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"Just know that you have some older folks that mean business to compete with."

Bring It On, Grandma/Grandpa!!!😛




teenie bopper
He he, no, im not offended at all!!! I agree with you (on some points), but your statements are just too harsh!

I think Labratty talks about Americans when he says teeny boopers. Not to offend you,Americans, in any way but from my personal opinion - Americans, as a culture are a lot more immature at the age of 20-22. This is because of the *****ic drinking age you guys have. When you guys reach 21 - all people want to do is to get drunk, get into the bar, hook up with some hotties and have wild fun get-togethers with other humans.😉 Us, Russians, having gotten it all out our system in our early teens - feel much more mature. I think by the age of 16 I have been to the craziest most drunken parties in my hometown and have tried pretty much every alcoholic beverage there was to try. By the age of 18 I couldn't even stand to look at the alcohol anymore. At 23 I go to a bar - once or twice a year.

 

[labrat024]

"Just know that you have some older folks that mean business to compete with."

Bring It On, Grandma/Grandpa!!!😛




teenie bopper
He he, no, im not offended at all!!! I agree with you (on some points), but your statements are just too harsh!

Harsh? really? That certainly was not my intention. I was just making a statement.....which I did not realize would arouse some peeps emotions. Anyways....I always like some good competition. Let's get it on!😉

 

[labrat024]

I think Labratty talks about Americans when he says teeny boopers. Not to offend you,Americans, in any way but from my personal opinion - Americans, as a culture are a lot more immature at the age of 20-22. This is because of the *****ic drinking age you guys have. When you guys reach 21 - all people want to do is to get drunk, get into the bar, hook up with some hotties and have wild fun get-togethers with other humans.😉 Us, Russians, having gotten it all out our system in our early teens - feel much more mature. I think by the age of 16 I have been to the craziest most drunken parties in my hometown and have tried pretty much every alcoholic beverage there was to try. By the age of 18 I couldn't even stand to look at the alcohol anymore. At 23 I go to a bar - once or twice a year.

That has not been my experience with yall Ruskes. All of my Russian acquaintances (that moved from Russia) are party animals and are very loud and overly obnoxious (to the point of annoyingness sometimes) and all have really horrible girl-pick-up tactics (sorry a bit off topic). The girls are a little better though. They just love hard-bangin' techno....and don't always drink to get smashed. They also say duuudde way too much.

 

[Terazosin]

Age is what it is...A number!! I have known people who knew what they wanted to do right out of high school. Some of them are still in the same career and love it, while other have since changed their minds upon entering the different world outside of college.

It is not about age, it is about MATURITY. Maturity will get you in or keep you out of pharmacy school. You can never be "too old" or "too young" to be a successful student or professional.

Being a person who looks very young I can honestly say from personal experience that many people will not give you respect upon first impression. It use to really bother me, but now I don't mind it as much. I guess there is a big difference from being 21 and looking 12 to being 32 and looking 23 😉. I am usually able to change their impression after our first conversation.

We all have faced some sort of prejudice. If a person feels more at ease speaking to someone who looks older then so-be-it. Who am I to compete with their own ignorance? I would prefer the person to be comfortable. Respect has to be earned and not demanded, some people just take a little longer to win over 🙂

 

[AbsoluteEthanol]

Sounds cool.....has to do with DNA/RNA stuff....right?

yeah, it's a cool job, so basically what i do is this:


1)our colleagues decode the mRNA sequence to disease causing proteins (before they are translated into proteins).
2)what i do is, synthetically create the complete compliment (or the minus mRNA molecule) of the disease causing mRNA and we inject it into sick animals (mice, rats, monkeys). The synthetically made complimentary strain binds to the disease causing mRNA and if you've taken immunology you know that whenever any cell in the human body senses a double stranded RNA molecule it IMMEDIATELY digests it. By destroying the mRNA, the disease causing proteins aren't able to be made... hence we can cure diseases that are currently thought of as incurable, such as ALL CANCERS! Chron's! Huntington's, and various auto-immune diseases.

