I’m sorry about your rejection. Do you mind telling me how it arrived? I’ve been waiting to hear from them assuming it will be a rejection bc they sent out interview invites so long ago but I haven’t received anything today. Ugh.
Me. I applied to two tracks
I haven't and I applied to the juvenile justice track but I imagine they may be rolling out invites/rejections on different days per track.
They sent a personalized email with the decision attached. I think they were sending out invites about a month ago. Thus, it wasn't a complete surprise.
Thank you for letting me know. That's a bummer. I'm sure mine is on its way if they were personalized.
I have a friend waiting on this one - if you feel comfortable answering, was it a personal or mass email?
I haven’t heard anything from them. Expecting a rejection email on 12/15.
Thank you for responding and sharing what you noticed/ heard at the interview. It actually helps to know that I am basically rejected at this point for not having an interview offer. Upsetting for sure, but I'd rather be upset than being hopeful and get even more disappointed later. Congratulations for being done with your interview, and wish you luck with match !!
I am not the original poster but I also received an invite to Eastern Colorado VA (general track), about an hour and a half after the original poster posted. The email had my name, so it seems personalized and like they are going out individually.
Sorry to hear that. I have not received any invites and I don’t even know why
I'm with you!!
I’m waiting on them as well.
Similar to what others have said, the majority of our practica at my university-based clinical PhD program are unpaid. There are a couple of paid ones, but they are rare. Our funding comes from being a teaching assistant, teaching fellow/instructor of record (after Master's), or research assistant if your advisor has grants.
Just to be clear- you all mean external practica, right? Like when you get hours at a hospital off campus or whatever and (usually) are supervised by a psychologist there? Students in my program and in the one I'm faculty in work in our training clinic for free under faculty supervision, but in sometimes 2nd year, definitely 3rd year + their funding usually comes from the contracts the program has with external agencies unless they want to teach a class or are on a faculty grant. Nobody has to teach or TA AND do 20 hours/week of clinical practicum (in addition to the training clinic).
For my PhD program in New England- Our typical load in our 4th and 5th years once we are finished with most classes is 15-20 hours of funded positions through TA, IOR, or research assistantship, 16-24 hours a week at an unpaid practicum/externship at a area hospital/clinic, + dissertation and other research activities.
Yeah, I did an unpaid 16-hr/week practica at the VA, taught two sections of an undergrad class, took one class, and did research in my lab.
Yep, for me it’s external and internal practica that are unpaid.
Whoa. I’m clearly in the wrong PsyD program...
Also got my rejection from Rush
I am glad we are discussing this. In our program, we pay school to get a practicum 🙈
The only personal info in the email was my name and tracks I applied to - hope this helps!
Same here - paying nearly 10k a semester and doing 20 hours of unpaid clinical work... plus research milestones required. The perks of an non-funded PhD program I guess.
This is wild to me. I believe you, and the posts on this thread show me that apparently my experience is not as universal as I thought. My sample is n = 2 programs, and I guess i could ask colleagues about their grad programs but I just assumed that people's GA funding in the advanced years of their clinical PhD programs were paid externships everywhere. For research-focused programs, how would you find time to meet research expectations while doing a GA and a volunteer 20 hours/week practicum??!
Great question. I'm at a clinical psych PhD program and I can't speak for others but I work ridiculous hours. We have to teach and/or TA 2 sections for funding unless we have external funding (like grants or fellowships) or our research mentors pay us. Then we take classes, do research , and have practica (ours are really flexible though, number of hours vary, and we're sometimes doing more than one at once). I end up working 6-7 days a week most weeks, and it's not uncommon to spend well over 8 hours a day and pull a lot of late nights (but less on weekends because I have kids).
I can relate to this too hard. At one point, I was RA-ing 20 hours a week, doing a 20 hour a week practicum, and taking 3 classes all at the same time... Not to mention quals and other research responsibilities. Needless to say, I was sleeping little and crying lots. Imagine my shock when a psyd intern at my practicum site told me that not only did she have full funding/financial aid at her school, but also zero research/TA or RA responsibilities.
I mean I expect people to work > 40 hours/week in grad school (this doesn't stop when you graduate if you go the academic route, at least based on my trajectory) but in my experience TAing or teaching a lab section was not that time consuming (I think I also only ever had one section, and my students now definitely only have one section) so I thought that was mostly research effort that was leading folks to burn the midnight oil. But if you have a real 20-hour GA that's a doozy.
In our program it varies so widely. My first semester teaching, I had a 200 person undergrad abnormal psych lecture and that only counted for one section so I had to be my own TA as my "second section". I did have another TA but it was still definitely at least 20 hours a week. I was also taking class of my own, doing research, 2 practica... In contrast, this semester I'm TAing for someone else where I only have to grade a few assignments for 50 students throughout the entire semester and I'm getting paid to be a clinician on an RCT... the workload is vastly different but the pay is the same.
Hi! I say this very sincerely... I have a strong reaction to the statement "I should be getting more research" from students and the inclination to tell them that they have it better than others. I am in a clinical phd program like this, and it has backfired and set the program back in a lot of ways. This is the type of mindset that myself and many rising academics I know are actively fighting against. It's toxic and is often counterproductive.
The earlier KKI posts seem to be related to the Behavioral Psychology/ Neuropsychology Program and not the newer, PMHP/Family Traumatic Stress Program. This is a separate program, not tracks.
