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What is a good schedule to follow for part 2 considering the exam is being given by the end of November beginning of December? What are some books, resources to use?
Im sure theres a pdf of pocket pods out there somewhere.does anyone know where we can get watkins not NOT 100 bucks? Or a mobile version?
Pretty nervous to be honest. Ive read through watkins and done all the bv questions twice. Hoping that will be enough to help me pass 🙏🏼How’s everyone feeling about Part II?
BV and the Prometric practice exams were pretty much no help/big waste of time. Practically no med/abx questions, sparse surgery questions, HEAVY biomechanics and HEAVY buzzword pathology/treatment that is not pertinent to our training whatsoever.
APMLE part 2 is a severely poor constructed money grab.
Doesn't really matter, you can start studying for part 3 now and if you fail part 2, you would be prepared to retake it in February. Just don't fail that one.Anyone else think they failed lol
thank you 🙂 that’s a good suggestionDoesn't really matter, you can start studying for part 3 now and if you fail part 2, you would be prepared to retake it in February. Just don't fail that one.
They don't want you get distracted by the results, I guess 😀I am curious as to why they could not have released scores sooner. Wasn’t that the whole reason why exams were moved to end of November, so the programs could know prior to interviews? We still have to wait until Jan 25 lol.
Side note. Very nervous
Still kinda strange moving the test date considering the pass rate is 99-100% for part 2 lol.I am curious as to why they could not have released scores sooner. Wasn’t that the whole reason why exams were moved to end of November, so the programs could know prior to interviews? We still have to wait until Jan 25 lol.
Side note. Very nervous
Still kinda strange moving the test date considering the pass rate is 99-100% for part 2 lol.
The CPME website under programmatic outcomes: Programmatic Outcomes | CPMEDo you know where the stats are showing 99%? That sounds like part 3 stats.
Part 2 is usually around 88-96%?
Oh cool. Thanks for the link.The CPME website under programmatic outcomes: Programmatic Outcomes | CPME
It's unclear if this reflects the overall or first-time pass rate.
It might also vary from year to year.
I agree with you on all those points. I was initially surprised by Temple's results too. However, the latest statistics as of December 1, 2023, indicate that Temple has achieved a 99% pass rate for part 2, which suggests that the earlier data might have been an outlier.Oh cool. Thanks for the link.
Weird how Temple has 92% and all other places are 99-100%.
But I think it's not first time pass rate, as the board part 1 numbers are too high for that. I know schools that have had 69-75% first time board part 1 rates within last couple years and those stats do not show it.
Wishing you the best of luck!Anxiously waiting………
Congratulations!! So happy for youWishing you the best of luck!
KSUCPM sent out emails with results for those who wanted them early. I was too anxious to wait for Prometric to upload them. Thankfully I passed. I hope you did too!
SameAnxiously waiting..
I honestly thought I failed tbh, I made a lot of silly errors. I’m sure the curve was heavy, don’t be anxious! It’ll all work out. Good luck!Hey, my school hasn’t emailed yet! Do you remember how many you may have gotten correct? I’m anxious as well
So based on belief...not fact....there was a heavy curve so those who failed are illiterate?! Not to discredit you or anything BUT that statement is ignorant and says a lot about youNot discrediting anyone’s effort BUT I believe there was a heavy curve to where if you did not pass it’s bc you’re illiterate.
CPME changed the reporting of Part 1 pass rates from 1st attempt to overall, also reaccredited an institution which had less than 70% Part 1 pass rate. There’s a recruitment “crisis” and admitted applicant stats are dropping consequently.So based on belief...not fact....there was a heavy curve so those who failed are illiterate?! Not to discredit you or anything BUT that statement is ignorant and says a lot about you
That's not a conclusion, it's a hypothesisCPME changed the reporting of Part 1 pass rates from 1st attempt to overall, also reaccredited an institution which had less than 70% Part 1 pass rate. There’s a recruitment “crisis” and admitted applicant stats are dropping consequently.
