren't hawt. Dude, pharmacy school is rough. The only thing that went through my mind in November (just finished my first semester) was what an old Marine told me:

Over the hill. Through the hill. Eat the hill.

Even when it sucks, keep your feet moving, since the end of the semester is guaranteed to arrive right on time.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who had a hell of a first semester, and it wasn't all A's. It was a rough time, but the good part is that these breaks are AWESOME. I've never appreciated time off so much. 😉
 
I really believe that you can never compare yourself to your classmates. One thing is, you don't know what knowledge they came into pharmacy school with, if they're cheating, or how they study. Different people absorb and interpret the information differently. This may not make you feel better, but relax. You're doing fine making an A and the rest B's. Focus more on the information, not the grade letter. Remember, you will not be carrying around a piece of paper with your GPA on it on rotations. Knowledge, hard work, and a decent personality speak higher than just one's GPA.
 
SHC1984 said:
First year of pharmacy school is a joke compare to second year. I made straight A(s) my first year and studied about 1/10 as much as I did for my second year. Theraputics is a kick ass class...I made my first B+ in that class. So far A(s) in everything except for one theraputics class. 🙁 So yeah, if you have problems with your first year then theraputics will not be managable for you...the class is about a million times harder than all your P1 classes combined.
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I can say with complete confidence that there is not a single person in my class that made straight A's last semester.

This semester looks like it's going to be a lot easier. There are a lot more projects, but our Drug Action class is only 2 hours a week compared to 4, which is a huge load off. I was a little concerned about the Pharmacogenomics course, but it's looking to be a lot easier than I had initially suspected.

I can live with B's. I'm not upset about my final grades, though I really wanted to come out of the first semester around a 3.5. I was more concerned about how much I struggled just to get those grades. With the life experience I have, I know that grades DO matter. A 4.0 is almost a negative, (for those that aren't aware) but I'd like to stay above a 3.0 overall. It's good to separate yourself from the crowd and the future of pharmacy is a bit murky right now.

From what I've been told, rotations should boost my gpa significantly in PY4 anyway, so I shouldn't be overly concerned.
 
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Welcome to pharmacy school!.. Your grades sounds like the norm.

I dont miss the days where I had 3 exam in one week followed by 2 the following then followed by 4 the next week.. (when I had 2 exams a week it was like considered a "light week")..

My best advice is dont think about the coming weeks (because it will mostly likely be filled with exams and group assignments). Take it one week at a time. Even thinking about that week itself was a struggle, so honestly i would take things day by day on those rough week period. In doing so the weeks starts to fly by and your on break.

Dont kill yourself to get all A's because grades really dont matter unless you want to do a residency, where then you should have at least aim for a 3.0 but ideally above 3.15-3.2 which would be doable with rotations being a gpa booster.

There were plenty of times when I stayed in on weekends just studying, but also give yourself a break and go out too.
 
I wouldn't worry unless you are at risk of expulsion as someone already stated. I was a B and C student. I got one 'D' in therapeutics. No harm done but a letter from the dean. I passed the Naplex with a 100/150. Im fine today. If i dont know something, i know where to look. I never was worried about getting straight A's. I was worried about managing my time with all the work they threw at us. Manage your time between school work, excercise and eating right and you will be ok.
 
bokonon82 said:
I can say with complete confidence that there is not a single person in my class that made straight A's last semester.

This semester looks like it's going to be a lot easier. There are a lot more projects, but our Drug Action class is only 2 hours a week compared to 4, which is a huge load off. I was a little concerned about the Pharmacogenomics course, but it's looking to be a lot easier than I had initially suspected.

I can live with B's. I'm not upset about my final grades, though I really wanted to come out of the first semester around a 3.5. I was more concerned about how much I struggled just to get those grades. With the life experience I have, I know that grades DO matter. A 4.0 is almost a negative, (for those that aren't aware) but I'd like to stay above a 3.0 overall. It's good to separate yourself from the crowd and the future of pharmacy is a bit murky right now.

From what I've been told, rotations should boost my gpa significantly in PY4 anyway, so I shouldn't be overly concerned.
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Why would a 4.0 be a negative?
 
SHC1984 said:
Why would a 4.0 be a negative?
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I can vouch for that, when my DOP interviewed an almost 4.0 applicant she said she was expecting a certain kind of person. It's not like it counted against him excatly, more like he had to prove that he had more to offer than perfect grades. Basically my DOP needed to know that he could work well with others and not be a complete <insert negative sterotype about overachievers>.

