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How did everyone approach Anki when they first started? Did you suspend every card in the deck and unsuspend based on the system and when it was covered in class? Give me insight into how you approached Anki. I am an incoming M1 and all tips, tricks, and suggestions will be helpful.
 

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How did everyone approach Anki when they first started? Did you suspend every card in the deck and unsuspend based on the system and when it was covered in class? Give me insight into how you approached Anki. I am an incoming M1 and all tips, tricks, and suggestions will be helpful.
What you said is pretty much what I do, unsuspend as I cover class material and if something seems relevant but was not explicitly covered in class I still unsuspend it
 
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When I'm using Zanki, I watch the associated lectures (Path/B&B/Sketchy), suspend the cards and complete them. Then I watch the in-class lecture for any important details that are missing. Typically the lectures from outside resources are better organized and less dense than my school's lecture so it's worth my time to watch them! If your program is using NBMEs or has content similar to B&B/path it might be worth yours as well
 
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I think the easiest way to do it is to suspend the entire Zanki deck, then unsuspend cards as you watch the corresponding B&B/Pathoma/Sketchy vid. Would recommend reading BRS too because thats where most of the Zanki physiology cards come from
 
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Agree with everything stated above, and adding that I wish I had started Zanki/BB as a first year. Depending on your schools curriculum, Pathoma and Sketchy might not be relevant for you until M2. Costanzo (sp?) might be better for M1 physiology, and I believe Zanki phys is based off that.

my other “wish I had done this” is to continue doing your M1 cards until Step 1. I stopped my first year cards at the end of first year, and forgot almost all of development, and a chunk of anatomy.
 

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Agree with everything stated above, and adding that I wish I had started Zanki/BB as a first year. Depending on your schools curriculum, Pathoma and Sketchy might not be relevant for you until M2. Costanzo (sp?) might be better for M1 physiology, and I believe Zanki phys is based off that.

my other “wish I had done this” is to continue doing your M1 cards until Step 1. I stopped my first year cards at the end of first year, and forgot almost all of development, and a chunk of anatomy.

literally every person I know, including me, wishes they did this. Its like a tradition as a med student: to start Zanki/outside stuff first year, stop doing it over the summer or whatever, then half way through second year be like 'wow if I would've just kept up with this id know everything still'
 
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I think one important factor is the type of curriculum your school uses.

My school is a traditional curriculum, and I tried doing Lightyear and unsuspending stuff. It just doesn't work for our classes. I can totally see how it would be nice in a block based curriculum, though.

If you are a traditional school, I'd suggest making your own cards and doing that until you study for step more in depth. Windows+Shift+S is your best friend. Or Command+Alt+4 for the Mac users.
 

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I think one important factor is the type of curriculum your school uses.

My school is a traditional curriculum, and I tried doing Lightyear and unsuspending stuff. It just doesn't work for our classes. I can totally see how it would be nice in a block based curriculum, though.

If you are a traditional school, I'd suggest making your own cards and doing that until you study for step more in depth. Windows+Shift+S is your best friend. Or Command+Alt+4 for the Mac users.

Yep, if you are at a traditional school, all bets are off. If you have an NBME curriculum, a light-year based deck is the way to go. If you want to be a super gunner and crush your NBME exams, use the Hoopla deck, though it is a lot more work.
 

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Agree with everything stated above, and adding that I wish I had started Zanki/BB as a first year. Depending on your schools curriculum, Pathoma and Sketchy might not be relevant for you until M2. Costanzo (sp?) might be better for M1 physiology, and I believe Zanki phys is based off that.

my other “wish I had done this” is to continue doing your M1 cards until Step 1. I stopped my first year cards at the end of first year, and forgot almost all of development, and a chunk of anatomy.
Just curious but why did you stop? Did the number of reviews become unsustainable?

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Just curious but why did you stop? Did the number of reviews become unsustainable?

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I read too many posts on SDN of people saying studying during summer of M1 was unnecessary.

Im not joking, that’s really the reason.
 
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I read too many posts on SDN of people saying studying during summer of M1 was unnecessary.

Im not joking, that’s really the reason.

"Folks, here we have a living example of someone that was gunned down by SDN members. Meanwhile, these same individuals were crushing sketchy and starting qbanks. Back to you, Chet."
 
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At this rate, I will be spamming my method multiple times a year, lol. You can go here for my approach: Starting Anki Day 1/How Do YOU use Anki?

My advice:

1. This goes without saying, but do your reviews every. single. day. Just freakin do them, lol

2. This one is critical but hardly gets said. Prioritize understanding your cards. Prioritize understanding over speed.

3. Don't be afraid to change your workflow if it's not working for you. You don't have to do it a certain way just because everyone else does it that way.

