Army National Guard's new Med student program details.

[iatrosB]

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Iatros, what makes you say you can't take loan repayment in residency? From what I have read, I haven't seen anything saying that? I agree you cannot take loan payback while in school.

My recruiter said you couldn't. I believe the regulation states that you basically have to have a deployable MOS, which we don't in residency.

Another thing to think about is that you have to have a good "retirement" year to qualify for HPLR...which may be hard in residency.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong. I'd love to take STRAP and HPLR concurrently in residency.

 

[notdeadyet]

Another thing to think about is that you have to have a good "retirement" year to qualify for HPLR...which may be hard in residency.

You can have good "retirement" years in residency without much problem if you're drilling.

You need 60 points for a good retirement year. You get 15 just for being in the Guard. You get 4 points each drill weekend. So if you drill 11 months, you've made your good retirement year. You also get points for CME, which shouldn't be hard to arrange during residency.

As for the rest of it, I'd read long and hard about concurrent payback. That always gets my antennae wiggling...

 

[notdeadyet]

By the way, has anyone successfully used the $2,500 annual CME allowance while in medical school? I'd heard that some have, but the only documentation I've been able to find made it sound like you needed to have completed OBLC, be in MC or MSC in a few MOS's (none of which were med student), and be on the DOD list as licensed.

 

[EMH]

By the way, has anyone successfully used the $2,500 annual CME allowance while in medical school? I'd heard that some have, but the only documentation I've been able to find made it sound like you needed to have completed OBLC, be in MC or MSC in a few MOS's (none of which were med student), and be on the DOD list as licensed.

I had it approved for a trip in June but had to cancel since I would up having to move that week.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

I dunno how it works in the RC, i.e. not IRR, but it seemed like when I was on IRR you got 1/4 of the pts. needed for a good year automatically, and something I regret not doing is taking ACCP, the correspondence course program, courses, to fill out the bulk of the rest so that I could have good years that would put me 4 years closer to retirement. Live and learn.

I dunno if such a beast would help with getting good years as a resident, but in today's Army, with AKO what it is, there has to something like that out there. Because drilling 11 months out of the year sounds simple enough, and might even be possible if you go into something like derm, but for those of us who can only stand people when they are asleep and cut open, we are already going to use up all of our vacation, favors, and relationships with co-workers/faculty/the dept. just to make it to AT. And it sucks, but that is going to severely limit the types of units I will be able to work in, until I get out of residency.

 

[DeadCactus]

This may be somewhere in this monster of a thread, but I hope you'll excuse me for not finding it.

What documents do you need for entire application process?

I've got:

Driver's License
Social Security Card
Birth Certificate
Diploma
Transcripts
Evaluation Forms
Verification of Enrollment from the Medical School Registrar

Any other documents I should gather up?

 

[DeadCactus]

Also, does anyone have a rather firm answer on whether you're allowed to interrupt medical school to do a research year or pursue a graduate degree if in the Guard/ASR program?

 

[notdeadyet]

I dunno how it works in the RC, i.e. not IRR, but it seemed like when I was on IRR you got 1/4 of the pts. needed for a good year automatically,

Yep. As mentioned above, you get 15 of the 60 needed points just by being in drilling status in the Guard.

I dunno if such a beast would help with getting good years as a resident, but in today's Army, with AKO what it is, there has to something like that out there.

Yep. There's plenty of correspondence courses out there. You get one retirement point for about every three hours of online training. It's just hard to squeeze in outside courses for many of us.

Because drilling 11 months out of the year sounds simple enough, and might even be possible if you go into something like derm, but for those of us who can only stand people when they are asleep and cut open, we are already going to use up all of our vacation, favors, and relationships with co-workers/faculty/the dept. just to make it to AT.

If you carefully choose the right unit, you should be fine with hopefully drilling as little as one weekend every three months. The only funky think about residency is that if you're out at some program in the sticks, the "right unit" may include a bit of travel time.

 

[notdeadyet]

This may be somewhere in this monster of a thread, but I hope you'll excuse me for not finding it.

What documents do you need for entire application process?

