Any interviews with 7 in verbal?

[LaDaLa]

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Hello everyone, I'm applying this cycle with a 7 in verbal and a 29 overall MCAT. My GPA is very high and I have great list of activities. I have received one interview so far, from Rosalind Franklin, but although this should have given me hope, I am still very paranoid about this whole process. Are there any success stories out there from people also applying this cycle with a similar verbal score?

 

[almo88]

Did you "apply broadly"? It also depends on your home state. I think a "high" GPA and a 29 MCAT will definitely get you some interviews. If they happen to be good interviews, you will be accepted. There are a lot of "hurry-up-and-wait" nuances to this process. Just try not to get bogged down. Good Luck!

 

[sportstownusa]

yea, im in the same boat. 7 in verbal, 31 overall. gpa is 3.5ish. no interviews so far.

 

[artaxerxes]

its early in the cycle, and it depends on when you handed your stuff in.
In relation to the OP, I only have 2 legit invites....

 

[Phoenix.]

If you do a search on www.mdapplicants.com and look at people applying this year with a 7 in VR and between a 28 and 31 on the MCAT, you'll see that so far (it's still fairy early) non-URM students were also invited with those stats to interview at Tulane and UVM.

If you look at people who applied in 2007 with those stats, you'll see that the following non-URM applicants were accepted to the following schools (and had many more interviews than at the schools they were accepted to):

MUSC & Univ of South Carolina (SC applicant)
Dartmouth & Indiana (and this is an international applicant)
University of Washington (AK applicant)
SUNY Downstate (NY applicant)
Iowa (NY applicant)
Georgetown, UCI, Univ of Florida, NYMC (CA applicant)
Rush (CA applicant)
Loma Linda (CA applicant)
Penn State, VCU, USUHS (OR applicant)
Miami & Univ of Florida (FL applicant)

And that's just limiting it to those specific stats (2007 applicant, 28-31 MCAT, 7 in VR). Of course, not everyone posts on mdapps, so there are more people out there with a 7 in VR that get in than that. Also, take everything posted on there with a grain of salt since it's self reported. Regardless, a 7 in VR is not a nail in the coffin. You're more than your numbers - just make sure you continue to emphasize your strengths. Keep doing what you're doing and be confident. Don't let SDN get you down. Congrats on your interview at RFU!

 

[almo88]

its early in the cycle, and it depends on when you handed your stuff in.
In relation to the OP, I only have 2 legit invites....

Your MCAT is amazing. Congrats.

 

[Inuranic]

If you do a search on www.mdapplicants.com and look at people applying this year with a 7 in VR and between a 28 and 31 on the MCAT, you'll see that so far (it's still fairy early) non-URM students were also invited with those stats to interview at Tulane and UVM.

If you look at people who applied in 2007 with those stats, you'll see that the following non-URM applicants were accepted to the following schools (and had many more interviews than at the schools they were accepted to):

MUSC & Univ of South Carolina (SC applicant)
Dartmouth & Indiana (and this is an international applicant)
University of Washington (AK applicant)
SUNY Downstate (NY applicant)
Iowa (NY applicant)
Georgetown, UCI, Univ of Florida, NYMC (CA applicant)
Rush (CA applicant)
Loma Linda (CA applicant)
Penn State, VCU, USUHS (OR applicant)
Miami & Univ of Florida (FL applicant)

And that's just limiting it to those specific stats (2007 applicant, 28-31 MCAT, 7 in VR). Of course, not everyone posts on mdapps, so there are more people out there with a 7 in VR that get in than that. Also, take everything posted on there with a grain of salt since it's self reported. Regardless, a 7 in VR is not a nail in the coffin. You're more than your numbers - just make sure you continue to emphasize your strengths. Keep doing what you're doing and be confident. Don't let SDN get you down. Congrats on your interview at RFU!

That's a lot of effort for one post. Kudos my friend, kudos.

 

[LaDaLa]

Thanks for the feedback! I did apply broadly, CA schools were the best schools I applied to (I'm a CA resident) And you guys are right, it is still early in the cycle. When I posted the first thread I had just looked at Mdapps and when I didn't get the feedback I wanted I sort of freaked out...thanks again!

