We don't rank applicants who we don't want coming to our program. These are individuals who we do not think have the training to succeed( sometimes applicants present themselves well in their essays, but it becomes clear from the interview that they do not have the clinical abilities to work with our patient population) or otherwise show bad judgment during the interview day (this has to be pretty outrageous behavior). Typically 1-2 applicants who interview are not ranked by my program each year (this is about 5% of those who interview).
Adult!
I know many people who have done BOP internships and then formal forensic fellowships and I am hoping to follow a similar path myself. That said, all of those folks did forensic evaluation heavy tracks at BOP sites as opposed to strictly correctional/RDAP, so I would say it depends what tracks you are ranking to some extent.
Ah, I'm not familiar with Adult but I think @WisNeuro posted some sites earlier on the thread related to adult neuro training. Sorry I couldn't be any help!
Would sites inform applicants who interviewed if they are no longer under consideration? That would be a common courtesy, as it would help the applicant make his or her decision about ranking.
How much contact would you have with/how much does training rely on the TD? If they aren’t someone you’ll have a lot of direct contact or supervision with and you liked the others, maybe it wouldn’t be too much of a drawback?
I've never heard of this happening and it sucks to not know in advance. However, if sites and applicants are both ranking according to their true preferences, even if your top site doesn't rank you (and vice versa), the algorithm would work through the rest of your options.
For me, it would really depend on the nature of the negative feedback. If it's limited to lack of warmth but the TD is still competent, fair, and responsive, I probably wouldn't put too much weight on it. But if they are having an outsized negative impact on the training year or negatively impacting people's future plans/success, that's a whole different story.
We do not. I know of no program that informs applicants of decision not to rank.
I was told that there isn’t really a way to avoid the TD. Apologies for being ambiguous, but I was basically told that the individual has a history of targeting the interns. Additionally, all of them said that the experiences were great but the TD significantly impacted the overall internship year. Complaints have been filed against the TD but nothing has been done as he is still in the position.
Do you have any idea about whether you would rather have to deal with this toxic TD for your internship year or go through the process again next year? That could affect if you rank this site or no sites and go to phase 2. I think different people are affected to different extents by this sort of thing.
Yes!!! I’m so nervous!Anyone else taking your last looks at the rank list?!
So I have gone back and forth about this. I’ve dealt with a ton of toxic professionals in different areas. However, I believe that support is extremely important for internship. It’s awful because everything else about the site is perfect except for the TD.
Yes!
I don't think it would -- I think, in theory, an applicant could rank every site in the APPIC directory and it wouldn't impact the outcome of the match (e.g., the applicant would still rank at the first site on their list that also ranked the applicant high enough to match). If a site has one position and that position is filled by someone else, then that site may as well have not ranked you. I think the logic of ranking our true preferences still holds true in this scenario.
Glad I am not the only one that experienced this...!
Definitely! You are not alone 🙂 Finding myself stuck on the middle tier of my rank. I genuinely don't know if I'd rather be at site 7 versus 8 so it comes to splitting hairs at this point. Wishing you luck in the match!
Ugh the infomercial flashback I did not want to have! Thanks a lot 🤣
13 days!
I was the one who asked! It’s on page 84
Mainly that there are less sites/spots for those training experiences relative to the high number of applicants. One of my sites that has 8 positions across multiple tracks mentioned that of the ~180 applicants, 70 were for the neuro track, and only 15 of which were invited to interview.
Yes! Working on writing up my results section and manuscript revise and resubmit. The weeks are flying by almost too quickly!
With maybe two hours of sleep behind me, in my room, alone. My partner will likely be awake (LDR) awaiting my call. My parents will likely be asleep. I will see the email notification on my iPhone and I will nervously scroll centimeter by centimeter.
My supervisor said we’re expected to show up/see clients that day... so I guess opening it in between clients and hoping I can still function after? 🥲
Unsolicited suggestion, but I would reserve 30 minutes after you plan to check your email. Maybe schedule some "notes" time. That way you have some time to celebrate or mourn at your leisure.
This is a great idea, I bet it’ll just help to have a concrete plan like that too. My first client is 9am EST so fingers crossed they send the notifications early!! Thanks for the advice 🙂
Same, I had a coworker mention today “omg it’s come up fast!” And I was like this is the slowest 2 weeks of my life 😩
Couldn't agree more!!!
Since I'm west coast, it will arrive at about the time I roll out of bed to prep for my lab meeting. Planning to spend the evening digitally celebrating with friends and family.
My program typically cancels the 1 class that’s held on Fridays for Match Day. Friday isn’t a clinical day for me but if it was I would’ve requested off months ago. I didn’t realize we’d be getting emails a couple hours before 10am, so my partner and I had planned to make a nice breakfast while I waited. Now, I’ll roll over and the email will already be in my inbox! (I don’t get out of bed before like 9 unless I really have to).