it's truly groundbreaking work and when i get my pharmD/mBA i want to go back to this company and manage the crap out of it 🙂

 

[medicalCPA]

yeah, it's a cool job, so basically what i do is this:


1)our colleagues decode the mRNA sequence to disease causing proteins (before they are translated into proteins).
2)what i do is, synthetically create the complete compliment (or the minus mRNA molecule) of the disease causing mRNA and we inject it into sick animals (mice, rats, monkeys). The synthetically made complimentary strain binds to the disease causing mRNA and if you've taken immunology you know that whenever any cell in the human body senses a double stranded RNA molecule it IMMEDIATELY digests it. By destroying the mRNA, the disease causing proteins aren't able to be made... hence we can cure diseases that are currently thought of as incurable, such as ALL CANCERS! Chron's! Huntington's, and various auto-immune diseases.

it's truly groundbreaking work and when i get my pharmD/mBA i want to go back to this company and manage the crap out of it 🙂

Has this been tested in humans yet? Has it been shown to work? Sounds really innovative to me.

 

[AbsoluteEthanol]

OMG,,,, I often get "How come you are not a model?"
My answer is : "Do not have time to do that: I have a Biochemistry Degree to complete".

i feel you; I've been in various fitness magazines

 

[mrblah]

yeah, it's a cool job, so basically what i do is this:


1)our colleagues decode the mRNA sequence to disease causing proteins (before they are translated into proteins).
2)what i do is, synthetically create the complete compliment (or the minus mRNA molecule) of the disease causing mRNA and we inject it into sick animals (mice, rats, monkeys). The synthetically made complimentary strain binds to the disease causing mRNA and if you've taken immunology you know that whenever any cell in the human body senses a double stranded RNA molecule it IMMEDIATELY digests it. By destroying the mRNA, the disease causing proteins aren't able to be made... hence we can cure diseases that are currently thought of as incurable, such as ALL CANCERS! Chron's! Huntington's, and various auto-immune diseases.

it's truly groundbreaking work and when i get my pharmD/mBA i want to go back to this company and manage the crap out of it 🙂

or you could have said "i make rabbits lay eggs" in layman's terms😀, but on a serious note, there is some groundbreaking things happening in biochem, and tremendous potential in the future.

 

[nehe87]

I think that's a ridiculous and uninformed statement. The pharmacist I worked for couldn't have been older than 25, and all the customers/techs/other pharmacists seemed to respect her and take her seriously just like any other healthcare professional.
Honestly, it's all in the way you present yourself. I'm not quite 21, and people often tell me I seem/act more like 25. If I was walking around in flip-flops, shorts, and a t-shirt, yeah, people would definitely know I'm 20, but if you carry yourself with maturity and confidence (and dress well, that helps, too), there's no reason why people wouldn't take you seriously.
I resent being referred to as a "teenie bopper." I don't think I act like one. You could be thirty and still act like a teenie bopper. It has nothing to do with age, really.

Yes, I am serious. A 23-24 yr old pharmacist would look silly. I am NOT saying that they don't deserve respect. In the real world they would receive less respect than their elder pharmacists from customers, doctors, and employees. You can deny if you wish...but that is the way the world works. Employers do discriminate (not out right) against age......young and old. You may also be living in a fairy tale world where they don't discriminate against sex either.....well I got news for you, they do. An employer would much rather hire a male than a female with comparable stats because they won't have to worry about a guy going on maternity leave....its true.

Also, not all kids have BS's....especially not the 19-21 yr olds that I have been referring to. When some of these peeps get to the legal drinking age they may spend to much time away from their studies enjoying the 21 and up life. Also, a good portion of them don't work so that they can get the grades and because they are spoiled by mommy and daddy. They will not have the work experience that an older candidate would have. I am NOT trying to say ALL kids in this age group are spoiled, non-working, teet-suckling, alcoholics to be. So if you are a teenie bopper and offended by what I wrote...don't be mad. Just know that you have some older folks that mean business to compete with.

