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JoelJoel84 said:
Who gives a ****; he’s not an elected politician, and none of this affects anyone in the slightest.
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It was a topic of discussion in the "Trump convicted. What now?" thread. Most felt he would not be convicted. This thread was sort of tongue-in-cheek. I wonder if he was not the son of POTUS, if he would have been charged. If you don't give a s***, that's fine. Some of us do. Just ignore the thread and go about your day...
 
JoelJoel84 said:
It’s nothing personal, just that this board is slowly evolving into a Newsmax / FoxNews comment section with each post.
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It’s probably closely to 60-40 in favor of liberals on this message board

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It's good he was found guilty.

Confirms the laptop was legitimate. It was bizarre how the media went out of their way to try to paint it as some Russian based hoax.

I'm more interested in his tax fraud case. How a crackhead/meth head was able to generate enough income to owe over a million dollars will be interesting. We all know it was related to some corrupt dealings using his dad.
 
anonperson said:
It's good he was found guilty.

Confirms the laptop was legitimate. It was bizarre how the media went out of their way to try to paint it as some Russian based hoax.

I'm more interested in his tax fraud case. How a crackhead/meth head was able to generate enough income to owe over a million dollars will be interesting. We all know it was related to some corrupt dealings using his dad.
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Do we all know? You state this as fact, but what evidence do you have?
 
anonperson said:
It's good he was found guilty.

Confirms the laptop was legitimate. It was bizarre how the media went out of their way to try to paint it as some Russian based hoax.

I'm more interested in his tax fraud case. How a crackhead/meth head was able to generate enough income to owe over a million dollars will be interesting. We all know it was related to some corrupt dealings using his dad.
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Maybe he also ran a scam charity and scam real estate teaching courses. Oh wait, wrong guy.
 
Like Trump once said, it’s a travesty that we use the courts to persecute political opponents. That and if he wants to ‘lock them up’, he needs to look in a mirror.
 
Our legal system is a dysfunctional travesty, more so than healthcare and higher education
 
What happened with Trump and Biden are mostly political. In no way would an ordinary citizen go to trial over this. I could go through everyone's taxes in the past 5 years and prosecute you for fraud. Trust me, I could.

Dems opened a can of worms with this and they have themselves to blame moving forward. Bill Clinton and Hillary would be locked up in this political environment.
 
emergentmd said:
What happened with Trump and Biden are mostly political. In no way would an ordinary citizen go to trial over this. I could go through everyone's taxes in the past 5 years and prosecute you for fraud. Trust me, I could.

Dems opened a can of worms with this and they have themselves to blame moving forward. Bill Clinton and Hillary would be locked up in this political environment.
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Totally agree.

I’m definitely worry if I were fannis willis or the manhattan DA. If trump gets elected. Trump will send the feds after all their family members for any stupid minor tax fraud.

We all agree he’s crazy in this mindset.

And it will all be legal.
 
emergentmd said:
What happened with Trump and Biden are mostly political. In no way would an ordinary citizen go to trial over this. I could go through everyone's taxes in the past 5 years and prosecute you for fraud. Trust me, I could.
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I don’t trust you and no you couldn’t.
 
emergentmd said:
What happened with Trump and Biden are mostly political. In no way would an ordinary citizen go to trial over this. I could go through everyone's taxes in the past 5 years and prosecute you for fraud. Trust me, I could.

Dems opened a can of worms with this and they have themselves to blame moving forward. Bill Clinton and Hillary would be locked up in this political environment.
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No you couldn’t. Most people take the standard deduction with W2 income.

We aren’t deducing hush money paid to cover up a one night stand with a porn star.
 
aneftp said:
Totally agree.

I’m definitely worry if I were fannis willis or the manhattan DA. If trump gets elected. Trump will send the feds after all their family members for any stupid minor tax fraud.

We all agree he’s crazy in this mindset.

And it will all be legal.
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The Republicans have been trying to find cases against Obama, Hillary, Biden for years They never found anything.