I've got:

Driver's License
Social Security Card
Birth Certificate
Diploma
Transcripts
Evaluation Forms
Verification of Enrollment from the Medical School Registrar

Any other documents I should gather up?

You'll also need a copy of your resume.

And keep in mind that for most recruiters, those transcripts need to be official, sealed copies sent directly to them (like if you were applying to college), not copies sent to you.

 

[koojo]

Wait aren't all states drilling states? Some don't make you drill at all?

No not all. WV isn't.

 

[punkiedad]

got my official ASR Orders to begin 7/1 on Tuesday. I notice they list only one year on them. I am guessing that is how everyone's look as well? One year ata time and then hope funding doesnt get cut?

 

[koojo]

got my official ASR Orders to begin 7/1 on Tuesday. I notice they list only one year on them. I am guessing that is how everyone's look as well? One year ata time and then hope funding doesnt get cut?

Nice! Good for you. Ya orders are usually given for one year at a time. I'm hoping to have mine shortly.

 

[iatrosB]

got my official ASR Orders to begin 7/1 on Tuesday. I notice they list only one year on them. I am guessing that is how everyone's look as well? One year ata time and then hope funding doesnt get cut?

👍 Maybe you got my old funds

It is year-to-year because that's how ADSW orders are cut for fiscal years. I think you'll be fine. Good luck

 

[AlphaPower]

Anyone know what number the waitlist is up to? I talked to my recruiter and he said if you're on the waitlist, and the funding for ASR is cut, then you're stuck in the guard with whatever incentives you signed up for in your form 1252. Just thought I'd post that because there were a bunch of questions about it in earlier posts.

 

[ohio23]

Anyone know what number the waitlist is up to? I talked to my recruiter and he said if you're on the waitlist, and the funding for ASR is cut, then you're stuck in the guard with whatever incentives you signed up for in your form 1252. Just thought I'd post that because there were a bunch of questions about it in earlier posts.

Rumor has it 48 or so are on the list... but again that's just the rumor I heard.

 

[superiordoc]

Any word on how many spots have turned over from graduating students to waitlist folks? It seems there were a few set to have graduated in May and several more in June.

 

[DeadCactus]

Rumor mill:
It appears that about 40 spots will open up next fiscal year as people graduate. The hope of the 200 new spots opening up looks dim. A memo will hopefully go out in a week or two and give some solid answers. From a conversaton with my recruiter today.

So my packet is waiting for the next federal board. I'm basically set to go through the pipeline and only waiting on boards. Given the last waiting list number I heard and the likely number of spots, unless the 200 new spots come though it's unlikely I'll be getting in and I'm not sure I'm willing to sign up for a waitlist with only a hope that the ASR program holds out.

Is there much benefit to just being in the guard as a medical student? What are the other programs available in the guard?

 

[HolyGrail]

I'm very interested in this program. I live in Wisconsin, specifically Madison. Who would I get in touch with to see what this is all about and get more information from a recruiter?

 

[CoyoteDoc]

Of the 48 or so people on the waitlist, does anyone know how many are sworn in? I was told that If I swear in I will be moved up on the waitlist above anyone who has not yet done so. I was also told that if I swear in and ASR is cut I will not have any obligation to stay in the guard. This obviously conflicts with info posted earlier. Anyone else hear one way or another?

 

[AlphaPower]

Of the 48 or so people on the waitlist, does anyone know how many are sworn in? I was told that If I swear in I will be moved up on the waitlist above anyone who has not yet done so. I was also told that if I swear in and ASR is cut I will not have any obligation to stay in the guard. This obviously conflicts with info posted earlier. Anyone else hear one way or another?

Unless you can point to a piece of paper that says what your recruiter said, it's not true. Once you swear in, you're in the guard, and if ASR is cut, you're still in the guard. Unless you signed up for MSSDP + STRAP for your incentives, then you're not even protected from deployment in med school I don't believe. MSSDP incurs an 8 year MSO after med school, and it's not concurrent like ASR, so you'll owe 4 more years after residency is over (assuming 4 yrs med school, 4 yrs residency). And if you have STRAP, you owe even more years. At that point, it's a toss up between the guard and doing HPSP with the Air Force in my opinion. At least the AF HPSP promises not to interrupt your residency.

