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Anybody out there have a great interview and then get outright rejected (not waitlisted, but actually rejected)?
Anyone REJECTED after a GREAT interview?
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It depends on the school for the movement of the waitlist. I've heard of as much as a fourth of the class getting in off the waitlist while at other places only a couple of people get off. So, i guess it looks like its pretty random to me, since there are a lot of factors to consider.
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Yes, interviews are not really a strong indicator of acceptance. However, the interpretation of a "great" or "terrible" interview is done by the applicant so we can never know how we are perceived through the eyes of the interviewers.
I was given a tour of the clinic by a doctor who interviewed me. He even introduced me to his colleagues. The student interviewer told me that my inteview was by far the best he has ever seen. But in the end, I was waitlisted. The decision ultimately rests on the admissions committee so you never know.
I was given a tour of the clinic by a doctor who interviewed me. He even introduced me to his colleagues. The student interviewer told me that my inteview was by far the best he has ever seen. But in the end, I was waitlisted. The decision ultimately rests on the admissions committee so you never know.
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Got the entire 'medical ethics' book thrown at me in terms of questions at U Florida...
Was enthusiastic, yet slightly critical of the school to my student interviewer and shown around the equipment and dept. by my faculty interviewer at U South Florida..
Bumbled my way with lots of 'i dont know' and uncomfotrable silences with my faculty interviewer at U Chicago..
Had my most casual and engaging interview at U Pitt..
WAITLISTED at every school. Too many other variables to predict this one. Still, I'm interested in hearing stories.
Was enthusiastic, yet slightly critical of the school to my student interviewer and shown around the equipment and dept. by my faculty interviewer at U South Florida..
Bumbled my way with lots of 'i dont know' and uncomfotrable silences with my faculty interviewer at U Chicago..
Had my most casual and engaging interview at U Pitt..
WAITLISTED at every school. Too many other variables to predict this one. Still, I'm interested in hearing stories.
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by barb:
•Why would a waitlist position be as a good as a rejection? Don't a lot of people get off the waitlist?•••••A slightly unusual situation. Alaska has no med school. We get 10 spots reserved for us at U. of Washington through the WWAMI program. They also waitlist 10. I'm #7. Unlikely they'll get to me, although they did get down to #6 last year. Most years, though, they only take 1 or 2 off the waitlist.
Generally speaking though, I've been accepted after "great" interviews.
•Why would a waitlist position be as a good as a rejection? Don't a lot of people get off the waitlist?•••••A slightly unusual situation. Alaska has no med school. We get 10 spots reserved for us at U. of Washington through the WWAMI program. They also waitlist 10. I'm #7. Unlikely they'll get to me, although they did get down to #6 last year. Most years, though, they only take 1 or 2 off the waitlist.
Generally speaking though, I've been accepted after "great" interviews.
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Had a BU interview last year and my interviewer told me that he/she doesn't see any problem with me getting accepted. He/she said that in their decades at the medical school they had never meet someone so determined and focused. Check this out. I got a friggin rejection letter 1 week later!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Such a quick response must have meant that thier mind was made up very quickly......... When it all comes down to it, your numbers (GPA, MCAT) are they key.
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what do you mean he/she, kobe? you don't remember if the interviewer was male or female? because maybe that was the source of the problem. jj 😛
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i got waitlisted at wake after what i thought were interviews comperable to my previous 2. those 1st 2 schools i interviewed at got me acceptances...lo and behold a waitlist from wake... oh well.
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I think it's very difficult for us to judge how well our interviews actually "went," even if we feel that all progressed smoothly, because although we might be given signals that an interviewer likes/dislikes us, that interviewer's weight and role as pertains to the rest of the admissions committee is beyond our control! From my own experience. . . my interviews varied enormously, yet there seemed to be no correlation b/t interview & acceptance. I don't necessarily think it means that the interview has little effect, either, because in my case, my composite MCAT was below the average for a good portion of the schools at which I interviewed, and so I'm inclined to believe that the interview held more importance than it may have for someone with really stellar stats.
