Anesthesia employment

[dwthree]

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First time poster even though I've been on the site for a few years. I'm a second year DO student considering anesthesia. I was told by an anesthesiologist (MD) that I would have a difficult time finding anesthesia employment as a DO. I'm aware that it is imperative to train in an allopathic institution, but was concerned that this may be a realistic issue. Is there any truth to this? Thanks in advance.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

The first thing I would do is try a search, there is lots of great info in this forum going a long way back. there are many DO's on here, although a lot of the time it you can't tell who has what degree and it doesn't really matter.

Although I strongly believe that an ACGME residency and ABA board-certification is the "gold standard", your life is far from over if you go the DO route, there just aren't that many total who go this route, much less users on this board.

There are lots of factors that determine what kind of job you will get, but for the most part MD=DO when it comes to job-hunting.

Others may disagree, but I feel that in certain rare instances, there is a bias against DO's sometimes in pursuing employment.

 

[hivoltage]

you will have difficulty finding a job DO or MD. But i dont think the DO will hurt you as long as you are BD certified by the ABA.

 

[CrazyJake]

I think where you train for your Anesthesia residency is going to be more important than your degree when it comes time to find a job.

PP jobs are more competitive now...A DO from a top tier place is going to get picked vs a MD at a low-tier program (and vice versa).

ACGME/ABA is the gold standard and is what you should aim for if your going to do Anesthesia. I think there are a couple decent DO Anesthesia programs (most aren't worth a crap), but even they can't compete with the large, busy academic centers where most Anesthesia residencies exist.

As a DO/CA1 I've started casually looking for jobs and the first question PP grps ask me, is where are you training vs are you a MD OR DO.

Goodluck,
CJ

 

[EmmaNemma]

you will have difficulty finding a job DO or MD. But i dont think the DO will hurt you as long as you are BD certified by the ABA.

Looking at gasworks, there are over 500 positions being advertised for. Is it really that hard to find a job after residency? It seems like there is a shortgage of trained anesthesiologists? Thanks.

 

[jwk]

you will have difficulty finding a job DO or MD. But i dont think the DO will hurt you as long as you are BD certified by the ABA.

The sky still falling?

 

[pgg]

you will have difficulty finding a job DO or MD.

Perhaps if you limit your search to a specific desired city.

Unemployed anesthesiologists are either unemployed by choice or unemployable for reasons unrelated to the job market.

 

[Yo GabbaPentin]

Looking at gasworks, there are over 500 positions being advertised for. Is it really that hard to find a job after residency? It seems like there is a shortgage of trained anesthesiologists? Thanks.

When I was a CA1, there were 2500 jobs available on gasworks. That was 2 years ago.

 

[Yo GabbaPentin]

The is no universal truth about the job market and the best way to find a job. Some groups might prefer MDs over DOs, some might really like only UCSF applicants etc. IMHO, the MD/DO debate tends to live and die in the premed forums.

The BEST advice that I could give you is to go to an ACGME program CLOSE to where you think you want to live. If your ultimate goal is to practice in Wisconsin, do your best to get into MCW or UW. Having local connections is more important than a Harvard training with no local connections. If you don't care where you live after residency, go to the best ACGME program you can. 95% will give you more than adequate training to be a competent anesthesiologist.

 

[EmmaNemma]

When I was a CA1, there were 2500 jobs available on gasworks. That was 2 years ago.

That's kind of scary. I may have to consider some other specialties.

 

[El Dooderino]

That's kind of scary. I may have to consider some other specialties.

all of the best jobs are not on gasworks

 

[IlDestriero]

you will have difficulty finding a job DO or MD. But i dont think the DO will hurt you as long as you are BD certified by the ABA.

Everyone I know got/has a good job, including our soon to be grads. People leaving the faculty go to good (better?) jobs. Some old dudes put off retirement because they lost 10-40% on their house, stocks tanked and they're still way down, etc. How much longer are they going to put it off? 2 more years? Not likely much more.
I've had people email me about relocating and I'm not the best connected angler out there. Jet started his own group. The work is there. Gaswork, while interesting, does not reflect how most people get hired. Perhaps fewer people have to advertise because they're getting approached directly. Does anyone actually know any anesthesiologist out of work, or working for CRNA wages? (excepting anyone fired/laid off in the last few months, or people with really shady pasts). It's possible someone with ultra restrictive geographic limits is working for peanuts in some hell hole, but that's their choice. In a few years the natural progression will continue, partners will retire, Jr associates will partner up, all will be well.

 

[ambiturner]

That's kind of scary. I may have to consider some other specialties.

note that the job decrease YoGabba alluded to happened in the last 2(ish) years - as a ca-3 (s)he picked the field 5-6 years ago. you really have no idea what will happen in the job market, what reimbursement the govt will decide to cut, or what you'll actually enjoy doing when you get to med school, so it helps to keep an open mind. congrats and good luck!

 

[Yo GabbaPentin]

note that the job decrease YoGabba alluded to happened in the last 2(ish) years - as a ca-3 (s)he picked the field 5-6 years ago. you really have no idea what will happen in the job market, what reimbursement the govt will decide to cut, or what you'll actually enjoy doing when you get to med school, so it helps to keep an open mind. congrats and good luck!

Exactly. Fortune telling can be tough. Who knows what it will be like 5 or 10 years down the road. Pick the specialty you enjoy and not the one with the most jobs or money (unless it is derm of course).