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Hey, I have accepted to attend AZPOD. Just wondering if anyone else out there is going to do the same. thanks.
Hey azpod. I am from Utah. Interviewed October 24, I think the first group of the year. Very excited for warm winters. Feel very stoked about the school and the education I have coming. Looking forward to meeting ya. THanks
Yes sir. See you in a few months cheetos!! Congrats.
So what clinched the deal for AZPOD?
No guitar, but the volleyball, ping pong, and basketball courts that I saw there will fit my lifestyle very well
How many ppl are they accepting this year? 30? Also, seeing that there's a test almost every monday, how rigorous is the curriculum so far?
They should be accepting about 30.
I really don't want to frighten you about the curriculum... not only that, I don't think there is any way someone can really understand what the flood is like at AZPOD until you get there. I don't care what the students from the other schools say (I know their programs are extremely challenging), AZPOD is the toughest school in the country.
You will need to study all day if you want to do ALRIGHT (though there are some who do extremely well) and about 15-20% have failed out of the program already and are gone now that the quarter has ended (as of a week ago). Keep in mind, AZPOD students have the highest stats and those who failed out were not poor students... it is just really, really hard.
It sure is invigorating, however. You learn so much in such a short period of time. You will be amazed at how much you have learned at the end of your first quarter. We definitely take refuge in the foosball table and ping pong table and pool table and basketball courts and sand volleyball and little weight room. It helps to have an outlet for the stress.
We just had some excellent residency directors come and we were called "the Millenium Falcon of podiatric medical education." But the joke around here is, "I should have gone to X podiatric medical school, instead... " or "There's always law school " because of the difficulty of the course load.
Anyway, no doubt your education will be top notch and you will get out essentially having gone to the top osteopathic medical school in the nation... at least at the same educational level as them.
Have fun but try to take those courses I mentioned above because those who struggled least this quarter have already had those courses and have perfomed solidly in them.
AZPOD Rocks
They should be accepting about 30.
I really don't want to frighten you about the curriculum... not only that, I don't think there is any way someone can really understand what the flood is like at AZPOD until you get there. I don't care what the students from the other schools say (I know their programs are extremely challenging), AZPOD is the toughest school in the country.
You will need to study all day if you want to do ALRIGHT (though there are some who do extremely well) and about 15-20% have failed out of the program already and are gone now that the quarter has ended (as of a week ago). Keep in mind, AZPOD students have the highest stats and those who failed out were not poor students... it is just really, really hard.
It sure is invigorating, however. You learn so much in such a short period of time. You will be amazed at how much you have learned at the end of your first quarter. We definitely take refuge in the foosball table and ping pong table and pool table and basketball courts and sand volleyball and little weight room. It helps to have an outlet for the stress.
We just had some excellent residency directors come and we were called "the Millenium Falcon of podiatric medical education." But the joke around here is, "I should have gone to X podiatric medical school, instead... " or "There's always law school " because of the difficulty of the course load.
Anyway, no doubt your education will be top notch and you will get out essentially having gone to the top osteopathic medical school in the nation... at least at the same educational level as them.
Have fun but try to take those courses I mentioned above because those who struggled least this quarter have already had those courses and have perfomed solidly in them.
AZPOD Rocks
I'm not pirating the thread but I would make sure you are accurate in your posts. DMU has had the highest overall stats the last 3 years I believe. While you might beat us in one of the 3 big stats overall GPA, pre-req GPA or MCAT, when all of the categories are looked at as a whole; DMU has been #1. All of this info was released when the college was re-accredited last month.
And program directors always tell everyone that they are number 1. Do you think that they would come in and say "This is a great school but man I hope I get a student from Scholl b/c they are so much better than you guys."
Again, I respect AZPOD and the curriculum but you must state the facts accurately. I will not argue who is the toughest program (most schools have about a 10-20% drop out rate) b/c I have never taken a test at AZPOD, but I just want the debate to be based on accurate facts.
What makes having studentsdrop out and quit persuing their dream so GRRRREAT! You all sound like Tony the Tiger on crack cheering for a Cowboy cheerleader try out. I'm mean really which school helps their students not fail? I am sure some highly qualified(high gpa, MCAT, etc.) student didn't cut it or chose not to(ever think of that) but what makes this so important? I mean Harvard students brag about getting in because so many people don't get in-yet so many of them graduate once they are there. Should POD be more strengent?spelling? Anyhow I want into podiatry and will go with who accepts me and based on what I've read if two accept the all the merrier for a decision. bonjour et a la prochain chicaine.
Hmmm.... where to start?