4. Don't be stuck on how your school does things. Anki gives you total freedom in your preclinical education. You don't have to follow your curriculum to the T if it doesn't work for you or your plans.
 
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Is it worth getting Sketchy Path along with Pathoma?
Sketchy path is hit or miss. A guy in my class swears by it but I'm not a fan tbh. I think it's worth a trial to see if you like it but pathoma/bnb is more than enough.

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What you said is pretty much what I do, unsuspend as I cover class material and if something seems relevant but was not explicitly covered in class I still unsuspend it
I'm also an incoming MS1 and was planning on going this route of only unsuspending cards relevant to the block. My question is, when you go through the deck, do you go through it card by card to see if it's stuff you need to know or do you just unsuspend the whole sub-deck?

Also, how do you know when to unsuspend it? If you unsuspend the Zanki GI sub-deck the first day of the GI block, you won't have really any base of the material and will be going though it somewhat blindly. Do you wait until you're preparing for a shelf/NBME to start it or when?
 

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I'm also an incoming MS1 and was planning on going this route of only unsuspending cards relevant to the block. My question is, when you go through the deck, do you go through it card by card to see if it's stuff you need to know or do you just unsuspend the whole sub-deck?

Also, how do you know when to unsuspend it? If you unsuspend the Zanki GI sub-deck the first day of the GI block, you won't have really any base of the material and will be going though it somewhat blindly. Do you wait until you're preparing for a shelf/NBME to start it or when?
It really depends. I use the AnKing deck, so I tend to use the tags to find cards and go through those one at a time, but I also search key words to find relevant material, and I usually don’t unsuspended cards until after I have covered it in class, so I’ve at least had one pass of the material before I start doing cards on it
 
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I'm also an incoming MS1 and was planning on going this route of only unsuspending cards relevant to the block. My question is, when you go through the deck, do you go through it card by card to see if it's stuff you need to know or do you just unsuspend the whole sub-deck?

Also, how do you know when to unsuspend it? If you unsuspend the Zanki GI sub-deck the first day of the GI block, you won't have really any base of the material and will be going though it somewhat blindly. Do you wait until you're preparing for a shelf/NBME to start it or when?
A lot of this you will have to figure out based on what your school is like. Now that step is P/F there's less pressure to be getting FA decks early on. You will have to see what works for you come M1 year
 
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A lot of this you will have to figure out based on what your school is like. Now that step is P/F there's less pressure to be getting FA decks early on. You will have to see what works for you come M1 year
Also worried I get too lax then we find out that when they said "This policy will take effect no earlier than January 1, 2022" they don't implement it until the next cycle then we're all screwed.
 
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Also worried I get too lax then we find out that when they said "This policy will take effect no earlier than January 1, 2022" they don't implement it until the next cycle then we're all screwed.

That's why you should come in hot and gun like it's scored. If it ends up being scored, you're golden. If it's not scored, you're still maximizing your chances of smashing step 2 (which will 100% replace step 1 as the culling metric), because you built an extremely strong foundation.
 
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A lot of this you will have to figure out based on what your school is like. Now that step is P/F there's less pressure to be getting FA decks early on. You will have to see what works for you come M1 year
It really depends. I use the AnKing deck, so I tend to use the tags to find cards and go through those one at a time, but I also search key words to find relevant material, and I usually don’t unsuspended cards until after I have covered it in class, so I’ve at least had one pass of the material before I start doing cards on it
Do you think it's a waste of time to make your own decks? Is Zanki/Anking generally similar enough to class material that you can study for class with the pre-made decks and learn anything not in them through PPT's/lectures and not waste time on making decks.
 

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Do you think it's a waste of time to make your own decks? Is Zanki/Anking generally similar enough to class material that you can study for class with the pre-made decks and learn anything not in them through PPT's/lectures and not waste time on making decks.
Again, it really depends on your school. For my lectures, it was easier for me to just make my own cards rather than go through and unsuspend stuff. I also find that I remember things better when there are different formats for the slides. FA all looks the same, but I like the variety from all the different lecturers.

Don't do Zanki/Anking just because people say you should. Find what works for you. You're going to get a lot of advice and you should bear in mind that it's simply what worked for the person giving it. We all have different styles and priorities. It may be unpopular, but I don't think you need to worry about step M1 year. Just try to do well and find your rhythm. I took M1 pretty lax and I was paging through FA last night on a whim and was surprised how much of it I had learned in my lectures. Don't psych yourself out now, you haven't even started yet.
 
