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BrownSwissCows said:
I guess I don't see how that would be a clearing move. Villager or wolf, that would strike me as being the right play in that situation. Especially as things were turning more to AB at that point.
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Correct, I was agreeing with whoever said that it didn't clear 1dog, which was in direct contradiction to SOV who was less suspicious of 1dog b/c the vote
 
thedrjojo said:
I feel weird with my drive by posting. I come on, drop like 5 posts, and disappear. Probably not within the spirit of the post restriction, but IDGAF
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Hey that's how I've been playing. Except today, my body is angry with me and I've been fighting a fever/bone pain all day.

I'll probably post more in a bit when I settle back in bed. Those will be more strategic but no guarantees they'll make any sense.
 
DVMDream said:
Hey that's how I've been playing. Except today, my body is angry with me and I've been fighting a fever/bone pain all day.

I'll probably post more in a bit when I settle back in bed. Those will be more strategic but no guarantees they'll make any sense.
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It's ok, I tend to feel that way after most of your posts

:poke:
 
thedrjojo said:
Before or after fb death? Can someone give me a clear answer of who didn't lynch?
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Rocky, fb, and ab did not vote in yesterday's lynch. AB was then lynched. FB was then killed.
dyachei said:
this weekend is going to be difficult as I have family in town. I propose a 48 hr day cycle. Yea or nay
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I am OK with this plan
genny said:
Hope my colors show up (green for dead villagers, red for wolves) on the day 1 final tally:
Teep 2 (.AM., zen)
1dog 1 (.Deva.)
rocky 1 (SM/WZ)
guis 4 (bsc, Jil, BBC, RM/SOV)
genny 2 (guis, .FB.)
hayley 5 (1dog, dvmd, Teep, rocky, PBC)
mq 1 (LoTF)
RM 4 (.AB3., .sandy., .WTF., genny)
PBC 1 (.hayley.)
LoTF 2 (.stl., LIS)
STL 1 (.vetmedhead.)
LIS 1 (MQ)
Deva 2 (rojo, kaydubs).
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Noticed in passing that my early game counterpart's first vote was apparently for rocky. Just a little amusing.
I think it's worth considering lotf as a potential wolf based on stl voting for her day 1 (plus other factors, i think people had some suspicions, and she's not low on my suspect list) but I would have to know if he typically picks another wolf to vote for on day 1 or if he's more of an rng guy. Don't think I've ever wolfed with him so I'm not sure.
genny said:
I find it odd because you've played this game a lot, and you're basically advocating for us to ignore the one time that the wolves had to coordinate with each other on-thread, since they couldn't PM until night.
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It's more about not putting too much weight on the final vote tally. Sure there's a little here or there you could draw conclusions from throughout the day. But once that seer reveal hits, any votes that jump away from his wagon are meaningless. It's the same on day 2 after wtf revealed her results. You can't draw any conclusions when there is only one thing anyone, wolf or villager, is going to do.
thedrjojo said:
Wait, who exposed stl?

Genny was second to lynch him, immediately agreeing with me, but I'm gonna continue to Pat myself on the back until my arm is sore for calling him out correctly for once... And will never let it go... "remember that one time I totally picked up on him being a wolf... Im an expert at picking that out on him, he's totally a wolf this time"
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Genny was the one who called him out for being roley.
 
Zensing said:
I don't think all of those roles are included in here. Post restrictor was in dyachei's WW anesthesia game, but I've seen no evidence of it here.
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I feel like a post restrictor would go against the whole point of this game, to encourage people to post more. Obviously appears there's more roles than everyone initially suspected, but I wouldn't expect to find that role here based on the "point" of this game.
 
DVMDream said:
Like you, I have tried to repeatedly analyzed that first day lynch tally to attempt to find someone who sticks out as wolfy through that day and the conclusion that I have come to is that many of us were just confused and simply fell for what STL stated. It happens. LIS, WTF , rojo.... three people I consider good, strong players also fell for STL's ploy. Yes, rojo was vocal about lynching him at first, but also switched his vote with STL's reveal. Because of this, I have considered that day 1 lynch a wash for attempting to determine wolf vs. villagerness for players.
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I've had some of the same thoughts as DVMD regarding D1. While it's true that we can look at it for how wolves acted before strategizing together, I also think we're likely to find a bunch of confused villagers. I am more inclined to look more heavily at days after, as people started figuring the game out. I don't plan on entirely throwing out D1, and if it supports my thoughts from other days, great - but it's not going to be the basis for my reasoning because I think it's one of the easier days for villagers to have honest mistakes (plus a lot of RNG votes happen D1).
 
