A good Weight Loss Supplement?

[MedPR]

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6'0" 170 lbs crew checking in. I'm trying to freaking gain weight over here, only in certain places of course. You don't really need to lose weight, just to redistribute it. Just be dedicated to working out and watching your diet and you will lose some flab and gain some of dem dere muscles. No need for supplements or anything.

Completely cut fast food and soda out. That's a good starting point. From there control your portions and stuff. I eat lots of fish/chicken and lots of vegetables. I intentionally only buy one snack food at a time for my house so I don't smash snacks (chips and salsa or crackers or something). Cut down beer consumption too if that is an issue. I run 4-6 miles 5 days a week and lift 4 days a week. I've only really been doing all this with SERIOUS dedication for about two months and I am already trimmer. Weight is up a little even to dem dere muscle gains but slimmer through my core for sure. No idea about BF% though I'm curious. It's hard to get into working out consistently but once you do you will be really happy with it I think. feelsgoodman.jpg

Also, this thread is clearly not relevant to pre-osteo so what on earth difference does it make if it gets all misced up? modscrackingdown/10 wot/10

On board with this. 5'8" 150lbs trying to gain. Been lifting for a out a month and a half. Some visible noob gains but not a lot of weight gain.

Also agree with the last paragraph.

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[circulus vitios]

Cocaine.

 

[RuralPhysician8]

6'0" 170 lbs crew checking in. I'm trying to freaking gain weight over here, only in certain places of course. You don't really need to lose weight, just to redistribute it. Just be dedicated to working out and watching your diet and you will lose some flab and gain some of dem dere muscles. No need for supplements or anything.

Completely cut fast food and soda out. That's a good starting point. From there control your portions and stuff. I eat lots of fish/chicken and lots of vegetables. I intentionally only buy one snack food at a time for my house so I don't smash snacks (chips and salsa or crackers or something). Cut down beer consumption too if that is an issue. I run 4-6 miles 5 days a week and lift 4 days a week. I've only really been doing all this with SERIOUS dedication for about two months and I am already trimmer. Weight is up a little even to dem dere muscle gains but slimmer through my core for sure. No idea about BF% though I'm curious. It's hard to get into working out consistently but once you do you will be really happy with it I think. feelsgoodman.jpg

Also, this thread is clearly not relevant to pre-osteo so what on earth difference does it make if it gets all misced up? modscrackingdown/10 wot/10

I am 180(I just a found a chart from late 2012 that I made), my pectorals are very firm and toning up well, thanks to resistance training; however, my abdominal area has more than noticable belly fat. I work out consistently in between my study hours. I avoid red meat with a passion and prefer grilled or baked chicken/fish.

I placed this thread in Pre-Osteo, because I believed it would only recieve about five replies, fade, then I could use those replies to narrow down my research a bit and finally make a decision; I did not expect a two page discussion, but I do appreciate everyone's advice.

I am not seeking any extreme products, just something over the counter. If a moderator believes this thread to be too close to medical advice, then I will have no complaints if he or she removes it.

I am not working out just to attract females, I have no time for a relationship anyway.
I want to set a good example for my family as their lifestyle is far from healthy.

Thanks again everyone.

 

[RuralPhysician8]

Cocaine.

Thanks, but I prefer the legal method. On a related note, I do not drink, smoke, etc... and never will; I see too many people at my high school going downhill with substance abuse.

 

[as1212559]

Do you do lots of sustained cardio? Burning fat is hard for sure. Don't know much about any OTC things that can accelerate that process, they all seem like BS to the untrained eye.

It sounds like you're doing the right i with your diet. Low fat and all. Plateaus are super frustrating.

 

[MedPR]

Thanks, but I prefer the legal method. On a related note, I do not drink, smoke, etc... and never will; I have seen too many people at my high school going downhill with substance abuse.

Grapefruit diet imo. I hear it's golden.

 

[RuralPhysician8]

Do you do lots of sustained cardio? Burning fat is hard for sure.

I get my pulse at fat burning level for about half an hour a day, plus walking home from school (15 minutes uphill with a 20 pound backpack) and other miscellaneous activities.

 

[BenzylAcetate]

I get my pulse at fat burning level for about half an hour a day, plus walking home from school (15 minutes uphill with a 20 pound backpack) and other miscellaneous activities.

