Dentalgloss

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Hi everyone, I have a huge problem.. and looking for advice.

I submitted my apps in June and am taking my DATs next week. When I submitted my apps I forgot to indicate that I had been found guilty of cheating during undergrad. There WAS record of it on my transcript but later removed after I took a "academic dishonesty" course, and my grade was replaced with a F. I recall the advisor telling me that it would not be on my transcript and it is violation to share this information even if future schools ask. So it is not on any of my transcript. But honest to god, I did not mean to hide it, I simply forgot because I was so busy dealing with work, school and I had a family issue at the moment, it was one of those things I didn't read carefully and kept clicking "next" .. and since this event happened so long ago it completely slipped my mind.

If this information is important: I was found guilty of cheating in a psych class , and someone was copying off my paper, i- stupidly allowed it to happen.

I did not mean to hide it, and I do want to be honest about it but I cannot edit my applications anymore. So what should I do? Do you think it'll make a difference if I email every school about it? Or do you think there is a chance they won't find out?

I am freaking out right now because I did not have any science in my undergrads, I spent the last two years doing pre reqs and studying for the DAT... and I'm afraid because of this, all my hard work will be gone to nothing because I will not be even given a chance at dental school. I know they take these things seriously and if they find out, my dental dream is over.

Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you..
 

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If it's not reported on your current transcript, then you have nothing to worry about. If you're extremely paranoid about this, I'd order an official transcript for yourself to see what it says. If it does indicate "academic dishonesty," then you should update your AADSAS to reflect that.

If you're invited to interview and they ask you about that F, then you should explain the situation.
 
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If it's not reported on your current transcript, then you have nothing to worry about. If you're extremely paranoid about this, I'd order an official transcript for yourself to see what it says. If it does indicate "academic dishonesty," then you should update your AADSAS to reflect that.

If you're invited to interview and they ask you about that F, then you should explain the situation.
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If it's not reported on your current transcript, then you have nothing to worry about. If you're extremely paranoid about this, I'd order an official transcript for yourself to see what it says. If it does indicate "academic dishonesty," then you should update your AADSAS to reflect that.

If you're invited to interview and they ask you about that F, then you should explain the situation.
I do have a copy of my transcript and there is no indication of it anywhere.. but I did apply to the same school I was caught cheating for. They also have a dental school (stony brook) won't they have a record? Or look into it? And I feel like if they found out, they will communicate to other dental schools.. and is it true that tufts require us to sign a form to send to the schools we attended, to obtain any dishonesty files?

Thank you again for your reply!
 
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I do have a copy of my transcript and there is no indication of it anywhere.. but I did apply to the same school I was caught cheating for. They also have a dental school (stony brook) won't they have a record? Or look into it? And I feel like if they found out, they will communicate to other dental schools.. and is it true that tufts require us to sign a form to send to the schools we attended, to obtain any dishonesty files?

Thank you again for your reply!
Follow advice given. Your home school may know about it. But I very highly doubt they will find the time to contact your other schools.
 

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Just because it's not on the transcript, doesn't mean that your school doesn't keep an internal disciplinary record. Many schools will contact your undergrad institution after you're accepted to get a Dean's Certification where they can disclose your academic dishonesty. I would call your undergrad and tell them you'd like to know if you have an internal record, they'll be able to tell you for sure.
 
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Just because it's not on the transcript, doesn't mean that your school doesn't keep an internal disciplinary record. Many schools will contact your undergrad institution after you're accepted to get a Dean's Certification where they can disclose your academic dishonesty. I would call your undergrad and tell them you'd like to know if you have an internal record, they'll be able to tell you for sure.
This is actually what I am afraid of.. i will call tomorrow to make sure. But let's say they do... what should I do afterwards? Since I am not able to edit my applications...is it over for me?
 

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This is actually what I am afraid of.. i will call tomorrow to make sure. But let's say they do... what should I do afterwards? Since I am not able to edit my applications...is it over for me?
No, at that point, I would call AADSAS and explain the situation to them and see if they'll let you amend it. If not, you'd have to email schools to let them know. It's better to let them know in advance rather then them finding out later and rescinding your acceptance.
 
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Dentalgloss

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No, at that point, I would call AADSAS and explain the situation to them and see if they'll let you amend it. If not, you'd have to email schools to let them know. It's better to let them know in advance rather then them finding out later and rescinding your acceptance.
Okay, thank you so much for your help..
 
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Dentalgloss

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No worries, just call your undergrad and tell your academic affairs office or your advisor that you’re applying to grad school and want to make sure that your record is clean.
I am so scared now.. if there is a record and I email schools about it, do you think I have zero chances of getting in any schools?
 

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I am so scared now.. if there is a record and I email schools about it, do you think I have zero chances of getting in any schools?
Try not to stress out too much about this. I would not e-mail the ADCOMs directly about the situation. I would talk to your school first. If there is no record or paper trail I would let it ride. If there is a record work with AADSAS and then use the widget on the application to push an update to the schools where you applied. I am still completing classes as we speak and I have to re-send my transcripts for verification. Once that happens I use the update button. If they can amend your application then use this to update your applications the same way.

Honestly I would do what you are able to do and if you cannot fix the issue, let it blow over. You are in a situation where you are trying to change horses midstream and I think it's better to keep things in perspective. You haven't been convicted of a crime, you weren't expelled or suspended, and there most likely is no existing record at your school. Don't freak out and inadvertently shoot yourself in the foot. If you are contacted for an interview chances are they won't even ask about this. If they do, explain the situation.
 
