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[IronmanDO]

Alright, some douchebag cop gave me a ticket for "wreckless driving" about two hours ago and threatened to take me to jail and all kinds of nonsense. I will fight the charges but was wondering if this will prevent me from matriculating. It is not a felony but am still curious as to the impact on me starting school (I've already been accepted). Any clues out there?

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[MossPoh]

I'd be very surprised if it mattered and you could probably get a hefty sum of money if they did prevent you for something that was not a felony.

 

[EuroPhysician]

Unless he actually threw you into the joint, you probably have nothing to worry about. Plenty of medical students I am sure have traffic tickets. If he did not put the cuffs on and threw you into the back of his car, and to the big house, no worries.

I actually ran into a future medical student who was offered a role in a porno film, that might be something to worry about if you are going to be future physician.

 

[ShyRem]

1. Please refrain from the word "d-------g". It's pushing the line.

2. It's "reckless" driving.

3. Talk to your admissions office, but I'm relatively sure you shouldn't have a problem. It's generally considered a traffic infraction, not generally even a misdemeanor.

4. If you don't want a ticket, don't drive recklessly. Don't speed. Be aware of your driving habits. You're entering a profession where you will be scrutinized. Behave. Don't even cuss in public. Be nice. Believe it or not, folks will notice and talk.

5. If you do get pulled over, calling the cop a "d--------g" will pretty much guarantee you the ticket.

6. No, I didn't count the letters in the word.

7. Giving you a ticket is a promise you'll appear in court. If you're uncooperative or nasty, they do have the option of taking you to jail instead and making you bail out. Behave. You're not in a position of authority here, they are. When they're in your ER/office as a patient the tables will be turned.

 

[IronmanDO]

Thanks mom, I appreciate the advice, but you have no idea how everything happened or our rapport. In retrospect, the way that he pulled me over twice in thirty feet seems reminiscent of Super Troopers, and is laughable not only to me, but to the attorney that will be prosecuting for intimidation, invading the judicial process (and I'm not even getting started on being arrested, yes with handcuffs and a partner about to draw his gun on a speeding ticket, without rights), and a medium sized list of judgmental stereotypes that he verbalized. Oh, and this occurred in a state that is notorious for corruption, and abuses of power; but the attorneys and jury's and judges and media all know it too well and there is an active campaign to remove it from the government here.

And for anyone concerned with how I conducted myself and how him on an anonymous forum: nothing other than officer came out of my mouth until I got to this forum. If you are so interested to know the intimate details of the incident, please do not hesitate to send me a private message.

Thankyou to all that replied, you have greatly reduced my concerns. No further information is needed.

 

[ShyRem]

you must be in New England. I have NEVER seen such corruption as seems to pervade New England. (and quite frankly I am horrified by the incestuous nature of government offices here - it's absolutely abysmal.)

I apologize if it seemed I was making comments that seemed to accuse you of any behavior. I tried specifically to not accuse you (as I wasn't there), but rather made comments based on your original post.

Good luck to you.

 

[Jamers]

Thanks mom, I appreciate the advice, but you have no idea how everything happened or our rapport. In retrospect, the way that he pulled me over twice in thirty feet seems reminiscent of Super Troopers, and is laughable not only to me, but to the attorney that will be prosecuting for intimidation, invading the judicial process (and I'm not even getting started on being arrested, yes with handcuffs and a partner about to draw his gun on a speeding ticket, without rights), and a medium sized list of judgmental stereotypes that he verbalized. Oh, and this occurred in a state that is notorious for corruption, and abuses of power; but the attorneys and jury's and judges and media all know it too well and there is an active campaign to remove it from the government here.

And for anyone concerned with how I conducted myself and how him on an anonymous forum: nothing other than officer came out of my mouth until I got to this forum. If you are so interested to know the intimate details of the incident, please do not hesitate to send me a private message.

Thankyou to all that replied, you have greatly reduced my concerns. No further information is needed.

I find this funny because you haven't learned yet: if there was no video, no amount of you whining will get you anything. It is your word against his and guess what, his word is worth 10x as much as yours. Put it this way, you will be fined and if you act like you are on here, you will be fined to the extreme. Your best bet is to sit there and shut up.

