Accepted but thinking about reapplying...

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ToldYouSo said:
You're Hispanic, have a 3.6+ engineering gpa, a 35 MCAT and have already been accepted at a school.

This is one of those rare instances where I'll say that I believe that you have an exceedingly high chance of being accepted by other schools next year if you apply as early as possible.
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You may be failing to consider how a re-applicant with those characteristics is screened.
 
boomshark said:
I wont be a at all schools. I didnt apply as broadly as I should have.
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Reapplicant=reapplicant=reapplicant. Doesn't really matter where you did or did not apply. They ask if you have ever applied to med school before on nearly every secondary.
 
boomshark said:
I wont be a reapplicant at all schools. I didnt apply as broadly as I should have.
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It's a known fact that if you are offered a spot in any class and don't accept it (except for extremely extenuating circumstances), you will be blacklisted as a reapplicant. Adcoms talk to each other, they can see if you've applied before, they can see if you've been accepted, and they will have explicit questions on their apps asking if you've applied and been accepted previously... and why you rejected the offer. It will reflect extremely poorly on you. You might think they'll make an exception for you since you've had such a drastic improvement in your app, but trust me a 3.6/35 is NOT something they'll swoon over. sorry, just take your acceptance and run.
 
Why is everyone giving this guy such a hard time? He has valid reasons for reapplying that a school would understand. He improved from a 30 to 35 which is greater than 2 standard deviations and hugely significant. His MCAT is in the top 5% of test takers and he has a decent GPA. He is also a URM. This guy is practically a shoe-in wherever he applies.

The fact that he's withdrawing from a school he doesn't want to attend, which would give the spot to someone who really wants to go there, is a good thing. I swear people are just jealous or they don't want to compete with you next cycle.
 
kwel said:
It's a known fact that if you are offered a spot in any class and don't accept it (except for extremely extenuating circumstances), you will be blacklisted as a reapplicant. Adcoms talk to each other, they can see if you've applied before, they can see if you've been accepted, and they will have explicit questions on their apps asking if you've applied and been accepted previously... and why you rejected the offer. It will reflect extremely poorly on you. You might think they'll make an exception for you since you've had such a drastic improvement in your app, but trust me a 3.6/35 is NOT something they'll swoon over. sorry, just take your acceptance and run.
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You know for a fact he/she will be blacklisted???
 
if you actually turn it down and reapply theres a quote from tropic thunder that applies
 
gyngyn said:
If you withdraw, PM me with your info and I'll let you know if you appear on the National Acceptance Report.
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possibly, at least if I do it then for the next cycles people will know.
 
gyngyn said:
If you withdraw, PM me with your info and I'll let you know if you appear on the National Acceptance Report.
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I sure hope boomshark withdraws so we can know the answer once and for all !!!
 
Did the schools u applied to see/consider your 35 this round?

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I'm still amazed anybody would voluntarily go through this torturous and expensive application process again.😕

But I guess you're that crazy. Have fun and good luck!
 
boomshark said:
So here's the deal, I got accepted to one MD program this cycle but it's also one of the most expensive in the country. I would be looking at around ~320K in loans to a school I'm not too sure about. I am thinking of turning down the acceptance and reapply this upcoming cycle in the hopes of attending a school with lower tuition and possibly in my home state. What are your opinions?
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You're also giving up a year of earnings. Shouldn't you consider that?
 
Boomshark, you said that you talked to the advisor at your school. Did you talk to someone in admissions as well? You don't have to give them your name. Just say that you got an accpetance and your heart is set on their school instead. Ask out-right if declining this acceptance in an effort to reapply to their school would make you an undesireable candidate.
 
MiracleforMD said:
Reapplicant=reapplicant=reapplicant. Doesn't really matter where you did or did not apply. They ask if you have ever applied to med school before on nearly every secondary.
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I would have to at least somewhat disagree with this. I was a reapplicant and at least half of the applications I filled out only cared if you were a reapplicant to their school. In fact, I called one to see if I would be considered a reapplicant (to a school I had perviously applied) and they said unless I had applied the last cycle, they didn't care. I honestly don't feel like being a reapplicant is a bad thing (at least not from my experience).