 

[flaahless]

Yo. I have four interviews and I have a 7 in VR. My MCAT is 7VR, 12PS, 10BS R.

I knew it would be a problem so I tried to write an excellent PS and perfect my secondaries so that I could repel the notion that I cannot read and discern. So far it has worked for Vanderbilt, USC-Keck, Tulane and Louisville.

Unfortunately, some schools really don't like it. I spoke with the dean of admissions at Wake Forest and he said, "a verbal score that low is unacceptable for a native english speaker." And then he asked if I read often and if I knew how to. It was pretty harsh.

 

[Phoenix.]

That's a lot of effort for one post. Kudos my friend, kudos.

Thanks! I may not have a 7 in VR, but I have an 8 in PS, and I've certainly spent a fair share of my own time checking out how applicants with that "handicap" are received. And if you make a habit out of reading SDN, you'll feel like anything less than a 9 in any one section is akin to the kiss of death. It's definitely not. I think if we each make sure that the rest of our app is as good as it can be, apply early, write excellent essays and interview genuinely, that we've all got a great shot at getting that golden ticket. It may take 20+ wonka bars, but it'll be there.

And to be honest, I enjoy rooting for anyone that had a "disagreement" with the MCAT monster too.

 

[Jolie South]

Yo. I have four interviews and I have a 7 in VR. My MCAT is 7VR, 12PS, 10BS R.

I knew it would be a problem so I tried to write an excellent PS and perfect my secondaries so that I could repel the notion that I cannot read and discern. So far it has worked for Vanderbilt, USC-Keck, Tulane and Louisville.

Unfortunately, some schools really don't like it. I spoke with the dean of admissions at Wake Forest and he said, "a verbal score that low is unacceptable for a native english speaker." And then he asked if I read often and if I knew how to. It was pretty harsh.

whoa, that's crazy. what an a**!

 

[Phoenix.]

Unfortunately, some schools really don't like it. I spoke with the dean of admissions at Wake Forest and he said, "a verbal score that low is unacceptable for a native english speaker." And then he asked if I read often and if I knew how to. It was pretty harsh.

Yeah, but Wake is just evil. 😉

 

[Inuranic]

Ah SDN - why do you screw with us so much, all the while still donating useful information for our journey?

 

[Dr.D-man]

I have an interview at MSU-CHM with a seven in verbal. It may help that I'm doing the EDP, but I'm not sure.

 

[shkaun]

Hey there

I have gotten two interviews with one rejection so far. I have a 7 V with 30 MCAT and good GPA. So based on my experiences, youll definitly be getting more interivews. Good luck....i no the 7 is terrorizing me too

 

[kdizzy]

I'm not applying this cycle but next. It'll be the end of my junior year. i currently have a 3.65 with last two quarters of 4.0s, if i keep pulling it up i'll have a 3.7 when i apply. my downfall is my MCAT 11 ps, 8 v, 11 bs...chances?

 

[bluesTank]

I have interviewed/have been invited to interview at every school I applied to in Texas with an 8 on verbal (still waiting on Baylor but they're AMCAS and I got it in a little late...) So thats 5 schools so far.

I don't think its too much of a problem for me so far.

 

[kdizzy]

i think my problem though is that i am a CA resident, so in terms of applying abroad, where would I have the greatest opportunity at?

 

[NFiasco]

hmmm do you think it would be wise to use Verbal reasoning as a weakness when asked such question on the interview? Or should explaining something non-academic be wise for the "what is your weakness" question?

 

[146233]

hmmm do you think it would be wise to use Verbal reasoning as a weakness when asked such question on the interview? Or should explaining something non-academic be wise for the "what is your weakness" question?

I don't think discussing part of your MCAT score as a weakness is a good idea, as it draws attention to a potentially negative part of your application. It doesn't have to be non-academic, per se, but they're looking for a habit or personality trait (i.e., don't say "My greatest weakness is physics"). 🙂

 

[Blade28]

I'm of the opinion that many schools may worry when they see a low MCAT paired with a high GPA. Again, this is just my own opinion, and I don't lend too much credit to those who claim they're "poor test takers" (because we've all had to take tests and do well to get to where we are)...but this may make them look more closely at your GPA, the classes involved, difficulty, etc.