Just to give an idea, here's the run-down. . . all of these interviews ultimately ended in acceptances.
School 1: Student interviewer was very positive and friendly, we got along quite well!
Faculty interview went okay. . . it was difficult to ascertain what she thought.
School 2: Both interviews, one with a faculty member and another with a dean who sat on the committee, were lukewarm at best. The faculty member, in particular, seemed bored and distinterested.
School 3: Wonderful interview with dean of admissions. We wound up talking about all the things about which I'm passionate, and laughed a lot.
School 4: Interview went HORRIBLY. It was with a faculty member, I have no clue if he was on the committee because he never really introduced himself. He was very cynical about everything I'd done and made a point of picking out the sore spots in my application. He exuded a negative attitude from the start. . . almost as if I was completely wasting his time. I left the interview convinced that I would be rejected, and was SHOCKED when the opposite occurred!
School 5: By far my best interview; we talked for an hour & 1/2, about anything that came to mind. She introduced me to other students and a few doctors in the ER, and gave me tips about med school in general.
After all this. . . I really can't detect a pattern! But as I said, I don't think that the interviews "didn't really count," b/c if that was the case I think I would have been rejected based on my MCAT (which isn't bad, but is mediocre compared to some of the stellar scores that appear at some of these schools!). So I dunno!
I hope this has been some help, perhaps to demonstrate, if nothing else, that the process can be variable!
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Just to give an idea, here's the run-down. . . all of these interviews ultimately ended in acceptances.
School 1: Student interviewer was very positive and friendly, we got along quite well!
Faculty interview went okay. . . it was difficult to ascertain what she thought.
School 2: Both interviews, one with a faculty member and another with a dean who sat on the committee, were lukewarm at best. The faculty member, in particular, seemed bored and distinterested.
School 3: Wonderful interview with dean of admissions. We wound up talking about all the things about which I'm passionate, and laughed a lot.
School 4: Interview went HORRIBLY. It was with a faculty member, I have no clue if he was on the committee because he never really introduced himself. He was very cynical about everything I'd done and made a point of picking out the sore spots in my application. He exuded a negative attitude from the start. . . almost as if I was completely wasting his time. I left the interview convinced that I would be rejected, and was SHOCKED when the opposite occurred!
School 5: By far my best interview; we talked for an hour & 1/2, about anything that came to mind. She introduced me to other students and a few doctors in the ER, and gave me tips about med school in general.
After all this. . . I really can't detect a pattern! But as I said, I don't think that the interviews "didn't really count," b/c if that was the case I think I would have been rejected based on my MCAT (which isn't bad, but is mediocre compared to some of the stellar scores that appear at some of these schools!). So I dunno!
I hope this has been some help, perhaps to demonstrate, if nothing else, that the process can be variable!
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Ok I want to share an interview experience and please let me know what you guys think it means. But what bears repeating is what Morninglight just said:
•••quote:•••Originally posted by MorningLight2100:
•I think it's very difficult for us to judge how well our interviews actually "went," even if we feel that all progressed smoothly, because although we might be given signals that an interviewer likes/dislikes us, that interviewer's weight and role as pertains to the rest of the admissions committee is beyond our control! From my own experience. . . my interviews varied enormously, yet there seemed to be no correlation b/t interview & acceptance. I don't necessarily think it means that the interview has little effect, either, because in my case, my composite MCAT was below the average for a good portion of the schools at which I interviewed, and so I'm inclined to believe that the interview held more importance than it may have for someone with really stellar stats. •••••At med school X, I was having a really cool conversation with the Associate Dean who happened to be doing interviews that day. After an hour long talk with me describing my undergrad years, my family background, service projects, academics e.g. she was so interested and persistent in trying to understand my humanities thesis project, because even though it was obscure it reminded her of some new research she had read about and she wanted to draw a connection 😀 . Then as I prepared to leave because I had to catch my flight, she matter of factly stated "I think you would be great as a student here, so I need to get you past the next stage of the review process which is a vote by a sixteen member committee. They will only look at the items in your file that I highlight, so help me present your file as you think will be most effective, by summing up and giving me any other information I need."