Any positive measure of performance is great, but as with anything else you really also need the personality. No DOP is going to want a high achiever who causes problems in the workplace because of attitude/people skills/whatever. Call it politics if you want, but trust me - once you are in the workforce no one is going to care about your grades, they will care about how well you do your job and (at least as important) how well you get along in the dept. Call it workplace harmony or anything that else that you want, but if you don't get along with your coworkers they will make your work life hell (and everyone in the dept suffers). My DOP definitely screens for that when she hires, she doesn't want that in her dept AT ALL. (One if the many, many reasons I love her and the dept)
 
owlegrad said:
I can vouch for that, when my DOP interviewed an almost 4.0 applicant she said she was expecting a certain kind of person. It's not like it counted against him excatly, more like he had to prove that he had more to offer than perfect grades. Basically my DOP needed to know that he could work well with others and not be a complete <insert negative sterotype about overachievers>.

Any positive measure of performance is great, but as with anything else you really also need the personality. No DOP is going to want a high achiever who causes problems in the workplace because of attitude/people skills/whatever. Call it politics if you want, but trust me - once you are in the workforce no one is going to care about your grades, they will care about how well you do your job and (at least as important) how well you get along in the dept. Call it workplace harmony or anything that else that you want, but if you don't get along with your coworkers they will make your work life hell (and everyone in the dept suffers). My DOP definitely screens for that when she hires, she doesn't want that in her dept AT ALL. (One if the many, many reasons I love her and the dept)
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The PharmD program is there to make sure you have competent people in healthcare. getting straight A's doesnt mean you are competent, it just means you are book smart. I dont care what grades you have in school (also dont want a failing worker), all i care about is your personality and how you handle stressful situations.
 
first semester is the hardest in some ways . the blast of information is really intense . personally i only took 6-10 credits per semester doing my prereqs so pharmacy school was really "full on" and it can be anxiety promoting . but after you get used to it, each semester gets easier in terms of you just grind it out and spending all the time in class , watching lectures/powerpoints/notes/presentation just becomes 2nd nature. the later semesters are more work, but the difference between 1st year and 2nd year was not nearly as big as the difference between prereqs and pharm school itself
 
bokonon82 said:
I went in with an 85 pcat and a 3.8 GPA but the first semester of pharmacy school has completely undermined my confidence. I'm a little older than the average student and I've always been the go-to guy that understood everything and could teach others, but this semester I've struggled just to maintain one A (I hope), five B's and a pass. I'm worried about how I'm going to respond when I begin therapeutics in my second year.

It's not that the material is particularly hard. My biopharmaceutics/drug delivery class was challenging and there was a rough 4 week pharmacology section, but other than that it wasn't terribly brutal. It's just such an abundance of information and I never get a break from it. In the past, I'd have a week of hell followed by one to three weeks where I could kinda recover. Now, I have a week of hell, followed by a week of hell, followed by a light week of hell, followed by a heavy week of hell and on the light week I have to prepare for the heavy week or I'm completely screwed.

I'm hoping the adjustments I made mid-semester can help me next semester, but I'm still worried. Anyone who says the first professional year is as easy as undergrad, is either going to a crappy school, is completely brilliant or is full of it.

P.S. I was accepted at an accelerated program and almost went there. Thank god I didn't.
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Who cares? I had 3.7-8 gpa in prepharm and got 91 pcat score. My pharm school gpa was 2.96. I just studied enough not to fail. And know all these nerds in my class that had stright A's, neither they have better jobs than me, nor they make more money.
 
I'm basically a powerpoint scanning machine. Seriously. Read through them a ton of times, then go in there and beat the test.

My God, if I never see another powerpoint in my life, it would be too soon.
 
konkan said:
Who cares? I had 3.7-8 gpa in prepharm and got 91 pcat score. My pharm school gpa was 2.96. I just studied enough not to fail. And know all these nerds in my class that had stright A's, neither they have better jobs than me, nor they make more money.
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I only posted my GPA and pcat to establish a baseline of where I was upon entrance to pharmacy school.

You got out when there was a demand for pharmacists. With the extreme expansion of pharmacy schools and companies pushing for automated dispensing and mail-order, a 2.96 GPA may not present itself as a competitive advantage. I recieved a bachelor's in an unrelated feild in 2005 and I have seen how quickly a job market can change. You may be safe, but I need to stand out in every way possible.
 