Are you doing any sort of weight training? Cardio is fine for overall health and general fitness, but if you are concerned with body composition you would benefit from greater focus on resistance training.

To emphasize the point that you truly are concerned with body composition and not actual body weight, think about this question. Would you be happier if you looked exactly the same as you do now, but weighed 10 pounds less?

 

[RuralPhysician8]

Are you doing any sort of weight training? Cardio is fine for overall health and general fitness, but if you are concerned with body composition you would benefit from greater focus on resistance training.

To emphasize the point that you truly are concerned with body composition and not actual body weight, think about this question. Would you be happier if you looked exactly the same as you do now, but weighed 10 pounds less?

I lift weights daily now. I Just started a consistent schedule (In the past, I just did random intense settings once or twice a week) last month, but I have been doing cardio for quite awhile, which is why I focused my question on weight loss. To answer your question, I am hoping to lose weight and gain muscle mass. This takes time, I understand. A better topic may have been "Getting over a plateau in weight loss".

 

[kgpremed11]

Cocaine.

How I got straight A's my junior year, I never ever slept. Up at 3 in the morning,


EDIT: well actually it was a legal form of cocain.

 

[BenzylAcetate]

I lift weights daily now. I Just started a consistent schedule (In the past, I just did random intense settings once or twice a week) last month, but I have been doing cardio for quite awhile, which is why I focused my question on weight loss. To answer your question, I am hoping to lose weight and gain muscle mass. This takes time, I understand. A better topic may have been "Getting over a plateau in weight loss".

What does lifting weights daily entail? Are you still progressing in terms of absolute strength?

I don't think the point of my question about body composition came across correctly. You want to gain muscle, why? To look a certain way? General health/well being? Wanting to be the world's strongest man?

You want to lose weight, why? You feel you need to be a certain weight to be healthy? To look a certain way?

The point I was trying to make is that body weight isn't necessarily a good metric to measure your goals. Looking a certain way is more about relative levels of body fat than it is total body weight.

 

[RuralPhysician8]

What does lifting weights daily entail?A stress reliever, a break from studying, and builds muscle mass.

Are you still progressing in terms of absolute strength? I am noticing small increases in my strength; however, my energy level is about the same.

I don't think the point of my question about body composition came across correctly. You want to gain muscle, why? I want a healthy physique to set a good example for my family

To look a certain way? No

General health/well being? Yes

Wanting to be the world's strongest man? I am afraid not.

You want to lose weight, why? I want to decrease my risk of heart disease (I already have a minor hypertension) and other weight/diet related conditions

You feel you need to be a certain weight to be healthy? Yes, but it is in no way an obsession.

To look a certain way? Not exactly.

The point I was trying to make is that body weight isn't necessarily a good metric to measure your goals. Looking a certain way is more about relative levels of body fat than it is total body weight.

I am not trying to be sarcastic by answering all your questions individually, I just want to make sure we are on the same page. Thanks.

 

[RuralPhysician8]

How I got straight A's my junior year, I never ever slept. Up at 3 in the morning,


EDIT: well actually it was a legal form of cocain.

Me and a pot of coffee would stay up until 5am.

 

[MedPR]

I am not trying to be sarcastic by answering all your questions individually, I just want to make sure we are on the same page. Thanks.

I believe question 1 was referring to what your weight lifting routine is like. Not the reasons why you do it.

 

[RuralPhysician8]

I believe question 1 was referring to what your weight lifting routine is like. Not the reasons why you do it.

Yeah, I had to read that question twice, by daily I mean an intensive 30 minute, no breaks, session of chest flys, curls, and benchpresses. My dumbells weigh 20lbs each and the benchpress is 100lb; after this session, my muscles have a moderate "burn" and I am sweating. Thanks.

 

[abolt18]

Yeah, I had to read that question twice, by daily I mean an intensive 30 minute, no breaks, session of chest flys, curls, and benchpresses. My dumbells weigh 20lbs each and the benchpress is 100lb; after this session, my muscles have a moderate "burn" and I am sweating. Thanks.

You only work your chest and biceps?

 

[RuralPhysician8]

You only work your chest and biceps?

