angry at girls

[a_student]

so this is just a ranting thread...

anyone else like me? sometimes i get really angry at girls... i mean in terms of ppl and friends they're nice and all, but once it comes down to dating their soooo freaking selfish, just concerned about themselves...

i feel as though i can't trust them, and they're not worth my time cause in the end they'll be just looking after themselves in the relationship, and sure they might care for you as long as the relationships going well, but once it goes south they don't give a flying *bleep* about you

also i feel as though they're so cunning! whenever i've lied to a gf its so obvious that it doesn't take a minute for her to find out. but dayam i need to learn a lessen from girls, their lies are just perfect, and they seem so innocent on the outside

screwem i'd rather stick to my career that can get me somewhere, not waist my time on someone who'll make me angry and unhappy in the end

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[myfavred]

Ok I am not trying to be mean or anything. I am just comparing and if you read posts by smilemaker100 she has posted the same kind of stuff about guys. So may be you two should discuss life sometimes.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=3036434&postcount=50

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=3037743&postcount=54
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=3037743&postcount=55
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=3054236&postcount=63

Again I am not picking on her or on you. It just kinda struck me that you two think alike about the opposite sex. Anyways hope you are getting over your recent breakup.

 

[a_student]

funny i completely agree w/ smile_makers posts about guys not being able to have a life-long one time partner,

but that wasn't what i was talking about, my focus here is how girls are so calculating...

i mean look at guys, pretty simple minded, they look at a girl whose pretty and smiles alot and start liking them, and pursue them... after a while the guy doesn't like the girl anymore and they break up

now girls... from day one are seeing what kind of potential the guy has, they look around to make sure the guys the best thing they can do and if so try to hunt him down, if not, they either tease him or shootem down like a duck (i've been hunted, teased, and shot-down by different girls)

it just always seems like there's some wierd thing going on their conniving heads, its made me pretty bitter and angry at them, and see them in a very negative light when it comes to relatinoships (i'm not talking about friends here, i've had some great female friends)

 

[brains]

geez! That's a lot of criticism! I think guys a re A LOT differnet from girls. However, not all girls are created equal. Yeah, we are brought up to take care of our figure,hair and nails,but that's because we see what guys like and so we do it. As for being self-centered in a relationship, that's a different story. We do pay attention to tiny, microscopic details, but that's just our nature.

What knid of girls are you going after? Where do you meet them?
Honestly, I dont' think I or any of my friends are that way.

But feel free. Rant On.

 

[LADoc00]

so this is just a ranting thread...

anyone else like me? sometimes i get really angry at girls... i mean in terms of ppl and friends they're nice and all, but once it comes down to dating their soooo freaking selfish, just concerned about themselves...

i feel as though i can't trust them, and they're not worth my time cause in the end they'll be just looking after themselves in the relationship, and sure they might care for you as long as the relationships going well, but once it goes south they don't give a flying *bleep* about you

also i feel as though they're so cunning! whenever i've lied to a gf its so obvious that it doesn't take a minute for her to find out. but dayam i need to learn a lessen from girls, their lies are just perfect, and they seem so innocent on the outside

screwem i'd rather stick to my career that can get me somewhere, not waist my time on someone who'll make me angry and unhappy in the end

Okay, but I would still rather put up with crap and actually get laid than the alternative: you+KY+internet porn...

 

[ihsak4health]

Ok friend of male origin. It may be such that the girls you choose are similar in their character and therefore, continue to disappoint you in the ways you mentioned. You know, what goes around comes around and I believe if you genuinely care for someone, the right type of somone, then they would be civil and nice.

I know when I break up w/ ex boyfriends, regardless of the reason or who proposed it, I tend to prefer being mean or uncaring b/c it helps with the healing process. Yea, its no fun and maybe all girls think guys don't get hurt.

But, yea, don't shut the door so fast. All will work

 

[benelswick]

Nautre has evolved the human female species into a complex creature capable of multi-tasking many aspects of the mating endeavor.

i agree we men are not so well equiped socially and feel much more comfortable in the more simple aspects of relating to our opposites.

Rather than frustration which has no conclusion, i suggest acceptance, and a celebration of your own capabilities and character traits, as your are the only one who has to answer for your life.

I kind of enjoy the mystery of women. I don't even waste my time trying to understand them in some sense of finality. That would spoil the dance.

Keep your head up bro! The punches keep coming, even when you find one you want to be with for life. Sometimes you get so confused you end puching yourself in the face. best of luck, man!--Ben.

