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I'll start
1. UW
2. Mayo
3. Yale
1. UW
2. Mayo
3. Yale
Hey dude, I have arrived at my decision after much agony and I am proclaiming it to the world. Whassup.Jamezuva said:have you lost your gord?!?!
Pili said:I'll start
1. UW
2. Mayo
3. Yale
It's my concern about fellowship placement, plus difficulties of securing a job while competing against the true big dogs...BID is definitely not MGH or BW.Jackie1. said:May I ask why BID is not up there, I'm just curious b/c you talked about them often and I thought they ae pretty high caliber. Thanx
word... just a joke, dudePili said:Hey dude, I have arrived at my decision after much agony and I am proclaiming it to the world. Whassup.
Cardsman said:1)U chicago - from the midwest, definitely the best in Chicago
2)Columbia - wouldn't mind NYC
3)MGH - gotta include the hahvads
4)Brigham
Jamezuva said:
who? me or him?the citizen said:Still joking?
Pili said:I'll start
1. UW
2. Mayo
3. Yale
My fiancee!!! I would have stayed in Texas: many jobs, better pay, the TMC, a very strong Texas Medical Association...Buy my fiancee is feeling adventurous. She has links to the first and third places. The second (Mayo) is a program that really impressed me...hemoglobin said:Hey Pili!!! After all your posts about the TMC, I was thinking I was gonna see either Baylor or UT Houston in or top three... May I ask you what made you change your mind?
Hb
Pili said:My fiancee!!! I would have stayed in Texas: many jobs, better pay, the TMC, a very strong Texas Medical Association...Buy my fiancee is feeling adventurous. She has links to the first and third places. The second (Mayo) is a program that really impressed me...
CoolMD2BE said:1. MGH
2. Hopkins
3. UCSF
4. BWH
5. BIDMC
6. Penn
7. Stanford
8. Columbia
9. Yale
10. Cornell
11. Michigan
12. Mayo
13. Wash U.
14. UTSW
What do you guys think? - I want to go into Nephrology...I love the KIDNEY!
I think you're right...I think BIDMC should go belows Penn, Stanford, Columbia, and Yale. Just above Cornell. Also, I will probably put Mayo above Michigan. This is getting annoying and I think I went on too many interviews. I really wanted to see Duke but they rejected me...that's alright, maybe for fellowship .bigtuna said:Unless you are dead set on boston, you have BIDMC ranked above some programs that are much better.
CoolMD2BE said:I think you're right...I think BIDMC should go belows Penn, Stanford, Columbia, and Yale. Just above Cornell. Also, I will probably put Mayo above Michigan. This is getting annoying and I think I went on too many interviews. I really wanted to see Duke but they rejected me...that's alright, maybe for fellowship .
CoolMD2BE said:I think you're right...I think BIDMC should go belows Penn, Stanford, Columbia, and Yale. Just above Cornell. Also, I will probably put Mayo above Michigan. This is getting annoying and I think I went on too many interviews. I really wanted to see Duke but they rejected me...that's alright, maybe for fellowship .
umm...nopeJackie1. said:Why would you think Mayo should go above Michigan? Mayo is a good place for fellowships, not residency. I think they are also way less competitive than Michigan in selecting candidates, which transfers over to the quality of traning. I think Michigan should be above Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and BIDMC on that list and probably right on par with Penn. It is a great program that is very reputatable that puts out awesome fellowships, I think it is underratered though because it's located in the cold Midwest and isn't one of the "Ivy League" places. Does anyone agree?
Jamezuva said:umm...nope
bigtuna said:I agree. Mayo probably has training that is about as good as any of a number of top programs. However, the reputation for a top IM training program is simply not there. There are plenty of people in academic IM who just don't think this is a top program and it is not competitive to match there at all.
Flame away mayo lovers!!!
I would put wash u, michigan, and UTSW above BIDMC, stanford, colombia, yale.
I think Mayo accepts awesome residents. Perhaps the "most spoiled" candidates would not rank Mayo ahead of say UCSF, their loss, not Mayo's loss, but Mayo truly selects globally outstanding candidates. Their IMGs, mostly European, are the cream of the crop and add to the educational experience. The PD is awesome. Fellowship directors know that Mayo puts out very well trained docs. I am a big Mayo fan, if you can't tell.CoolMD2BE said:Mayo represents a paradox for me...we all know that Mayo isn't the most competitive program to enter and doesn't have the reputation of Harvard, Hopkins, etc. But what is amazing about Mayo is how well these "less-competitive" people who enter the program do...Their fellowship match list is quite impressive (supposedly it is exceedingly rare for people to go unmatched in the fellowship of choice and usually location of choice), they have a 100% pass rate on ABIM boards, and they avg. many publications. I have said this before, I judge programs on their outcomes, because that is truly an indication of "repuation" or at least that is what "reputation" should be based on. It seems to me that Mayo takes "less-competitive" candidates and turns them into "super-competitive" candidates and isn't that what you want in a program? Nevertheless, I am probably going to match higher.
-G
PS: They say over 1/3 of their class in IM is AOA, so it is really not that competitive???
CoolMD2BE said:Mayo represents a paradox for me...we all know that Mayo isn't the most competitive program to enter and doesn't have the reputation of Harvard, Hopkins, etc. But what is amazing about Mayo is how well these "less-competitive" people who enter the program do...Their fellowship match list is quite impressive (supposedly it is exceedingly rare for people to go unmatched in the fellowship of choice and usually location of choice), they have a 100% pass rate on ABIM boards, and they avg. many publications. I have said this before, I judge programs on their outcomes, because that is truly an indication of "repuation" or at least that is what "reputation" should be based on. It seems to me that Mayo takes "less-competitive" candidates and turns them into "super-competitive" candidates and isn't that what you want in a program? Nevertheless, I am probably going to match higher.
-G
PS: They say over 1/3 of their class in IM is AOA, so it is really not that competitive???
med1234 said:You have to keep in mind, location is a big deal. It's why some california programs are probably more competitive than they ought to be. I'm sure Mayo's a great place, but I didn't even apply there because from my view, it's in the middle of nowhere. Most people probably look primarily east coast, west coast, or midwest. Mayo's not really any of those and geographically, is relatively isolated. That's probably what makes it less competitive.
carol ann said:I'm pretty sure that Minnesota is in the midwest, unless Canada succeeded in getting it relocated to the Northwest territories in order to gain access to those mines but...I digress
med1234 said:technically, yeah, ok... but i still don't really consider it midwest as much as i consider it in the middle of nowhere.
Pili said:There are 3000+ views of this post but only 30-40 replies. Some 2,960 guys and gals are not cooperatin' but are takin' advantage of our honesty. Not good.
nhs195 said:NU
Wash U
Emory
BU