Biden Out of Race

[arkgal]

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AZ 😍😊

I have said that at least 5 times in this thread as a republican myself. My circle of friends/family are mostly republicans. Some of the things these people would say are horrifying. Everyone knows but people are still pretending. No matter what Trump does, he will always have an approval rating > 40%.

You continue to vote R. You are part of the problem.

 

[Gern Blansten]

Have not heard this. If true, it seems horrible.

Finally read about this. It’s just some unknown college kids acting like idiots? Is there more to the story?

 

[Southpaw]

reading Schumer is backing Janet Mills over Graham Platner in Maine. Schumer is a problem and it’s past time for him to go. Same for Pelosi. Really want to see a real progressive agenda not funded by AIPAC take off. Go Platner. Go Bernie.

 

[rowsdower88]

Finally read about this. It’s just some unknown college kids acting like idiots? Is there more to the story?

One person works in the Trump administration and several others have prominent titles in the Young Republican movement and with other Republican politicians. The future of the party's flunkies, bureaucrats, campaign managers...

They're unknowns now but they were the future of the party apparatus.

"Hunter Hendrix, who until recently worked as a communications assistant for Kansas Attorney General Kris Kobach, said he was drawn to Missouri’s Young Republicans because “Missouri doesn’t like f*gs.”

"When Arizona Young Republicans chair Luke Mosiman casually mentioned watching an NBA game, Peter Giunta, chair of the Kansas chapter, replied, “I’d go to the zoo if I wanted to watch monkey play ball.” Giunta went on to refer to Black people as “the watermelon people” and praise Republicans who supported slavery."

"Peter Giunta ...chief of staff to New York Assembly member Michael Reilly..."

I will say that I'm pleasantly surprised by the backlash so far:

"The Young Republican National Federation called on everyone involved in the chat to “immediately resign from all positions” within the organization. And in Kansas, the state chapter was dissolved on Tuesday, just hours after Politico’s reporting came out."

We'll see if these names pop up again later. JD Vance already seems keen to rehabilitate their images.

I don't really expect you to think this is a big deal, but it does bother a good number of people.

 

[Chrish]

reading Schumer is backing Janet Mills over Graham Platner in Maine. Schumer is a problem and it’s past time for him to go. Same for Pelosi. Really want to see a real progressive agenda not funded by AIPAC take off. Go Platner. Go Bernie.

El-Sayed in Michigan!

 

[Chrish]

Supreme Court is about to gut the section 2 of voting rights act which can land republicans 12 more House seats in 2026.

If this is gutted (which is near certain at this point), we might be headed toward 1950-1980 style one party dominance in both chambers for decades.

This is existential threat for Dems.

 

[chessknt]

If this is gutted (which is near certain at this point), we might be headed toward 1950-1980 style one party dominance in both chambers for decades.

This is existential threat for Dems.

They can't do anything, none of us can do except get out before they close the exits. They will lead us to ruin but not before blaming it on every outgroup first.

 

[circleK]

Finally read about this. It’s just some unknown college kids acting like idiots? Is there more to the story?

These were not “unknown college kids” 🙄
That you, JD?

 

[Robotic Wis-Hipple]

Trump just said the Biden FBI put agents in the Jan 6th riot.

How any of you can possibly keep defending this guy as cognitively fit for office is beyond me.

Pgg, I respect the hell out of you based on everything I’ve ever seen you post in this forum. Both your academic/medicine related postings and your political ones are always so well thought out and without undue emotional volatility.

I know you’re a staunch Supreme Court and democracy guy, but I don’t know how the current Supreme Court can be respected these days. To me, admittedly way less educated in all that has been happening for the last 20yrs within this court, they appear to be blatant political puppets actively working on regressive crumbling of case law for the current Right wing goals. And yes, im aware that each “side” goes out of their way to try to stack the deck but im so sick of the “well you guys do it too or you guys did something similar x years ago” arguments that have us squabbling over whose crimes are worse. This current generation feels very very different. I’m hoping you can talk some hope into me.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Finally read about this. It’s just some unknown college kids acting like idiots? Is there more to the story?

The people in the group chats appear to be between the ages of 24 and 35...

 

[Gern Blansten]

That you, JD?

You may have me confused with someone else. My name is not JD.

 

[Southpaw]

Vance on Young Republicans’ chat: ‘That’s what kids do’

Vice President Vance said Wednesday he did not want the racist remarks in the explosive Young Republicans group chat to ruin the participants’ lives, dismissing them as “stupid” jokes made by “kids.” In an interview on “The Charlie Kirk Show” — which is now hosted by allies of the late...

www.yahoo.com

Lil Smokey stretching real hard to defend bigoted and hateful comments by college educated mature adults on the right. He forgot to blame the radical left.

