Accepted to ASDOH!!

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yeah, they said they wont make decisions until January b/c of the holidays. also, they have to wait 45 days to get replies back from the Dec 1 acceptances.
 
I emailed Nan and Joyce last Friday, and received an email from Joyce today about my status. So, I didn't have to wait long and would definitely recommend others to email if they need to know their acceptance status in order to make a decision about accepting a spot at another school.
 
appleonius said:
yeah, they said they wont make decisions until January b/c of the holidays. also, they have to wait 45 days to get replies back from the Dec 1 acceptances.
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ASDOH only waits 30 days for dec. 1 acceptances
 
junebride08 said:
I emailed Nan and Joyce last Friday, and received an email from Joyce today about my status. So, I didn't have to wait long and would definitely recommend others to email if they need to know their acceptance status in order to make a decision about accepting a spot at another school.
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and???
 
I also emailed Joyce, and she emailed me back in a couple of days. She told me that I although I am being seriously considered, I was not in the next batch of acceptances.

So I think if ASDOH is on the top of your list, you might as well email her and she can give you a better idea of where you stand.
 
I emailed her yesterday ... we'll see what kind of response i get back.
 
eldirty said:
I emailed her yesterday ... we'll see what kind of response i get back.
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Can someone please PM me with Joyce's email? I have misplaced my paperwork from the interview and am wanting to find out more information on my application. Thank you in advance.
 
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One thing that I would like to add is that applicants should not hold their breath on schools that have "rolling admissions". Basically this means that if they don't accept you as soon as they can (in my mind) your opportunity "rolls" to the next group. While this is not where they derived the term, it certainly felt like that for me last year. For me it translated into being wait listed or placed on a holding list while they interview another 200 applicants and invited from the subsequent pools. (schools like Midwestern, ASDOH, Western etc. do this)

I did however see last year on SDN that some people that were placed in the "Top Group" on the wait list at ASDOH were later offered a spot in the class but I think this amounted to about 3 people that I was aware of. One of those that got in was a friend of mine but he had ( And I think the others) above average stats (21 DAT and 3.6 GPA) The rest that were offered spots interviewed late. If you don't have stellar stats, you probably are not top of their list on the wait list. ASDOH is famous for interviewing people (especially minorities) that have very low stats (I knew a guy with a 17 DAT and 2.8 sci GPA!! That got an interview 😱)

ASDOH also offered about 25 spots (I'm fairly certain) more than they had room for and only 40 or so spots on Dec 1st and about 12 more on Dec 15th 2007) This school (as many of you that interviewed there know) does a good job at interviewing people who really would want to attend. So don't expect it to be like USC where they invite 300+ people for half as many spots. If they invite 100 people total that would be high.

I was in very regular contact with ASDOH and their admissions staff last year but they were extremely vague (especially after Dec. 1st) and basically told me that they would look at the TOP of the waitlist second after they consider new interviewees. They always told me over the phone that they would have more info in ___ days (you could insert any day and they probably told it to me). Don't be fooled. They are just trying to do what is in their best interest. A great deal of my stress was caused by "Top-Group Letters" which was the form of questionable initial feedback that they gave all applications about 10 days after their interview. I don't think they do it anymore (thank goodness) but I got a letter saying I was in the "Top-Group" which was a lot different than what I imagined a group with the prefix "top" would have looked like. The purpose of the letter was to help the school drag applicants along for as long as possible and get them excited about attending ASDOH. They sent out rejection letters, alternate letters and "top-group" letters. The top group actually, I came to find out, contained several levels of which I was at the bottom (me and about 150 people I believe). This was the functional wait-list. The alternate list was a non-functional wait list and the new interviewees were getting 90% of the offers. Higher tiers of the "top-group" (this word still annoys me to this day) were offered acceptances Dec. 1st and about 2 weeks later. I found all this out through regular communication with the ad. com, not through sdn. I found SDN very unreliable for information about anything except for when people got in and how they were notified (the " Oh-no, do you think they got the right address?!" types )

Asking about your status will not hurt you but just keep everything in perspective. In my mind, if you interviewed early (before Dec. 1st) then you are old news. New people that either apply late (ASDOH and all rolling admission schools have the latest deadlines for applications), took the DAT late, or whatever have an advantage because they are part of a new interview cycle and are a new option for the admissions committee to review. The admissions committee (which normally consists of all the interviewers and maybe one office person) will meet RIGHT after your interview and decide your fate. So basically if you were not offered a spot yet, they have already looked you over and decided not to offer you one. This idea stressed the heck out of me last year because it was the only school I interviewed at (I'm not a minority but I certainly fit the school well and I had "average" stats) and I thought it was a really good school for me. I'm really glad I didn't get in there because Western opened up right near my house and I was able to accomplish a lot of meaningful things in my year off school. It's always possible that not getting in happens for a reason better than anything you could comprehend.