There are ways to get straight A's. Don't spend time studying, just get the old materials from P2's and up and hit the bars & clubs afterwards. Use your dirty valueless sex appeal to manipulate the ugly boys in & out of school. We love to show others our naked chests through revealing clothings WOOHOO. Nice girls who have to worry about family and career are the kinds you should rob. Dirty W-- rule!!
 
listawrum said:
there are ways to get straight a's. Don't spend time studying, just get the old materials from p2's and up and hit the bars & clubs afterwards. Use your dirty valueless sex appeal to manipulate the ugly boys in & out of school. We love to show others our naked chests through revealing clothings woohoo. Nice girls who have to worry about family and career are the kinds you should rob. Dirty w-- rule!!
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in before ban
 
owlegrad said:
I can vouch for that, when my DOP interviewed an almost 4.0 applicant she said she was expecting a certain kind of person. It's not like it counted against him excatly, more like he had to prove that he had more to offer than perfect grades. Basically my DOP needed to know that he could work well with others and not be a complete <insert negative sterotype about overachievers>.

Any positive measure of performance is great, but as with anything else you really also need the personality. No DOP is going to want a high achiever who causes problems in the workplace because of attitude/people skills/whatever. Call it politics if you want, but trust me - once you are in the workforce no one is going to care about your grades, they will care about how well you do your job and (at least as important) how well you get along in the dept. Call it workplace harmony or anything that else that you want, but if you don't get along with your coworkers they will make your work life hell (and everyone in the dept suffers). My DOP definitely screens for that when she hires, she doesn't want that in her dept AT ALL. (One if the many, many reasons I love her and the dept)
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That is a major sterotype that is about just as true as me saying "all hot blonde women are stupid." "All African American people are the best at basketball." "All Asians are perfect at math." "All poor people are lazy." "All people with low GPAs are stupid." etc.

Yes, there is a sterotype that 4.0 students are socially awkard. Why would they cause problems in the workplace? Now that is just plain F*CK up logic! 👎

I am definetly not socially awkard. In fact I would say I am most likely better at interviewing than most people I know. I know what to say. I know how to read people and I know what makes them happy. I am not stupid. I know what people like etc. I also like to socialize with people if I am at a party or something. So I am not socially awkard at all. HOWEVER, during work or studying I would rather not talk and concentrate on my task. I think it is important to work on what needs to be done and so I am very quiet at work and prefer to be in a quiet enviroment at work. In school I only have like 2 friends b/c I think it is more important that I do well in my classes/research project so most of my time is spent on that. THAT IS MY CHOICE. LOL...I rarely if ever talk to someone b/c I want to make friends with them. I only do that if 1) making friends with that person would somehow benefit ME. or 2) that person is really amazing and I feel that I would really want to be friends with that person. Otherwise I think it is better for me to do things to IMPROVE myself versus make random friends. etc. And to be quite frank, most people just aren't worth my time to talk to. My time is very valuble and will only go to improving myself or to the very few people that I find just amazing.

I also know some 4.0 students that are very social (I am not one) but I know 2 on the top of my head that are very social. One of them is a P3 and the other one sits in the back of the room and looks likes she doesn't even care about anything...but she always makes A on all exams! lol...I don't know how she does it! And she goes out a lot b/c her facebook pictures are always pictures of her at parties! so she isn't a nerd at all.

So yeah that DOP have some issues. That isn't a good sterotype to hold at all. Just as bad as me saying all hot blonde women are stupid. I mean people have all kinds of sterotype in their heads that are just flat out wrong. 🙄
 
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owlegrad said:
I can vouch for that, when my DOP interviewed an almost 4.0 applicant she said she was expecting a certain kind of person. It's not like it counted against him excatly, more like he had to prove that he had more to offer than perfect grades. Basically my DOP needed to know that he could work well with others and not be a complete <insert negative sterotype about overachievers>.

Any positive measure of performance is great, but as with anything else you really also need the personality. No DOP is going to want a high achiever who causes problems in the workplace because of attitude/people skills/whatever. Call it politics if you want, but trust me - once you are in the workforce no one is going to care about your grades, they will care about how well you do your job and (at least as important) how well you get along in the dept. Call it workplace harmony or anything that else that you want, but if you don't get along with your coworkers they will make your work life hell (and everyone in the dept suffers). My DOP definitely screens for that when she hires, she doesn't want that in her dept AT ALL. (One if the many, many reasons I love her and the dept)
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Great, here I thought I was making myself a competetive applicant for residency and now it turns out I'm just stereotyping myself as an overachieving as*hat.
 
mustang sally said:
Great, here I thought I was making myself a competetive applicant for residency and now it turns out I'm just stereotyping myself as an overachieving as*hat.
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That is what I am saying!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! And what is wrong with overachievers????????????????????? I love my super strong type A personality and I love being an overachiever!

SO residencies prefer lazy people now? 🙄
 
SHC1984 said:
That is what I am saying!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! And what is wrong with overachievers????????????????????? I love my super strong type A personality and I love being an overachiever!

SO residencies prefer lazy people now? 🙄
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She was hiring for a staff position, not a residency. I am not familar with that process at all.
 
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