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Future pharmacists,
I am giving you free advice; that which I would have appreciated in 2011, but there was no one to tell me. Do not be fooled by 3-year for-profit schools. Take that extra year at school: grow and develop your skills.
You have worked hard to get admitted to Pharmacy school, passed late night-outs because the organic chemistry scheme was not finished, spent endless nights polishing your admission paperwork, saved to pay for trips back and forth, and now you are ready to go. Congratulations! You made it.
Now some of you may have two choices: a public 4-year school and another overhyped private for-profit (though they never mention it) school promising to get you to the profession you love as soon as possible. I plead with you DO NOT, DO NOT buy into these lies. They lie and once they get you in: this is the operation mode - manipulate with 'friendship', if not accepted then harassment and bullying sets in. It is misery.
My story.
I made that mistake 6 years ago, am still fighting to get what is due to me. I had a good job at one of the best and biggest employers. After advice from one of my bosses: 'pharmacy was better in returns than Law' - (plus someone was retiring and they would have an opening at graduation time) - I enrolled in a school I had never heard of, in a state I knew nothing about, in a city whose streets are hard to trace on a GPS. I was naive, very naive. Pharmacy - what could go wrong: the second most trusted profession, there is an oath to protect life; they have to be just as good as my hidden Ivy in the neighborhood. Tuition? well, was kinda high but it added up nicely to be equivalent to a private 4-year school. I met a bunch of men and women at the interview who had no problem lying right through their teeth. Both men and women. I fell for it.
Huh, I should have known when the dean bombarded students with emails like a used car salesman going for a kill. Fast forward 2 years later: 10 months to graduation - I was dismissed for missing a one-day rotation class: after months of following their advice. Well, the dean had bragged on how he was not going to let anyone mess with his accreditation process. And that no one could take him anywhere. Yeah, I know - there is other parts of the story you do not know, so you cannot take sides. Fair enough. But what if a dean, vice-president, instructors and some students have colluded to lie, (documentation exists to prove that indeed they were lying), What if ACPE was in on the lies? You ask why or how? Well, this is a for-profit school looking to cash in on the 'pharmacy school' lucrative business. The student body is beginning to agitate (fraud, lack of facilities, few members of faculty and mediocre instruction), and the program needs to intimidate students into silence and scare them? Find someone to dismiss as an example.
If you go here my dear future doctors, u will not be competitive in the coming tough job market. That I can guarantee you. I was there. Some of your instructors will be random businessmen pimping their businesses.
So after months of tears and misery, I sued the school. My lawyer was sorta unbelievable, but he was the only one who had experience. Remember, I was an outsider in a small community in the South: my goose was cooked. I had nothing to lose as I saw it. Dang! The lies were let loose from the cesspool. In 2016, I sat for 7 hours and watched as my former instructors lied and lied....and then forwarded affidavits that were pure perjury. I asked my lawyer to rebut the lies: he refused. I am not sure why: he claimed that the judge would see it as a witch-hunt, but again, all these people are alumnae of one school including the judge: around the same time of study too. They painted me as an unprofessional ex-student, with the help of one Michael Dotson who went through school cheating, lying and more cheating on examinations. Something told me to let my lawyer be as I looked at a different route. David cannot be fighting Goliath man to man. Imagine you don't have a lawyer and you are facing 7 elderly men feigning anger. I knew that justice was not to happen in Tennessee. I kept asking and pushing everywhere, I still am.
So at the beginning of the year, I sued individuals of that school and ACPE for colluding to harm me (for the purposes of this write up). This time, I cited the lies my lawyer had refused to confront (thinking of demanding a refund from him) - South has started a school in his neighborhood and I suspect he has a role, maybe not, but I know that is how my former dean operates. Manipulation galore).
Well, the South College lawyers came down on me breathing sulfur and brimstone. What I do not understand: is it a western cultural thing for perpetrators of evil to be angrier than the victims? They were all huffing and puffing and threatening. I wish they had huffed and puffed when I asked them to stop the bullying perpetrated by the dean and Dotson.
Oh, I of course lost the case in Tennessee. Which I expected. But have filed an appeal. Too much perjury going on over there. My former dean took the Sessions route "he could not recall a thing". What amused me is that 3 months after he dismissed me, he recalled a totally different version of facts (to the ACPE, DoE, FSA and officials of Higher education) from those he recalled 2 years later what really happened). To be clear, he lied. In documentation.
So now, my great former school is offering me a whopping $2000 (two thousand) dollars to go away into the night and leave them alone...am still smiling at the fortune. Am sorry but I think these guys are racist...because they keep telling me of "people like me" "knowing where you come from" is this how people talk in Knoxville? I owe the Fed. govt over $100,000 in loans.
I know most of you have your theories about not putting this here: but I have received great encouragement from this forum. Matter of fact, it was a member of SDN that first pushed me to fight back.
Now, the owner of this school (South in Knoxville, Ashville, and Nashville) is related to one John South III, one of the directors of the shady outfit that was fined some $95 million dollars by the govt for fraudulent activity in their for-profit schools.
I have a lying VP, dean and instructors and ACPE to deal with. Might as well just focus on shading light on this.
Thanks, guys: keep the advice coming. Going strong. Have former students cheated out of South calling already.