 

[Pretty POHA]

If you guys knew the answers to all of our secrets, you'd probably never date us again, though. So we keep you guessing and you keep...well, guessing.
Not to say every woman is conniving, because I, for one, am very kind and try to be honest when I can... but men and women are different from each other... that's why there's an attraction between men and women-- the complementarity of it all... And the sex...

 

[Redneck]

Here's my 23 cents...

Abstract: Learn as much as you can from them by socializing, improve yourself, research these creatures, and get your feet wet.

You're almost there. You have realized they have teeth but you don't know what to do. First thing is don't refer to them as girls. Girls still play with dolls or are under 18 and present you with a one way ticket to jail. You are after women. They are being hurtful to you for one of three reasons: 1) they are just evil, 2) they aren't interested in you and are waiting for the next prospect 3) they are interested in you and are letting their fear of losing their independence out on you in mean ways (they won't do this if they are marriage hunting). To figure out which they are you need to know them. Talk to all women - old, young, ugly, hot, fat, and then LISTEN. It's hard to listen but train yourself. No, you didn't hear me I said listen. That's right listen and repeat back to them wait they say and ask them questions. Eventually you'll learn their 'language' and notice commonalities between them all and especially the cohort your most interested in and which to STAY AWAY FROM -some women you can't have and shouldn't want to have - know which are which from spending time with them all. If you can sincerely listen and communicate with the ugliest, nasty woman out there, and make her feel a little better about herself because you sincerely cared about her thoughts/feelings you'll be prepared for when it counts. If she is a reason number three and simply afraid of opening up to you here are some tips. Improve yourself and make your stock rise - strive to be more confident, exercise, stay well groomed, know how to dance (if you don't the guy who does will steal her from you), don't be the complete nice guy show a pinch of ass hole, compliment her regularily on the things she was born with (body parts) and you MUST compliment on the things she sees as her identity like quick wit, compassion, aggression in her job - this is often hard but if your lucky you'll find the thing her father adores about her most. Find the core thing(s) she prides herself in that make up her identity (if you can do this it shows you've been listening, you care, and might be worth opening up to), mixed with meaningful gifts at random times, listening to her, soothing her insecurities, making yourself a man with status (charlie daniels of the torque wrench or thought of highly by your neighbors or top dog on a sports team can all work - anything that proves your not a loser), and showing that you can be a good father to her children will make her melt for you. If she still bails then you either failed or she's too much work.

Random tips: READ. Read their garbage when your in waiting rooms - Vogue and whatever else is out there. Read magazines like men's health. Read books on sex, dating, psychology, cooking, exercise, etc. to increase your knowledge and compliment what you learn from talking with them. This should be enough to arm you with spotting their lies and BS. Your best friends girlfriends/wives are valuable resources to talk with and learn from. Don't put up with stupid stuff - relationship dynamics are set in like the first month or six. If you let her manipulate you from the get go your screwed. Date and test out what you learned. Don't commit the same stupid mistake twice. Once your a victim/screwed up, twice your a hopeless fool.

 

[Smilemaker100]

Here's my 23 cents...

Abstract: Learn as much as you can from them by socializing, improve yourself, research these creatures, and get your feet wet.

You're almost there. You have realized they have teeth but you don't know what to do. First thing is don't refer to them as girls. Girls still play with dolls or are under 18 and present you with a one way ticket to jail. You are after women. They are being hurtful to you for one of three reasons: 1) they are just evil, 2) they aren't interested in you and are waiting for the next prospect 3) they are interested in you and are letting their fear of losing their independence out on you in mean ways (they won't do this if they are marriage hunting). To figure out which they are you need to know them. Talk to all women - old, young, ugly, hot, fat, and then LISTEN. It's hard to listen but train yourself. No, you didn't hear me I said listen. That's right listen and repeat back to them wait they say and ask them questions. Eventually you'll learn their 'language' and notice commonalities between them all and especially the cohort your most interested in and which to STAY AWAY FROM -some women you can't have and shouldn't want to have - know which are which from spending time with them all. If you can sincerely listen and communicate with the ugliest, nasty woman out there, and make her feel a little better about herself because you sincerely cared about her thoughts/feelings you'll be prepared for when it counts. If she is a reason number three and simply afraid of opening up to you here are some tips. Improve yourself and make your stock rise - strive to be more confident, exercise, stay well groomed, know how to dance (if you don't the guy who does will steal her from you), don't be the complete nice guy show a pinch of ass hole, compliment her regularily on the things she was born with (body parts) and you MUST compliment on the things she sees as her identity like quick wit, compassion, aggression in her job - this is often hard but if your lucky you'll find the thing her father adores about her most. Find the core thing(s) she prides herself in that make up her identity (if you can do this it shows you've been listening, you care, and might be worth opening up to), mixed with meaningful gifts at random times, listening to her, soothing her insecurities, making yourself a man with status (charlie daniels of the torque wrench or thought of highly by your neighbors or top dog on a sports team can all work - anything that proves your not a loser), and showing that you can be a good father to her children will make her melt for you. If she still bails then you either failed or she's too much work.

