Was going to reply to this --
then saw your post where you said you are a Texan --
and realized that you already knew with certainty what becomes of places that loathe their best and brightest...
In Texas, they end up in the White House.
Was going to reply to this --
then saw your post where you said you are a Texan --
and realized that you already knew with certainty what becomes of places that loathe their best and brightest...
I was interviewing at a school that only interviews about 3 people a day. Me and another guy were talking with the admission's receptionist lady and we were having a decent conversation until the 3rd interviewee showed up and pretty much shunned us two guys and started conversing with the receptionist. During this one sided conversation, she made sure to let us know how many interviews she had gone on already (9?) and how many acceptances she had already (3). Then she started complaining at how much traveling she had done already and how much more she still has to do. Then she informed us that her mom had travelled with her to most of these interviews and she was so grateful that she was gonna buy her mom some camera that's "really" expensive. NONE of these things were asked of her. She sprung them up out of nowhere.
Me and the other guy just kinda looked at each other and were like wtf? The receptionist lady seemed pretty annoyed, too.
Every interview I went to I was surrounded by these people. "You are thinking of rad onc? I would never do that. Imagine if you're on a plane and they call for a doctor you would start to stand up then realize you arent a real doctor and sit down". "Wow 26. You're pretty old. I can't believe you think you can get in even though you already graduated". "You took classes at a cc? Do you know someone here that got you an interview or something?". "I've never heard of that school. I went to Duke though so I'm sure I've had a lot harder classes than you". While at one school one guy kept saying how much better another school was right in front of our MS2 ambassador.
I met a bunch of tools at every single interview. Strangely, every single med student I talked to was extremely helpful, supportive and friendly.
Is this supposed to be funny? What a contemptible thing to say.Was going to reply to this --
then saw your post where you said you are a Texan --
and realized that you already knew with certainty what becomes of places that loathe their best and brightest...
There's a reason I live in the Northeast now lol. I love my relatives, but we'd always come to odds over policy and whatnot, because it really can be a hard right state. They're very anti-intellectual and believe higher education is basically a liberal conspiracy to indoctrinate the masses. If we disagree about anything, they claim it's just liberal indoctrination in college that has warped my views, despite the fact I'm dead-center on the political spectrum. They really don't trust scientific reporting at all, and, while they respect my decision to pursue medical school, believe the medical industry has sold out to big pharma etc.Was going to reply to this --
then saw your post where you said you are a Texan --
and realized that you already knew with certainty what becomes of places that loathe their best and brightest...
Is this supposed to be funny? What a contemptible thing to say.
All the way back to when you joined SDN two days ago?I just had a manatee flashback
All the way back to when you joined SDN two days ago?
Is this supposed to be funny? What a contemptible thing to say.
Not at all.Contemptible? I was joking -- were you?
Kinda off topic but every time SDN is brought up amongst interviewees, everyone talks negatively about it and say how they don't even read the posts and ignore the SDN neuroticism. In reality, I bet 99% of them (including me) are you frequent posters here on SDN.
Kinda off topic but every time SDN is brought up amongst interviewees, everyone talks negatively about it and say how they don't even read the posts and ignore the SDN neuroticism. In reality, I bet 99% of them (including me) are you frequent posters here on SDN.
Same. I always found it weird when adcoms/deans would bash SDN as well. I mean...their peers are on these forums giving advice...they are essentially bashing their fellow adcoms/attendings.
I wonder if anyone here is really an adcom who likes to troll premeds for fun.
I think it varies from school to school. At least one school I interviewed at actually encouraged applicants to use SDN. My premed advisor at a large state school hated it though and actively discouraged students from even checking it out. The rest of his advice was terrible though.Same. I always found it weird when adcoms/deans would bash SDN as well. I mean...their peers are on these forums giving advice...they are essentially bashing their fellow adcoms/attendings.
Same. I always found it weird when adcoms/deans would bash SDN as well. I mean...their peers are on these forums giving advice...they are essentially bashing their fellow adcoms/attendings.
It's a self-selecting group posting on SDN. Not a single person I know has discouraged me from reading SDN and in fact, most people encourage reading it. People are deriding the culture it perpetuates, not debating its usefulness. How is this so inconsistent?
Every interview I went to I was surrounded by these people. "You are thinking of rad onc? I would never do that. Imagine if you're on a plane and they call for a doctor you would start to stand up then realize you arent a real doctor and sit down". "Wow 26. You're pretty old. I can't believe you think you can get in even though you already graduated". "You took classes at a cc? Do you know someone here that got you an interview or something?". "I've never heard of that school. I went to Duke though so I'm sure I've had a lot harder classes than you". While at one school one guy kept saying how much better another school was right in front of our MS2 ambassador.
I met a bunch of tools at every single interview. Strangely, every single med student I talked to was extremely helpful, supportive and friendly.
