Best ways to get referrals from y'all?

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I'm a psychiatrist and potentially starting a private practice from 0. Would take major insurances, some Medicaid, no Medicare. Open to seeing pretty much anything, but would like to keep substance use disorders to a minimum. Happy to see functional problems, ADHD, autism evals, in addition to the basic depression and anxiety.

Do I just send letters to your offices? Should I stop by and talk to your receptionist and give out flyers/business cards? Just call and let the front desk staff know? What if you're in a big box shop rather than a smaller private clinic?

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I'm a psychiatrist and potentially starting a private practice from 0. Would take major insurances, some Medicaid, no Medicare. Open to seeing pretty much anything other than ASPD/long criminal histories, but would like to keep substance use disorders to a minimum. Happy to see eating disorders, functional problems, ADHD, autism evals, in addition to the basic depression and anxiety.

Do I just send letters to your offices? Should I stop by and talk to your receptionist and give out flyers/business cards? Just call and let the front desk staff know? What if you're in a big box shop rather than a smaller private clinic?

Definitely stop by and try to introduce yourself in person to the actual clinicians. I’m much more likely to refer to you if I can personally vouch for you as an overall nice person.

Do you have a residency program nearby? Calling the PD and offering to do a resident lecture will definitely generate some referrals.
 
If a psychiatrist said they could see my patients within 3 months and dropped off their card I could get them a dozen referrals by the end of the day. Substance use I can do all day long, but I can't even get my bipolar and refractory depression patients into psych.

Bonus points if I have some way to see your charts after the visit
 
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So basically just call and try to schedule a time to swing by? I imagine that's over the noon hour then?

I'll be on a tiny EMR that doesn't connect to EPIC so that is a concern. Particularly with bipolar meds and their monitoring and side effects. And really also eating disorders and lab work. I haven't found a good way around it. Seems most small psych private practices are set up for healthily people with minimal medical comorbidities unfortunately.
 
Is there a place in the country where it’s not a 3 month wait just to see a psych NP, fresh out of their rigorous online training?
Are there actually places in the country where outpatient psychiatrists exist?
You call any primary care clinic and tell them you want to stop by. Wait in the hall, shake a hand between patients, flash your MD/DO credentials, and notice the eyes of every hand you shake brighten at the thought of offloading 1/10 of their panel on you.
 
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I'm a psychiatrist and potentially starting a private practice from 0. Would take major insurances, some Medicaid, no Medicare. Open to seeing pretty much anything other than ASPD/long criminal histories, but would like to keep substance use disorders to a minimum. Happy to see eating disorders, functional problems, ADHD, autism evals, in addition to the basic depression and anxiety.

Do I just send letters to your offices? Should I stop by and talk to your receptionist and give out flyers/business cards? Just call and let the front desk staff know? What if you're in a big box shop rather than a smaller private clinic?
Heck. If I had a psychiatrist I knew who needed patients, I could make you rich in 6 months. You probably would only need to visit 2-3 FP's in your area to have a good panel started. Be sure you let your closest urgent care folks know that you need patients. They have the largest volume.
 
I'm a psychiatrist and potentially starting a private practice from 0. Would take major insurances, some Medicaid, no Medicare. Open to seeing pretty much anything other than ASPD/long criminal histories, but would like to keep substance use disorders to a minimum. Happy to see eating disorders, functional problems, ADHD, autism evals, in addition to the basic depression and anxiety.

Do I just send letters to your offices? Should I stop by and talk to your receptionist and give out flyers/business cards? Just call and let the front desk staff know? What if you're in a big box shop rather than a smaller private clinic?

probably take hospital call and see a bunch of inpatient referrals, clinic follow ups. i don't think you will have shortage of clients
 
Also need to know which insurance plans you are contracted with so we can refer our patients appropriately.
 
Stop by our clinic once and you’d have tons of referrals, meet my referral person and give her a piece of paper with insurance you take and how to refer.
 
If a psychiatrist said they could see my patients within 3 months and dropped off their card I could get them a dozen referrals by the end of the day. Substance use I can do all day long, but I can't even get my bipolar and refractory depression patients into psych.

Bonus points if I have some way to see your charts after the visit

Box of donuts for me and business cards will do the trick
 
Heck. If I had a psychiatrist I knew who needed patients, I could make you rich in 6 months. You probably would only need to visit 2-3 FP's in your area to have a good panel started. Be sure you let your closest urgent care folks know that you need patients. They have the largest volume.
Not true.
I'm a psychiatrist.
Was in a large metro for a few years. Big Box shops only clicked the Epic button refer to psych, their own internal, which was never fully staffed and patients would wait 6-12 months. The referral department wouldn't send out.
That only left the private practice FM/IM groups. Some were more cash heavy, and simply kept the patients themselves. Others were heavy medicaid/medicare clinics - and simply put, everything in Psychiatry is different, and medicare/medicaid in a small solo practice for psychiatry can be a biz killer. They take up too much time, too little pay to keep the office running, even with our lower overhead. So not taking medi/medi, drastically limits patient panel.
Then you have the ARNP Army and in my former location was saturated and led to stiff competition for the private insurance population.
Now when I was there, Cigna, UHC were a notable chunk of the market, and they paid less than medicare to psychiatry. I knew of other private practice non psychiatry specialists, and they were getting much better rates - but not psychiatry.

Moved to a rural BFE place, many of my patients dropped me, despite covid era telemedicine indoctrination, level of response/access/care didn't change. But psychologically they wanted someone closer. I slowly lost 2/3 of patients. Reaching out to the very few IM/FM in local area, they are so used to limited specialists and being the FM who does it all, they just don't refer. So things are slow going here, despite my ability to get people in within 1-2 weeks. More than 1/2 of my patients come by their own devices of reaching out and googling themselves or their PCP saying going find a psychiatrist. Despite having had referrals from that doc in the past, so they know I'm around.

Now if I were at an employed health/hospital job? I would have already been full, but that would have been with the full spectrum of psychiatry and medicare/medicaid severity - but life would have been hell without an actual department and support staff. Than if you do get the right support staff to manage the patient acuity appropriately, your run the risk at a small place (or even big places) running a loss budget, and now you are at the mercy of the admin rotations... next new admin will line item zoom in and cut. Then you're burned out and looking for greener pastures.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

And then, if you happen to be a psychiatrist who doesn't allow cannabis with stimulants, or actually tell people they don't have ADHD, or have people get OSA worked up first before ADHD, or taper/stop benzos, you will be hated by patients and a targeted for negative google reviews.

So everything isn't peachy over in Psychiatry land.
 
I'm in West Texas in a small city with 2 pysch hospitals and I still can't get people the help they need and have to beg to get people who come thru UC in quickly or I have to send them to the ER. So its very true where I live.
 
I'm in West Texas in a small city with 2 pysch hospitals and I still can't get people the help they need and have to beg to get people who come thru UC in quickly or I have to send them to the ER. So its very true where I live.
Same here, even our private psychiatrists are booked out 3-4 months.
 
Is there a place in the country where it’s not a 3 month wait just to see a psych NP, fresh out of their rigorous online training?
Are there actually places in the country where outpatient psychiatrists exist?
You call any primary care clinic and tell them you want to stop by. Wait in the hall, shake a hand between patients, flash your MD/DO credentials, and notice the eyes of every hand you shake brighten at the thought of offloading 1/10 of their panel on you.
We have outpatient psychiatry dept where I work in West Texas but they are overwhelmed. They are talking about opening up a walk-in psych urgent care here. I think they will be as busy as our regular urgent cares (we have 4 in town). Will see if that comes to light.
 
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