 

[chessknt]

Vance on Young Republicans’ chat: ‘That’s what kids do’

Vice President Vance said Wednesday he did not want the racist remarks in the explosive Young Republicans group chat to ruin the participants’ lives, dismissing them as “stupid” jokes made by “kids.” In an interview on “The Charlie Kirk Show” — which is now hosted by allies of the late...

www.yahoo.com

Lil Smokey stretching real hard to defend bigoted and hateful comments by college educated mature adults on the right. He forgot to blame the radical left.

Indeed. Any mention of Kirk outside of a glowingly positive context is grounds for cancellation and immediate termination but these texts are just adults praising Hitler as I am sure we all have and we need to give them a pass.

 

[pgg]

Pgg, I respect the hell out of you based on everything I’ve ever seen you post in this forum. Both your academic/medicine related postings and your political ones are always so well thought out and without undue emotional volatility.

I know you’re a staunch Supreme Court and democracy guy, but I don’t know how the current Supreme Court can be respected these days. To me, admittedly way less educated in all that has been happening for the last 20yrs within this court, they appear to be blatant political puppets actively working on regressive crumbling of case law for the current Right wing goals. And yes, im aware that each “side” goes out of their way to try to stack the deck but im so sick of the “well you guys do it too or you guys did something similar x years ago” arguments that have us squabbling over whose crimes are worse. This current generation feels very very different. I’m hoping you can talk some hope into me.

In the past I've mostly agreed with the conservative Justices' reasoning, even if I disliked the outcome (eg Citizens United, Dobbs).

If SCOTUS guts the Voting Rights Act I'll read their opinion, but I don't think I'll be able to defend it. From what I've read of the arguments, I don't know how they'd reason themselves into it beyond some lame statesrights argument.

The Justices sure have become more partisan.

I also think the people bringing cases before the court have gotten a LOT more savvy and strategic about picking their test cases and finding the right wedge to drive into arguments. Pre Gore/Bush it seems people saw something they perceived to be an injustice, filed a case, and went to court. National lobbies to pick test cases in the "right" district court is new. (Or maybe I'm just misremembering some imagined good ol' days.)

Beyond that, the Justices are increasingly choosing to accept or ignore cases unlikely to yield the desired result. This is especially apparent with 2A cases - Heller was 2008, and McDonald (essentially the same case & a logical extension of Heller) followed in 2010, then it was TWELVE more years until Bruen in 2022. That's not because there weren't cases brought between 2010 and 2022, but rather because of the Justices' deliberate (in)action (1) kept weaker cases out and (2) delayed the issue until a conservative majority could materialize.

I was glad for a late win in Bruen as opposed to an early loss in a dozen similar cases, but it bothers me that the courts are being gamed this way, especially with the judges being open participants in the game.

I would favor reform that placed term limits, maybe ideally with a rotation that had a new appointment every 2 years, in non-election years, so presidents would appoint two during their term.

While this hyperpartisanship is here to stay - largely fueled by social media algorithms feeding 24/7 ragebait to everyone - I do think the temperature will turn down when Trump is gone. There's no one like him out there and cults don't have heirs.

 

[Gern Blansten]

...cults don't have heirs.

Then, please explain this.

**Edit-I may have misunderstood.

 

[arkgal]

Yet another critic of Trump facing federal charges: Bolton, Trump's ex-national security adviser. If the charges are legit, the irony here can't be escaped. Trump avoided charges for the exact same charge by getting elected for a second term. You can't make that up.

Ex-national security adviser Bolton charged with mishandling classified information - Ex-national security adviser Bolton charged with mishandling classified information

 

[GravelRider]

In the past I've mostly agreed with the conservative Justices' reasoning, even if I disliked the outcome (eg Citizens United, Dobbs).

If SCOTUS guts the Voting Rights Act I'll read their opinion, but I don't think I'll be able to defend it. From what I've read of the arguments, I don't know how they'd reason themselves into it beyond some lame statesrights argument.

The Justices sure have become more partisan.

I also think the people bringing cases before the court have gotten a LOT more savvy and strategic about picking their test cases and finding the right wedge to drive into arguments. Pre Gore/Bush it seems people saw something they perceived to be an injustice, filed a case, and went to court. National lobbies to pick test cases in the "right" district court is new. (Or maybe I'm just misremembering some imagined good ol' days.)

Beyond that, the Justices are increasingly choosing to accept or ignore cases unlikely to yield the desired result. This is especially apparent with 2A cases - Heller was 2008, and McDonald (essentially the same case & a logical extension of Heller) followed in 2010, then it was TWELVE more years until Bruen in 2022. That's not because there weren't cases brought between 2010 and 2022, but rather because of the Justices' deliberate (in)action (1) kept weaker cases out and (2) delayed the issue until a conservative majority could materialize.