Random tips: READ. Read their garbage when your in waiting rooms - Vogue and whatever else is out there. Read magazines like men's health. Read books on sex, dating, psychology, cooking, exercise, etc. to increase your knowledge and compliment what you learn from talking with them. This should be enough to arm you with spotting their lies and BS. Your best friends girlfriends/wives are valuable resources to talk with and learn from. Don't put up with stupid stuff - relationship dynamics are set in like the first month or six. If you let her manipulate you from the get go your screwed. Date and test out what you learned. Don't commit the same stupid mistake twice. Once your a victim/screwed up, twice your a hopeless fool.

Wow! You've been doing your "homework", goodrain. Very impressive. Were you a psych major at one point in time?

How about if I simplify all the verbiage and tell a_student the following:

-treat women as human beings first, not sex objects
-treat women with the same respect you would accord to other female relatives, unless they give you a good reason not too
-most good looking girls who aren't vain will like being complimented on their charm/personality/intelligence/talents because otherwise if you gush too much about her looks, she will think you are solely interested in her for superficial reasons
and yes, last but not least, the keyword is: LISTEN

Good luck!

 

[Redneck]

Smilemaker100,

Thanks for the compliment - it put a smile to my face. But I should also add a thanks to my knowledge base of numerous sisters, childhood female nerd friends, talkative drunken sorority girls, my noteworthy exgirlfriends 'The Heartless One' and 'The Red Demon', stacks of man magazines, and the best IMO - country music. That reminds me, I also believe country music has EVERY thing a person needs to know about life, especially women, and if you get metaphorical it can even extend into physics, and chemistry. I would have liked to major in psych but I chose a biological science major. Hopefully someone benefits from my ramblings and your condensed version.

 

[Smilemaker100]

Smilemaker100,

Thanks for the compliment - it put a smile to my face. But I should also add a thanks to my knowledge base of numerous sisters, childhood female nerd friends, talkative drunken sorority girls, my noteworthy exgirlfriends 'The Heartless One' and 'The Red Demon', stacks of man magazines, and the best IMO - country music. That reminds me, I also believe country music has EVERY thing a person needs to know about life, especially women, and if you get metaphorical it can even extend into physics, and chemistry. I would have liked to major in psych but I chose a biological science major. Hopefully someone benefits from my ramblings and your condensed version.

Wooooo, you sound like a "burnt" man. "The Heartless One" and "The Red Demon"? Isn't it always the ones that "burn" us that teach us the most? Hopefully, you aren't as resentful toward women as a_student because of those unhappy endings.

 

[Redneck]

Smilemaker100,

LOL, no those aren't signs of deep woman hatred. They are only my way of dehumanizing them to facilitate with easier coping from the break ups. It's also an entertaining way for me to spice up the story when certain people ask about past relationships. Would you rather hear a story start with someone all sorrowful like a burial procession passed by and doe eyed describing Ms. She's All Perfect or an active happy tale with energy flowing out from an enchanting tale about the famed 'Heartless One' or perhaps, you might like to hear the wild story of 'The Red Demon.' Just an artistic touch.

I do what I can to embrace the old art of story telling. Who doesn't like a good story?

 

[Smilemaker100]

Smilemaker100,

LOL, no those aren't signs of deep woman hatred. They are only my way of dehumanizing them to facilitate with easier coping from the break ups. It's also an entertaining way for me to spice up the story when certain people ask about past relationships. Would you rather hear a story start with someone all sorrowful like a burial procession passed by and doe eyed describing Ms. She's All Perfect or an active happy tale with energy flowing out from an enchanting tale about the famed 'Heartless One' or perhaps, you might like to hear the wild story of 'The Red Demon.' Just an artistic touch.

I do what I can to embrace the old art of story telling. Who doesn't like a good story?