Ditto with a high MCAT and low GPA - they may look and wonder if you were taking ridiculously tough classes or if your undergrad is historically known for tough curves.

Again, just IMHO.

 

[NFiasco]

I don't think discussing part of your MCAT score as a weakness is a good idea, as it draws attention to a potentially negative part of your application. It doesn't have to be non-academic, per se, but they're looking for a habit or personality trait (i.e., don't say "My greatest weakness is physics"). 🙂

I just thought it would be wise to reveal such weakness because they have all the grades infront of them. Atleast this way, I won't seem as if I'm trying to hide such an issue.

 

[SpartanBlueJay2]

I got a 7 in VR on my first MCAT, and got an interview at Case Western. My overall scores were 11 PS, 7 VR, 14 BS. I'm also a Case alum, and so is my dad, so take that however you want. I rewrote the MCAT on 8/6 and get the new scores tomorrow, and I'm on hold pretty much everywhere else until then.

 

[Phoenix.]

I just thought it would be wise to reveal such weakness because they have all the grades infront of them. Atleast this way, I won't seem as if I'm trying to hide such an issue.

If the score is right there in your app, who would think that you're "trying to hide such an issue"? I agree with zipmedic. I don't think you should use that as an example of one of your weaknesses, and I wouldn't discuss the MCAT unless the interviewer brings it up.

 

[kdizzy]

where are you on hold at?

 

[burningsky]

Unfortunately, some schools really don't like it. I spoke with the dean of admissions at Wake Forest and he said, "a verbal score that low is unacceptable for a native english speaker." And then he asked if I read often and if I knew how to. It was pretty harsh.

Do schools really give breaks on verbal to non-native English speakers? Do the schools expect these students to only treat patients who speak their native language or do they just give them some sort of misguided compassion?

I thought all American doctors needed to know English regardless of their ethnicity.

 

[sportstownusa]

got an interview at utmb, with a verbal score of 7 for the 2008 cycle.

 

[littlealex]

Any interviews with a 6 in verbal?

 

[lisichka]

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[SpartanBlueJay2]

where are you on hold at?

Check my MDApps... I'm on hold everywhere but Case and Emory (who still hasn't sent out their secondary 🙄)

 

[burningsky]

wow this is rough
FYI verbal MCAT is not SAT, there is no grammar, vocabulary, etc.

verbal MCAT is a timed test, and for some non-native speakers timing is a sensitive issue b/c it's their second, and sometimes third language, but in no way, it means they are illiterate or cannot communicate in English. And by the way there are many racist/nationalistic controversies as to why this section even exists, but i am not even touching on this subject. nope😎

So then why would someone involved in medical school admissions assume a native english speaker who scored low on verbal can't read? but if it's your second language and you score low then you can read?

 

[M.Furfur]

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[surfstarj]

wow this is rough
FYI verbal MCAT is not SAT, there is no grammar, vocabulary, etc.

verbal MCAT is a timed test, and for some non-native speakers timing is a sensitive issue b/c it's their second, and sometimes third language, but in no way, it means they are illiterate or cannot communicate in English. And by the way there are many racist/nationalistic controversies as to why this section even exists, but i am not even touching on this subject. nope😎

I speak several languages first of all, so this is not a "ENGLISH IS THE ONLY WAY" post, at all. BUT, there shouldn't be racist/nationalistic controversies over the MCAT. They do not require the MCAT for entrance to other countries' medical schools (I am assuming they have their own exam). The US medical schools, in the US where English is the only "official" national language, have deemed the MCAT their exam of choice. It wasn't built with international students in mind but that doesn't mean it is discriminating against them explicitly, just holding them to the same relative standards if they want to gain entrance to the same schools.