As far as weights go, pretty much. I do cardio for my abdominal fat. Would some abdominal muscle workouts help? I am not exactly hunting a six pack, but if it burns belly fat I will probably try a new technique.

 

[MountainDeW]

absolutely it would help. a lot of compound exercises work out abs as well (squats/deadlifts/etc)

 

[abolt18]

I would most definitely increase that workout to include more muscle groups (back, upper and lower, tri's, and definitely legs) and I believe you'll be surprised at how much it helps you overall.

 

[silas2642]

Road bike.

 

[MedPR]

As far as weights go, pretty much. I do cardio for my abdominal fat. Would some abdominal muscle workouts help? I am not exactly hunting a six pack, but if it burns belly fat I will probably try a new technique.

I'm no expert, but ignoring all the other muscles in your body probably isn't a good idea.

 

[coolingglasses]

As far as weights go, pretty much. I do cardio for my abdominal fat. Would some abdominal muscle workouts help? I am not exactly hunting a six pack, but if it burns belly fat I will probably try a new technique.

If you're going to incorporate lifting, you would be well-served to include muscles over the entire body. Doing abdominal workouts does not inherently burn abdominal fat (spot training).

 

[coolingglasses]

I mean you don't want to end up like this:

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[rgannon08]

At 6ft and 165 lbs it sounds like your "skinny fat" if your trying to lose weight. I say this because if you had even moderate muscle mass you would be pretty ripped at that weight and height.

Therefore I would still keep your diet in check but cut down on the cardio and lift heavy compound movements. Bench press, standing barbell press, weighted chin ups, dips, and deadlift/squat if you want bigger legs.

For supplements, what works best for me is just a simple caffeine pill on an empty stomach before some moderate aerobic work.

This is really good advice.. I follow Martin Berkhan's Leangains approach, just google it and check out his protocol under categories. Basically, no one questions the validity of nutritional science today but the majority of it is BS. I stopped eating breakfast a few months ago, eat twice a day (and fast a full 24 hours once a week), and do heavy, heavy compound movement 3x a week for 45 min only. FYI-Martin Berkhan is around your height, weighs around 185 and has ~5% body fat. I get so angry when people are constantly eating every 2-3 hours to "boost" their metabolism. Seriously, if you are trying to lose weight at that height you must not be an ectomorph, so his program would work well for you. The basics of it are keep protein intake high on all days, lift heavy 3x a week (boost your carbs way up on these days to trigger an insulin response) , intermittently fast, and reduce calories and carb intake on non-lifting days.

 

[alshin88]

The only fat burners that work are ephedrine and Clen. Both are illegal in the US.

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[touchpause13]

The only fat burners that work are ephedrine and Clen. Both are illegal in the US.

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Pretty sure there are some legit prescriptions for appetite suppression tho

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[ladybug1552]

Pretty sure there are some legit prescriptions for appetite suppression tho

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Indeed, well-butrin and phentramine being two of them that work very successfully in some individuals. But I think a patient has to be obese in order to be considered for a prescription and OP certainly doesn't fall under that category.

 

[touchpause13]

Indeed, well-butrin and phentramine being two of them that work very successfully in some individuals. But I think a patient has to be obese in order to be considered for a prescription and OP certainly doesn't fall under that category.

Welbutrin? Really....


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[ladybug1552]

Welbutrin? Really....


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I know! Weird, right? Apparently it helps the 'addiction center' of the brain and can help with smoking cessation, weight loss and the like. I have family members who've been on it and lost over 30 lbs.

 

[EnergyDrink]

I know it's not a supplement, but I suggest a ketogenic diet. I'm not one for fad diets, but I really think there is something to keto. People have a lot of success with it.

The diet really sells itself.

 

[touchpause13]

I know! Weird, right? Apparently it helps the 'addiction center' of the brain and can help with smoking cessation, weight loss and the like. I have family members who've been on it and lost over 30 lbs.

The thing is I have a couple bottles of it laying around, maybe I should give it another shot.

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[ladybug1552]

The thing is I have a couple bottles of it laying around, maybe I should give it another shot.

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It certainly works well for some but I've seen firsthand people gain all the weight back after a certain period of time. It seems to lose it's effectivity so be careful!

 

[Eiot]

This thread will stay open as long as medical advice is not given. Please do not recommend something a physician would have to prescribe.