With all of that silliness on paper, I talked with a D1 student 2 years ago who said a student was admitted 2 weeks into the school year! Could you imagine getting a call in August to come start school the very next day?😀 Crazy.

I hope that helped, I had a lot to write because this was my life last year. Things could have changed since last year so you might defenestrate a lot of my info.
 
wow that was a long post sorry.
 
Valiant said:
One thing that I would like to add is that applicants should not hold their breath on schools that have "rolling admissions". Basically this means that if they don't accept you as soon as they can (in my mind) your opportunity "rolls" to the next group. While this is not where they derived the term, it certainly felt like that for me last year. For me it translated into being wait listed or placed on a holding list while they interview another 200 applicants and invited from the subsequent pools. (schools like Midwestern, ASDOH, Western etc. do this)

I did however see last year on SDN that some people that were placed in the "Top Group" on the wait list at ASDOH were later offered a spot in the class but I think this amounted to about 3 people that I was aware of. One of those that got in was a friend of mine but he had ( And I think the others) above average stats (21 DAT and 3.6 GPA) The rest that were offered spots interviewed late. If you don't have stellar stats, you probably are not top of their list on the wait list. ASDOH is famous for interviewing people (especially minorities) that have very low stats (I knew a guy with a 17 DAT and 2.8 sci GPA!! That got an interview 😱)

ASDOH also offered about 25 spots (I'm fairly certain) more than they had room for and only 40 or so spots on Dec 1st and about 12 more on Dec 15th 2007) This school (as many of you that interviewed there know) does a good job at interviewing people who really would want to attend. So don't expect it to be like USC where they invite 300+ people for half as many spots. If they invite 100 people total that would be high.

I was in very regular contact with ASDOH and their admissions staff last year but they were extremely vague (especially after Dec. 1st) and basically told me that they would look at the TOP of the waitlist second after they consider new interviewees. They always told me over the phone that they would have more info in ___ days (you could insert any day and they probably told it to me). Don't be fooled. They are just trying to do what is in their best interest. A great deal of my stress was caused by "Top-Group Letters" which was the form of questionable initial feedback that they gave all applications about 10 days after their interview. I don't think they do it anymore (thank goodness) but I got a letter saying I was in the "Top-Group" which was a lot different than what I imagined a group with the prefix "top" would have looked like. The purpose of the letter was to help the school drag applicants along for as long as possible and get them excited about attending ASDOH. They sent out rejection letters, alternate letters and "top-group" letters. The top group actually, I came to find out, contained several levels of which I was at the bottom (me and about 150 people I believe). This was the functional wait-list. The alternate list was a non-functional wait list and the new interviewees were getting 90% of the offers. Higher tiers of the "top-group" (this word still annoys me to this day) were offered acceptances Dec. 1st and about 2 weeks later. I found all this out through regular communication with the ad. com, not through sdn. I found SDN very unreliable for information about anything except for when people got in and how they were notified (the " Oh-no, do you think they got the right address?!" types )

Asking about your status will not hurt you but just keep everything in perspective. In my mind, if you interviewed early (before Dec. 1st) then you are old news. New people that either apply late (ASDOH and all rolling admission schools have the latest deadlines for applications), took the DAT late, or whatever have an advantage because they are part of a new interview cycle and are a new option for the admissions committee to review. The admissions committee (which normally consists of all the interviewers and maybe one office person) will meet RIGHT after your interview and decide your fate. So basically if you were not offered a spot yet, they have already looked you over and decided not to offer you one. This idea stressed the heck out of me last year because it was the only school I interviewed at (I'm not a minority but I certainly fit the school well and I had "average" stats) and I thought it was a really good school for me. I'm really glad I didn't get in there because Western opened up right near my house and I was able to accomplish a lot of meaningful things in my year off school. It's always possible that not getting in happens for a reason better than anything you could comprehend.

With all of that silliness on paper, I talked with a D1 student 2 years ago who said a student was admitted 2 weeks into the school year! Could you imagine getting a call in August to come start school the very next day?😀 Crazy.

