Our school president said for now things will stay the same, but if the local area sees a substantial increase in cases, we will likely go back to masks indoors. Of course I’m on rotations and every hospital is still requiring masks anyway, so it doesn’t really affect me at all.
I read that the rate of “breakthrough” infection rate is only like 0.2% for the vaccinated though.
Are they getting hospitalized? That's the real concern here
I'm seeing A LOT of unvaccinated young and middle aged people who are not part of the political party you're implying
If the odds of severe disease are reduced, it makes no sense to force vaccinated people to mask up.
That's unfair to bury a topic as important as this in a hidden political dumpster fire forum. Topics in Healthcare is probably better
The CDC based that claim on incomplete and apparently misleading data
www.wsj.com
The CDC based that claim on incomplete and apparently misleading data
CDC’s Covid-19 Mask Guidance Clouded by Flawed Data
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is fighting Covid-19 without a full arsenal of data that some public-health experts said it would need to persuade more people to take steps to contain the pandemic.
"Inside the CDC, some officials disagree with the agency’s conclusion that vaccinated people who become infected may spread the virus as readily as the unvaccinated, and argue that more testing needs to be done, including tests that measure how infectious virus particles are, according to a person familiar with the matter
“There’s no one-to-one relationship between high viral load and infectivity, but we’re always making decisions based on imperfect data,” said Tom Frieden, who headed the CDC from 2009 to 2017."
Seriously, the CDC is a disaster and has been a complete mess since the pandemic started
Biden era CDC prematurely got rid of masks for vaccinated few months ago when delta variant was just on the rise.
The unvaxxed are likely not going to listen to CDC guidance if they haven't gotten vaccinated yet (assuming they had no underlying conditions that'd prevent them from getting vaccines)
It’s not the full concern. If people are getting covid, it doesn’t matter if they’re hospitalized if they’re giving it to other people who might be.
That is extremely hyperbolic and not an accurate representation.The CDC based that claim on incomplete and apparently misleading data
CDC’s Covid-19 Mask Guidance Clouded by Flawed Data
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is fighting Covid-19 without a full arsenal of data that some public-health experts said it would need to persuade more people to take steps to contain the pandemic.
"Inside the CDC, some officials disagree with the agency’s conclusion that vaccinated people who become infected may spread the virus as readily as the unvaccinated, and argue that more testing needs to be done, including tests that measure how infectious virus particles are, according to a person familiar with the matter
“There’s no one-to-one relationship between high viral load and infectivity, but we’re always making decisions based on imperfect data,” said Tom Frieden, who headed the CDC from 2009 to 2017."
Seriously, the CDC is a disaster and has been a complete mess since the pandemic started
It is accurate. The CDC data used is incomplete and misleading as mentioned above. The CDC also made an idiotic decision to get rid of masks prematurely in may when delta was just on the rise. The credibility of CDC is compromised.
Hospitalizations are the top priority though, and even then the breakthrough infection rate is much less than 1%
Basically i understand and support why the mask mandates are in place due to the delta/other covid variants but the CDC completely lost its credibility since the start of the pandemic and their recent guidance, reversal and reversal of reversal looks especially absurd.
The CDC is a mess
jamanetwork.com
Suffer??? Lmfao
I don't know anyone who enjoys wearing them. Do your kids? Especially those who wear glasses constantly fogging up and having teachers scold them for not covering their nose? Or those who participate in activities such as sports, choir, theater? My kid quit some activities because of masks. So, yeah, suffer.
My kids “suffer” when they don’t get candy. End. Of. The. World.
I'm sorry but this is a joke, right? What do you think I and many others did every day in surgery for hours and hours and for years on end prior to Covid? Sure, I don't actively want to wear a mask but suffer? There are also many ways to avoid fogging glasses. Do you think no one who wears glasses works in surgery?
lol. Are you serious? I didn't realize this was a pissing contest. My god. The word suffer literally means to experience something unpleasant; undergo or endure. Do you jump down people's throat for saying "I'm suffering a cold"? Whether you think my kid was wrong to not want to participate in activities because of masks, doesn't change the fact that it sucked the joy out of it for them, i.e. unpleasant. And that many kids have and continue to endure wearing masks doesn't change the fact that many have also stopped participating because of them. SDN certainly has its share of insufferable people.
It has plenty of incredibly melodramatic people as well, apparently. I'm sorry your child has to suffer such an incredible burden during these bizarre times. I can't even imagine how you feel about them having to wash their hands more too. WOULD THE ADMIN THINK OF THEIR DRY HANDS?!
Trials are still ongoing
The CDC based that claim on incomplete and apparently misleading data
CDC’s Covid-19 Mask Guidance Clouded by Flawed Data
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is fighting Covid-19 without a full arsenal of data that some public-health experts said it would need to persuade more people to take steps to contain the pandemic.
"Inside the CDC, some officials disagree with the agency’s conclusion that vaccinated people who become infected may spread the virus as readily as the unvaccinated, and argue that more testing needs to be done, including tests that measure how infectious virus particles are, according to a person familiar with the matter
“There’s no one-to-one relationship between high viral load and infectivity, but we’re always making decisions based on imperfect data,” said Tom Frieden, who headed the CDC from 2009 to 2017."
Seriously, the CDC is a disaster and has been a complete mess since the pandemic started
I question this. My state is close to 50/50 vaccinated and unvaccinated. None of the larger hospitals in the state are seeing what you're seeing. My hospital system is running at 95% of inpatient COVID patients unvaccinated.