Maybe you can write a few country songs/lyrics based on those experiences. Those would definitely make hit titles: "The Heartless One" and "The Red Demon". I'm interested already!

 

[bananaface]

Random tips: READ. Read their garbage when your in waiting rooms - Vogue and whatever else is out there.

Oh, please not Vogue. The only thing worse is those teen magazines with tearout pictures of the Backstreet Boys.

 

[Smilemaker100]

Oh, please not Vogue. The only thing worse is those teen magazines with tearout pictures of the Backstreet Boys.

I concur. It's trash journalism! I don't even make it past the cover page at the newsstand anymore.

 

[Redneck]

Smilemaker100 & bananaface,

What do you both read that a normal guy wouldn't dare touch?

 

[Redneck]

I could compose some country songs, but it would only be fit for my close friends at deer camp with some home brew.

 

[bananaface]

Smilemaker100 & bananaface,

What do you both read that a normal guy wouldn't dare touch?

Umm... the fine print on feminine hygeine products? Birth control package inserts?

 

[Redneck]

I would have thought for certain that you were an avid reader of Good House Keeping, Cosmo Girl, Martha Stewart Living, and naturally a long time secret collector of Modern Bride.


...well, I guess I don't even have a rudimentary understanding of women. Suppose I should get back to sharpening up my nunchuck skills.

 

[Smilemaker100]

Smilemaker100 & bananaface,

What do you both read that a normal guy wouldn't dare touch?

It depends at which age. I think these DEFINITELY were not read by boys/men. LOL!

As a pre-teen: I shamefully admit to reading about the adventures of the Wakefield twins in the "Sweet Valley High" series , all of the "Anne of Green Gables" books & "Emily of New Moon" books (by Lucy Maud Montgomery),the "Babysitter's Club" series as well as being an avid reader of Nancy Drew stories.

As a teen: I occasionally read some Danielle Steele novels , which in retrospect were pretty much repetitive and which I don't care to read ever again.

Now as an adult: I occasionally peruse the fashion pages/fashion trends articles in the newspaper, and articles on cosmetic products. I also enjoy Amy Tan's books such as "The Joy Luck Club", "The Hundred Secret Senses". I don't touch any of those Harlequin romance novels!

Other than that, I think most of my reading material would be read by men.

 

[toofache32]

Oh, please not Vogue. The only thing worse is those teen magazines with tearout pictures of the Backstreet Boys.

As long as I don't have to take "The Quiz"....

 

[bananaface]

I would have thought for certain that you were an avid reader of Good House Keeping, Cosmo Girl, Martha Stewart Living, and naturally a long time secret collector of Modern Bride.

You seem to have much more than casual knowledge about these magazines.

My best friend from high school used to collect those bride magazines. Then she would say things like, "I can't wait to get married. But, then I will have to have sex. Ugggghh." Her mom brainwashed her into thinking it was this awful, icky experience. That's like saying good chocolate tastes like alum. Go taste some alum. I dare you.

I think I read alot of the same books as Smilemaker when I was younger, plus the Christopher Pike books. I never read romance novels, though. It always seemed so damn cheezy.

 

[Redneck]

a student,
Sorry about deviating from your thread.


toofache32,
Ah, yes, the quizzes. They're like a vehicle nabbed by the police on the freeway - you can't help but at least look. Some people slow down to really look at 'em, others just glance, but either way you looked. Darn quizzes.


bananaface,
I have more than casual knowledge of them thanks to a quick google search. But like your friend from high school I've known women who were closet bridal magazine keepers. Which brings up a random fact: Women will snoop to different levels after staying over at a guys place for the first time for different red flags. All a guy needs to look out for are those dang things and if she has one of those annoyingly small kick dogs. Oh, and I have no desire to taste alum. I've already filled up on chocolate.


smilemaker100,
Dear god you just brought back a flood of horrid memories. Anne of green gables and bosom friend talk - and constant "Oh, Anne!" exclamations (don't forget her name is spelled with an e). My sisters tortured me as a kid with those movies like a 5 year old with the lion king watching it over and over. Then they came out with that follow up movie a few years back and started it all over again. I thought I repressed this all.

...I feel like less of a man right now with these flashbacks. I need to go shoot a can or something. Better yet I'm going to go medicate myself with some Rodney Carrington songs.

 

[bananaface]

Better yet I'm going to go medicate myself with some Rodney Carrington songs.

Oh my! Do they have WWE box sets yet?

I don't think the OP was super serious in his misogyny anyway.