You mean like Adderall?



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[touchpause13]

It certainly works well for some but I've seen firsthand people gain all the weight back after a certain period of time. It seems to lose it's effectivity so be careful!

The reason I stopped taking it was cuz it wasn't helping enough with my depression as I had hoped for and I couldn't drink while taking it, but I never paid attention to the appetite portion of it.

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[dudeliness]

This is really good advice.. I follow Martin Berkhan's Leangains approach, just google it and check out his protocol under categories. Basically, no one questions the validity of nutritional science today but the majority of it is BS. I stopped eating breakfast a few months ago, eat twice a day (and fast a full 24 hours once a week), and do heavy, heavy compound movement 3x a week for 45 min only. FYI-Martin Berkhan is around your height, weighs around 185 and has ~5% body fat. I get so angry when people are constantly eating every 2-3 hours to "boost" their metabolism. Seriously, if you are trying to lose weight at that height you must not be an ectomorph, so his program would work well for you. The basics of it are keep protein intake high on all days, lift heavy 3x a week (boost your carbs way up on these days to trigger an insulin response) , intermittently fast, and reduce calories and carb intake on non-lifting days.

Hmm, this is an interesting idea.

 

[RuralPhysician8]

I mean you don't want to end up like this:

[YOUTUBE]G4rCPmdIKj4[/YOUTUBE]

Thanks for the great motivation (lol). I will definitely be putting a bit more variety in my lifting and I will avoid supplements for now. Thanks everyone.

 

[ACOM2017]

Cheap weight loss solution: Green Tea + Men's Health workout of the month + Paleo-ish diet

 

[littlegreen88]

Working out itself only burns a limited amount of calories. Building muscle is what ensures that your metabolism increases and that your body is the most efficient throughout the day. That is why cardio should be supplemented with muscle building exercise such as lifting weights. It's tough for me because I love cardio and not a huge fan of weights. But yoga is actually pretty good for strength training.
But for the original question- only way to lose weight is exercise and healthy diet. There are no shortcuts without serious implications .

 

[touchpause13]

OP:

I just started SAFslim this week. Most of the reviews I've read say you probably won't see any results until week 3 or 4, but i'd be more than willing to give updates.

 

[I Love Cats]

Oxyelite pro with the right habits is a sick multiplier.

 

[dudeliness]

OP:

I just started SAFslim this week. Most of the reviews I've read say you probably won't see any results until week 3 or 4, but i'd be more than willing to give updates.

I'd like to hear how that works out.

 

[GlowInTheDark]

I've heard Dinitrophenol works great

If you want to end up in the ED

 

[WorldChanger36]

If I was 6 feet tall I would be shooting for the 250 lbs 8 % bodyfat look.... So razor... Being 5'10" I think I will keep in around 200 and 10 % bodyfat. Interview ready with cufflinks and a bow tie.... FTW

 

[CapCrunch]

Is it just me or does 6ft tall 160lbs sound a little underweight?

This. I'm 5'10 and ~200 lbs. and have no issue fitting into my size 31 jeans. 6ft and 160 is pretty skinny.

 

[Elevencents]

If you are concerned about overall "health", the last thing you need is to add a supplement to raise your heart rate. Being 6'0 160 your primary goal should be to add muscle mass, which will in turn raise your metabolism in order to feed and sustain those newly found muscles. Supplements are for people who have hit a plateau, not for a quick fix.

Eat right, step foot in a gym, and do moderate cardio a few times a week. Keep it simple.

 

[MedPR]

This. I'm 5'10 and ~200 lbs. and have no issue fitting into my size 31 jeans. 6ft and 160 is pretty skinny.

5'7" (almost 5'8") 150lbs and I wear size 30 jeans, so yeah 6ft/160 seems very small.

 

[calvnandhobbs68]

5'7" (almost 5'8") 150lbs and I wear size 30 jeans, so yeah 6ft/160 seems very small.

Yeah OP who told you you needed to lose weight? Although I guess if it's all flab you might be lookin bad but in that case you don't need to straight up lose weight you just need to hit the iron.

 

[Wipeout416]

Road bike.

Yeeep.

I've been doing rides on some days and swimming on others, while adding in pushups dips sit ups etc in the mix, works out pretty well. I don't really like lifting...