Air Force AEGD bases?

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Just curious if anyone knows what AF bases have the AEGD program? I've heard 10 bases do but only know of Langely, Wright-Patterson and Eglin. Anyone know the others?

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How about the NAVY?
 
Wright-Patterson- Dayton, OH
Langley-Hampton, VA
Travis-Fairfield, Ca
Barksdale-Shreveport, La. Sometimes the AEGD for C dentists, usually the AEGD for B dentists. Let me know if this needs clarification
Eglin-around Panama City, FL
Sheppard-Wichita Falls, TX
Scott- outside of St. Louis, IL (kind of)
Bolling-Wash, DC
Andrews- Wash, DC
Keesler-Biloxy, MS
Nellis- Las Vegas, NV
Air Force Academy- Colorado Springs, CO

The AEGD-2 is either at Lackland AFB, San Antonio, TX or at Bethesda with the Navy.

I don't think there is one at Offut AFB in Omaha, Nebraska anymore.
 
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Wright-Patterson- Dayton, OH
Langley-Hampton, VA
Travis-Fairfield, Ca
Barksdale-Shreveport, La. Sometimes the AEGD for C dentists, usually the AEGD for B dentists. Let me know if this needs clarification
Eglin-around Panama City, FL
Sheppard-Wichita Falls, TX
Scott- outside of St. Louis, IL (kind of)
Bolling-Wash, DC
Andrews- Wash, DC
Keesler-Biloxy, MS
Nellis- Las Vegas, NV
Air Force Academy- Colorado Springs, CO

The AEGD-2 is either at Lackland AFB, San Antonio, TX or at Bethesda with the Navy.

I don't think there is one at Offut AFB in Omaha, Nebraska anymore.

There is still one at Offutt (at least there are residents there right know). I don't know if they have stopped taking new ones.
 
I also heard that they are in the process of getting an AEGD-1 up and running in Anchorage, AK...anyone heard about this?
 
I heard about that one and/or one at Ramstein. Nothing more than hear-say.
 
Wright-Patterson- Dayton, OH
Langley-Hampton, VA
Travis-Fairfield, Ca
Barksdale-Shreveport, La. Sometimes the AEGD for C dentists, usually the AEGD for B dentists. Let me know if this needs clarification
Eglin-around Panama City, FL
Sheppard-Wichita Falls, TX
Scott- outside of St. Louis, IL (kind of)
Bolling-Wash, DC
Andrews- Wash, DC
Keesler-Biloxy, MS
Nellis- Las Vegas, NV
Air Force Academy- Colorado Springs, CO

The AEGD-2 is either at Lackland AFB, San Antonio, TX or at Bethesda with the Navy.

I don't think there is one at Offut AFB in Omaha, Nebraska anymore.

What do you mean by AEGD C or B dentists? Also, I have a friend at Omaha's AEGD right now. Did you hear they were going to close it after this last class?
 
I recant by statement about Omaha. They do have one.

There are three types of AF dentists (maybe Navy and Army too, I don't know).

A vanilla dentist if one who joins and chooses not to do a residency. In my opinion not the best professional move. They don't get credentialed to do too much. See previous posts.

A C-dentist is one who comes out of dental school and does an AEGD-1 residency. These are at all the bases listed above except Barksdale in Shreveport, LA. This is an excellent residency

A B-dentist is normally one who has practiced in the civilian world for a number of years and has decided to join the AF. This residency is offered at Barksdale. This is a watered-down version of the C-residency.
I learned yesterday that the AF is "thinking" about getting rid of the B-residency and either offering the C-res or making "experienced" dentists do a three or four month time frame to get "up-to-speed" with the AF way of doing things.

An A-residency called the AEGD-2 is a two year general dentistry residency offered at either Lackland AFB or Bethesda Navel Hospital. There used to be one at Keesler, but I think it’s gone. This is a very extensive residency. These dentists are "board eligible". They can take a board exam, like other specialties, and qualify for more money.

The A's, B's, and C's all get bonus money. A>B>C. A C-dentist can become a B after practicing for two years as a C, then taking a year long correspondence course. This is mostly about field dentistry and some other aspects. After this is over, the C becomes a B. It is a pretty good chunk of change difference in bonus money.

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So, if I understand this correclty: a C-dentist can eventually become a B dentist through experience and a correspondence course. Can a B dentist eventually become an A dentist without attending the AEGD 2?
 
No. You would have to go to the AEGD-2 program
 
You can apply for the AEGD-2, but you have about as good a chance getting in as applying to OMS after high school. Clearly an exageration. I know a guy who went to the AF Academy, President of his Dental Class, tons of awards, etc, etc. and didn't get in. You would finish your AEGD-1 then apply. I know another guy who finished his AEGD-1, practiced for one year as a general dentist and then got in. So the lag time might only be one year.

They want to see you are a good dentist and a good officer. AEGD-2 grads usually end up running a clinic or being a residency director. Some are even Med Group deputy directors.
 
it's almost sounding like if you dont do any type of residency your time w/ the military will basically suck. And by suck i mean you wont get to really see or do much of anything and you'll just be spinning your wheels. Is this true? I met a girl at COT who graduated from dschool...chose not to do residency..and got stationed somewhere she didnt want. but she still feels she got enough experience in dschool to where she doesnt really "need" it and the AF is upset w/ her b/c they feel she is just doing her "3 and out". Is this true? if you dont do a residency will you basically do nothing but drill and fill all day? if that? And just to clarify..she chose not to do residency right away b/c she wasnt sure how she would like military life b/c she's not used to it..but said she's not opposed to doing something later on in her career.
 