 

[benelswick]

....uh.....i have 2 brothers no sisters....is that why i don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.


see...isn't that just the way it goes man...the dude started talkin about bein mad at girls...and before you know it.....we can't understand what y'all are sayin. i'm gonna stick to sayin jack **** man.

 

[Smilemaker100]

a student,

smilemaker100,
Dear god you just brought back a flood of horrid memories. Anne of green gables and bosom friend talk - and constant "Oh, Anne!" exclamations (don't forget her name is spelled with an e). My sisters tortured me as a kid with those movies like a 5 year old with the lion king watching it over and over. Then they came out with that follow up movie a few years back and started it all over again. I thought I repressed this all.

...I feel like less of a man right now with these flashbacks. I need to go shoot a can or something. Better yet I'm going to go medicate myself with some Rodney Carrington songs.

Yes, that's why Anne of Green Gables will never cater to little boys! And I annoyed my brothers too when I used to watch the reruns EVERY YEAR. " Oh no, not her again! " they used to say.

I LOVED Meagan Follows as Anne in the Kevin Sullivan "Anne" TV series. Anne is exactly what I was like as a girl (minus the "carrot" hair)...a bookworm, full of spunk, had some "bosom" buddies and with a temper too! LOL! I had my own "Gilbert Blythes" as a girl. Only, I never resorted to breaking slates over their heads! LOL! I am still looking for my Gilbert Blythe...oooo Jonathan Crombie was such a handsome actor, especially in that little scene in the gazebo where both Anne and Gilbert find shelter from a rainstorm.

It's been years since I've seen those reruns. Maybe these holidays, I'll cuddle up near the fireplace to watch them and remember my good ol' childhood memories dreaming of my "Gilbert Blythe".

 

[bananaface]

I have nothing to do with this. Nothing.

 

[Redneck]

benelswick,
Let me help you out and bring you into the fold. You like women, beer, and things that explode or make loud noises right? Now if your talking with the guys and see a gorgeous women that just walked by that they missed you'll say to your friends, "Check out the woman in purple." Now if your friend's girlfriend were to hypothetically do the same thing she'd say something like, "wow, Do you see the mauve silk chiffon top she's wearing - it's adorable." That's because women speak a different language. I'm just saying try to learn to speak it and do so by first listening and keep to speaking jack **** with the guys.


smilemaker100,
Yes, the classic gazebo scene. I can't recall the one you speak of which I feel is a good thing, but it does bring to mind the one in sound of music - where a woman needs a man older and wiser telling her what to do . Gazebos are a woman's structure, like you have just now ooooed over one, I have seen other women get married in them, and men build them for their women. A worthless building. I for one would rather build a barn - it can do the exact same thing and more as a gazebo. Yup, your a true female. I'm willing to bet if some guy you'd been seeing (married to?) wanted to start a fire this x-mas day, opened a decent riesling (or better yet a wine actually from Prince edward island ), grabbed some homemade quilts, snuggled up, flipped on 'ol Anne, then during intermission revealed the home made country apple pie he made, and finished the whole darn thing and revealed tickets to PEI as the real xmas gift you'd melt thinking you landed the perfect man or pretty darn close to it.


bananaface,
My spider senses tell me your mocking me with the WWE box set question. I need to inform you that I don't spend my time watching that smut. Seriously, I'll have you know that I spend my free time as an avid supporter of the great american sport of NASCAR, drinking keystone light, sporting my favorite BBQ stained wife beater t-shirt, scratching myself incessantly, and showering only on days that start with T. Oh, and here is a picture exemplifying my devotion to NASCAR accompanied by the little lady.

 

[Smilemaker100]

smilemaker100,
Yes, the classic gazebo scene. I can't recall the one you speak of which I feel is a good thing, but it does bring to mind the one in sound of music - where a woman needs a man older and wiser telling her what to do . Gazebos are a woman's structure, like you have just now ooooed over one, I have seen other women get married in them, and men build them for their women. A worthless building. I for one would rather build a barn - it can do the exact same thing and more as a gazebo. Yup, your a true female. I'm willing to bet if some guy you'd been seeing (married to?) wanted to start a fire this x-mas day, opened a decent riesling (or better yet a wine actually from Prince edward island ), grabbed some homemade quilts, snuggled up, flipped on 'ol Anne, then during intermission revealed the home made country apple pie he made, and finished the whole darn thing and revealed tickets to PEI as the real xmas gift you'd melt thinking you landed the perfect man or pretty darn close to it.