First... How does DMU's curriculum stack up against MWU's curriculum? I can't say for certain, of course, but if we look at the osteopathic components of each school, there is quite a large performance gap. AZCOM is the top DO school in the country (I'll explain in a minute) and DMU COM is a SOLID, middle-of-the-road program. Certainly, DMU is a fine school, but the numbers and match placements are fairly different in terms of competitiveness.
Second... "AZPOD will be a great program..." I appreciate the support and would like to change this statement to "AZPOD IS a great program." Also, I think the DMUers have a skewed perspective on AZPOD's origins. They always bring up "AZPOD is a baby DMU" or something similar. This is simply untrue. I invite the DMUers to actually call and talk to Dr. Jenkins (a former professor at DMU and the current AZPOD Director of Admissions). He was prominent at DMU and knows all about the curriculum. He told me that AZPOD has very few similarities with DMU and was mainly patterned after MD/DO programs in order to "raise the bar of podiatric medical education." You can also talk to Dr. Freeman, Biomechanics Goddess. She was at DMU, as well, and can confirm these statements. I don't want to hear any more from you DMUers about this topic until you take the time to talk to those who have been at both institutions. It's just annoying.
Third... How can I say AZPOD is the toughest program in the country... tougher than most allopathic schools and all osteopathic schools? I KNOW this is a bold statement... that's why I made it. Medical school is only important for imparting knowledge to get you to where you want to go AFTER medical school. The standards for comparison always include: board scores, residency matches, and student performance around the country. The board standard used by MD and DO alike is the USMLE. Again I turn to AZPOD's osteopathic comrade's to make this claim. They perform better than most allopathic medical students on the USMLE (better than 50%) and better than all DO students on BOTH the USMLE and the COMLEX (DO boards). They obtain more competitive residency spots than any other DO school and just as competitive as most allopathic schools. The reason for this is board scores and impressive student knowledge as they rotate around the country. It makes sense that AZPOD students (who take the exact same basic science coursework for the 1st two years) would perform just as well if they were allowed to take the USMLE.
Dr. Feelgood, I'd love to know what your entry stats were for this years' class, because I know what ours were and I think there may be some fluffiness of the numbers going on somewhere.
Lastly... I love you all. Too bad there isn't a kissing smiley or all of you guys would be getting some mad Thanksgiving love from me.
AZPOD Rocks
I don't know my classes stats and frankly I don't care about yours. Like I said, you can claim that AZPOD is the best professional school in the world, I don't care. Just make sure that the information you use to back it up can be quoted. I would hope at the best school in the world they would have discussed EBM and I would hope that you use it.
P.S. Here is where I got my info. I'm pretty sure that the school would not lie to the the accrediation council.
http://my.dmu.edu/portal/DocCache/200611211620_632997228301197372_october 06.pdf
Oui j'ai servi un mission au Quebec, mais ma francais est terrible. Et comment avez-vous entudu la francais? yeah I really know my french svck$. I'm going to take some courses to get it to par with some of you that actually know it.
Dr. Feelgood I tried variations of the link and still couldn't get it right.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. The whole debate on which school is better is juvenile. You will get nowhere. And as for AZPOD ROCKS, well...and I thought the MD's had big heads.
I think we should give up the school debate. It totally doesn't get us anywhere in the profession arguing about which school is best. I'm guilty of this too because I love the school I go to, as should everyone who chooses to go to a particular school. There are ups and downs to every school. I think we should totally start concentrating on things that affect our education and our profession and work together to make things better. Arguing solves nothing. As for DMU=great program. As for Arizona=great program. I feel we can all have pride in the schools we attend, and still manage to have real discussions online. If anything, it has been discusssed that things will be taken out on the bball court in spring.
Agreed. Everyone needs to realize that this is just some 2nd year student stating his/her opinion on the matter. This person still has a long way to go and a lot to learn.
I would suggest cation though as making huge, baseless claims (AZPOD has yet to even take part 2-3 boards, extern, or place anybody in residency) is only going to irritate fellow students and doctors and quite possibly sabotage the first class that goes out next year. I personally have a friend in the class of 08 so I'll be nice
Let's all play nice!
Perhaps it's the block schedule vs. the quarter curriculum that makes it seem like one school is harder than the other? Although students at any school take most of the same basic courses, I do notice that looking at the schedules, DMU's block schedule has us take 3-5 classes at one time while AZPOD's quarter schedule has us take 5-7 classes at one time. However, some of DMU's courses are very short hence the material must be crammed within a few weeks.
So looking at this over picture, I'm sure everything balances in the end and that no school is harder than the other. Just seems like it depends on the student's preference of 3-5 classes with some crammed in a short amout of time or 6 courses all starting and ending at the same time but with the possibility of tons of exams in the same week. Just my opinion, correct me if I'm wrong.
