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Have you stopped watching TV? playing video games? and really you probably shouldn't be on the computer for too long either.... you are straining your eyes........
Since you strive to save eyes... I would think you would be against putting any strain on your eyes....
and to answer your question... I am a fruitarian, since fruits have feelings - I only eat things that have actually fallen off a tree or bush - that are, in fact, dead already.
Interesting, so it doesn't bother you that in several countries people eat dogs, cats, horses as delicacies. Aren't you people all pro animal rights and such? I thought this field would have the most empathetic people towards animals. Animals are not to be harmed for human taste buds, you know that sort of thing.
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Hmmmmm.... perhaps you should go back to optometry.... and worry about eye rights....
and also there is a major difference between animal rights and animal welfare... look it up...
It doesn't bother me at all, actually (may not be popular opinion here). If an animal is bred for food, I have no problem with them being used for food.
And no, some vets are pro animal rights, but most are pro animal welfare. They are different, do your research.
Strictly speaking, the only veterinarians who even come close to having careers compatible with an animal rights viewpoint are those involved in extremely noninvasive observation-based free-ranging wildlife work of some kind. And you can do that stuff with a Ph.D., realistically.
Vegan for five years 😍 but that is completely separate from my veterinary aspirations.
I love me a good medium rare steak. And burgers, and pork chops, and bacon, and now I'm hungry again. Thanks.
No. I think if animals eat other animals, then we can eat animals, too, as long as they are treated right before and during slaughter. I wanna be a food animal vet to help with just that.
We have horse meat in Germany. I don't like it but it doesn't bother me that other people eat it. It also doesn't bother me when people eat cats or dogs as long as they weren't hurt before or during preparation (which in some countries they are being hurt and that's where my problem lies with it).
We have horse meat in Germany. I don't like it but it doesn't bother me that other people eat it. It also doesn't bother me when people eat cats or dogs as long as they weren't hurt before or during preparation (which in some countries they are being hurt and that's where my problem lies with it).
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So true.
I was totally going to go off on that. Thank you for keeping me sane.
Same here. You are an evil person for mentioning such delicacies.
Don't care about the terms or useless definitions, if animal welfare or whatever you want to call it doesn't promote animals not being slaughtered for food then its a useless welfare. Just a excuse to eat animals for pleasure.
I am vegetarian and there are many vegetarians and even a few vegans in my class. I do think there are a higher percentage of vegetarians among the vet students I know than among the general population (then again, you could say that about Philadelphia in general, so I won't assume all vet schools have the same demographics).
That said, I think the phrasing of your questions is inflammatory and poorly thought out, and that while people on this section of the forum are very nice and willing to explain our field, you would get a better response if you ask questions differently.
You should also think about the fact that ALL medical fields, including vet med, including optometry, are built on the foundation of animal research and profit from the products of animal research, so therefore it would be rather hypocritical to have a true animal rights perspective as a veterinarian (by the way, check out animal rights versus animal welfare at the links below).
http://www.avma.org/issues/animal_welfare/default.asp
http://www.ncraoa.com/AR_AW_WhatYouShouldKnow.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/animal-welfare-vs-animal-rights-understanding-the-difference
That said, I think the phrasing of your questions is inflammatory and poorly thought out, and that while people on this section of the forum are very nice and willing to explain our field, you would get a better response if you ask questions differently.
You should also think about the fact that ALL medical fields, including vet med, including optometry, are built on the foundation of animal research and profit from the products of animal research, so therefore it would be rather hypocritical to have a true animal rights perspective as a veterinarian (by the way, check out animal rights versus animal welfare at the links below).
http://www.avma.org/issues/animal_welfare/default.asp
http://www.ncraoa.com/AR_AW_WhatYouShouldKnow.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/animal-welfare-vs-animal-rights-understanding-the-difference
You are thinking of animal rights, which also says that animals shouldn't be kept as pets. Think about that as you cuddle with your animal friends.
I've noticed you don't care for "useless definitions". Eating animals for me isn't just for pleasure. I derive caloric value and nutrients from them, too. Especially since I tend to be slightly anemic and the taste of iron supplements makes me want to vomit.
Iron supplements do make me vomit. Had to take them for a few months last year...
even the enteric coated ones. Bleh. Nausea is no fun. took me a while to figure it out, too.
Then change these rights or welfare. Take out animals can be used as a food for pleasure from one these animal welfare principles.
Are you even speaking English here... This makes no sense
I was a mess last year so I think it was the mix of the iron supplements and the underlying condition compounding together to make me so sick.
I wasn't sure if my English knowledge just wasn't good enough to comprehend, but apparently it doesn't make sense to others either. I feel better now.
👍 I think this guy is just an animal rights nut and wants us all to give up meat which I will never do. I tried to be a vegetarian in 3rd grade. I made it a whole 2 days.
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Do your research on the difference first, then we'll continue to respond.
Yes because we, as vet students, have the ability to do so. 😕 Sorry if you were expecting everyone in this thread to have the same views as you.
"The responsible use of animals for human purposes, such as companionship, food, recreation, work, education, exhibition, and research conducted for the benefit of both humans and animals, is consistent with the Veterinarian's Oath."
That should be removed.
Why should that be removed?
State your reasoning. Preferably after you have read up on animal welfare versus rights.
Just because YOU don't think animals should be food doesn't me WE have to agree. In fact, WE ensure that meat is safe to eat (as a profession).
I am pretty sure no one wants to hear your opinion on what should or should not be in our oath.
No, it should not. That is a GOOD thing for veterinarians to do.
It is delicious. Why would you take it out?
I'm assuming you eat vegetables. Do you not care about their welfare and rights?
So you are not ok with animals being used for food... which we as humans need to nourish our bodies, but you are ok with animals being used for research which your own future career employs on chimpanzees and apes - performing tests on their eyes which are often very unpleasant.......
hmmmmm.......
stop talking out your ass......🙄
If there was no other source of food then it would be fine. But there are other alternatives to eating just animals.
You're right. I eat animals AND fruit AND veggies. Problem solved.
Yes, but we don't utilize those sources as well in regards to obtaining minerals, vitamins, etc. And you also have to eat larger quantities.
I do definitely agree that the way food animals are treated need to be improved though.
Harvesting of fruits and vegetables don't require the plant to be killed, meat does.
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Well technically you could amputate a turkey leg without killing the animal....
mmmmmm turkey leg.
That depends on the vegetable, doesn't it? Some veggies are killed to be eaten.
Meat protein is better for certain things.
Personally, I don't care if you want to eat no meat and think it is wrong. I do mind that you are judging me and those in my profession for eating meat.
You killed the apples?? You ripped the seed bearing uterus off the tree!! That poor apple tree put a lot of energy into that apple, to regenerate, to continue the generation of apple trees and then you come along and take away all its hard work... How dare you. And don't get me started on carrots... poor roots.
Do you realize that just because you remove that, doesn't mean people stop eating meat? It just means that people eat unsafe meat. So I don't see your point.
And I think that opinion is ok. There are ways to eat meat without getting it from factory farms.
Hunting for example. I don't like hunting just for fun or because you want deer antlers. But I don't mind hunting if you know how to quickly kill the animal and then use it for food and other things.