 

[tech2doc]

Unless you can point to a piece of paper that says what your recruiter said, it's not true. Once you swear in, you're in the guard, and if ASR is cut, you're still in the guard. Unless you signed up for MSSDP + STRAP for your incentives, then you're not even protected from deployment in med school I don't believe. MSSDP incurs an 8 year MSO after med school, and it's not concurrent like ASR, so you'll owe 4 more years after residency is over (assuming 4 yrs med school, 4 yrs residency). And if you have STRAP, you owe even more years. At that point, it's a toss up between the guard and doing HPSP with the Air Force in my opinion. At least the AF HPSP promises not to interrupt your residency.

I don't know how you couldn't be protected from deployment while in medical school unless you were in the national guard prior to entering medical school and are fully trained in another MOS. If you direct commission with an MOS of 00E67, you are an untrained student officer in the medical service corps even after you've completed OBLC. What would you do if you deployed?

And also, there's a big difference between doing HPSP and STRAP via the guard. With HPSP, you will live and work on a military base somewhere. With STRAP, yeah it will extend your MSO, but it will still be in the guard where you're just a part-time soldier.

 

[DeadCactus]

Is it just me or does the existence of ASR make it hard to accept MDSSP/STRAP? I've gotten really excited about joining the Guard and really want to do it in and of itself, but damn. Kind of hard to sign up for twice the commitment and half the benefits when it was an issue of getting in line fast enough. It's like the military had a Black Friday sale...


Anyway, can you take MDSSP for one year in hopes of getting into ASR the next year? Any idea how commitment works out then?

 

[jfitzpat]

Anyway, can you take MDSSP for one year in hopes of getting into ASR the next year? Any idea how commitment works out then?

Because of the way that they calculate MDSSP (backwards from your graduation date), you cannot take it for a year and then get on ASR. If you were only taking a year of MDSSP, they would calculate a year back from your graduation date and give you MDSSP for that year.

 

[AlphaPower]

I don't know how you couldn't be protected from deployment while in medical school unless you were in the national guard prior to entering medical school and are fully trained in another MOS. If you direct commission with an MOS of 00E67, you are an untrained student officer in the medical service corps even after you've completed OBLC. What would you do if you deployed?

The way I understand it, the only 2 programs that explicitly protect you from deployment during med school for the guard are ASR and MSSDP. I read somewhere in this thread that people have actually been pulled out of med school to deploy otherwise.

 

[whosmk]

i just graduated from undergrad, and my paperworks are almost done for july board. however reading off of this forum makes me to feel like applying for 3 yr army HPSP at this point (i'm going to dental school) instead of waiting for 200 seats to open up. can i begin my application with army in addition to ASR app? or is ASR application process gonna stop once I apply for HPSP? two recruiters in each division tells me different things, so please let me know 🙂

 

[tech2doc]

The way I understand it, the only 2 programs that explicitly protect you from deployment during med school for the guard are ASR and MSSDP. I read somewhere in this thread that people have actually been pulled out of med school to deploy otherwise.

Those people probably were in the national guard before medical school. I'm pretty sure 00E67, which is what you're commissioned as, is an undeployable MOS. Just think about it, where would the military put a student officer who hasn't been really trained to do anything?

 

[AlphaPower]

Those people probably were in the national guard before medical school. I'm pretty sure 00E67, which is what you're commissioned as, is an undeployable MOS. Just think about it, where would the military put a student officer who hasn't been really trained to do anything?

Believe me, I want to agree with you. But can you point to the actual policy? This is a HUGE thing that I wouldn't make up my mind on just based on what people say. Premeds go to trips in Honduras all the time. You don't need a MD to learn to do basic things. My recruiter told me that when I drill, I would help take care of soldiers, with stuff like broken legs and whatever, obviously under the supervision of someone who knows what they're doing. Still, I would be doing health related stuff, and I don't see why the military can't have you do that during deployment as a 00E67.