 

[labrat024]

I think that's a ridiculous and uninformed statement. The pharmacist I worked for couldn't have been older than 25, and all the customers/techs/other pharmacists seemed to respect her and take her seriously just like any other healthcare professional.
Honestly, it's all in the way you present yourself. I'm not quite 21, and people often tell me I seem/act more like 25. If I was walking around in flip-flops, shorts, and a t-shirt, yeah, people would definitely know I'm 20, but if you carry yourself with maturity and confidence (and dress well, that helps, too), there's no reason why people wouldn't take you seriously.
I resent being referred to as a "teenie bopper." I don't think I act like one. You could be thirty and still act like a teenie bopper. It has nothing to do with age, really.

That explains much of your view point. You are uninformed.

 

[labrat024]

yeah, it's a cool job, so basically what i do is this:


1)our colleagues decode the mRNA sequence to disease causing proteins (before they are translated into proteins).
2)what i do is, synthetically create the complete compliment (or the minus mRNA molecule) of the disease causing mRNA and we inject it into sick animals (mice, rats, monkeys). The synthetically made complimentary strain binds to the disease causing mRNA and if you've taken immunology you know that whenever any cell in the human body senses a double stranded RNA molecule it IMMEDIATELY digests it. By destroying the mRNA, the disease causing proteins aren't able to be made... hence we can cure diseases that are currently thought of as incurable, such as ALL CANCERS! Chron's! Huntington's, and various auto-immune diseases.

it's truly groundbreaking work and when i get my pharmD/mBA i want to go back to this company and manage the crap out of it 🙂

Ah yes....I remember learning about this in molecular bio. Wasn't there something about the length of the mRNA that was important too....maybe that was something else.

 

[InternDoc]

My dad started pharmacy when he was 50 y/o at Temple U. The school would not accept his Pharm degree from Vietnam so he have to start over.

 

[monsterbrain]

This thread is great- just has everything in it, a whole bouquet of fun things. 🙂 Conversation goes anywhere from teeny boops/pharmacists not being respected to hot MILFs wearing tube tops. Absolute Ethanol and Labratty I love reading all the threads you two post in.

So true. Cheburashka, you and Absolute Ethanol would be perfect for each other. Have you seen his myspace page? Damn! 😍

 

[zilko]

Getting back to the original post.

If anyone will feel out of place, I'll pass the half century before earning my PharmD (even at a 3 year school). Anyone under 40 should fit in just fine.

And to be honest, if you have the maturity to make it past the interview, age shouldn't matter, we're all focused on earning the degree, 21-50+ shouldn't matter, if anything the synergies of differing life experiences should be a great benefit.

Labrat, I feel you comments, it's a common thing for customers to approach me first when they have a question, thinking I'm the pharmacist. They always have that sheepish, apologetic look when I direct them down the counter to a younger pharmacist (it's sort of a running joke in my pharmacy because it happens so often).
P-)

 

[PharmApp2008]

I also look young. While talking to people on the way to interviews...like on the plane...I think they thought I was just getting out of high school. LOL..I am 27 with a bachelor's degree!

 

[AbsoluteEthanol]

Has this been tested in humans yet? Has it been shown to work? Sounds really innovative to me.

the technology is approximately 15 years old and because of (dumb ***) stringent FDA regulations there is only 1 theraputic application of antisense technology. However, the company that i work for has several cardiovascular disease, diabetes and cholesterol inhibitors in stage 3 of FDA trials.

So for many incurably sick folks 100% effective help is on its way!!!