I hope that helped, I had a lot to write because this was my life last year. Things could have changed since last year so you might defenestrate a lot of my info.
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Overall I agree with most of your post regarding admissions. They don't have very many spots. They were supposed to have a class of 66 last year but out of the 100 something acceptances they ended up accepting 68. Yes dental school is hard to get into, especially when it's a private school with a very small class size. However I strongly disagree with you comments that they accept/interview minorities with low stats. That's just an ignorant comment. I mean if you look at the demographics of the school it's predominately white, and if you look at the stats of minority students you'll find that they're on par or above with everyone else. Bottom line is that getting accepted dental school is a crap shoot. You have to compete with the smartest people from a schools across the country. On top of that you have to deal with those that have connections. There's many people in dental school that are there b/c their dad is an alumn or their dad donated money to the school. That's just reality. So while I agree that getting into ASDOH off the waitlist is a longshot, it is still not out of reach, and it's better that getting rejected!
 
Quattro DMD said:
Overall I agree with most of your post regarding admissions. They don't have very many spots. They were supposed to have a class of 66 last year but out of the 100 something acceptances they ended up accepting 68. Yes dental school is hard to get into, especially when it's a private school with a very small class size. However I strongly disagree with you comments that they accept/interview minorities with low stats. That's just an ignorant comment. I mean if you look at the demographics of the school it's predominately white, and if you look at the stats of minority students you'll find that they're on par or above with everyone else. Bottom line is that getting accepted dental school is a crap shoot. You have to compete with the smartest people from a schools across the country. On top of that you have to deal with those that have connections. There's many people in dental school that are there b/c their dad is an alumn or their dad donated money to the school. That's just reality. So while I agree that getting into ASDOH off the waitlist is a longshot, it is still not out of reach, and it's better that getting rejected!
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True That!!! There is still a possibility for all of us wait-listees! "Valiant" has a lot of negative comments, but many of which are based on assumptions. His comments regarding the hierarchy of the wait list are partially incorrect. At this point we are all equal on the list. After the interview, the DAT and GPA are less important than a person's overall character. Sure they have applicants that are more appealing than others, but it is because the school values their character, not because they scored higher on the DAT. ASDOH is a great school and that that is an understatement. They are pioneers for creating community minded dentists and making healthcare accessible to all regardless of race or income. I feel very passionately about their mission and support them 100%. There is nothing wrong with accepting minorities, even with lower scores. That's why they are called a minority. I understand we all have different upbringings which set us apart from stereotypes, but universities give minorities the benefit of the doubt in order to encourage more individual to work in that profession. ASDOH interviews so many applicants, because they want everyone to have an equal opportunity! Not to drag out the process lke some people assume. If you don't like the way ASDOH does things... don't apply there.. or withdraw your application and lighten up the waitlist for those who are truly committed to making a difference.
 
tiffster011 said:
True That!!! There is still a possibility for all of us wait-listees! "Valiant" has a lot of negative comments, but many of which are based on assumptions. His comments regarding the hierarchy of the wait list are partially incorrect. At this point we are all equal on the list. After the interview, the DAT and GPA are less important than a person's overall character. Sure they have applicants that are more appealing than others, but it is because the school values their character, not because they scored higher on the DAT. ASDOH is a great school and that that is an understatement. They are pioneers for creating community minded dentists and making healthcare accessible to all regardless of race or income. I feel very passionately about their mission and support them 100%. There is nothing wrong with accepting minorities, even with lower scores. That's why they are called a minority. I understand we all have different upbringings which set us apart from stereotypes, but universities give minorities the benefit of the doubt in order to encourage more individual to work in that profession. ASDOH interviews so many applicants, because they want everyone to have an equal opportunity! Not to drag out the process lke some people assume. If you don't like the way ASDOH does things... don't apply there.. or withdraw your application and lighten up the waitlist for those who are truly committed to making a difference.
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Good post 👍 I applied to ASDOH 4 times total before getting accepted. I even interviewed there the last three cycles in a row. Twice I was rejected post interview....I would have been thrilled to be on the waitlist!
 
weird...i interviewed post Dec 1 & today my AADSAS status shows up as invited for interview. fortunately it doesn't say denied so should i make anything out of it?
 
Congrats to those who got accepted at Arizona. I'm an alumni and now in specialty training. *My* opinion is that it's the best dental school out there. I was job hunting in Phoenix last week and stopped by the dental school to hang out with the dean for awhile. That's how much I enjoyed my education there!