No guitar, but the volleyball, ping pong, and basketball courts that I saw there will fit my lifestyle very well
How many ppl are they accepting this year? 30? Also, seeing that there's a test almost every monday, how rigorous is the curriculum so far?
SAD! SAD! SAD!
Why don't you guys read my post? It's not written in too difficult of language for even junior high students to understand. "AZPOD Rocks says his program is the BEST" is an absolute lie! Why can't you guys read? That is not what was said.
Why don't I back my statements up? I DID back up the statements I was making. I DID not back up that AZPOD is the BEST school because I did not claim it was. Read people! I don't know why people are chiming in who don't even take the time to read my post critically. If you don't read well, you should not post, oncogene and friends.
I don't care if AZPOD hasn't taken Parts 2 and 3 or matched in residency, yet. This has nothing to do with the point I was making. All of you need to mind your 3rd row business and stop changing the meaning of my post... and for goodness sakes... learn to read, people!
Feelgood, your link does not work.
Ilizarob, funny that when students spout out about DMU's merits you don't tell THEM they have big heads. And, yes, they consistently mention how great their program is. If you can't be level headed and refrain from derogatory comments, please don't reply to my posts.
AZPOD Rocks
I agree. One thing and then I will leave this alone. I can't and wont say this for medical/dental schools but I think I can get away with saying this for podiatry schools since they aren't officially ranked. I am not in pod. school yet so I am probably not qualified to make this statement but I think the best school is the school that feel you can get the greatest education and training that fits your style and character the best. Also for me it mostly depends on location. My grades and extracurriculars are such were I have had no problem being accepted to all of the pod. schools. I know that sounds arrogant so sorry! However, I do not want to go to the Arizona school even though my stats are really high and I am 20 minutes away from it. I don't like their school at all. I dont want to go to Temple because I wouldn't be caught dead living in Pennyslvania ever and I think Scholl is ugly. I don't want to go to Barry because I am not catholic and don't want to go to a catholic school.
But I do want to go to Ohio because I love the people that I have talked to at the school and I feel that my wife and I would be able to have a wonderful life there. It may sound lame to everyone else but when schools aren't ranked, I don't care where I go. I know that I can succeed wherever I go as long as I put forth the effort and do my best. I just want to make sure that I get a good residency. I am not selling myself short just because I don't want to live in Des Moines even though their school totally rocks. For me, location is the most important. My family, not my schooling comes first, and I can succeed at any school, espeically where these schools aren't ranked.
Well, I probably sounded cocky, repetitive, and stupid so I will shutup. Thank you!
I agree. One thing and then I will leave this alone. I can't and wont say this for medical/dental schools but I think I can get away with saying this for podiatry schools since they aren't officially ranked. I am not in pod. school yet so I am probably not qualified to make this statement but I think the best school is the school that feel you can get the greatest education and training that fits your style and character the best. Also for me it mostly depends on location. My grades and extracurriculars are such were I have had no problem being accepted to all of the pod. schools. I know that sounds arrogant so sorry! However, I do not want to go to the Arizona school even though my stats are really high and I am 20 minutes away from it. I don't like their school at all. I dont want to go to Temple because I wouldn't be caught dead living in Pennyslvania ever and I think Scholl is ugly. I don't want to go to Barry because I am not catholic and don't want to go to a catholic school.
But I do want to go to Ohio because I love the people that I have talked to at the school and I feel that my wife and I would be able to have a wonderful life there. It may sound lame to everyone else but when schools aren't ranked, I don't care where I go. I know that I can succeed wherever I go as long as I put forth the effort and do my best. I just want to make sure that I get a good residency. I am not selling myself short just because I don't want to live in Des Moines even though their school totally rocks. For me, location is the most important. My family, not my schooling comes first, and I can succeed at any school, espeically where these schools aren't ranked.
Well, I probably sounded cocky, repetitive, and stupid so I will shutup. Thank you!
Thanks to all for jumping on this thread. I have to agree with Dr. Feelgood, let the rest of the thread be for kids going to azpod next year. I actually love the healthy debate. I think that if you do not believe your school is the best, and do not feel they give you the best education, why go there? Also, it is true that your education is YOURS! What you make of it is what it will be. The knowledge does not change because you live on one side of the country or the other. You can learn as much as or more than any other student if you are willing to do the work. I choose Arizona because I felt it was (will be) the best environment for my family while I go to school. Obviously, I feel the school itself will give ME the best education I can get, but that also depends on my work ethic.
Anyway, thanks again for all the ideas for everyone to ponder. Remember, in the the end all 8 schools are accredited and it is really up to you what you learn.
Hate to be the fact check up again but AZPOD is not accredited yet; they are still a conditional candidate.