It depends what your definition of sucking is (dental wise). As I stated before, in the military, each doctor has to meet a credentials board. You put down what you "want to do" and the board tells you what you can do. Think about it. Right out of dental school I would be hard pressed to think too many dentists are ready to take out fully impacted 3rds, do frenectomies, connective tissue grafts, open flap curettage with apically positioned flaps, endo retreats, or more "involved" soft tissue biopsies. That is what additional training is for. A "vanilla" dentist (see definition on previous post) should be more than capable of placing amalgams, composites, crown and bridge, and endos. That is what they will do. Just like in the civilian world, years= continuing education.

You can get credentialed to do things by working with others who are credentialed. This is a way to do more advanced general dentistry, but it takes time and a willing mentor.

If your friend decided not to do an AEGD that's fine. It is up to the individual. I certainly hope that people aren't giving her slack for doing her time and leaving. That is her right too. It should be respected. She is giving back to her country and getting her education paid for. Its a good deal.

Trust me, doing a residency certainly doesn't mean you get to go where you want. I definitely didn't choose may base.
 
very understandable. Like i said, she only did it b/c she wants to see how she likes military life first before she commites longer than she would necessarily want to...and yes they did give her flack, but at the same time we were told at COT that they understand people do the 3 or 4 and out..and it is their right to do so. I'm just starting school in the fall so I know i'm really jumping the gun. But I can't help to think about it. Right now I would not be opposed to making a career as a dentist in the military..but I dont know for sure what the future will hold. If I did the AEGD plus the 4 yr pay back and decided to leave...i'd be 32. I think you, or someone else said that if you dont do a residency you are almost doomed to be stuck on an amalgam line. Is that the case? How does the board decide who is capable of doing what right out of school? During my time in the military i'd like to see and do as much as possible..learning as much as possible is really important to me. I'd like to try and get this stuff answered sooner than later..just to put my mind at ease.
 
I planned on doing my three years and getting out. Now I'm starting OMS. I don't know if I will just do my payback (11 years) total, or go career. No one plans on doing it for a career. I think you just find a niche and go with it. There are many pluses but definitly minuses (moving every 3-4 years).

At the end of your residency, your director sends your credential recommendations to your gaining base. The credential folder has a list of about every possible dental procedure in every specialty. Your director fills this out with guidance from the specialists you worked under in the AEGD.

It works like this. You are given a "1" if you can do this unsupervised, a "2" if you can do it, but you need to have someone with a "1" to supervise you, a "3" if your base does not support this procedure (use of a laser for ex), or a "4" if you flat out can't do it. A "4" for example would state a general dentist can't do radical neck disections for cancer patients.

I honestly don't know how they credential someone who doesn't do a residency. I have sat on the board. You probably will work on an "amalgam line", do single unit crowns, lots of exams, and maybe some endo. It is just general stuff.

If you, like you said, want to "see and do as much as possible..learning as much as possible is really important to me.", then consider the AEGD. You will definitly see and do more. Plus 32 y/o isn't that old. I personnaly think the extra year is worth it.
 
I planned on doing my three years and getting out. Now I'm starting OMS. I don't know if I will just do my payback (11 years) total, or go career. No one plans on doing it for a career. I think you just find a niche and go with it. There are many pluses but definitly minuses (moving every 3-4 years).

At the end of your residency, your director sends your credential recommendations to your gaining base. The credential folder has a list of about every possible dental procedure in every specialty. Your director fills this out with guidance from the specialists you worked under in the AEGD.

It works like this. You are given a "1" if you can do this unsupervised, a "2" if you can do it, but you need to have someone with a "1" to supervise you, a "3" if your base does not support this procedure (use of a laser for ex), or a "4" if you flat out can't do it. A "4" for example would state a general dentist can't do radical neck disections for cancer patients.

I honestly don't know how they credential someone who doesn't do a residency. I have sat on the board. You probably will work on an "amalgam line", do single unit crowns, lots of exams, and maybe some endo. It is just general stuff.

If you, like you said, want to "see and do as much as possible..learning as much as possible is really important to me.", then consider the AEGD. You will definitly see and do more. Plus 32 y/o isn't that old. I personnaly think the extra year is worth it.

It's true that you need to do some sort of residency to be credentialed to do something. However, if you end up at a base that's lacking specialist, your commander may let you get away with doing more advance dental procedures.


Snoz, are you going to be training at Lackland or Travis? I
 
yea that's true, but remember, your commander has to be credentialed to do the procedure. You still must have a "2" on your six part folder to be allowed to do it even if your commander "lets you". This goes back to "earning" new credentials. Your commander can't say, "hey go ahead and make this guy a new face because we don't have maxillofacial prosthodontist".
 
yea that's true, but remember, your commander has to be credentialed to do the procedure. You still must have a "2" on your six part folder to be allowed to do it even if your commander "lets you". This goes back to "earning" new credentials. Your commander can't say, "hey go ahead and make this guy a new face because we don't have maxillofacial prosthodontist".

of course. That goes without saying.

Hey Snoz, i'm planning to apply to Travis or Lackland OMFS program in a couple of years. I've taken the GRE and got 1200, my board scores for I is 91 and II is 86. How is the competition and is there a difference b/w the Lackland and Travis programs?

thanks
 
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