I am giving you free advice; that which I would have appreciated in 2011, but there was no one to tell me. Do not be fooled by 3-year for-profit schools. Take that extra year at school: grow and develop your skills.
You have worked hard to get admitted to Pharmacy school, passed late night-outs because the organic chemistry scheme was not finished, spent endless nights polishing your admission paperwork, saved to pay for trips back and forth, and now you are ready to go. Congratulations! You made it.
Now some of you may have two choices: a public 4-year school and another overhyped private for-profit (though they never mention it) school promising to get you to the profession you love as soon as possible. I plead with you DO NOT, DO NOT buy into these lies. They lie and once they get you in: this is the operation mode - manipulate with 'friendship', if not accepted then harassment and bullying sets in. It is misery.
My story.
I made that mistake 6 years ago, am still fighting to get what is due to me. I had a good job at one of the best and biggest employers. After advice from one of my bosses: 'pharmacy was better in returns than Law' - (plus someone was retiring and they would have an opening at graduation time) - I enrolled in a school I had never heard of, in a state I knew nothing about, in a city whose streets are hard to trace on a GPS. I was naive, very naive. Pharmacy - what could go wrong: the second most trusted profession, there is an oath to protect life; they have to be just as good as my hidden Ivy in the neighborhood. Tuition? well, was kinda high but it added up nicely to be equivalent to a private 4-year school. I met a bunch of men and women at the interview who had no problem lying right through their teeth. Both men and women. I fell for it.
Huh, I should have known when the dean bombarded students with emails like a used car salesman going for a kill. Fast forward 2 years later: 10 months to graduation - I was dismissed for missing a one-day rotation class: after months of following their advice. Well, the dean had bragged on how he was not going to let anyone mess with his accreditation process. And that no one could take him anywhere. Yeah, I know - there is other parts of the story you do not know, so you cannot take sides. Fair enough. But what if a dean, vice-president, instructors and some students have colluded to lie, (documentation exists to prove that indeed they were lying), What if ACPE was in on the lies? You ask why or how? Well, this is a for-profit school looking to cash in on the 'pharmacy school' lucrative business. The student body is beginning to agitate (fraud, lack of facilities, few members of faculty and mediocre instruction), and the program needs to intimidate students into silence and scare them? Find someone to dismiss as an example.
If you go here my dear future doctors, u will not be competitive in the coming tough job market. That I can guarantee you. I was there. Some of your instructors will be random businessmen pimping their businesses.
So after months of tears and misery, I sued the school. My lawyer was sorta unbelievable, but he was the only one who had experience. Remember, I was an outsider in a small community in the South: my goose was cooked. I had nothing to lose as I saw it. Dang! The lies were let loose from the cesspool. In 2016, I sat for 7 hours and watched as my former instructors lied and lied....and then forwarded affidavits that were pure perjury. I asked my lawyer to rebut the lies: he refused. I am not sure why: he claimed that the judge would see it as a witch-hunt, but again, all these people are alumnae of one school including the judge: around the same time of study too. They painted me as an unprofessional ex-student, with the help of one Michael Dotson who went through school cheating, lying and more cheating on examinations. Something told me to let my lawyer be as I looked at a different route. David cannot be fighting Goliath man to man. Imagine you don't have a lawyer and you are facing 7 elderly men feigning anger. I knew that justice was not to happen in Tennessee. I kept asking and pushing everywhere, I still am.
So at the beginning of the year, I sued individuals of that school and ACPE for colluding to harm me (for the purposes of this write up). This time, I cited the lies my lawyer had refused to confront (thinking of demanding a refund from him) - South has started a school in his neighborhood and I suspect he has a role, maybe not, but I know that is how my former dean operates. Manipulation galore).
Well, the South College lawyers came down on me breathing sulfur and brimstone. What I do not understand: is it a western cultural thing for perpetrators of evil to be angrier than the victims? They were all huffing and puffing and threatening. I wish they had huffed and puffed when I asked them to stop the bullying perpetrated by the dean and Dotson.
Oh, I of course lost the case in Tennessee. Which I expected. But have filed an appeal. Too much perjury going on over there. My former dean took the Sessions route "he could not recall a thing". What amused me is that 3 months after he dismissed me, he recalled a totally different version of facts (to the ACPE, DoE, FSA and officials of Higher education) from those he recalled 2 years later what really happened). To be clear, he lied. In documentation.
So now, my great former school is offering me a whopping $2000 (two thousand) dollars to go away into the night and leave them alone...am still smiling at the fortune. Am sorry but I think these guys are racist...because they keep telling me of "people like me" "knowing where you come from" is this how people talk in Knoxville? I owe the Fed. govt over $100,000 in loans.
I know most of you have your theories about not putting this here: but I have received great encouragement from this forum. Matter of fact, it was a member of SDN that first pushed me to fight back.
Now, the owner of this school (South in Knoxville, Ashville, and Nashville) is related to one John South III, one of the directors of the shady outfit that was fined some $95 million dollars by the govt for fraudulent activity in their for-profit schools.
I have a lying VP, dean and instructors and ACPE to deal with. Might as well just focus on shading light on this.
Thanks, guys: keep the advice coming. Going strong. Have former students cheated out of South calling already.