I’d say it’s a very fair conclusion to make that Part 2 was heavily curved in order for schools to inflate their pass rates and grad rates which aids in recruitment given the other curious changes made in the way CPME and the way schools have been presenting their data
No thoughts or concerns on the topic of our interaction? Strong work.That's not a conclusion, it's a hypothesis
I understand that perspective. People who actually had things going on in their lives shouldn’t be too critical of themselves bc life happens and they’re gonna give it their best the 2nd time! My statement was not intended to that group, which I assumed would be a given.The critique is not whether or not the test was curved, but that those who did not pass are illiterate. That is ad hominem and there is a strong likelihood that people who did fail browse these forums and can see your post. I am glad that you passed, but it’s important to be considerate to the people who did not, as there can be a multitude of reasons why they did not pass this one particular exam on one particular day.
Part 1 is the only one anyone fails....Passed. I’ve yet to hear of a classmate at my school that didn’t
Not discrediting anyone’s effort BUT I believe there was a heavy curve to where if you did not pass it’s bc you’re illiterate.
All the people first time passing part 2 vs. residents/attending saying applicants this year were worse than most years. Something isn’t adding up.
Where do you get your stats from? I know a school that just had an 80% pass rate for part 2, confirmed via dean.Part 2 and pt3 fail rate always has been <5% (and 90% of those still pass on retake).
It's very easy to see this stuff.Where do you get your stats from? I know a school that just had an 80% pass rate for part 2, confirmed via dean.
It's very easy to see this stuff.
APMLE themselves publishes pass rates from time to time (click the 'Fall 2020' or others from this link on their own website).
The pt1 and pt2 pass rates are also published by schools also as a CPME requirement (pt3 is not required as a student, so they just do 1 & 2 rate):
They all publish them ... (Western 114/114 on pt2 pass) ... (Barry shows 169/170 or 99.x% passed pt2 in the last few years) ... (DMU is 100% also) ... (even jolly old NYCPM managed 98% on pt2). Even Samuel Merritt publishes theirs (obscurely, buy you can find it eventually) because it's required to be posted, and the pt2 APMLE pass % are high (for them... a lot higher than their pt1 anyways).
...an 80% pass rate for part 2 is horrific. SMU isn't way above that mark in some years, but they are above. To say the overall pt2 is 80% is misinformation (and hearsay not really worth debating). Regardless, if you heard that through the grapevine, then they likely meant to say pt1 was 80% pass there, or were rounding down, or your info is a serious outlier... or just wrong.
Like most things podiatry education, APMLE is APMA/CPME controlled. Part 1 is a real test... pt2 and pt3 are very easy, very high pass rate, and basically formality tests that are cash grabs and to very loosely mirror the USMLE 3-part exams ("parity"). Barely anybody fails pt2 and pt3, so it's not really worth studying much unless one is a very lower end pod student and/or failed part 1 or pod school classes.
Why does APMLE itself newsletter (linked above) say that 99% pt3 and 88% pt1 of first-time takers passed?The dean told me directly today, it's not heresay.
I think people confuse first pass rate with ultimately pass rate.
Part 2 objectively has an 80% first pass rate at our school this year. By 2nd exam, I'm sure it will be over 90%, and by third time, it will probably be around 98-99%...which is the stats that are ultimately published.
Why does APMLE itself newsletter (linked above) say that 99% pt3 and 88% pt1 of first-time takers passed?
(pt2 typical pass rate first-time is much closer to the 99 than 88... but 80% for any would be pitiful for any part of the APMLE).
And say you go to Samuel Merritt... without saying you go to Samuel Merritt 🙂
I tried to ignore your comment but I can't. Please use critical thinking and read dr.Feli's linksI don't go to Samuel Meritt. But don't shoot the messenger, I'm just stating what the dean literally told me.
80% pass rate boards part 2.
The relevancy to my post?I tried to ignore your comment but I can't. Please use critical thinking and read dr.Feli's links
Do you know USMLE step 1 is much much harder than APMLE 1 and the passing rate for MD schools are still greater than 91-92% recently, before was 94-95% ?
Proves my point even more that this class has a weaker knowledge base than previous classesI don't go to Samuel Meritt. But don't shoot the messenger, I'm just stating what the dean literally told me.
80% pass rate boards part 2.