Trump managed to get 3 cases, one felony conviction, multiple conviction of fraud related to his businesses. And his two most serious cases are still pending.

I don't think the Dems are particularly worried.
 
UscGhost said:
The Republicans have been trying to find cases against Obama, Hillary, Biden for years They never found anything.

Trump managed to get 3 cases, one felony conviction, multiple conviction of fraud related to his businesses. And his two most serious cases are still pending.

I don't think the Dems are particularly worried.
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This is different. Going after family members.

It’s personal.

Anyone who has crossed Trump will feel the heat now he’s actually been prosecuted and found guilty. It used to be a lot of shenanigans and threats. But once you cross the line with the indictments and trial and conviction. It becomes vindictive warpath by Trump if he gets back into power.

It’s not the Republicans. It will be Trump.
 
I don't really understand why democrats are defending Hunter Biden at all. He's not up for election and by all accounts has generally not been a great person. I also 100% support close investigation of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden's business dealings, why wouldn't I? Just because I voted for Joe Biden doesn't mean I love everything about him and it definitely doesn't mean I want to cover any misdeeds. Transparency is a good thing for all.

I think America overall would be better off if we discouraged identifying with politicians.
 
<(^_^)> said:
I don't really understand why democrats are defending Hunter Biden at all. He's not up for election and by all accounts has generally not been a great person. I also 100% support close investigation of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden's business dealings, why wouldn't I? Just because I voted for Joe Biden doesn't mean I love everything about him and it definitely doesn't mean I want to cover any misdeeds. Transparency is a good thing for all.

I think America overall would be better off if we discouraged identifying with politicians.
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I don’t think they really are. I think people empathize having family members with addiction issues. Hunter clearly has pretty significant problems. It’s a much sadder case then the Trump prosecution.
 
UscGhost said:
Maybe he also ran a scam charity and scam real estate teaching courses. Oh wait, wrong guy.
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The tax case in September will mirror Trump.

Making illegal business tax deductions for hookers luxury non business spending.

Like some others have stated. This is opening up a can of worms for many small business and their tax reporting. Hunter Biden attorneys have even stated if he was an ordinary citizen. These minor tax deductions would not even be prosecuted.
 
emergentmd said:
I could go through everyone's taxes in the past 5 years and prosecute you for fraud. Trust me, I could.
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This is absolute nonsense. My taxes are clean as a whistle.

I think you probably cheat on yours (like aneftp)🤣 and wrongly assume everyone else does too.
 
Arch Guillotti said:
This is absolute nonsense. My taxes are clean as a whistle.

I think you probably cheat on yours (like aneftp)🤣 and wrongly assume everyone else does too.
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I'm no where close to as bad as others. You got other 1099 docs and crna much worst than me. One doc even has his business pay a 9% interest loan (which he writes off) to off set his alimony payments to his ex wife.

Crna employs his dementia 85 year old mother and his wife (who's also a crna). Incorporated through a Delaware business. Runs everything through his mid South farm. All the while taking a tax free $4000 (current) a month living stipend as 1099 locums the past 10 years even though his primary home is 40 miles away (because he uses his Kentucky farm as his address).

I play checkers with my tax deductions compared to these other folks. Most of my tax deductions are for expensive electronics, CME travel, Sec 179 and normal 20/25% SEP/Solo 401K deductions which I have receipts for. No hookers for me on my tax deduction, unlike Trump and Hunter Biden.
 
aneftp said:
This is different. Going after family members.

It’s personal.

Anyone who has crossed Trump will feel the heat now he’s actually been prosecuted and found guilty. It used to be a lot of shenanigans and threats. But once you cross the line with the indictments and trial and conviction. It becomes vindictive warpath by Trump if he gets back into power.

It’s not the Republicans. It will be Trump.
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Probably. Which is generally the path taken by most dictators.