 

[AbsoluteEthanol]

Ah yes....I remember learning about this in molecular bio. Wasn't there something about the length of the mRNA that was important too....maybe that was something else.

neh, length doesn't really matter that much... although, the longer the mRNA the more painstaking it is to decode it and make the antisense strand, unfortunately, most human disease causing agents are freakishly long😡

 

[AbsoluteEthanol]

So true. Cheburashka, you and Absolute Ethanol would be perfect for each other. Have you seen his myspace page? Damn! 😍

you think THAT's hot? you should see me in a labcoat + goggles! wooooo, brad pitt EAT YOUR HEART OUT!!!

 

[BlueCrayon]

yeah, it's a cool job, so basically what i do is this:


1)our colleagues decode the mRNA sequence to disease causing proteins (before they are translated into proteins).
2)what i do is, synthetically create the complete compliment (or the minus mRNA molecule) of the disease causing mRNA and we inject it into sick animals (mice, rats, monkeys). The synthetically made complimentary strain binds to the disease causing mRNA and if you've taken immunology you know that whenever any cell in the human body senses a double stranded RNA molecule it IMMEDIATELY digests it. By destroying the mRNA, the disease causing proteins aren't able to be made... hence we can cure diseases that are currently thought of as incurable, such as ALL CANCERS! Chron's! Huntington's, and various auto-immune diseases.

it's truly groundbreaking work and when i get my pharmD/mBA i want to go back to this company and manage the crap out of it 🙂

I do something similiar except I use shRNA in an expression vector. We use adenovirus to transduce the vector into islets to block expression of genes related to diabetes. Fun stuff!

 

[BlueCrayon]

the technology is approximately 15 years old and because of (dumb ***) stringent FDA regulations there is only 1 theraputic application of antisense technology. However, the company that i work for has several cardiovascular disease, diabetes and cholesterol inhibitors in stage 3 of FDA trials.

So for many incurably sick folks 100% effective help is on its way!!!

Isn't anti-TNF used to reduce inflammation in arthritis patients?

 

[JimblyUK]

the technology is approximately 15 years old and because of (dumb ***) stringent FDA regulations there is only 1 theraputic application of antisense technology. However, the company that i work for has several cardiovascular disease, diabetes and cholesterol inhibitors in stage 3 of FDA trials.

So for many incurably sick folks 100% effective help is on its way!!!

RNAi (RNA interference) is similar to antisense but is used way more now (at least in research). The discoverers of RNAi received the Nobel prize in Medicine in 2006. Not to say that antisense is no use at all, but in the future, expect new therapies to be based more on RNAi than antisense.

The mechanism of gene silencing is different to antisense. The advantage is that you only need a ~21 nucleotide double-stranded RNA. Knockdown is generally more efficient and specific than with antisense, and delivery may be more efficient in vivo (getting a smaller molecule into a cell). Also, making a smaller molecule is cheaper!

 

[Gitana]

Getting back to the original post.

If anyone will feel out of place, I'll pass the half century before earning my PharmD (even at a 3 year school). Anyone under 40 should fit in just fine.

Yes!!!! I'm not the oldest! I will be 47 when I graduate, if I can get in a 3-year program in 2009. But look at it this way: you're going to be 50+ anyway. You can be 50 and a pharmacy tech or 50+ and a pharmacist.

...it's a common thing for customers to approach me first when they have a question, thinking I'm the pharmacist. They always have that sheepish, apologetic look when I direct them down the counter to a younger pharmacist (it's sort of a running joke in my pharmacy because it happens so often).
P-)

Also you need to understand that when a person goes to you and you're older, they unconsciously assume that you've been doing this for the longest time, just because they have no reason to think otherwise. If you go to a doctor and she looks 20, of course you're like: Is she really a doctor? for how long? When your doctor is 60, it never crosses your mind that he can be a recent graduate.

Now, for you kids, think that if a person is a non-traditional student, it's very probable that he/she is just non-traditional, period. No need to feel like you can't be yourself around us just because we're older. THAT makes me feel old. In my family I'm that cool auntie whose nephews/nieces love to hang out with. So just be yourselves. Don't make me feel even older, pleeeezzzz.