 

[koojo]

I don't know how you couldn't be protected from deployment while in medical school unless you were in the national guard prior to entering medical school and are fully trained in another MOS. If you direct commission with an MOS of 00E67, you are an untrained student officer in the medical service corps even after you've completed OBLC. What would you do if you deployed?

And also, there's a big difference between doing HPSP and STRAP via the guard. With HPSP, you will live and work on a military base somewhere. With STRAP, yeah it will extend your MSO, but it will still be in the guard where you're just a part-time soldier.

Even if you were prior service with an MOS (like I was) it doesn't matter. Once you commission your old MOS goes out the window and is replaced by the 00E67 one. They don't look to the past.

Believe me, I want to agree with you. But can you point to the actual policy? This is a HUGE thing that I wouldn't make up my mind on just based on what people say. Premeds go to trips in Honduras all the time. You don't need a MD to learn to do basic things. My recruiter told me that when I drill, I would help take care of soldiers, with stuff like broken legs and whatever, obviously under the supervision of someone who knows what they're doing. Still, I would be doing health related stuff, and I don't see why the military can't have you do that during deployment as a 00E67.

The military works on strict regulations. You cannot be deployed is you're not MOS-qualified. 00E67 is a student MOS and not a physician one, so you cannot technically get deployed.


Today I was officially transferred to the WV Guard. They are currently working on my ADOS packet and I hope to have my ASR orders soon. For those who don't know, I've had my ASR control number for a few months, but I had to wait until I was officially transferred from the VT Guard to the WV Guard before WV could give me ASR orders.

 

[eflix]

congrats koojo!!!

Also, as a note to punkiedad - I was finally able to log into mypay and get my first LES (pay stub) from my first drill recently - it seems they email you a temporary PIN to your AKO account after you get your first stub.

 

[koojo]

Here are the dates for OBLC (officer basic leadership course) for 2010:

22 Jan 2010 - 16 Feb 2010
10 Apr 2010 - 04 May 2010
20 Aug 2010 - 14 Sep 2010

I was really hoping there would be one from June-July so I could go between first and second year of med school, but so far there isn't. They might add another date, we'll see.

 

[punkiedad]

congrats koojo!!!

Also, as a note to punkiedad - I was finally able to log into mypay and get my first LES (pay stub) from my first drill recently - it seems they email you a temporary PIN to your AKO account after you get your first stub.

KJ--Congrats😀🙂👍 And thanks for posting the dates. Looks like OBLC might not be in my immidiate future either.

eflix. Glad to hear everything wrked out for you. I still have trouble logging on occasionally. I actually got my first LES and is was messed up. I had to call around. They never input my W4 so it has me listed as single with no dep. so my first drill check was way short......They should have like a book of FAQs when you get commissioned. I feel bad still bothering my recruiter with questions.....she should have hamded the baton a while ago.

ALL---couple of updates. Apparently there are meeting going on now regarding ASR. My recruiter said they were asked to bring a few people's names from the waiting list just in case? I don't know what it means?? But it sounds like they might have been hoping for movement.

Additionally, the ASR for residents rumor is just that..RUMOR. It is also FALSE. My recruiter asked the questions and no one even heard about it and they all got a good laugh, so no ASR for residents.

 

[notdeadyet]

can i begin my application with army in addition to ASR app? or is ASR application process gonna stop once I apply for HPSP? two recruiters in each division tells me different things, so please let me know 🙂

You can definitely get things moving for two different programs. Your application at one stops when you sign up for the other.

 

[notdeadyet]

I'm pretty sure 00E67, which is what you're commissioned as, is an undeployable MOS.

The military works on strict regulations. You cannot be deployed is you're not MOS-qualified. 00E67 is a student MOS and not a physician one, so you cannot technically get deployed.

I agree with AlphaPower on this one. Relying on logic and common sense when it comes to military policy is bad juju. Asking to have your non-deployable status in writing is a good idea.