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Do you think it's a waste of time to make your own decks? Is Zanki/Anking generally similar enough to class material that you can study for class with the pre-made decks and learn anything not in them through PPT's/lectures and not waste time on making decks.
Anki/Anking is basically the high-yield clearly explained parts of any organ system. Studying it won't hurt because it will give you a good foundation. The best thing u can do is reach out to upperclassmen who took the class and ask them which subjects didn't focus on board material. Also always finish ur anki cards a week before the exam to hammer class-specific practice questions and fill in the class-specific info, not in zanki which can be a lot depending on the class.
 
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Do you think it's a waste of time to make your own decks? Is Zanki/Anking generally similar enough to class material that you can study for class with the pre-made decks and learn anything not in them through PPT's/lectures and not waste time on making decks.

That is correct. But it depends on your goals. If you want to honor everything/AOA, you might consider making decks for everything not covered in Zanki. If you don't care about honoring, then it's totally a waste of time. That's not to say that you must make decks to honor all your classes. It just depends on what works for you. You may just need to do a solid 2-3 passes of the slides and a healthy diet of questions and you'll be good to go. It just depends on you and your exams. If your school gives only NBME exams and you're running Zanki, you'll be sitting pretty.
 
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Do you think it's a waste of time to make your own decks? Is Zanki/Anking generally similar enough to class material that you can study for class with the pre-made decks and learn anything not in them through PPT's/lectures and not waste time on making decks.
I still made my own decks, but that’s going to be specific to your school and how much useless bs your professors will make you learn. So I would make decks and unsuspend for a class, then after a class ended I would just continue doing my Zanki cards and forget about the decks I made
 
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That is correct. But it depends on your goals. If you want to honor everything/AOA, you might consider making decks for everything not covered in Zanki. If you don't care about honoring, then it's totally a waste of time. That's not to say that you must make decks to honor all your classes. It just depends on what works for you. You may just need to do a solid 2-3 passes of the slides and a healthy diet of questions and you'll be good to go. It just depends on you and your exams. If your school gives only NBME exams and you're running Zanki, you'll be sitting pretty.
Some schools don't use first 2 year grades for AOA so double check on that.
 

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Do you think it's a waste of time to make your own decks? Is Zanki/Anking generally similar enough to class material that you can study for class with the pre-made decks and learn anything not in them through PPT's/lectures and not waste time on making decks.
Some professors test on astonishingly low yield details that necessitate either making your own cards or asking a friend to hook it up with their class deck. You can comfortably make that determination when you look at their lecture slides or reflect on past quiz/exam questions.

Because curriculums vary so wildly, I would reach out to ms2s who've done zanki all throughout ms1 for advice. Buy them a beer and they'll sing like a canary. I know I would.

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My school does use NMBE's and does not use pre clinical grades for AOA. I would like to do well in the pre-clinical years mostly because it's a tiered pre clinical grading system, I'm afraid STEP 1 might not be made P/F by the time I take it, I would like to do well on step 2 in any case. I like writing my notes out by hand for retention so I feel like making my own decks would be an extension of this.
 

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My school does use NMBE's and does not use pre clinical grades for AOA. I would like to do well in the pre-clinical years mostly because it's a tiered pre clinical grading system, I'm afraid STEP 1 might not be made P/F by the time I take it, I would like to do well on step 2 in any case. I like writing my notes out by hand for retention so I feel like making my own decks would be an extension of this.

In that case, then you don't even need to do any extra studying outside of Zanki and other third party resources (BnB, Pathoma, Rx, etc). @Matthew9Thirtyfive can speak to this.
 
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In that case, then you don't even need to do any extra studying outside of Zanki and other third party resources (BnB, Pathoma, Rx, etc). @Matthew9Thirtyfive can speak to this.

All you need are the third party resources. I use BnB for almost everything, and I watch the Osmosis High Yield Path videos. Then I Zanki the **** out of it. I'll add sketchy micro in when I need it, and very occasionally I will watch a pathoma video. I've watched maybe 3 pathoma videos the entire first year so far and have done very well on all my NBMEs. I'm watching more Pathoma in this module because half of it is heme. But for all the other systems, I barely used it.
 
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Not a medical student (UG) but I've used Anki for years even before undergrad to learn various subjects. I let the algorithm do its thing for the most part but...

On a typical day (no exam approaching):
1. Finish all recent cards.
2. Go over older cards for an hour on weekdays. 2+ hours on weekends.

Exam approaching:
1. Go over cards covered in exam.
2. Go over all recent material.
3. Do older cards if all of the above has been completed (30 mins weekdays, 1+ hours weekends)

I find that during the week I get a huge build up of old cards, but I can usually whittle them down on weekends.

Sometimes I put decks on the back burner until a vacation. I use mostly Python, R, and C++ for school so I only do my Java decks on vacays. Same with Econ since that's not a requirement for my major and I read the textbooks on my own.
 

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