 

[zilko]

Gitana, thpppppppppp!

Trust me I won't be a Pharm tech at 50. 😉

 

[monsterbrain]

you think THAT's hot? you should see me in a labcoat + goggles! wooooo, brad pitt EAT YOUR HEART OUT!!!

And he has personality too!

 

[labrat024]

RNAi (RNA interference) is similar to antisense but is used way more now (at least in research). The discoverers of RNAi received the Nobel prize in Medicine in 2006. Not to say that antisense is no use at all, but in the future, expect new therapies to be based more on RNAi than antisense.

The mechanism of gene silencing is different to antisense. The advantage is that you only need a ~21 nucleotide double-stranded RNA. Knockdown is generally more efficient and specific than with antisense, and delivery may be more efficient in vivo (getting a smaller molecule into a cell). Also, making a smaller molecule is cheaper!

This is what I was remembering from my molecular bio class. There was just so much info to digest and regurgitate (600 pages / semester). So it looks like size does matter! The two techniques are very similar in principle except the RNAi technique uses small dsRNAs (siRNA) to inactivate/degrade the targeted mRNA.

 

[uncinmyheart]

i like this thread too 🙂 by the way, what the heck is a MILF whatever it is.......???
i'm 25 (though i look 19) and i'm still trying to finish my b.s degree. by the time i get into pharmacy school, i hope i won't be older than 27. (yikes!)

 

[lessotto]

i like this thread too 🙂 by the way, what the heck is a MILF whatever it is.......???
i'm 25 (though i look 19) and i'm still trying to finish my b.s degree. by the time i get into pharmacy school, i hope i won't be older than 27. (yikes!)

just Google MILF!!!
Stifler's Mom from American Pie would be one!!!!

 

[medicalCPA]

I didn't know what it meant, so I Googled it. TMI.

Uncinmyheart, MILF = Mothers I'd like to ****. Now you won't say you don't know.😉

 

[kaseyrenee2012]

ill be 20 when i start. (ive been told i look 16 though 🙁 )

i always knew there would be a huge range of people... but i never thought it would bother me. although, i might feel pressure to not look like a complete scrub 20 year old in class like i do so often now 🙂.

i was incredibly intimidated at my interview when i was surrounded with people in their 30's with multiple degrees.... i am honestly worreid that i will be WAY behind a lot of you in many ways... whether it be education (ive only had two years of undergrad) or maturity level (again, only 20). its going to be strange in such a mixed crowd... from people like me who would be a junior in college, with not much to worry about other than getting through school as opposed to those of ya'll with families.

it will be quite an experience, and i'm really excited for it. so in response to the original question... go for it. just expect youngins like me to be slightly intimidated 🙂



do some of ya'll really think it will be hard for those of us graduated at 23/24 to get a job? i always heard the job market was great for pharmacy...

 

[tharper14]

ill be 20 when i start. (ive been told i look 16 though 🙁 )

i always knew there would be a huge range of people... but i never thought it would bother me. although, i might feel pressure to not look like a complete scrub 20 year old in class like i do so often now 🙂.

do some of ya'll really think it will be hard for those of us graduated at 23/24 to get a job? i always heard the job market was great for pharmacy...

Hey kasey... I had no idea you were so young! I think it's so great when 18, 19, 20 year olds know what they want to do at such a young age and have the determination to do it. I didn't have a clue what I wanted to do at 20 so I have tremendous respect for the younger people in the class.

On the flip side, I'll be 30 when I start in the fall, so I'll probably be one of the older, if not the oldest in the class. It doesn't bother me too much... I still feel like I'm 20, I just don't look it anymore!

Btw, I dress like a bum when I go to school... jeans, flip-flops, baseball cap... so don't worry about dressing up for us older folk! Although I heard you have to dress business casual for some classes, ughhh...

I'm really excited about meeting such a diverse bunch of people too! See you in the fall!