 

[MossPoh]

Aren't most cop cars equipped with video for that reason now?

 

[IronmanDO]

This guy was a motorcycle cop so I'm not exactly sure if it has video. I'm not whining about trying to get out of it (although I am confident that it will be reduced if not completely thrown out) so dont make yet another uneducated assumption about the incident or my original post. Furthermore, you as aspiring physicians should all take offense to what happened and what words were exchanged. This cop said on several occasions that "all you doctor types are alike". It is important to note that this is both before and after he put me in handcuffs and threw me to the ground. This guy said many, many other things that clearly point out an intellectual inferiority complex based on the perceived notion that physicians reside in an elite social class (as evidenced by the questionaire we all filled out when signing up for the MCAT and also on the AAMC's website). Just one of the main and critically unjust issues here is that he used, again on numerous occasions, that "you doctor types are all alike". Can this individual whos job is not to interpret the law or decide who to enforce it on, but merely to enforce it period, be trusted to fairly serve a community without bias? What if he instead used the word "gay" or "black" or "Jew" or "woman" instead of doctor? Is it right to be more offended at another word? Not when it comes to the law or its enforcers. It is a boldfaced stereotype and like all stereotypes fans hatred or simply saves time (for those less interested in judiciously weighing the gravity of such biases). But if you dont get that by now, you will when it comes time for medical ethics. Thankyou all for your information with this matter and I appreciate your comments. I am going to go whine myself to sleep while I contemplate what habeas corpus means and the distance Americans have been removed from 'innocent until proven guilty' by clever juriprudence.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

"all you doctor types are alike".

Why would the cop say this when you haven't even started medical school yet?
Your story sounds fishy to me.

 

[spicedmanna]

I can resonate with your feelings about the issue, but I'd advise you not to make a mountain out of a mole hill. It's just a traffic ticket, not some kind of monumental event with great social underpinnings. Righteous indignation can become dangerous. Definitely seek justice, but don't go nuts. You may end up harming yourself further, if you take it too far.

If I recall correctly, reckless driving is a lot of points and a big fine. I doubt if it'll even show up on a bkgd check. Mine didn't even include a MVA/DMV check, just a criminal record check of the states in which I resided. Even if it did show up, I doubt if schools care about misdemeanor traffic violations; they are looking for felonies, things that would cause you trouble in obtaining a medical license, or would endanger patients.

Chill... Also, I am curious how this cop knew you were going to be a medical student. Did you throw that around? Because if you did, then it's not that suprising that he threw it back at you. Just saying...

 

[IronmanDO]

Yet another assumption: he went through my wallet which contains the following: state issued license, credit card, school ID for the university medical school that I'm doing prostate cancer research and developing myself as a professional whereby not time before starting school. Give it up. I know you guys arent stupid- that is why you are here. I myself am not so thick either that I would do or say things like that. I have the information I need about background searches and that is all i need, thankyou. You have only fringe details of what transpired: please, try not to make a diagnosis before you have all the information. If you want it, show me your J.D. and your fees for a retainer by PM. That is all.

 

[zenlike]

I'm sure you'll win the judge over with your personality.

 

[spicedmanna]

Yet another assumption: he went through my wallet which contains the following: state issued license, credit card, school ID for the university medical school that I'm doing prostate cancer research and developing myself as a professional whereby not time before starting school. Give it up. I know you guys arent stupid- that is why you are here. I myself am not so thick either that I would do or say things like that. I have the information I need about background searches and that is all i need, thankyou. You have only fringe details of what transpired: please, try not to make a diagnosis before you have all the information. If you want it, show me your J.D. and your fees for a retainer by PM. That is all.

Well, regardless of what transpired, you appear a bit defensive and definitely angry, to the point of being righteously indignant. That's what I was basically getting at. I'm not out to get you or make you look bad, or even to make assumptions about you. I don't know you and therefore don't care.

I simply pointed some things out that I saw between the lines. I'm not saying that I am accurate. This is a forum. If you post something on a forum, you can expect that people are going to give you their opinions. You can do whatever you want with them.