WildZoo said:
It's more about not putting too much weight on the final vote tally. Sure there's a little here or there you could draw conclusions from throughout the day. But once that seer reveal hits, any votes that jump away from his wagon are meaningless. It's the same on day 2 after wtf revealed her results. You can't draw any conclusions when there is only one thing anyone, wolf or villager, is going to do.
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Ok, now that I reread DVMD's post, I can see how it could be interpreted as referencing just the final tally. I maybe read more into it than was there, as I thought she meant the entire day, not just the final tally.
 
I'm gonna go with lynch rocky for now, along the lines of her posts seeming to fly under the radar a little bit, and not be anything dramatic or attention-drawing, which could be wolfy.

I'm also suspicious of BBC and Teep at this point. Both of them have had posts with phrasing the bugged me, especially teep's recent justification for voting for me instead of AB the lynch we killed AB.
 
Oh, and 48 hours is fine by me. I work 6-7 days a week normally, but I'll have some time off this weekend which means lots of building things on the farm. It's a bit tough to follow the thread while digging post holes and designing a new goat pen.
 
DVMDream said:
This was the lynch tally immediately prior to my unlynching STL and lynching hayley.... could you please explain how I was "helping" to switch the vote to hayley, because I don't get it...




Like you, I have tried to repeatedly analyzed that first day lynch tally to attempt to find someone who sticks out as wolfy through that day and the conclusion that I have come to is that many of us were just confused and simply fell for what STL stated. It happens. LIS, WTF , rojo.... three people I consider good, strong players also fell for STL's ploy. Yes, rojo was vocal about lynching him at first, but also switched his vote with STL's reveal. Because of this, I have considered that day 1 lynch a wash for attempting to determine wolf vs. villagerness for players.
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well only 1 of those players - wtf - is a known villager. The other 2 are unknowns, and still on the sketch side if anything.

Certainly we can maybe give a pass to people who didn't switch off STL?

I for one would have been all over him if I was around (yeah, easy to say when I wasn't playing, but I my computer can vouch for me).
 
WildZoo said:
Rocky, fb, and ab did not vote in yesterday's lynch. AB was then lynched. FB was then killed.

I am OK with this plan

Noticed in passing that my early game counterpart's first vote was apparently for rocky. Just a little amusing.
I think it's worth considering lotf as a potential wolf based on stl voting for her day 1 (plus other factors, i think people had some suspicions, and she's not low on my suspect list) but I would have to know if he typically picks another wolf to vote for on day 1 or if he's more of an rng guy. Don't think I've ever wolfed with him so I'm not sure.

It's more about not putting too much weight on the final vote tally. Sure there's a little here or there you could draw conclusions from throughout the day. But once that seer reveal hits, any votes that jump away from his wagon are meaningless. It's the same on day 2 after wtf revealed her results. You can't draw any conclusions when there is only one thing anyone, wolf or villager, is going to do.

Genny was the one who called him out for being roley. ...................
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I don't get the LOTF thinking. She also was a late , and could have been decisive wolf lyncher. She switches off, it is a different story.

As for everyone not liking my 1dog theory, I guess I can see that. Details matter, and I missed the "saving themselves" part.

Still Rocky seems like a good choice to me.
 
in case i need one more post for 10 (I ain't getting up early tomorrow)...

I am not a wolf; i am a villager ...

That is as straight forward and relevant a WW post as i can think of.
(ps- before you start lynching me for defending myself from nothing, THIS WAS A JOKE, well not the strategy part).
 
StartingoverVet said:
well only 1 of those players - wtf - is a known villager. The other 2 are unknowns, and still on the sketch side if anything.

Certainly we can maybe give a pass to people who didn't switch off STL?

I for one would have been all over him if I was around (yeah, easy to say when I wasn't playing, but I my computer can vouch for me).
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Rojo is on the sketch side?


I get the reasons for LIS, just not convinced on them. But rojo is on the sketch side? When did this happen?

I think there was only one person who didn't switch off... and I don't recall them posting on the thread after STL claimed seer... though I could be mistaken. And honestly, I think remaining to vote someone who claimed seer is a bit more odd than switching off of them, but maybe that is just the fever talking.
 
genny said:
Ok, now that I reread DVMD's post, I can see how it could be interpreted as referencing just the final tally. I maybe read more into it than was there, as I thought she meant the entire day, not just the final tally....................
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I may not have been super clear on what I was meaning either.
 
Jilary said:
Even if this vote wasn't for me, it would give me feels. Hey, I don't know why some people are voting for her, but I'm going to make it a tie just in case I can't get back. That's not good WW thinking IMHO.
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I want to have the time to look through posts and have a lynch vote I believe in. Since voting for you made it more even and thus made it less likely plurality would happen before I would have a chance to get back and do that, I voted for you. 🙂
 
StartingoverVet said:
Gotta address this because I do believe you guys are going overboard in discounting stuff. Dyachei explained this is not going to have a lot of roles or a lot of pm-ing....she didn't say it was going to be completely devoid of stuff. Conversions are pretty basic. Multiple seers are out. An assassin, why not? But wolves that are near impossible to kil...out. Probably neutral or chaos out.