I already went to PEI on an unforgettable family trip in the summer of 1987. It's a beautiful place in the summer time. I highly recommend it for family trips. My parents rented a little place right by the ocean. We went swimming in the ocean every morning, went strawberry picking during the day, spent time on the beach, visited all the L.M. Montgomery sites (where she grew up etc.) and the historic sites in Charlettown . We ate clams and crab which my dad caught when the tide went out (I was really upset when I saw my dad putting that crab in the kettle , I refused to eat it ).

I haven't been back to PEI since they built the Confederation bridge in the early 1990s and finished it in 1997 (cost about 1$ billion! ) . This bridge links PEI with the Maritime provinces. Kevin Sullivan's "Anne" series were an international success and attracted many tourists to PEI. For some reason, many Japanese have a fascination with PEI.

Yes, gazebos are very romantic. I don't need a man to cuddle with in front of the fireplace, more than anything else, I want to get myself another puppy to pet on my lap. No one can replace man's best friend...but I wouldn't mind that little scenario you made up either. Once I own a dog again, I won't be lonely any more. Look at these "babies"

a_student, maybe all you need is a doggie to help control your anger toward women. Petting your dog or cat has been scientifically shown to lower your blood pressure.

All I want is one these babies:http://www.ljplus.ru/img2/pycaky/Christmas-Pomeranians.jpg

http://www.junglexotics.com/IMAGES/dogs/Dino&Bubbles_1.jpg

http://www.chestara.com/Chiefly.gif

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images12/pomeranianBexcellent3girls.JPG

http://community.webshots.com/photo/10814232/10978160PfRpsFXBLw

http://www.agsminiaturehorses.20m.com/images/pdrm0180_website.jpg

 

[Redneck]

smilemaker100,

Little muts? I'll quote myself from earlier, "All a guy needs to look out for [with regards to women] are those dang things [bridal magazines] and if she has one of those annoyingly small kick dogs." My experience with women who cherish four legged companions more than a man are either emotionally damaged from a few bad relationships, or are incredibly beautiful and have only been crapped on by the horniest men who have enough balls to approach them, is an older woman, or not the most sought after. All of which stem from a lack of man attention and the right kind of man attention. Some women pursue cats others little muts - notice the plural, one is never good enough. And yes, a 'doggie' is known to reduce stress and BP, but it will never substitute for the flesh, smell, taste, light banter, beauty, and joy of a woman - don't try telling him to settle with a four legged-bad advice. I've seen it in women and yes, even redneck men with their beloved beer drinking bird dog. The love of an animal is false love. They're merely slaves conditioned to show 'affection.' They don't do so willingly - a condition of real love. They contribute to an allusion, a sense of false adoration, it's simliar to the self love known as pride. The greeks warned us of hubris. BEWARE OF THE DOG!! Our society tries way too much to humanize the four leggeds. They should remain as food and tools. Nothing more. Rather than hearing talk of walking fido or changing Fufu's litter box we should hear more "...honey, could you please pass the golden lab. There's still room next to my mashed potatoes and green beans." I applaud the cultures that eat 'em.

And yes I have cat and enjoy dogs - but I see them only as an additional joy to the fun that is life - not as a companion.

 

[Smilemaker100]

smilemaker100,

Little muts? I'll quote myself from earlier, "All a guy needs to look out for [with regards to women] are those dang things [bridal magazines] and if she has one of those annoyingly small kick dogs." My experience with women who cherish four legged companions more than a man are either emotionally damaged from a few bad relationships, or are incredibly beautiful and have only been crapped on by the horniest men who have enough balls to approach them, is an older woman, or not the most sought after. All of which stem from a lack of man attention and the right kind of man attention. Some women pursue cats others little muts - notice the plural, one is never good enough. And yes, a 'doggie' is known to reduce stress and BP, but it will never substitute for the flesh, smell, taste, light banter, beauty, and joy of a woman - don't try telling him to settle with a four legged-bad advice. I've seen it in women and yes, even redneck men with their beloved beer drinking bird dog. The love of an animal is false love. They're merely slaves conditioned to show 'affection.' They don't do so willingly - a condition of real love. They contribute to an allusion, a sense of false adoration, it's simliar to the self love known as pride. The greeks warned us of hubris. BEWARE OF THE DOG!! Our society tries way too much to humanize the four leggeds. They should remain as food and tools. Nothing more. Rather than hearing talk of walking fido or changing Fufu's litter box we should hear more "...honey, could you please pass the golden lab. There's still room next to my mashed potatoes and green beans." I applaud the cultures that eat 'em.