So on one hand, you have Biden who has avoided any appearance of undue influence over the justice system, even to the point of his son being convicted. Meanwhile, Trump, who has actually been convicted of crimes is threatening to weaponize the justice system despite the fact that there is no evidence of any illegal activity by his opponents.

Pretty crazy that the supposed party of law and order is supporting this type of leader.
 
UscGhost said:
Probably. Which is generally the path taken by most dictators.

So on one hand, you have Biden who has avoided any appearance of undue influence over the justice system, even to the point of his son being convicted. Meanwhile, Trump, who has actually been convicted of crimes is threatening to weaponize the justice system despite the fact that there is no evidence of any illegal activity by his opponents.

Pretty crazy that the supposed party of law and order is supporting this type of leader.
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There is no party of law. It's all cronyism. Just different degrees of cheating (Morally and legally).

This is what I do with my voting ballot. I primarily vote Republican but it's usually 80/20 Repub vs Dems. I'm in Florida and will not vote for Rick Scott this year. So many think I"m this hard core Republican, but I'm not.
 
ucladoc2b said:
No you couldn’t. Most people take the standard deduction with W2 income.

We aren’t deducing hush money paid to cover up a one night stand with a porn star.
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Hush money is not the point. The point is, if the fed wants to go after you, they will find something. If you don't think so, they could. many docs have rental properties, business income, vacation homes, etc. As a prosecutor, I could find some deduction that was illegal and prove it. Mistake maybe, but that doesn't even matter.
 
Arch Guillotti said:
This is absolute nonsense. My taxes are clean as a whistle.

I think you probably cheat on yours (like aneftp)🤣 and wrongly assume everyone else does too.
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Just by you telling me this, I know you are ignorant. Click the wrong turbo tax button? Have close family members? Own anything other than straight W2 and taking standard deductions and if the IRS wants to go after you, you will not be able to prove all the deductions.
 
emergentmd said:
Just by you telling me this, I know you are ignorant. Click the wrong turbo tax button? Have close family members? Own anything other than straight W2 and taking standard deductions and if the IRS wants to go after you, you will not be able to prove all the deductions.
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Sure!
 
emergentmd said:
Hush money is not the point. The point is, if the fed wants to go after you, they will find something. If you don't think so, they could. many docs have rental properties, business income, vacation homes, etc. As a prosecutor, I could find some deduction that was illegal and prove it. Mistake maybe, but that doesn't even matter.
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Yes. My standard deduction is certainly cheating the system. I don’t have any deductions to make anything else worthwhile.

Good luck.
 
I would bet a lot of physicians who have second homes rent them out periodically and treat the property as a business, but end up using the property more than the federal maximum 14 days. Tough to enforce, I suppose, but some thing that many of us would easily violate.
 
Beeftenderloin said:
Like everyone else in the GOP, all projection. Every accusation is an admission.
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U mean all the dems as well. U really think John “I registered my yatch in another cheaper state” Kerry and similar democrats are any better when the lie?

When will people realize the Dems and Repubs play on the same team. That’s to protect the special interest. Aka. Those with a lot of money

If the Dems want to codified abortion and make it legal nationwide they have the majority. They can do it. All they have to do pass the law and nothing the Supreme Court can do. But they don’t want risk alienating voters especially moderate voters.

And no. You don’t need 60 senate votes to push the law through the senate filibuster. The democrats have the majority in the senate and can make rule changes to the filibuster if they want to. They just don’t want to. So it’s just a lot of posturing. The Supreme Court didn’t ban abortion. They left it to the states to decide. But congress can pass a national law and codify the legality of abortion.

Those politicians dems and republicans just out to protect their own interests not the common people.
 
aneftp said:
If the Dems want to codified abortion and make it legal nationwide they have the majority. They can do it. All they have to do pass the law and nothing the Supreme Court can do. But they don’t want risk alienating voters especially moderate voters.

And no. You don’t need 60 senate votes to push the law through the senate filibuster. The democrats have the majority in the senate and can make rule changes to the filibuster if they want to. They just don’t want to. So it’s just a lot of posturing. The Supreme Court didn’t ban abortion. They left it to the states to decide. But congress can pass a national law and codify the legality of abortion.

