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Can anyone currently attending AUC enlighten me about the courses, labs, and profs. Why is the USMLE pass rate only 81% vs. Ross 93%?
What about rotations? Is Ross better?(academically) not island location wise!
 

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streak said:
Can anyone currently attending AUC enlighten me about the courses, labs, and profs. Why is the USMLE pass rate only 81% vs. Ross 93%?
What about rotations? Is Ross better?(academically) not island location wise!

Ross has a very strict policy of only letting those who pass a very touch comprehensive shelf exam sit for the USMLE.
 

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AUC is now implementing shelf exams. A Kaplan review course is being offered on-site also (video). Neither of these were done in the past so I imagine it will improve the pass rate.
 

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streak said:
Can anyone currently attending AUC enlighten me about the courses, labs, and profs. Why is the USMLE pass rate only 81% vs. Ross 93%?
What about rotations? Is Ross better?(academically) not island location wise!

Ross' 93% is a gimic. It's comparable to most pre-med departments at small colleges boasting of their 95% placement rate at medical schools;yes, it's 95% after they weed out 100 students during the first three years so that only 10 students apply. Ross has a shelf exam that students must pass before they can sit for the boards. If you fail it, you can't take Step 1. It's a process used to protect Ross and inflate their passing numbers.

Honestly, go to SGU first and if you can't get in there, go to AUC over Ross. The living conditions at AUC are the closest that you will come to U.S. living conditions. I know graduates of AUC who claim to have had the best years of their life down there because of the large number of bars, casinos, restaurants etc. People who are at Ross are miserable because their island is the worst.

Rotations-wise, I heard from these same AUC people that Ross' setup is much more impressive, however, they are concentrated in New York. So if you want to rotations outside New York, Ross won't really help you that much. Also, most of these Carribbean schools share sites so you won't be missing anything by going to AUC.

The one thing that never gets brought up in the AUC vs. Ross debates is the nature of the student body. I have heard this from both Ross and AUC students that AUC student body is far less gunner and cutthroat than Ross. But some people choose Ross over AUC because it's slightly older and more established. But I have yet to hear of students at AUC complain about their school as much as Ross students do. AUC definitely seemed more laid back than Ross students in rotations, I can tell you that much.
 

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TTSD said:
Ross has a very strict policy of only letting those who pass a very touch comprehensive shelf exam sit for the USMLE.

Actually, only those without a 2.9 GPA or higher at the end of the fourth semester are required to take the comprehensive shelf exam. They must pass this in order to advance to the fifth semester and take the USMLE Step I. If they don't pass, they must stay for a shortened fifth semester on the island to take what is essentially a Step I prep course.

In contradiction to daelroy's opinion, most people consider Ross before AUC. There are a few reasons for this. At Ross, you're guaranteed to be able to do all your rotations in the U.S. And, there's no reason that you shouldn't be able to do them all at ACGME programs. But some don't care since they don't plan on practicing in CA, PA, or TX anyways. Another reason is the aforementioned higher first-time board pass rate. Another reason is the perceived (whether true or not) "better" prestige. The "gunner" or "cut-thoat" reputation I think is overblown. The profs here definitely challenge us but people are just competing against themselves really. The vast majority of students here are cordial and help each other out when they can. And I think life on this island strengthens that comaderie cause we tend to rely on each other probably a lot more than if we were back home in the U.S.
 
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