I think less speculation on what might be excluded, and more analysis of what we have evidence of.
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Preach. 100% agreement.
 
guisantes said:
I also just can't quite past my feels for BBC. I thought earlier that her seemingly not knowing FB had died was pretty good cause to lower her on my list of suspicions, but now that I'm thinking about it, that was weird. The night results were posted at like 9:30-something, and BBC posted at like 10:05. So, it isn't like the results were posted at a time when BBC was typing (I don't even think this is possible with the thread being closed) and the posts were posted within minutes of each other...BBC clearly had time to read night results before posting. That doesn't mean she read the night results before she posted...but it's still strange.
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Lol I definitely read the results. Then laughed to myself because Filly has been a protector in 50% of the games I have played. Then continued onward with life and by the time I wrote that post about reading her posts had completely forgotten. I also refuse to scroll up through posts while I am writing one, so I wasn't looking at the roster while doing so (similar to my Guis/genny mixup at the beginning).

I promise you it was me pulling a Dory, not a sinister plot. :laugh:
 
genny said:
Hope my colors show up (green for dead villagers, red for wolves) on the day 1 final tally:
Teep 2 (.AM., zen)
1dog 1 (.Deva.)
rocky 1 (SM/WZ)
guis 4 (bsc, Jil, BBC, RM/SOV)
genny 2 (guis, .FB.)
hayley 5 (1dog, dvmd, Teep, rocky, PBC)
mq 1 (LoTF)
RM 4 (.AB3., .sandy., .WTF., genny)
PBC 1 (.hayley.)
LoTF 2 (.stl., LIS)
STL 1 (.vetmedhead.)
LIS 1 (MQ)
Deva 2 (rojo, kaydubs).
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Huh. How come Rojo, who made such a big deal at some point early in the game about his longstanding rivalry with STL, didn't vote for STL on the Day 1 tally?

Or am I misremembering what Rojo said?

 
Just reread all of Guis's posts, and I didn't find anything incredibly suspicious. Her comment about lynching her instead of STL D1 (with her in 2nd place at lynch) honestly makes me feel like she is a villager.

Going back through Jil's actually raises my suspicions a bit. There is a lot of small things (defending/not originally lynching STL, defending Teep (yes not a proven wolf but someone that there has been suspicion of), defending AB3, voting to lynch guis (who I feel is a villager)) that I can forgive individually but together bug me a bit. She was also very defensive about being on the chopping block for lynch, but I don't know if that is common for her.

Some of Teep's posts are rubbing me the wrong way as well. The defense of STL and AB3, plus the changing play style as the game went on. As the game progressed he(or she?) began commenting on different things with a different tone (not quoting anything because I already closed that tab and I'm not going through those posts again)

Side note: Depending on whether LIS/Teep end up as wolfy or villager will definitely impact my opinions on those above

For now I will stick with my Jil lynch vote. Actually scratch the "for now", I won't be back on until after lynch closes.

Would love to go read the posts of DVMD and Rojo but it is currently almost midnight and I have to be up by 3:30am for a volunteer thing. So that can wait for another day.

Closing note: I will probably will not show up until the 2nd 24 hours of the next day cycle. Between work, long weekend shenanigans, and having no phone (dropped mine in the toilet...), I won't have internet access.
 
BeautifulBritishColumbia said:
Going back through Jil's actually raises my suspicions a bit. There is a lot of small things (defending/not originally lynching STL, defending Teep (yes not a proven wolf but someone that there has been suspicion of), defending AB3, voting to lynch guis (who I feel is a villager)) that I can forgive individually but together bug me a bit. She was also very defensive about being on the chopping block for lynch, but I don't know if that is common for her.

Some of Teep's posts are rubbing me the wrong way as well. The defense of STL and AB3, plus the changing play style as the game went on. As the game progressed he(or she?) began commenting on different things with a different tone (not quoting anything because I already closed that tab and I'm not going through those posts again)
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D1 STL was being lynched for being "Roley" I didn't thing that was a good reason to lynch him, and as many people have brought up, wtf was the strongest defender of him that's day. I didn't want him to get lynched d1 because it sounded like he had a role.

When did I defend teep? Not saying it didn't happen, but as of right now, he's actually someone is be ok with lynching.

I didn't defend AB, just said that I thought her posts sounded nooby. I also asked for people to specifically point out where she sounded more well informed, and the posts selected weren't enough to change my vote. I've seen how she posts in the lounge and I was kind of ignoring her. I admit that was a mistake. I believe only 6 people voted for AB, and others also said she just sounded nooby, so if I'm suspicious for that, then several other people are too.