Those politicians dems and republicans just out to protect their own interests not the common people.
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Bills have to pass both the House and the Senate in order for the president to sign it into law….
 
emergentmd said:
Just by you telling me this, I know you are ignorant. Click the wrong turbo tax button? Have close family members? Own anything other than straight W2 and taking standard deductions and if the IRS wants to go after you, you will not be able to prove all the deductions.
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Yea, so you pay the taxes and a small fine and go about your day.

It's not that big of a deal unless it's egregious. Just look at Trump, he's taking millions on bogus deductions and he isn't in jail
 
Agast said:
Bills have to pass both the House and the Senate in order for the president to sign it into law….
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Correct. Dems have the votes and the presidency.
The dems house voted to codify abortion making it legal by party line vote in 2022. The bill died in the senate despite dems having the majority. They claim it died due to filibuster. But dems can change senate rules if they don’t want to. They just can’t afford to anger moderate dems senators and expose them to critical votes so won’t change the senate rules for filibuster to protect those moderate democrats from even having to vote on abortion.

Very simple.

It’s the same thing when trump was president in 2017 and republicans had votes in house and senate.

If they really wanted to ram it through the senate they can…by changing the filibuster rule.
 
<(^_^)> said:
I don't really understand why democrats are defending Hunter Biden at all. He's not up for election and by all accounts has generally not been a great person. I also 100% support close investigation of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden's business dealings, why wouldn't I? Just because I voted for Joe Biden doesn't mean I love everything about him and it definitely doesn't mean I want to cover any misdeeds. Transparency is a good thing for all.

I think America overall would be better off if we discouraged identifying with politicians.
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I am not defending him. It's clear he's guilty, and I don't think anyone is questioning that. Was this an overzealous prosecution by a special prosecutor Trump appointed? Probably. Lying on a federal background check application for firearms is rarely prosecuted by itself. It's normally added on to other charges. In my opinion, it's a waste of money and resources.
 
aneftp said:
I'm no where close to as bad as others. You got other 1099 docs and crna much worst than me. One doc even has his business pay a 9% interest loan (which he writes off) to off set his alimony payments to his ex wife.

Crna employs his dementia 85 year old mother and his wife (who's also a crna). Incorporated through a Delaware business. Runs everything through his mid South farm. All the while taking a tax free $4000 (current) a month living stipend as 1099 locums the past 10 years even though his primary home is 40 miles away (because he uses his Kentucky farm as his address).

I play checkers with my tax deductions compared to these other folks. Most of my tax deductions are for expensive electronics, CME travel, Sec 179 and normal 20/25% SEP/Solo 401K deductions which I have receipts for. No hookers for me on my tax deduction, unlike Trump and Hunter Biden.
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IRS does not allow the same locums address to be used over 12 months.
 
emergentmd said:
Hush money is not the point. The point is, if the fed wants to go after you, they will find something. If you don't think so, they could. many docs have rental properties, business income, vacation homes, etc. As a prosecutor, I could find some deduction that was illegal and prove it. Mistake maybe, but that doesn't even matter.
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The feds didn't go after Trump for tax fraud... NY state prosecuted him.
 
Another useless thread. Dems thinking their party does no wrong and they are clean as a whistle. They do not see their leaders are just as dirty as republicans but what they do are virtuous. Trump absolutely is guilty but to think Clinton was clean just shows ignorace.

Stepping out of this thread b/c it goes down the same path as every other political threads where my side doing the same is not bad because they are my guys. I am looking at you Pelosi.
 
JoelJoel84 said:
It’s nothing personal, just that this board is slowly evolving into a Newsmax / FoxNews comment section with each post.
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This board is majority libs who swarm like a pack of flies over a dead fish when anything pro right comes up. This statement alone shows me how blind the left is.

I suggest moderators push this to the political forum where it belongs and can die.
 
