Acceptance due to legacy?!?

[toothless rufus]

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Am I understanding correctly, that having a legacy can help your acceptance: even over a more qualified candidate?! That hardly seems fair. 👎

 

[supersash]

unfortunately in life sometimes who you know is more important that what kind of person you are. sucks, unless of course you are the one who knows someone! 😉

 

[OSUdoc08]

Am I understanding correctly, that having a legacy can help your acceptance: even over a more qualified candidate?! That hardly seems fair. 👎

It explains why one girl was admitted to my class. Her father was in the founding class of the school.

 

[The Bell Jar]

It isn't fair,but it happens and it does suck.

 

[jellibelli]

It isn't fair,but it happens and it does suck.

But sometimes, even with the legacy, those people are actually quite qualified for the schools they get admitted to.

 

[Jamers]

Am I understanding correctly, that having a legacy can help your acceptance: even over a more qualified candidate?! That hardly seems fair. 👎

Yeah, imagine what its like for people, myself included, who are the first in their family (ever) to go to college and then to medical school. We have no damn legacy 👎 🙁

 

[DiverDoc]

SO if my grandfather sat on an ADCOM for a long ass time and still has connections with the school... This will help me I take it? I figured it would a little but.?

 

[OnMyWayThere]

This happens in undergrads, grad schools, residency - and throughout your career with jobs, promotions, etc. Don't let it get to you.

 

[HunterGatherer]

But sometimes, even without the legacy, those people are actually quite qualified for the schools they get admitted to.

I agree.

 

[HunterGatherer]

This happens in undergrads, grad schools, residency - and throughout your career with jobs, promotions, etc. Don't let it get to you.

👍

 

[dr.z]

This happens in undergrads, grad schools, residency - and throughout your career with jobs, promotions, etc. Don't let it get to you.

True.

 

[docbill]

This is a surprise to me.

Next thing you are going to say is that the government is not honest!

 

[BMW19]

rotations won't be fair, residency won't be fair, life is not fair. Get used to it

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Am I understanding correctly, that having a legacy can help your acceptance: even over a more qualified candidate?! That hardly seems fair. 👎

 

[Nate]

Lol, I remember a few of the allopathic schools I applied to secondary application was in this format:

1) Did any member of your family graduate from X school of medicine?

2) Please enclose your check for 100$

Thank you, drive through.

 

[USArmyDoc]

I think having legacy helped me at one of the schools I was accepted at. However, I have more than adequate stats. I think it helped more with the interview than anything. They were not rough on me and didn't ask my why DO at all. They prob. figure I live with one.

 

[Sainttpk]

and people complain about URM's getting slots in medical school!!! I would like to see more people complain about legacy slots!

 

[guv_garfunkel]

I interviewed at a school my first cousin went to. He was a really popular student there. After my interview they told me my application was "VIP status" (whatever that means) thanks to him. They said that's why I recieved an interview so fast. Thanks Cuz!!

 

[USArmyDoc]

I really think people are overplaying the legacy factor. I really doubt it makes that much of a difference if your stats are in gutter. Relax! jeez

 

[DD214_DOC]

I really think people are overplaying the legacy factor. I really doubt it makes that much of a difference if your stats are in gutter. Relax! jeez

I work in admissions somewhere (not medical) and the legacy thing does come up. While this may only be true for undergrad and the uni I work at, legacy only matters when a person does not meet the cutoff for admission. His file goes to, "review" and legacy is one of the many things that gives him points for admission. Other objective and subjective factors are included as well, such as community service, SAT/ACT score strength, LORs, etc.

 

[USArmyDoc]

I work in admissions somewhere (not medical) and the legacy thing does come up. While this may only be true for undergrad and the uni I work at, legacy only matters when a person does not meet the cutoff for admission. His file goes to, "review" and legacy is one of the many things that gives him points for admission. Other objective and subjective factors are included as well, such as community service, SAT/ACT score strength, LORs, etc.

So you are telling me that I could apply to this school with poor grades and get in just because of legacy? Maybe at some schools is highly regarded but I doubt it is at medical school. I am not going to lie. I have had DEANS pull my application at a medical school and actual committee members only to receive a rejection two weeks later. It doesn't work. In addition, I have a competitive application.