Good luck to all!
 
appleonius said:
weird...i interviewed post Dec 1 & today my AADSAS status shows up as invited for interview. fortunately it doesn't say denied so should i make anything out of it?
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same for me ... that is weird. I emailed over a week ago and have yet to hear anything back regarding my status.
 
appleonius said:
weird...i interviewed post Dec 1 & today my AADSAS status shows up as invited for interview. fortunately it doesn't say denied so should i make anything out of it?
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Well I interviewed there on Dec9th and mine also says"invited to interview".
 
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I still havent heard back from my Dec. 12 email to Joyce ... what should I do?
 
Hmm.. I'm not sure. I think she might just be out for the holidays. Maybe just wait til after New Year's and see if you have any luck? I'm sure she gets a lot of emails regarding status stuff..

eldirty said:
I still havent heard back from my Dec. 12 email to Joyce ... what should I do?
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rdhdds1 said:
Can someone please PM me with Joyce's email? I have misplaced my paperwork from the interview and am wanting to find out more information on my application. Thank you in advance.
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did you hear anything back yet?
 
Me and my sister just withdrew our acceptances from ASDOH, so two more spots should be opening up! Good luck🙂
 
Thanks for the info trixie and sister ...
 
I still haven't heard anything ... At this point I would be happy to hear back with any news either way ... seriouly how hard is it to send someone a "no thanks" email
 
eldirty said:
I still haven't heard anything ... At this point I would be happy to hear back with any news either way ... seriouly how hard is it to send someone a "no thanks" email
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where do you plan on going if you dont hear back from asdoh?
 
Good question ... I'm thinking either tufts or vcu. What about yourself?
 
Weird, it's been almost a month!

The only thing I can think of is maybe she just skipped over it. I'm sure she gets a lot of emails and probably people that want status updates just because. What did you put in the subject line? I made sure to write something about having an acceptance at another school..

eldirty said:
I still haven't heard anything ... At this point I would be happy to hear back with any news either way ... seriouly how hard is it to send someone a "no thanks" email
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I finally got a call back and I was told that I was still being considered but that I was not in the top group for the next round 🙁
 
eldirty said:
I finally got a call back and I was told that I was still being considered but that I was not in the top group for the next round 🙁
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Sorry to hear that man. At least you had mulitple acceptances. That must be a good feeling! ASDOH is kind of random when they accept people. I'm not sure if there is a method to their madness.
 
Quattro DMD said:
Sorry to hear that man. At least you had mulitple acceptances. That must be a good feeling! ASDOH is kind of random when they accept people. I'm not sure if there is a method to their madness.
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during my interview i accidently walked into a room with a dartboard, had a bunch of names on there :shrug:
 
I interviewed there on Dec. 2nd and I am dying to hear back from them. I'm new to SDN and from what I've read on here they always call on Saturdays so every Saturday I'm on edge waiting for my cell phone to ring! I hope they start calling again soon.
 
If I get another acceptance in the next couple of weeks, do you think it would be inappropriate if I emailed Joyce again for an update? I don't want to be a pest, but since ASDOH is about the top school on my list, it would be nice to know if I'm even close. If not, I can just go with another school.

I also want to know how many spots are already taken...

Let me know what you guys think!
 
Waiting is soooo exciting! I cant wait to jump up and down, quit my job and go celebrate! Or go crawl in a hole and study if I get ****ty news.
 
WilsonJing said:
Waiting is soooo exciting! I cant wait to jump up and down, quit my job and go celebrate! Or go crawl in a hole and study if I get ****ty news.
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HAHAHAHA....I'm right there with you
 
Well, I emailed Joyce and got a response rather quickly.

She informed me that the next offers will be made early February.

AHHHH!!!!!!!
 
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early Feb ... has anyone heard anything
 
no, but I am dying here. will they call on a Sat? or do they not necessarily only do Sat?
 
I called a few times today, but couldn't seem to get anyone.
 
Hey I don't know if they've made the offers yet either!

TravelGirl, did you get any luck with them on the phone?

I'm not even sure if I REALLY want to go there anymore... so I might just decide on a school and assume I won't get in to ASDOH.

I don't know... let us know if any of you all get the call! 😀
 
Oh wow AFdental you got into UW ... thats a dream school. I only wish they let in more out of staters.
 
on predents a couple of students were rejected Feb 2nd. So i'm thinking they have met already

anyone going to call?
 
Depression. I heard back from Joyce and she said that the next round was end of february?? That's what she wrote in her email back to me as she told me I was not in the top group.
 
That doesnt make any sense ... "was" is past tense and the end of Feb. is in the future??
 
travelgirl, please clarify
 
I was at the school yesterday and the committee was meeting at three. Joyce has been out sick the last couple days.
 
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