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emergentmd said:
Another useless thread. Dems thinking their party does no wrong and they are clean as a whistle. They do not see their leaders are just as dirty as republicans but what they do are virtuous. Trump absolutely is guilty but to think Clinton was clean just shows ignorace.

Stepping out of this thread b/c it goes down the same path as every other political threads where my side doing the same is not bad because they are my guys. I am looking at you Pelosi.
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Lol that's pretty funny considering the Biden administration is either investigating or prosecuting 4 Democrat politicians right now. It's the Republican who are protective of their own who break the law.
 
emergentmd said:
This board is majority libs who swarm like a pack of flies over a dead fish when anything pro right comes up. This statement alone shows me how blind the left is.

I suggest moderators push this to the political forum where it belongs and can die.
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Enough with the pearl clutching.

You are a visitor here. You do not have to participate or even read the threads if you don’t like them.

Off topics are frequently here for better or worse over the years because we tolerate it. They do get moved when they go too far off the rails though.

You couldn’t be more wrong about the political tenor of this forum.
 
<(^_^)> said:
I don't really understand why democrats are defending Hunter Biden at all. He's not up for election and by all accounts has generally not been a great person. I also 100% support close investigation of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden's business dealings, why wouldn't I? Just because I voted for Joe Biden doesn't mean I love everything about him and it definitely doesn't mean I want to cover any misdeeds. Transparency is a good thing for all.

I think America overall would be better off if we discouraged identifying with politicians.
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Lots of people deny evil exists, or worse. That’s why people defend guys like Hunter.
 
ucladoc2b said:
I don’t think they really are. I think people empathize having family members with addiction issues. Hunter clearly has pretty significant problems. It’s a much sadder case then the Trump prosecution.
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Empathize all you want about the addiction issues. But when the Dems are the party of gun control, and Hunter flat out lies on his gun purchase application, I have little sympathy.
 
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psycho-matic said:
Lying on a federal background check application for firearms is rarely prosecuted by itself.
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It should be.

You might be surprised to hear that gun rights advocates have long argued that this should be aggressively pursued and prosecuted. In fact one of our arguments against additional gun control legislation is that the police and prosecutors aren't enforcing the laws we have, and going after straw purchases and other falsified attempts to purchase guns.

emergentmd said:
This board is majority libs who swarm like a pack of flies over a dead fish when anything pro right comes up. This statement alone shows me how blind the left is.
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LOL, that's easily the fourth most ridiculous thing written in this thread full of ridiculousness.

emergentmd said:
I suggest moderators push this to the political forum where it belongs and can die.
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Opinion noted. 🙂

GassYous said:
What happened to the 2nd amendment? Where is the NRA???
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As I mentioned above, the NRA wants more prosecutions like this one. They and we (gun owners) don't want prohibited people to skate away after illegally attempting to buy guns.
 
emergentmd said:
This board is majority libs who swarm like a pack of flies over a dead fish when anything pro right comes up. This statement alone shows me how blind the left is.

I suggest moderators push this to the political forum where it belongs and can die.
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In order to adamantly prove that you are wrong in your assessment of behavior on this board, they swooped in and did exactly as you described. Even referred to you as a visitor. Overall, very welcoming and open to differences of opinion.
 
caligas said:
Trump: adjudicated rapist, failed election thief, convicted felon.

Biden: no evidence of legal wrongdoing, principled enough to allow his own DOJ to convinct his son.
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caligas said:
Trump: adjudicated rapist, failed election thief, convicted felon.

Biden: no evidence of legal wrongdoing, principled enough to allow his own DOJ to convinct his son.
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I really don't think this matters all that much. I posted in the Trump is convicted thread that Biden will pardon Hunter as soon as it doesn't damage him politically. Either before the transition if he loses or at his leisure should he win. What father will allow his son to go to jail or carry a felony conviction if he could intervene? Although Biden has publicly stated he would not pardon Hunter, we know Joe is prone to.....tell yarns.
 
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