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Does anyone hate this...how do you keep yourself going
Outpatient stuff really isn't so bad. In terms of hours Medicine and Surgery are necessary evils. Just know you'll get through it and then you can focus on some specialty that's lighter on the hours allowing you time to achieve balance and contentment.Actually I would pretty much agree. I've had to make a lot of sacrifices due to the hours...things that really used to make me happy and that I've had to seriously neglect. Friends..exercise, sleep, romance..basically everything. I somewhat dislike the content bef def hate the hours. I'm always sleep deprived and am getting in worse shape, it's disheartening
I'm on Medicine but I don't know if I foresee it being much better on most other rotations. Surg next and I'm def not counting on that...sigh
Actually I would pretty much agree. I've had to make a lot of sacrifices due to the hours...things that really used to make me happy and that I've had to seriously neglect. Friends..exercise, sleep, romance..basically everything. I somewhat dislike the content bef def hate the hours. I'm always sleep deprived and am getting in worse shape, it's disheartening
I'm on Medicine but I don't know if I foresee it being much better on most other rotations. Surg next and I'm def not counting on that...sigh
I love being continuously updated on the brangelina saga between sessions of determining if post-partum women have farted or pooped.
The med students who whine the most are the ones who have never had a job.
I love being continuously updated on the brangelina saga between sessions of determining if post-partum women have farted or pooped.
The med students who whine the most are the ones who have never had a job.
Mmmm, I'm sure you mean a job where you didn't have to say,"Would you like fries with that?".....or "Would you like me to get the next larger size for you, sir?"......I'm sure you mean the ones where you were paid a salaried wage and expected to perform or were paid hourly but expected to perform like salaried.....and your boss, with all the foibles, basically controlled your life no matter how much you 'studded up' to your buds after work and threatened to quit ...realizing the mortgage and your family eating was holding you back from walking out and 'making it on your own'....right?
BTDT, got the cap,ball,bat,hat and glove.....
Umm...I've worked 3 different professional jobs in banking, 2 years in clinical medicine and a year at the NIH before stepping foot in med school.
Third year still blows.
Third year BLOWS. Worst year in med school, IMO.
Little sleep, little control over your schedule, you barely know anything, you look RIDICULOUS in a short white coat, brief moments of teaching in between long periods of just plain inefficiency, annoying/stupid interns who forgot they were MEDICAL STUDENTS a month ago, passive-aggresive personalities (Ob/Gyn), etc, etc. The list goes on and on.
Here's how I handled it: Don't care about the eval but crush the shelf. Every month I had a "cousin's wedding" to attend in California so I took a 4 day weekend to myself. I'd sleep in, party, shop, see family. We were allowed 2-3 days off per rotation at PCOM. I made sure I used my personal days as a 3rd yr!
OTOH, 1st and 2nd yr were the best yrs, hands down.
so, you're one of the med students whining the most?
Let me spell this out for you son b/c you seem to be having trouble with it:
I said 3rd year blows.
You said med students who whine are often those with no work experience.
I said I have plenty of work experience, 3rd year still blows.
We on the same page here? Anyone home?
It's like when somebody in a crowd calls out "Hey a**hole!" and you turn around...
While I think I can imagine who you're talking about, I really haven't dealt with much of that.yeah, you know, paying your own rent... I'm surrounded by med students who didn't know how to file taxes because they'd never worked before. Straight from the gated community to the private school to the next private school then on to med school without having worked at all.
I don't know what all the baseball gear is for but you'll have trouble wearing both a hat and a cap.
Yeah, thus far I'd consider myself pretty fortunate as to having good people on my team. I'm kind of worried about how much it would suck if I had some real douchebags or gunners on my team.I think a great deal depends on your attending and your team. There are people with horrible teams that are really hating third year... I'm on a really wonderful team, learning a lot, doing a lot, and having a fabulous time.
Chin up. Perhaps next rotation will be better. Just remember how you felt and how others treated you when you have students of your own.