And yes I have cat and enjoy dogs - but I see them only as an additional joy to the fun that is life - not as a companion.

Geez, don't take me seriously! Have a sense of humor! Sometimes, I am just being sarcastic.

 

[Redneck]

well you got me with that one. I've just known a few too many people who do actually prefer four leggeds in the real world and it struck a personal cord. Sad really.

Happy Turkey Day Y'all.

 

[toofache32]

Dogs are better than women anyway....they don't mind when you pet other dogs.

 

[a_student]

Dogs are better than women anyway....they don't mind when you pet other dogs.

10. A dog's parents will never visit you.

9. A dog loves you when you leave your clothes on the floor.

8. A dog limits its time in the bathroom to a quick drink.

7. A dog never expects you to telephone.

6. A dog will not get mad at you if you forget its birthday.

5. A dog does not care about the previous dogs in your life.

4. A dog does not get mad at you if you pet another dog

3. A dog never expects flowers on Valentine's Day.

2. The later you are, the happier a dog is to see you.

1. A dog does not shop.

lol, thanks for the advice everyone. i think i'll stick w/ dogs

 

[Smilemaker100]

smilemaker100,

Little muts? I'll quote myself from earlier, "All a guy needs to look out for [with regards to women] are those dang things [bridal magazines] and if she has one of those annoyingly small kick dogs." My experience with women who cherish four legged companions more than a man are either emotionally damaged from a few bad relationships, or are incredibly beautiful and have only been crapped on by the horniest men who have enough balls to approach them, is an older woman, or not the most sought after. All of which stem from a lack of man attention and the right kind of man attention. Some women pursue cats others little muts - notice the plural, one is never good enough. And yes, a 'doggie' is known to reduce stress and BP, but it will never substitute for the flesh, smell, taste, light banter, beauty, and joy of a woman - don't try telling him to settle with a four legged-bad advice. I've seen it in women and yes, even redneck men with their beloved beer drinking bird dog. The love of an animal is false love. They're merely slaves conditioned to show 'affection.' They don't do so willingly - a condition of real love. They contribute to an allusion, a sense of false adoration, it's simliar to the self love known as pride. The greeks warned us of hubris. BEWARE OF THE DOG!! Our society tries way too much to humanize the four leggeds. They should remain as food and tools. Nothing more. Rather than hearing talk of walking fido or changing Fufu's litter box we should hear more "...honey, could you please pass the golden lab. There's still room next to my mashed potatoes and green beans." I applaud the cultures that eat 'em.

And yes I have cat and enjoy dogs - but I see them only as an additional joy to the fun that is life - not as a companion.

Those are NOT mutts! They are Pomeranian puppies and are from the Spitz family of canines (same family as Samoyeds, Alaskan Malamute,Chow Chows,Eskimo dogs and more) .They happen to belong to the dog breeds which most closely ressemble wolves.

Pomeranians were bred down to a smaller size from working dogs which used to pull heavy sleighs and used to herd livestock in the small town of Pomerania,now eastern Germany (hence the name Pomeranian). They were first recognized as a dog breed by the American Kennel Association in the late 19th century. Queen Victoria loved this dog breed and popularized them throughout Europe and the world. Victoria loved her Poms so much that as she lay dying she asked for her favorite Pom Turi to be brought to her bedside.

Poms are NOT little mutts...they were treasured pets not only of Queen Victoria but of Michelangelo, Newton,Mozart and Chopin.

Michelangelo had a Pomeranian who patiently watched him paint the Sistine Chapel ceiling. It sat on a satin pillow and watched the artist create his masterpiece. The physicist Isaac Newton had a Pom named Diamond who had the bad habit of chewing up his master's manuscripts. And in the musical world Mozart had a female Pom named Pimperl (to whom he dedicated an aria) and Chopin was so amused by his girlfriend's Pom that he composed the "Valse des Petits Chiens" for the pet.

How can you say that a dog's love is "false love" when you feed them, walk them, groom them, pet them, rub their bellies, rub them behind the ears and play with them,panic when they get sick and stay by their side night and day when they are ill and they love you for that? Wouldn't you love someone who was constantly paying attention to you like that?