I was glad for a late win in Bruen as opposed to an early loss in a dozen similar cases, but it bothers me that the courts are being gamed this way, especially with the judges being open participants in the game.

I would favor reform that placed term limits, maybe ideally with a rotation that had a new appointment every 2 years, in non-election years, so presidents would appoint two during their term.

While this hyperpartisanship is here to stay - largely fueled by social media algorithms feeding 24/7 ragebait to everyone - I do think the temperature will turn down when Trump is gone. There's no one like him out there and cults don't have heirs.

I disagree. I think we’ll see something much worse than Trump. What or who that is, I can’t predict, but the online toxicity is starting to spill out into the real world. As we’ve seen with the recent Hitler-loving Young Republicans, the losers who used to populate the 4-Chan message boards are being thrust into positions of influence and power. It used to be things like “I love Hitler” was seen on these weirdo message boards with anonymous losers saying them. Now these incels have either found their way into positions of influence or otherwise mainstream people are adopting these mindsets as a way to garner political power. Either way, the hatred, toxicity, and general antisocial behavior is becoming mainstream. We have obviously seen it manifest as assassinations and now as people saying disgusting things in a group chat. It’s not a left or right problem…it’s an internet problem.

Will there be someone as charismatic as Trump to unite these forces? Probably not. But no one has to. A created, uncharismatic puppet like JD Vance is all that is needed. The Democratic brand image is absolutely toxic right now and the right wing media sphere has spent decades building an apparatus that can almost guarantee political dominance for decades to come. Short of a black swan event like a war, economic meltdown, or pandemic, our civilization will continue its descent into dystopia at the hands of incel neck beards that love Hitler.

 

[Chrish]

People seriously overestimate Vance. Guy has a charisma of a boiled potato and there is something off about him.

I don’t see him carrying a torch. I think republicans will face similar drought that Dems have faced in post-Obama years.

 

[Splenda88]

I disagree. I think we’ll see something much worse than Trump. What or who that is, I can’t predict, but the online toxicity is starting to spill out into the real world. As we’ve seen with the recent Hitler-loving Young Republicans, the losers who used to populate the 4-Chan message boards are being thrust into positions of influence and power. It used to be things like “I love Hitler” was seen on these weirdo message boards with anonymous losers saying them. Now these incels have either found their way into positions of influence or otherwise mainstream people are adopting these mindsets as a way to garner political power. Either way, the hatred, toxicity, and general antisocial behavior is becoming mainstream. We have obviously seen it manifest as assassinations and now as people saying disgusting things in a group chat. It’s not a left or right problem…it’s an internet problem.

Will there be someone as charismatic as Trump to unite these forces? Probably not. But no one has to. A created, uncharismatic puppet like JD Vance is all that is needed. The Democratic brand image is absolutely toxic right now and the right wing media sphere has spent decades building an apparatus that can almost guarantee political dominance for decades to come. Short of a black swan event like a war, economic meltdown, or pandemic, our civilization will continue its descent into dystopia at the hands of incel neck beards that love Hitler.

Swastika spotted in Republican congressman's office prompts Capitol Police investigation

The U.S. Capitol Police opened an investigation after a swastika was spotted inside Republican Rep Dave Taylor's office on Oct. 14.

www.yahoo.com

 

[biglurker]

So non-citizens really were keeping homes unaffordable for citizens and driving up housing inflation. Wow.

 

[rowsdower88]

So non-citizens really were keeping homes unaffordable for citizens and driving up housing inflation. Wow.

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The percentage of FHA loan locks going to US citizens or permanent residents went from 94% to 99%.

This is a big change for visa holders, I'm less convinced it will make a big different for US citizens or mortgage rates generally. This graph doesn't represent housing affordability or inflation.

 

[rowsdower88]

Immigration rights activist says federal agent rammed his truck in Oxnard

A spontaneous protest against immigration agents broke out after a U.S. citizen was taken into custody by federal officials. He has since been released and is speaking to Eyewitness News.

abc7.com

ICE allegedly committing vehicular assault on US citizens now. We'll see if more information comes out, but the video certainly looks bad.

The victim was an immigration rights activist monitoring ICE activity.

"At one point, the police department did say that they were gonna hand me over to the agents, and that's where I kind of got a little nervous, because they were the same dudes that just rammed into the car and were really aggressive. So once they put me in cuffs and put me in the car, I requested to go to the hospital to get checked out because I already had a headache at that point. My neck was sore, and we were there for a while. And after that, they brought me here, they processed me, and they released me on pending charges," Martinez said. "I was shocked to be released so fast, but also, at the same time, from the beginning, I knew that I did nothing wrong."

Martinez says he was not told what those charges might be, if any are even filed.