I know someone who reapplied because she wasn't happy with her acceptance and got into a few schools she would rather go to the next time around. Not that I would ever do this (not willing to take that risk) but I don't think it is a huge issue as long as your application has improved and you change up your personal statement/essays to reflect what you have learned over the last year. Also, if you are really set on your state schools, I think even if they found out they wouldn't be put off by the situation, since your reasons include family and wanting to stay in your state (and hey, that's part of what every state school wants, right?).
 
Arbor Vitae said:
Why is everyone giving this guy such a hard time? He has valid reasons for reapplying that a school would understand. He improved from a 30 to 35 which is greater than 2 standard deviations and hugely significant. His MCAT is in the top 5% of test takers and he has a decent GPA. He is also a URM. This guy is practically a shoe-in wherever he applies.
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Stats are not everything. I know. I've applied with a 4.0/36 and been rejected everywhere I applied, even 'lower' tier schools. I absolutely hate it when people say that they are practically guaranteed an acceptance just because they have high stats. That's not the case.

MiracleforMD said:
Reapplicant=reapplicant=reapplicant. Doesn't really matter where you did or did not apply. They ask if you have ever applied to med school before on nearly every secondary.
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Actually, they don't. Being a reapplicant was a huge strategy of mine, so I talked about it a lot in my PS. But if I hadn't, a lot of the schools I applied to didn't care as long as I wasn't a reapplicant to their school. If you reapply to a given school, they pull your old file, which is why they want to know. If you've never applied there, then you're not considered a reapplicant to them because they don't have a previous record on you.

That said, I still think the OP's not the brightest in considering turning down an acceptance. Especially being so confident about getting an acceptance.
 
Hmm. OK. Maybe I just happened to pick a large amount of schools that asked about previous applications.

Varies by case I guess OP.
 
How about transferring to your state school 2nd year?
 
So I wont just join the band wagon here because thats not productive.

But I will say make sure that other schools can't see that you withdrew from an acceptance before withdrawing and reapplying.

Also, you should get into a FL school should you chose to reapply with those stats.
 
darklabel said:
So I wont just join the band wagon here because thats not productive.

But I will say make sure that other schools can't see that you withdrew from an acceptance before withdrawing and reapplying.

Also, you should get into a FL school should you chose to reapply with those stats.
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I agree completely. I called the AAMC yesterday and the guy I spoke to said he was certain my name wouldnt be on the list, but still a bit wary.
 
gonnif said:
That is incorrect. The national acceptance report will list ALL acceptances and will be available all schools after April of the current admissions cycle. The AAMC has also changed the policy so up to the last 5 years will be available.

from AAMC 2014 Advisors Webinar Q&A

Can medical schools see applicants’ prior acceptances from previous cycles?

If the applicant is accepted to a school that they applied to in a previous cycle (and were accepted), then the school will be able to view this prior acceptance after the current application is processed. While all schools have access to previous acceptances through a PDF report — the National Acceptance Report --that is released in April each year, it is up to the medical school to seek out this information. In other words, previous acceptances are not automatically pushed out to interested parties.
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I guess this begs the question as to what would provoke a school to check for previous acceptances? Just being a reapplicant may just make the schools think you didn't get in your first round, right?
 
NoControl1313 said:
I would have to at least somewhat disagree with this. I was a reapplicant and at least half of the applications I filled out only cared if you were a reapplicant to their school. In fact, I called one to see if I would be considered a reapplicant (to a school I had perviously applied) and they said unless I had applied the last cycle, they didn't care. I honestly don't feel like being a reapplicant is a bad thing (at least not from my experience).

One school where I interviewed the interviewer assumed I was a reapplicant (because I am a few years out of college) and, thus, previously rejected. When I said I was a first time applicant, the interviewer's demeanor towards me changed immediately for the better (I guess the interviewer thought being a reapplicant meant I was damaged goods). I was accepted. To say schools dont care if you are a reapplicant may be their official policy but you cannot bank on personal bias and interpretation when you're interviewing or being reviewed.