Anyway, my apologies, if I have in any way offended you. I wish you luck with everything. Don't sweat the ticket. Take a breath. This isn't the only time you are going to be treated this way in life. It doesn't make it okay, but how you handle yourself in these situations will have a profound effect.

 

[Jamers]

Yet another assumption: he went through my wallet which contains the following: state issued license, credit card, school ID for the university medical school that I'm doing prostate cancer research and developing myself as a professional whereby not time before starting school. Give it up. I know you guys arent stupid- that is why you are here. I myself am not so thick either that I would do or say things like that. I have the information I need about background searches and that is all i need, thankyou. You have only fringe details of what transpired: please, try not to make a diagnosis before you have all the information. If you want it, show me your J.D. and your fees for a retainer by PM. That is all.

You need to take a step back, read your posts and ask yourself, "am I coming off like a self righteous jackass or not?" The people who have commented on this thread have all said something about your attitude. This is what I was talking about. You beat the law by massaging its back not by blowing in its front door. Unless there is video of him doing all this, the cop wins and you lose. Furthermore, you enter into a court room with that attitude and the judge will EAT you alive. You will be cleaning the side of a highway with your toothbrush before you can say, "I want to be a physician!!!" I am sorry, but you come off sounding like you are a giddy teenager who just got his license; thus the reason for the negative responses. At either rate, I wish you luck in your future ventures. Good day.

 

[badapplestix]

I'm sure you'll win the judge over with your personality.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Man OP, sounds like you have all the answers. Why even ask the question if you were going to just abruptly shrug off any advice given? Sounds like you lost your cool in the situation (as you are doing here), especially if you ended up in cuffs during a traffic stop. If you ask a question, prepare for both good and annoying answers. However, your attitude on the boards will get you no where. Period.

 

[MossPoh]

Eh. I haven't mentioned anything about his attitude. I don't really care. The gist of the question was whether he should worry and then we went off on him about various details. Nearly everyone would be defensive to a point. But yea, question answered. Still don't think he should worry. What he does in court with his own time is his prerogative. Unless they decide to upgrade it to a felony or something.

 

[IronmanDO]

You all are exactly right. I am venting. However, I am well aware that the collected and well reasoned head wins in court. Thankyou for your very helpful posts. See you at the AOA meetings.

-IronmanDO

 

[KingTRITON7cs]

This guy was a motorcycle cop so I'm not exactly sure if it has video. I'm not whining about trying to get out of it (although I am confident that it will be reduced if not completely thrown out) so dont make yet another uneducated assumption about the incident or my original post. Furthermore, you as aspiring physicians should all take offense to what happened and what words were exchanged. This cop said on several occasions that "all you doctor types are alike". It is important to note that this is both before and after he put me in handcuffs and threw me to the ground. This guy said many, many other things that clearly point out an intellectual inferiority complex based on the perceived notion that physicians reside in an elite social class (as evidenced by the questionaire we all filled out when signing up for the MCAT and also on the AAMC's website). Just one of the main and critically unjust issues here is that he used, again on numerous occasions, that "you doctor types are all alike". Can this individual whos job is not to interpret the law or decide who to enforce it on, but merely to enforce it period, be trusted to fairly serve a community without bias? What if he instead used the word "gay" or "black" or "Jew" or "woman" instead of doctor? Is it right to be more offended at another word? Not when it comes to the law or its enforcers. It is a boldfaced stereotype and like all stereotypes fans hatred or simply saves time (for those less interested in judiciously weighing the gravity of such biases). But if you dont get that by now, you will when it comes time for medical ethics. Thankyou all for your information with this matter and I appreciate your comments. I am going to go whine myself to sleep while I contemplate what habeas corpus means and the distance Americans have been removed from 'innocent until proven guilty' by clever juriprudence.

This all sounds like a few episodes on HOUSE

 

[MaximusD]

I find this funny because you haven't learned yet: if there was no video, no amount of you whining will get you anything. It is your word against his and guess what, his word is worth 10x as much as yours. Put it this way, you will be fined and if you act like you are on here, you will be fined to the extreme. Your best bet is to sit there and shut up.

Depends on the DJ, really.