I was like huh for a second, then I realized what she wanted and started talking continuously for 5 minutes while she scribbled down everything she could get about me. I really don't wanna get my hopes up. Has anybody else gotten such concrete feedback, where the interviewer didn't just give you positive signals, but wanted to go about the business of making sure you were accepted?
•••quote:•••Originally posted by MorningLight2100:
•I think it's very difficult for us to judge how well our interviews actually "went," even if we feel that all progressed smoothly, because although we might be given signals that an interviewer likes/dislikes us, that interviewer's weight and role as pertains to the rest of the admissions committee is beyond our control! From my own experience. . . my interviews varied enormously, yet there seemed to be no correlation b/t interview & acceptance. I don't necessarily think it means that the interview has little effect, either, because in my case, my composite MCAT was below the average for a good portion of the schools at which I interviewed, and so I'm inclined to believe that the interview held more importance than it may have for someone with really stellar stats. •••••At med school X, I was having a really cool conversation with the Associate Dean who happened to be doing interviews that day. After an hour long talk with me describing my undergrad years, my family background, service projects, academics e.g. she was so interested and persistent in trying to understand my humanities thesis project, because even though it was obscure it reminded her of some new research she had read about and she wanted to draw a connection 😀 . Then as I prepared to leave because I had to catch my flight, she matter of factly stated "I think you would be great as a student here, so I need to get you past the next stage of the review process which is a vote by a sixteen member committee. They will only look at the items in your file that I highlight, so help me present your file as you think will be most effective, by summing up and giving me any other information I need."
I was like huh for a second, then I realized what she wanted and started talking continuously for 5 minutes while she scribbled down everything she could get about me. I really don't wanna get my hopes up. Has anybody else gotten such concrete feedback, where the interviewer didn't just give you positive signals, but wanted to go about the business of making sure you were accepted?
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Happened to me at cincy. The interviewer was practically praising my application and told me how good it would be for me to move there, and gave me a tour afterwards.....put on hold 7 weeks later. 😕 <img border="0" alt="[Pity]" title="" src="graemlins/pity.gif" />
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I had an interviewer at MCW tell me I had the best MCAT he had ever seen and he was extremely impressed and I probably should have gone MD/PHD instead of just normal MD. If I needed anything at all at MCW, to call him. And he wished me luck, telling me I would probably get into a lot better school. I was the only rejection from people I know of at that interview session.
I had an AWESOME interview at Duke (one was above average for me, the other was the best one I'd ever had - by a long shot), yet I was not accepted in the first round.
I will updated if I get in during the second round, and I remain hopeful, but things are looking grim.
I will updated if I get in during the second round, and I remain hopeful, but things are looking grim.
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Jalbrekt,
There is a possibility that you were rejected from MCW because you were over-qualified. The interviewer said so himself, that you would get into better schools. So I think they don't want to waste your time and their time accepting you only to get a turn-down from you in the end
There is a possibility that you were rejected from MCW because you were over-qualified. The interviewer said so himself, that you would get into better schools. So I think they don't want to waste your time and their time accepting you only to get a turn-down from you in the end
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I second cambrian's post. However it is a bit screwy - I know some people who went through similar situations, rejected by "lower" schools that thought candidates would be accepted by better ones only to be rejected by those too.
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by player:
•interviews don't mean sh#t!
I got waitlisted after a fantastic one...the doc even gave me a personal mini-tour of the hospital afterwars.•••••ditto, except the sh#t part :wink:
This is what I hear for many med schools: interviewers usually give a written evaluation of you to the admissions committee and they vote on you. In the end, your mcat and GPA are calculated in and they are able to rank you numerically.