Kinda off topic but every time SDN is brought up amongst interviewees, everyone talks negatively about it and say how they don't even read the posts and ignore the SDN neuroticism. In reality, I bet 99% of them (including me) are you frequent posters here on SDN.
There are definitely deans/adcoms that have derided its usefulness. I've heard it with my own ears at interviews.
Well, I can't argue with someone who has heard it with their "own ears at interviews." 😉 Your earnestness is remarkably sweet, by the way.
Think of reading SDN as preparation for medical school in a different vein then. Learning to filter information and finding what rings true to you. Yes, there are saboteurs and there is exaggeration. There is still a lot of useful advice that gets you ahead in the game. You'll have to spot patterns of what works and learn to filter what people say as a physician as well.
Well if you want proof...look at the UMICH Twitter. "#SDNunrealiablesource" "SDN: These "stats" are reported for our school: Applicants: 4343 Interviewed: 441 Accepted: 299 Enrolled: 80 --what? Don't trust SDN :-/"
He was a little harsher during interview day....unfortunately I didn't record the session.
Well if you want proof...look at the UMICH Twitter. "#SDNunrealiablesource" "SDN: These "stats" are reported for our school: Applicants: 4343 Interviewed: 441 Accepted: 299 Enrolled: 80 --what? Don't trust SDN :-/"
He was a little harsher during interview day....unfortunately I didn't record the session.
That specific set of numbers appear to refer to only the OOS applicant pool, so it might still be half-accurate.
the umich dean has had a hard-on for sdn for a long time. he needs to get over himselfWell if you want proof...look at the UMICH Twitter. "#SDNunrealiablesource" "SDN: These "stats" are reported for our school: Applicants: 4343 Interviewed: 441 Accepted: 299 Enrolled: 80 --what? Don't trust SDN :-/"
He was a little harsher during interview day....unfortunately I didn't record the session.
Well if you want proof...look at the UMICH Twitter. "#SDNunrealiablesource" "SDN: These "stats" are reported for our school: Applicants: 4343 Interviewed: 441 Accepted: 299 Enrolled: 80 --what? Don't trust SDN :-/"
He was a little harsher during interview day....unfortunately I didn't record the session.
Well, SDN pretty much gave me the info I needed to get into med school. I don't think anyone takes every little thing on here as gospel. As an aside, those stats are likely sourced from MSAR or US News. So, technically, he should blame them as unreliable. And if it's MSAR, then who's fault is it that those numbers are wrong?
I knew a guy who once told a group of us studying at the same table that he applied to Columbia. When I asked him if he was eager to live in NY, he gave me a blank stare and corrected me, "Um, no...University of Missouri--Columbia."
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I'm Texan, the personality comes with the territory. I'm always honest, I'm a straight shooter, and I don't hold back. If you think that people kowtowing around one another's feelings is how people should be, then I guess that's your prerogative. Personally, I respect people enough to tell them how I feel about them to their face, and to believe that they are capable of conversing about difficult and sometimes controversial topics and issues without crying in a shower somewhere afterward.
Edit: I will state for the record that I have never claimed to not be a dick.
at my state school interview, when we were going around saying where we were all from, one guy stated he went to "Columbia University in the City of New York." killed me.
please tell me this didn't happen at my school...
It's like taking medicine. It doesn't taste good but you have to do it to get better.
i know that's the official name, it's just that he said it. his name tag just said columbia. you know, like how a normal person would say itThough it is kind of douchey for him to actually say it, in his defense, that is the "official" name of the school. It's really awkward because that's how it populates in AMCAS so that's how it gets printed on all the name tags. At like 90% of my interviews I got comments on it and had to explain that I was not being pretentious (and choosing the name on the tag), that's just what they call themselves.
i know that's the official name, it's just that he said it. his name tag just said columbia.you know, like how a normal person would say it
lulz, because there is some other Columbia University that warrants this distinction?
For residency applications - I will be graduating from Cornell University's Weill Cornell Medical College at New York Presbyterian Hospital in New York, NY, or CUWCMC@NyPHiNYNY, for short.
I went to Columbia College in Sonora, California. It's a community college that warrants my distinction, dick.
I went to Columbia College in Sonora, California. It's a community college that warrants my distinction, dick.
Who knew there were so many Columbias 😵
You should just say you went to "Columbia," it will impress more people
Take it easy with the language there - there are a number of schools called Columbia College....there is only one Columbia University....and I make the distinction of University in the post you quoted.
Yeah, like I said in my later post, Texans aren't all alike. It's a diverse state, and many of the people, particularly in the cities, are very cultured, intelligent, and well-mannered.Please don't make a bad name for us lol. San Antonio native here....nicest guy you'll ever know ;-)
Yeah, like I said in my later post, Texans aren't all alike. It's a diverse state, and many of the people, particularly in the cities, are very cultured, intelligent, and well-mannered.