Sleep deprivation and negative effects on health are a big negative for me thus far in third year. I really miss yr1 and 2, they were a real walk in the park.I just don't like being sleep-deprived. I don't mind long hours so much, I just hate dragging all day.
Let's just say if you get to do something other than sit in a lecture hall or sit on your ass studying a book or powerpoint all day, then I'm really looking forward to it.
I can't imagine anything sucking the life out of me more than sitting around reading or trying to listen to another boring lecture 18 hours a day has done.
While I think I can imagine who you're talking about, I really haven't dealt with much of that.
I just don't like being sleep-deprived. I don't mind long hours so much, I just hate dragging all day.
I think the worst thing about third year is loving and hating some things about the rotations I've done- which makes it a lot harder to figure out what I want to do. I'm not one of those third years who already knows what specialty I want to do.
I've done ob/gyn and peds.
Ob/gyn- hours were terrible, didn't really enjoy the faculty or residents as much as pediatrics, but the surgery part was cool. I don't mind rounding on post-surg patients because it's so quick, but then again, there's not a lot of teaching either. I didn't like the material as much on ob/gyn, but love deliveries and surgery.
Peds- the hours are FANTASTIC, the residents were all SO nice and fun to be around. I didn't even mind being on call, because they let us hang out in the resident's lounge and we all just hung out and watched tv and talked. whereas on ob/gyn we were not even allowed in the lounge 9/10, and when you were "invited" it was really, really awkward and quiet. Not nearly as friendly. But then dealing with kids... that's hard because they're kind of a mystery since they often can't tell you what's wrong.
I do agree that so much of enjoying a rotation is who you're with. Hang in there everyone! I'm just looking forward to psychiatry and family!!! Never setting my alarm before 7:00
Actually I would pretty much agree. I've had to make a lot of sacrifices due to the hours...things that really used to make me happy and that I've had to seriously neglect. Friends..exercise, sleep, romance..basically everything. I somewhat dislike the content bef def hate the hours. I'm always sleep deprived and am getting in worse shape, it's disheartening
I'm on Medicine but I don't know if I foresee it being much better on most other rotations. Surg next and I'm def not counting on that...sigh
I dunno...I would quite love that actually. I jush wish I could get more free time off. The time commitment of third year so far is killing me. And this relentless paperwork and rounding and micromanagement in Int Med is driving me insane. Can't wait til it's done at the end of this week.these consultant rotations where you just shadow, never write a note, never look at labs are really painful
Yeah, I'm looking forward to shorter notes and H&Ps that don't easily run six pages.I dunno...I would quite love that actually. I jush wish I could get more free time off. The time commitment of third year so far is killing me. And this relentless paperwork and rounding and micromanagement in Int Med is driving me insane. Can't wait til it's done at the end of this week.
I dunno...getting home at dark o clock every day would be pretty bad too. And not out of the question come winterthere is nothing more painful to me than waking up at dark o'clock every day
Ob/gyn- hours were terrible, didn't really enjoy the faculty or residents as much as pediatrics, but the surgery part was cool. I don't mind rounding on post-surg patients because it's so quick, but then again, there's not a lot of teaching either. I didn't like the material as much on ob/gyn, but love deliveries and surgery.
Peds- the hours are FANTASTIC, the residents were all SO nice and fun to be around. I didn't even mind being on call, because they let us hang out in the resident's lounge and we all just hung out and watched tv and talked. whereas on ob/gyn we were not even allowed in the lounge 9/10, and when you were "invited" it was really, really awkward and quiet. Not nearly as friendly. But then dealing with kids... that's hard because they're kind of a mystery since they often can't tell you what's wrong.
Let's just say if you get to do something other than sit in a lecture hall or sit on your ass studying a book or powerpoint all day, then I'm really looking forward to it.
I can't imagine anything sucking the life out of me more than sitting around reading or trying to listen to another boring lecture 18 hours a day has done.