 

[DD214_DOC]

So you are telling me that I could apply to this school with poor grades and get in just because of legacy? Maybe at some schools is highly regarded but I doubt it is at medical school. I am not going to lie. I have had DEANS pull my application at a medical school and actual committee members only to receive a rejection two weeks later. It doesn't work. In addition Huntergather, you know I have a competitive application as well.

No, I said I worked in undergrad admissions, only to demonstrate that legacy does come into play, although I don't know about med school admissions. I'm sure it is a consideration though.

 

[Fermata]

If it didn't matter at all then why would they ask?

 

[Jamers]

Lol, I remember a few of the allopathic schools I applied to secondary application was in this format:

1) Did any member of your family graduate from X school of medicine?

2) Please enclose your check for 100$

Thank you, drive through.

HAHA, Jefferson was like that. All of the questions were about if you knew someone that went to the school, was a grad. from the school, were you related to anyone who went to the school...no actual questions about medicine or anything about yourself. "Please tell us your family history and then send us 80 bucks, thanks."

 

[TTTTorrance]

quote:

It explains why one girl was admitted to my class. Her father was in the founding class of the school.

How do you know this? You know nothing about her qualifications or why she was admitted. Nice way to defame one of your classmates.

 

[USArmyDoc]

I will say taht if someone is borderline then legacy may help. It will probably also help because the interviewers wouldn't be to harsh on you.

 

[NonTradMed]

So you are telling me that I could apply to this school with poor grades and get in just because of legacy? Maybe at some schools is highly regarded but I doubt it is at medical school. I am not going to lie. I have had DEANS pull my application at a medical school and actual committee members only to receive a rejection two weeks later. It doesn't work. In addition, I have a competitive application.

Well, I don't believe legacy doesn't count, even if you do not have competitive scores.

Alot of my med school apps asks if I knew a family member who went to their school, or if my rec letter writer attended the school. If they don't use that to denote my application chances....what else would they use it for? Stats? Possible, but I'm not that optimistic.

Also, my parents are friends with a couple of attending who is connected to the local med school here, and during the application process, they told me there's a lot of legacy nepotism at the school. As long as you meet the minimal standards of the school and they knew your mom/dad or you're someone connected with "important" in the school, they'll let you in. This despite the fact the school rejects people whose GPA and MCAT scores are within their averages....so I think a bit of legacy is definitely in the works. Also, my undergrad's med school absolutely say school connections helps. I had friends who went through the process with them, they were assured of entry as long as their scores were within acceptable limits---there was no dancing around with them, unlike other med schools which may or may not give them interviews even if their numbers were fine.....

 

[USArmyDoc]

Well, I don't believe legacy doesn't count, even if you do not have competitive scores.

Alot of my med school apps asks if I knew a family member who went to their school, or if my rec letter writer attended the school. If they don't use that to denote my application chances....what else would they use it for? Stats? Possible, but I'm not that optimistic.

Also, my parents are friends with a couple of attending who is connected to the local med school here, and during the application process, they told me there's a lot of legacy nepotism at the school. As long as you meet the minimal standards of the school and they knew your mom/dad or you're someone connected with "important" in the school, they'll let you in. This despite the fact the school rejects people whose GPA and MCAT scores are within their averages....so I think a bit of legacy is definitely in the works. Also, my undergrad's med school absolutely say school connections helps. I had friends who went through the process with them, they were assured of entry as long as their scores were within acceptable limits---there was no dancing around with them, unlike other med schools which may or may not give them interviews even if their numbers were fine.....

It probably varies per school.

 

[mcat shmcat]

My dad went to the school I'm applying to but got in a bad car wreck his 3rd year. It took him a year to get better from the wreck, and since he was already 40+ knew it was the best decision to just continue denistry. Do you think this will hurt or help me?

 

[USArmyDoc]

My dad went to the school I'm applying to but got in a bad car wreck his 3rd year. It took him a year to get better from the wreck, and since he was already 40+ knew it was the best decision to just continue denistry. Do you think this will hurt or help me?

I doubt that would affect you at all. If it did, thats bull.

 

[OnMyWayThere]

Wonder if George Dub-ya got elected due in part to his daddy being a former president and his brother gov. of Florida - the state that had the miscount. Legacy has an affect at ALL levels - schools included. And being that most schools have 200 seats, that 1 person that slips in once in a while shouldn't be a big deal, really.