 

[notdeadyet]

Here are the dates for OBLC (officer basic leadership course) for 2010:

22 Jan 2010 - 16 Feb 2010
10 Apr 2010 - 04 May 2010
20 Aug 2010 - 14 Sep 2010

I was really hoping there would be one from June-July so I could go between first and second year of med school, but so far there isn't. They might add another date, we'll see.

That's odd. In 2008 and 2009 they had an April/May, Jun/Jul and Aug/Sept course. Weird.

Since there's been an uptick in the number of PAs/student docs signing up due to ASR, and many of them are on a traditional academic schedule, maybe they'll add back the summer date. I'd keep my eyes on it and try to jump when it opens, koojo. Hope you like the heat...

 

[notdeadyet]

For potential applicants out there, when trying to schedule ASR and OBLC, keep in mind that your options are almost always going to be:

- Before starting med school
- Summer between M1 and M2 (if the two calendars align)
- Third year elective
- Fourth year elective

Between second and third year looks like a great time, but it should be protected for Step 1 study. And I'd strongly urge you to NOT consider doing both. Even if you have the time, after Step 1, you're going to be spent and any rest time you can secure should be used to recharge for third year, which is an animal.

You need to speak with your school about the last two options. Whether or not they'll allow you to use OBLC as an elective will vary a lot by school. At mine, for instance, OBLC is considered a "non-patient facing" endeavor, so it comes out of a bank of time used for vacation. Do not plan on your school allowing you to use time reserved for traditional electives unless you get permission first.

 

[notdeadyet]

ALL---couple of updates. Apparently there are meeting going on now regarding ASR. My recruiter said they were asked to bring a few people's names from the waiting list just in case? I don't know what it means?? But it sounds like they might have been hoping for movement.

Just as a reminder for potential applicants, folks should keep in mind that this thread is a bunch of ASR people kicking ideas, thoughts, and rumors around. Nothing read on here should be construed as policy until you get it from AMEDD in writing.

As of now, things are going according to the plan that was communicated to all of us originally. Which is this: There are 200 seats each year. The year ends on September 30th. When the seats are all filled, folks need to wait for the next year for new seats.

For right now, the 200 seats for the year filled as of a few months ago and folks are waiting for new seats to open up for October 1st as planned. The only difference between this year and last year is that this year the seats filled up in spring.

Right now we have the following in the rumor mill (let me know if I've forgotten any):

1. The 200 spots are not opening up in October and ASR is going to be scrapped
2. The 200 spots are not opening up and new seats are only opening up as people graduate from the program
3. The ASR program is expanding to open up more than 200 seats in October
4. The ASR program is expanding to include residents
5. The ASR program is expanding to include nurses

Many of us have heard one of the above five as being gospel and many of us have heard one of the same five as being complete bunk.

Anyone can choose to believe one of the above five, but until we get something in writing from AMEDD, I think it's only fair to potential applicants to remind them that the above five are all just rumors right now, regardless of what a particular favorite recruiter has told us.

If something different from the original plan is distributed in writing by AMEDD, please post it as it would be useful to see. Otherwise, it's probably wise to remember the old adage that you don't worry about your army when it complains, you worry when it doesn't, and recruiters aren't exempt from this.

Now back to your regular programming...

 

[koojo]

That's odd. In 2008 and 2009 they had an April/May, Jun/Jul and Aug/Sept course. Weird.

Since there's been an uptick in the number of PAs/student docs signing up due to ASR, and many of them are on a traditional academic schedule, maybe they'll add back the summer date. I'd keep my eyes on it and try to jump when it opens, koojo. Hope you like the heat...

I've spent 5 months at Fort Sam Houston, TX in the dead of summer before, so I know all about that heat lol

 

[punkiedad]

If something different from the original plan is distributed in writing by AMEDD, please post it as it would be useful to see. Otherwise, it's probably wise to remember the old adage that you don't worry about your army when it complains, you worry when it doesn't, and recruiters aren't exempt from this.

Now back to your regular programming...