Didn't I vote to lynch guis d1? Really? You are going to bring up my d1 randomish vote as a reason? That's just kind of silly! As of right now guis isn't on my radar, but I haven't seen anything that is solidly saying she's a villager.
 
dyachei said:
Official Lynch Tally:
rocky 4 (WZ, genny, kdizzle, SOV)
jilary 3 (mq, LIS, BBC)
teep 1 (zen)
lotf 1 (dvmd)

9/18 votes
4/18 minimums met
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thedrjojo said:
I thought you were 2 votes behind, but Idk... Maybe I should lynch you for it... Force yer hand
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My mistake, I was behind by one vote, not tied. I thought there was one vote for me after this tally, but I was wrong. I was super tired last night while reading and had drank a bunch of champagne for my mom's birthday.
 
LetItSnow said:
Huh. How come Rojo, who made such a big deal at some point early in the game about his longstanding rivalry with STL, didn't vote for STL on the Day 1 tally?

Or am I misremembering what Rojo said?

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He voted for him early d1 as per usual, switched off after stl's seer claim, so that vote isn't in the final tally.
 
If deva was villager assassinated, that was a super poor move. I think only one person was voting for her and there wasn't any glaring evidence. If it was supposed to be a mercy killing, that's still in poor taste. If someone wants or needs to leave a game that badly, they can ask the mods and they will be quickly accomodated.
 
WildZoo said:
Deva seems an odd choice for a villager assassin to me, if that is what happened. Maybe I'm just not seeing the logic there. I suppose if they were super convinced she was a wolf.
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Jilary said:
If deva was villager assassinated, that was a super poor move. I think only one person was voting for her and there wasn't any glaring evidence. If it was supposed to be a mercy killing, that's still in poor taste. If someone wants or needs to leave a game that badly, they can ask the mods and they will be quickly accomodated.
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I was going to say something similar to this last night but then I fell asleep. When deva died, I was really weirded out by it. The timing was strange, since like jil said there wasn't damning evidence against deva and there hadn't been THAT much discussion prior. I just thought it was an awfully quick decision, and it struck me as odd.
 
WildZoo said:
That's a good catch. Very confusing. His initial post made sense, but his explanation today makes that post nonsensical - if he was looking at 1dog's posts because of the PM comments then why did he say his conclusions were in regard to AB in his post today?

I mean, I know it was 4am but if you're isolating posts it's not like their usernames are similar.
I think I've wolfed with teep before and then also modded when he was a wolf so I'm trying to think if this is a move he would make to try to make his lynch vote look better. At the moment it makes little sense to me for him to draw any attention to it, but again, wolves are paranoid about everything they do seeming wolfy, so sometimes they overcompensate.
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I think we've only wolfed once together in STLs game. I don't think I've been a wolf ever besides then.

I really did make a mistake with my reasoning for my voting yesterday. Tiredness/brain fart or whatever happened, but it luckily didn't change the results of the Lynch (netting a wolf).

I do realize that I've dug myself a hole in this game by making some dumb posts. The more I speak, the more likely I am to say something that'll get me in trouble. All the extra focus on what everyone is saying and trying to find holes in peoples stories is really exploiting what dumb things I've said.
 
I just looked back through all my old PMs, and the infiltrated game was my only wolf game.
But I also came across the asylum game where I created about the same situation that I've made here.
Made an incorrect statement while villager that got taken as me having to be a wolf, and got killed.
I really guess some things don't ever change
 
Official Lynch Tally:
rocky 6 (WZ, genny, kdizzle, SOV, rojo, 1dogg)
jilary 3 (mq, LIS, BBC)
teep 1 (zen)
lotf 2 (dvmd, jil)
bbc 1 (guis)

13/18 votes
8/18 minimums met and some of you are *really close*. 1 of you is about to be mod-killed
 
StartingoverVet said:
in case i need one more post for 10 (I ain't getting up early tomorrow)...

I am not a wolf; i am a villager ...

That is as straight forward and relevant a WW post as i can think of.
(ps- before you start lynching me for defending myself from nothing, THIS WAS A JOKE, well not the strategy part).
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You always lie, you devious mantis shrimp. Kill sobsob, he was subbed in, must be a wolf to distract us 😛
 
Also, are we now on a 48 hour cycle? Or is that just for after this day?

Don't know if I need to stay up and keep reading and thinking, or if I can afford to sleep
 
DVMDream said:
Rojo is on the sketch side?
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@thedrjojo is always an etchasketch. LIS is always a villager. Sobsob is a mantis shrimp. STL IS BANANAS. MJ is a heartbreaker. And Teep is my favorite. We don't even mention hewhoshantbenamed cause he will ride in on a chocotaco and no one wants that.
 
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