Like someone once said, "The more I get to know people in this world, the more I appreciate my dog when I come home." I love Poms

 

[Smilemaker100]

10. A dog's parents will never visit you.

9. A dog loves you when you leave your clothes on the floor.

8. A dog limits its time in the bathroom to a quick drink.

7. A dog never expects you to telephone.

6. A dog will not get mad at you if you forget its birthday.

5. A dog does not care about the previous dogs in your life.

4. A dog does not get mad at you if you pet another dog

3. A dog never expects flowers on Valentine's Day.

2. The later you are, the happier a dog is to see you.

1. A dog does not shop.

lol, thanks for the advice everyone. i think i'll stick w/ dogs

Me too (sarcastic here, goodrain) "The more I get to know the world, the more I love my dog." Going to get me one of those Pom babies soon

 

[bananaface]

I have an American Eskimo. If you boys would rather let him kiss you than a girl, so be it. Just remember, he licks his balls too.

 

[Smilemaker100]

I have an American Eskimo. If you boys would rather let him kiss you than a girl, so be it. Just remember, he licks his balls too.

 

[bananaface]

Oops. I forgot to mention that he drinks out of the toilet.

 

[DireWolf]

I have an American Eskimo. If you boys would rather let him kiss you than a girl, so be it. Just remember, he licks his balls too.

woof.

 

[bananaface]

woof.

Awww. You two make a cute couple.

 

[toofache32]

OK, while we're showing...here's my chocolate male and yellow female. She eats her own poo.

 

[bananaface]

They are so sweet looking! Seeing puppies makes me want puppies. Yet, seeing babies makes me not want babies.

 

[pharmeronadell]

Cutest ball-licking poop eaters I ever did see.

 

[toofache32]

Cutest ball-licking poop eaters I ever did see.

No more balls since that woeful visit to the Vet...he gets suspicious every time we take him back and starts looking around the place as if he left something there.

 

[bananaface]

My dog hasn't figured out that anything is missing.

 

[Redneck]

How can you say that a dog's love is "false love" when you feed them, walk them, groom them, pet them, rub their bellies, rub them behind the ears and play with them,panic when they get sick and stay by their side night and day when they are ill and they love you for that? Wouldn't you love someone who was constantly paying attention to you like that?

I can easily say that a dog's love is false love. A condition of love is free will, to willingly love someone or something. A dog lacks free will. They are conditioned to do what they do and run off of instinct. Real love is based on choice- on devotion. If you stop being a slave to your dog by no longer feeding them, walking them, grooming them, petting them and the other things you listed, would a dog still stay with a person? No. That is not love. They are basic beasts going off their instincts and selfish needs. A human will stay with some one who is terminally ill and take care of them and possibly receive no affection in return but will do so out of their own free will and devotion. That is love. A dog simply completes the business transaction of getting food, water, shelter, and massages, by giving back lower BP, a cute furry animal to stare at, and something to give the impression of love.

No, I wouldn't automatically love someone who constanty pays as much attention to me as you described a four legged doing. Love is not a mathematical equation where x spends y amount of time with me so I give love. Love is undefinable, Like trying to hog tie a lake - you can't, but you can swim in it and feel it. I love people because it is right - not out of guilt, or obligation, or completion of a business transaction.

Once again I say with confidence four leggeds give false love.

 

[Smilemaker100]

I can easily say that a dog's love is false love. A condition of love is free will, to willingly love someone or something. A dog lacks free will. They are conditioned to do what they do and run off of instinct. Real love is based on choice- on devotion. If you stop being a slave to your dog by no longer feeding them, walking them, grooming them, petting them and the other things you listed, would a dog still stay with a person? No. That is not love. They are basic beasts going off their instincts and selfish needs. A human will stay with some one who is terminally ill and take care of them and possibly receive no affection in return but will do so out of their own free will and devotion. That is love. A dog simply completes the business transaction of getting food, water, shelter, and massages, by giving back lower BP, a cute furry animal to stare at, and something to give the impression of love.

No, I wouldn't automatically love someone who constanty pays as much attention to me as you described a four legged doing. Love is not a mathematical equation where x spends y amount of time with me so I give love. Love is undefinable, Like trying to hog tie a lake - you can't, but you can swim in it and feel it. I love people because it is right - not out of guilt, or obligation, or completion of a business transaction.

Once again I say with confidence four leggeds give false love.

Ok, I give up. You won the debate. Although, it would be fun to debate further but that's not what this thread is about. Thanks for putting things err "mathematically". But I still think my deceased dog was an angel and I miss him terribly.

 

[bananaface]

Children would also love you falsely if you buy into that line of thinking.

*waits for goodrain to be chased by a mob of angry parents*