Was just trying to give an update as I had heard, but I see your point. It is a fine line between rumor mongering and sharing info. Point well taken👍

 

[notdeadyet]

Was just trying to give an update as I had heard, but I see your point. It is a fine line between rumor mongering and sharing info. Point well taken👍

Info like the stuff you mentioned is really useful. My post was mostly intended for those new to the thread. For those of us in ASR, we all get that we're mentioning stuff we think and hear, but I've gotten PMs from folks who have mistaken it as gospel ("I heard that ____"). I just thought it was worth reminding those new to the thread that we're just having talk around the watercooler here.

 

[eflix]

Just a heads up - slots may still be open for the OBC this summer starting in a few days. My unit rep told me that she just put someone in last week, and would "likely" get mine in. So for those in ASR who hadn't made plans, or they are flexible like mine were, it might be worth trying for.

 

[koojo]

Hmm that's interesting...I was told all the slots were filled already for this year's OBLC..unless they recently had some drop outs

 

[tsbuqh]

I had not planned to do AT this year, but since my ASR start date is an unknown I am thinking I might need it now.

Does anyone know what kind of AT you would do as an 00E67? Is anyone else on the waiting list / drilling doing AT?

 

[iatrosB]

I had not planned to do AT this year, but since my ASR start date is an unknown I am thinking I might need it now.

Does anyone know what kind of AT you would do as an 00E67? Is anyone else on the waiting list / drilling doing AT?

I know my unit told me I didn't have to do AT...they probably knew I'd just be in the way lol

 

[eflix]

I just finished my AT. It was actually quite a bit of fun, but the AT that you'll do likely depends what unit you're in.

My unit was providing medical support to an infantry brigade, so we ran sick call for them for four hours a day from 0700-1100. I was assigned a physician mentor, saw patients, performed prelim examinations and assessments to see how I'd do them by myself. Then the doc would do it to show me what I might've missed, confirm what I did, or teach me new techniques. My background is as an EMT (and starting M1 this fall) so this was great practice/learning. In addition, there were courses such as combat life certification classes (learn IV's/pneumothorax decompressions which were new for me), land navigation, and humvee rollovers in the afternoon. PT was usually at 1600 and we ran for half an hour or so or worked out - this was actually optional, but I enjoy PT so i did it (as did most of the unit). Often had a BBQ after (our OIC provided the food/drinks). We also had several afternoons off for free time - we went out and miniature golfed, went to a state park nearby, etc.

Great experience - ours ended slightly early and we still get paid for the whole time. Get paid to learn a lot and exercise, meet new people, and came back home with a tan. Great introduction to the guard for me since I'm new to all of this.

 

[koojo]

I just finished my AT. It was actually quite a bit of fun, but the AT that you'll do likely depends what unit you're in.

My unit was providing medical support to an infantry brigade, so we ran sick call for them for four hours a day from 0700-1100. I was assigned a physician mentor, saw patients, performed prelim examinations and assessments to see how I'd do them by myself. Then the doc would do it to show me what I might've missed, confirm what I did, or teach me new techniques. My background is as an EMT (and starting M1 this fall) so this was great practice/learning. In addition, there were courses such as combat life certification classes (learn IV's/pneumothorax decompressions which were new for me), land navigation, and humvee rollovers in the afternoon. PT was usually at 1600 and we ran for half an hour or so or worked out - this was actually optional, but I enjoy PT so i did it (as did most of the unit). Often had a BBQ after (our OIC provided the food/drinks). We also had several afternoons off for free time - we went out and miniature golfed, went to a state park nearby, etc.

Great experience - ours ended slightly early and we still get paid for the whole time. Get paid to learn a lot and exercise, meet new people, and came back home with a tan. Great introduction to the guard for me since I'm new to all of this.

Wow you guys played golf during AT? I've gone to about 5-6 AT's and our days were packed full of training. We never had an afternoon off unless it was the last day. Last day we usually had a BBQ or something. Which unit are you with?

 

[eflix]

koojo, PM'ed you with my unit info. what training have you usually done during AT. maybe we're a little bit more relaxed because we're a medical unit?

We had an unusually low number of soldiers we had to take care of at training with sick call this year because many were deployed, so that was part of us having free time too.

i heard many of the other people in my unit say this was the easiest AT they've had so far - so this might be out of the ordinary, but i have to say it was pretty fun.