 

[Jolie South]

I speak several languages first of all, so this is not a "ENGLISH IS THE ONLY WAY" post, at all. BUT, there shouldn't be racist/nationalistic controversies over the MCAT. They do not require the MCAT for entrance to other countries' medical schools (I am assuming they have their own exam). The US medical schools, in the US where English is the only "official" national language, have deemed the MCAT their exam of choice. It wasn't built with international students in mind but that doesn't mean it is discriminating against them explicitly, just holding them to the same relative standards if they want to gain entrance to the same schools.

English isn't the official national language. There isn't one. 🙂

Carry on.

 

[SpartanBlueJay2]

English isn't the official national language. There isn't one. 🙂

Carry on.

Thanks, Jolie. It drives me bonkers when people say English is our official language. I constantly argue this with my mom.

 

[littlealex]

So then why would someone involved in medical school admissions assume a native english speaker who scored low on verbal can't read? but if it's your second language and you score low then you can read?

Verbal tests reading comprehension, an incredibly important aspect of succeeding in medicine. In fact, it has the highest correlation to Step1 scores of any section on the MCAT.

With that said, both people that scored low on verbal can't read. However, the non-native reader can at least read in another language and he has an excuse to why his comprehension is subpar. The native speaker just... I don't know, played too many video games and didn't read enough.

 

[surfstarj]

English isn't the official national language. There isn't one. 🙂

Carry on.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
Fine. I will request that I retake the MCAT in Italian since that is my native language. Then maybe that will help my performance in a US medical school where you will be dealing with complicated English all the time?

I don't care if it's "official" since it's what will be used to teach 99% of med school material. If you can't understand complicated text, you won't be able to keep up. There aren't enough hours in the day.

(VR doesn't exactly test reading comprehension either, but if you don't have this in English you definitely won't be able to perform the advanced tasks that it does test even if you could in your native language.)

 

[Jolie South]

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
Fine. I will request that I retake the MCAT in Italian since that is my native language. Then maybe that will help my performance in a US medical school where you will be dealing with complicated English all the time?

I don't care if it's "official" since it's what will be used to teach 99% of med school material. If you can't understand complicated text, you won't be able to keep up. There aren't enough hours in the day.

i wasn't disputing what you were saying. calm down.

i just wanted to point out that there are a lot of people in my neck of the woods that get offended if you say that english is the official language.

 

[surfstarj]

i wasn't disputing what you were saying. calm down.

i just wanted to point out that there are a lot of people in my neck of the woods that get offended if you say that english is the official language.

Sure. But when the "other" languages besides spanish and english compose a whopping 5% and all US schools function in English...there's no reason the MCAT could or would be offered in other languages.

 

[Jolie South]

Sure. But when the "other" languages besides spanish and english compose a whopping 5% and all US schools function in English...there's no reason the MCAT could or would be offered in other languages.

I agree. I don't think that the MCAT or med schools should use other languages. I'm just saying that when there are proposed laws aiming to set English as the official language all kinds of people come back and say it's discriminatory and against the multicultural heritage of this nation.

But, if we didn't use the same language, then we wouldn't be able to function.

 

[surfstarj]

Most definitely. And along the same lines, I DO think it's a shame that we don't do a better job of teaching other languages in schools especially Spanish...but that's for another day.

the mcat is the mcat. we are lucky enough that it got shortened to 5 hours of torture instead of 8.

 

[bawer234]

I got a 7 in Verbal with a 32P overall and a 3.7 GPA. So far I have three interviews so im not stressing out about it too bad.

 

[LaDaLa]

*feels better* I just found out that my friend with a 7 in verbal already got two interviews (NYMC and VCU)!

 

[lisichka]

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[kdizzy]

how do i check your/anyone's MD app?

 

[jae9970]

8 verbal here and i have no interviews yet..

 

[Phoenix.]

8 verbal here and i have no interviews yet..

Are you even complete anywhere yet? Doesn't sound like it from your mdapps. You can't start stressing about not having any interviews until you've turned in more than a handful of your secondaries, your LOR has been submitted, and you've actually received notice that you've been complete at a bunch of schools for at least two weeks.

 

[fiji]

i have a 7 in verbal with a 29Q overall and i have interviews at UVM and RFU.