Take the acceptance.
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OP, you really should just call the school you wish to get into and explain to them your situation. They will tell how it would look to them and whether it's a good idea or not.
 
gonnif said:
That is incorrect. The national acceptance report will list ALL acceptances and will be available all schools after April of the current admissions cycle. The AAMC has also changed the policy so up to the last 5 years will be available.

from AAMC 2014 Advisors Webinar Q&A

Can medical schools see applicants’ prior acceptances from previous cycles?

If the applicant is accepted to a school that they applied to in a previous cycle (and were accepted), then the school will be able to view this prior acceptance after the current application is processed. While all schools have access to previous acceptances through a PDF report — the National Acceptance Report --that is released in April each year, it is up to the medical school to seek out this information. In other words, previous acceptances are not automatically pushed out to interested parties.
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The guy sounded like he knew what he was talking about, and the "National Acceptance Report, which lists all applicants with a current Acceptance or Matriculated action"
 
If I were you, I'd take the acceptance and run.

But ultimately it's your life, you got to do what you think is best. It's a tough choice, I wish you the best of luck in whatever route you choose.

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OP, try to make an appointment to speak with one of the Deans at the schools you're more interested in. Have them tell you what they think of your application, and explain your situation very clearly to them.

You seem like a very strong applicant and I'm sure you fully understand the risk of reapplying with an acceptance at hand. Personally, I think you have a very solid chance of being accepted into your state schools. Good luck!
 
I think he's already made his decision and is trollin you guys.
 
gonnif said:
Whether or not he has made his decision, it is useful to get a thread consensus for when this question comes up in the future; I usually get a few students a cycle who come up with the same self-imposed conundrum. If you may not be willing to take an acceptance to a specific medical school, then you should have not applied to it in the first place. For those students who always insist that they only will go to a few select schools (something that I almost always do not recommend) then they should only apply to them in their first cycle. if they dont get in, they can reconsider their options next cycle.

If they are an outstanding student who can make a very strong case as to why they want a specific school, then early decision is a possible path.

For some nontraditional/older students who have established roots, spouses, children, household, may have a strong requirement for remaining in a limited geographic area. Even so, these individuals may give up on medical school in order to preserve family
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are you an administrator of some kind?

anyways I think I got caught up in the whole mentality with the goal of just to be accepted, and forget things about price, location, family and all the other things. Picked schools based on stats instead of other things.
 
Didn't read the thread past the first few posts. I think you should reapply OP. Your improved stats + EC's + race put you in a very good position for an acceptance. Apply early and I think you'll do fine.

Anecdotal, but: one of the M1's at a school I interviewed at was in the same situation as you (got in out of state, declined the acceptance, reapplied, and got into their state school.) So it definitely is possible.
 
I respect the OP for keeping an eye on the overall cost of education (e.g. OOS tuition, living expenses, aggregate interest rate, and time-cost). Your stats are superior and I believe you might just be able to pull it off and get into a state school and save over $300K - $400K in interest over the life of the loan.
 
Your plan is a net loss. Unless the COA is >200k in difference, you are losing money by reapplying.

Don't look at debt, look at opportinuity costs. By delaying 1 year, you are cheating yourself out of 1 year attending salary.
 
notbobtrustme said:
Your plan is a net loss. Unless the COA is >200k in difference, you are losing money by reapplying.

Don't look at debt, look at opportinuity costs. By delaying 1 year, you are cheating yourself out of 1 year attending salary.
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First, a different in COA of 200k will translate to around 400k over time. A lot less than one year attending salary in most fields.

Second, money isn't everything. Would rather go to a place I'd be much happier with. Sure I'd "lose" but during the year off I'd be doing some awesome things.
 
Matriculate really. previous posts are true you don't know if you will be as lucky next year take your acceptance. Something similar happened to my brother withdrew for personal reasons and waited till next year. Unfortunately he wasn't lucky and was not accepted again.
 
Just a quick question that might be slightly off topic.

Can medical schools see the schools you got rejected by during the next cycle? I don't think so but just wanted to double check.
 
Can't you defer for 1 year? Make sure that its not binding?
 
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