 

[koojo]

koojo, PM'ed you with my unit info. what training have you usually done during AT. maybe we're a little bit more relaxed because we're a medical unit?

We had an unusually low number of soldiers we had to take care of at training with sick call this year because many were deployed, so that was part of us having free time too.

i heard many of the other people in my unit say this was the easiest AT they've had so far - so this might be out of the ordinary, but i have to say it was pretty fun.

I haven't done an AT as a 2LT yet, but have from ranks private first class through staff sergeant. A couple years ago my division became a Mountain division so we've done a lot of rock climbing (30-60ft) and repelling (60-130ft cliffs) as well as a lot of rope work (knots, etc). Then there's the usual land navigation (on foot and also vehicles), ambush tactics, setting up perimeters, gunfighter, hand-to-hand combat, medical training, etc, etc. Wake up was at 0500, then personal time/cleaning barracks from 0500-0630 or so, and then breakfast. Day began at 0800 and usually ended around 1700. We had MRE's for lunch. Dinner chow was around 1800 or 1830. After that you had free time. We also had a four day FTX (field training exercise) where we had to set up a forward operating base and operate out of that. Myself and the other medics were in charge of setting up a BAS (battalion aid station) and doing sick call as well as simulated injury patients. We actually had some pretty good real injuries as well. Throughout all of AT we had about 6-7 medics and one PA for the whole Cavalry batallion.

This past year when I did AT I was the platoon sergeant of the medical platoon so I kind of had my own schedule than the rest of the guys, making sure that everything went smoothly on the medical side..it was fun. I got an army achievement medal out of that AT as well 👍

 

[Barium56]

Right now we have the following in the rumor mill (let me know if I've forgotten any):

1. The 200 spots are not opening up in October and ASR is going to be scrapped
2. The 200 spots are not opening up and new seats are only opening up as people graduate from the program
3. The ASR program is expanding to open up more than 200 seats in October
4. The ASR program is expanding to include residents
5. The ASR program is expanding to include nurses

!Rumor Warning!

Notdeadyet, I think you got most of them here. But you can add one more. I just met with my recruiter today. He said he had heard they were going to add 50 new ASR slots (not the full 200) if they got the funding. But he said he doesn't believe anything until he sees it in writing.

I am done with my application and hoping that some slots open up. My first board interview (I don't remember the official name) is set for July 16th.

 

[punkiedad]

I haven't done an AT as a 2LT yet, but have from ranks private first class through staff sergeant. A couple years ago my division became a Mountain division so we've done a lot of rock climbing (30-60ft) and repelling (60-130ft cliffs) as well as a lot of rope work (knots, etc). Then there's the usual land navigation (on foot and also vehicles), ambush tactics, setting up perimeters, gunfighter, hand-to-hand combat, medical training, etc, etc. Wake up was at 0500, then personal time/cleaning barracks from 0500-0630 or so, and then breakfast. Day began at 0800 and usually ended around 1700. We had MRE's for lunch. Dinner chow was around 1800 or 1830. After that you had free time. We also had a four day FTX (field training exercise) where we had to set up a forward operating base and operate out of that. Myself and the other medics were in charge of setting up a BAS (battalion aid station) and doing sick call as well as simulated injury patients. We actually had some pretty good real injuries as well. Throughout all of AT we had about 6-7 medics and one PA for the whole Cavalry batallion.

This past year when I did AT I was the platoon sergeant of the medical platoon so I kind of had my own schedule than the rest of the guys, making sure that everything went smoothly on the medical side..it was fun. I got an army achievement medal out of that AT as well 👍

wow😱

 

[AliceNWndrlnd]

This was on the NY ANG web site. It give a lot of useful information about the MDSSP and STRAP programs. I am interested either doing the ASR or MDSSP program, haven't decided which one yet though.

http://www.dmna.state.ny.us/arng/ocs/med_benefits.pdf

more info from same site.

http://dmna.state.ny.us/arng/ocs/amedd_incentives_program_guidance.pdf

They are also advertising the ASR program, but I haven't found any specifics yet.