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I recall the advisor telling me that it would not be on my transcript and it is violation to share this information even if future schools ask. So it is not on any of my transcript.
Do your self a favor and do not violate anything again. If they told you not to share this information, don't.

Edit: also, some schools may ask you in the secondary application or even in an interview why you received an F grade in one of your classes. Be able to explain it.
 
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Dentalgloss

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Try not to stress out too much about this. I would not e-mail the ADCOMs directly about the situation. I would talk to your school first. If there is no record or paper trail I would let it ride. If there is a record work with AADSAS and then use the widget on the application to push an update to the schools where you applied. I am still completing classes as we speak and I have to re-send my transcripts for verification. Once that happens I use the update button. If they can amend your application then use this to update your applications the same way.

Honestly I would do what you are able to do and if you cannot fix the issue, let it blow over. You are in a situation where you are trying to change horses midstream and I think it's better to keep things in perspective. You haven't been convicted of a crime, you weren't expelled or suspended, and there most likely is no existing record at your school. Don't freak out and inadvertently shoot yourself in the foot. If you are contacted for an interview chances are they won't even ask about this. If they do, explain the situation.
Thank you for your response, unfortunately.. there is a record. I just called the school and they said even if it's not on my transcript, it is still on the their system, and if schools ask me to sign a paper for them to verify my academic honesty record, they will tell them.

I also just called AADSAS, they said that portion of the application is locked for them and it cannot be edited even during the update applications period. They recommended me to email the programs asking how I should report the situation. So I guess that is my only choice..

I feel like my whole world just shattered, and there is no more use in studying for the DATs for next week anymore.
 
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Dentalgloss

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Do your self a favor and do not violate anything again. If they told you not to share this information, don't.

Edit: also, some schools may ask you in the secondary application or even in an interview why you received an F grade in one of your classes. Be able to explain it.
What I meant was that they will not disclose any of my information because they aren't supposed to.. but it turns out there is a record, and dental schools will find out if I sign a form.. which from what I am hearing, it is required by all the dental schools.
 
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Dentalgloss

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No worries, just call your undergrad and tell your academic affairs office or your advisor that you’re applying to grad school and want to make sure that your record is clean.
They have a record, and aadsas aren't able to unlock the part of the application for me. I have to email the schools. I think this is pretty much game over for me.

How understanding do you think schools will be? Do you think, they will think I was just trying to hide it?
 

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Keep studying. If you're up front about it and your profile is good, you're not doomed. Gonna be really late for this cycle though.
 
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Dentalgloss

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Keep studying. If you're up front about it and your profile is good, you're not doomed. Gonna be really late for this cycle though.
I know I am pretty late, but There were no earlier exam dates, so I had to take it at this time.. on top of that, all this is happening.. I feel like I have no hope or chance anymore
 
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Dentalgloss

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I will be writing the email to send to schools, is there anyone that can help me with that? Just to reread it if it's okay.. thanks in advance!
 

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not sure if i'm writing too late but try not to freak out just keep calm when dealing with the situation. I think if adcoms get the same vibes I got from reading your post, you'd come off as stressed, worried, anxious all the above which you can be but it may not help your application
 
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not sure if i'm writing too late but try not to freak out just keep calm when dealing with the situation. I think if adcoms get the same vibes I got from reading your post, you'd come off as stressed, worried, anxious all the above which you can be but it may not help your application
Thank you for your reply. I am trying my best to keep calm, with the pressure of the DAT coming, I can't help but to panic. I ended up emailing the schools, and some replied back asking for explanation. I am trying to be as honest as possible, hopefully they will not see it as me trying to hide it. I've been trying to research, and i don't see many people who have had this experience, so it makes it scarier.
 

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Thank you for your reply. I am trying my best to keep calm, with the pressure of the DAT coming, I can't help but to panic. I ended up emailing the schools, and some replied back asking for explanation. I am trying to be as honest as possible, hopefully they will not see it as me trying to hide it. I've been trying to research, and i don't see many people who have had this experience, so it makes it scarier.
Since it wasn't anything major, more important I think in your situation is to show maturity in handling the situation. That's all I was trying to say. Be professional and courteous when communicating with them rather than writing paragraphs and turning it into confession time. Good luck on DAT's! I'm also preparing for mine.
 

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Stop it!

What's done is done!

Your dreams are not freaking shattered. It's a mistake, it happened, and it's over!

Even if you didn't get in this cycle, so what!
You are still freaking young and you have the world in front of you.

Next year, disclose everything!

Unless you killed, raped, or did a major offense, that when yeah your dream for dental school is over.

Otherwise, study hard for the dat and hope for the best!

If you didn't get accepted this cycle, next cycle, you will make a statement that indicates how you made that mistake how it changed you and what you learned from it.

Even now you can send them this email, to every one of these schools.
 
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Dentalgloss

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Stop it!

What's done is done!

Your dreams are not freaking shattered. It's a mistake, it happened, and it's over!

Even if you didn't get in this cycle, so what!
You are still freaking young and you have the world in front of you.

Next year, disclose everything!

Unless you killed, raped, or did a major offense, that when yeah your dream for dental school is over.

Otherwise, study hard for the dat and hope for the best!

If you didn't get accepted this cycle, next cycle, you will make a statement that indicates how you made that mistake how it changed you and what you learned from it.

Even now you can send them this email, to every one of these schools.
Thank you for this! I am learning from my mistakes, if I have to reapply next cycle, I will disclose everything
Thank you so much for your kind words
 
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