•interviews don't mean sh#t!
I got waitlisted after a fantastic one...the doc even gave me a personal mini-tour of the hospital afterwars.•••••ditto, except the sh#t part :wink:
This is what I hear for many med schools: interviewers usually give a written evaluation of you to the admissions committee and they vote on you. In the end, your mcat and GPA are calculated in and they are able to rank you numerically.
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by Pip413:
•WHAT??? Are you serious? Being overqualified a liability?•••••Yeah I hear this all the time too. All the more reason why there is no such thing as a "safety" school. You really need to know what schools are right for you because straying too far above or below the schools you "fit" at will more likely lead to disappointment.
•WHAT??? Are you serious? Being overqualified a liability?•••••Yeah I hear this all the time too. All the more reason why there is no such thing as a "safety" school. You really need to know what schools are right for you because straying too far above or below the schools you "fit" at will more likely lead to disappointment.
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I'll agree with the comment about having a great duke interview as well -- clicked with both and we had great conversations. really felt like they got to know me and I went well with their program. No letter in the first round, so looks like another trip to waitlist/reject land, one of my favorite spots!
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did you already get a waitlist letter?
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Gainer:
•I had an AWESOME interview at Duke (one was above average for me, the other was the best one I'd ever had - by a long shot), yet I was not accepted in the first round.
I will updated if I get in during the second round, and I remain hopeful, but things are looking grim.•••••
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Gainer:
•I had an AWESOME interview at Duke (one was above average for me, the other was the best one I'd ever had - by a long shot), yet I was not accepted in the first round.
I will updated if I get in during the second round, and I remain hopeful, but things are looking grim.•••••
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I had a great interview at one of my state schools... and my reward was a waitlist.
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My turn, I have had 6 interviews so far. I am at 3 waitlists (GW, Creighton, EVMS).
GW-first interview, really really nervous-
Creighton-I cant believe me they will put me on the witlist. I thought that was the best interview I had.
EVMS-Couldn't judge. I thought I was really screwed here.
I am waiting on UMD, NYMC and MCV, now.
NYMC-only 15min interview.
MCV-1 hr but I got no feedback.
U of Md- ran off crying after the faculty interview. He started off by telling me thatI had a weak handshake and later told me my MCATs are pathetic (27Q).He also told me I have no idea what medicine is. I have no idea what's going to happen at these three places. So, I agree with everybody that interviews are no predictors for the situation.
GW-first interview, really really nervous-
Creighton-I cant believe me they will put me on the witlist. I thought that was the best interview I had.
EVMS-Couldn't judge. I thought I was really screwed here.
I am waiting on UMD, NYMC and MCV, now.
NYMC-only 15min interview.
MCV-1 hr but I got no feedback.
U of Md- ran off crying after the faculty interview. He started off by telling me thatI had a weak handshake and later told me my MCATs are pathetic (27Q).He also told me I have no idea what medicine is. I have no idea what's going to happen at these three places. So, I agree with everybody that interviews are no predictors for the situation.
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ACtually I think it had to do with telling one interviewer that I might have a problem living in Milwaukee. I doubt it was the over qualified thing, because Scooby got in on the same interview.
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Gee, it seems like all of us who interviewed at Duke had GREAT interviews, huh? I was so confident that I would get accepted from the first round last week because both of my interviewers had seemed so happy with me. My faculty interviewer said, "If I had interviewed you four years from now, I would have offered you a residency on the spot!" and my student interviewer told me that I was one of the most impressive applicants he had ever seen and seemed in awe of every single one of my answers. I did hear at one point that Duke has a tendency to make its interviewees feel really good about their chances. I wish they wouldn't do that because I had waited anxiously for five months building up to last Friday and then nothing!! I still have hope for this Friday, though.
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