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I do have to give some credit to Trump and Hegseth, and of course the military forces that did the work. It appears this went off with perfect OPSEC including some clever diversion/decoy work. No WhatsApp or Signal chats with reporters. Complete surprise, no friendly losses, and (so far it appears) objectives were actually met.

While I still question the wisdom of bombing Iran in the first place, and I suspect it's futile in the long run, I'm impressed with the execution.

I wouldn't give credit to Trump here.

Apparently the reason they did the diversionary/decoy work was because of Trump's tweets.

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Not suggesting that at all. I am suggesting that someone with more expertise in that realm might do a better job in helping them.
Fair enough

Sometimes it's hard to tell when people want to help LGBT people, if the help they mean is the kind of help they (LGBT people) actually want or need.
 
I wouldn't give credit to Trump here.

Apparently the reason they did the diversionary/decoy work was because of Trump's tweets.
I try pretty hard not to reflexively crap on everything Trump says or does. He's a reckless dangerous bozo, but in this case his team seems to have actually done competent work. Despite him, perhaps. But that's something.
 
Against LGBTQ issues in general, illegal immigration, abortion etc...

I am also fiscally conservative but I must admit my party is worse than the dems, but I don't care because I am a physician, and should be ok regardless whatever fiscal mess they tend to cause.
Just what LGTBQ issues are you against?
 
I am against transgender men using women bathroom. They should not be allowed to compete against women in sports. I don't think these are oppression and deprivation of services.
If you think sports and bathrooms are the issues, you've fallen for the MAGA propaganda. Preventing trans people from playing in sports and trans women from using the women's restrooms were never end goals for the Republicans. They don't care about that, but they want you to think they are significant issues. They had no intention of stopping there, as recent events have shown. Those bills were introduced to gain public acceptance and slowly erode trans rights. They didn't intend to stop with trans youth bans, although they have systematically targeted trans youth rights. This is a form of oppression. Their ultimate goal is to erase transgender people from existence (not literally, but as a group). They won't stop until adult access to adult transgender care has been removed and rights as a protected class have been extinguished. If that's not oppression, then what is?

The net effect of anti-trans youth care laws passed by states in the US is an increase in suicide attempts of up to 72%. Is that the kind of oppression you support?

 
If I were a single w2 anesthesiologist or any single person making more than 225k AGI. Due to the tax laws. I’d like to marry my dog for the lgbtq tax reasons. I know i sound weird. But tax laws discriminate against singles as well.
Think about it. Two people together is cheaper yet the government gives them a better tax rate than one person. Makes no sense especially at tax brackets above 225k ish agi.

There is discrimination everywhere. It’s all perspective how we look at things.
 
Uh huh, take the easy way out.
Could be like me and keep the discussion going and going. I can take this one forever. And I do especially about certain topics.

Than people keep saying I keep deflecting cause they know I’m making my points but refusing to acknowledge I am correct. No one wants to give up ideology. Lines in sand are drawn.
 
If I were a single w2 anesthesiologist or any single person making more than 225k AGI. Due to the tax laws. I’d like to marry my dog for the lgbtq tax reasons.

WTF is wrong with you?

I know i sound weird.

No - you sound like a dingus.
 
If I were a single w2 anesthesiologist or any single person making more than 225k AGI. Due to the tax laws. I’d like to marry my dog for the lgbtq tax reasons. I know i sound weird. But tax laws discriminate against singles as well.
Think about it. Two people together is cheaper yet the government gives them a better tax rate than one person. Makes no sense especially at tax brackets above 225k ish agi.

There is discrimination everywhere. It’s all perspective how we look at things.
No. You sound like an idiot
 
Israel-ending, sure. And an ending for the country that nuked them, or was believed to have nuked them.
The Israeli perspective is that many in Iranian leadership would be willing to tolerate that...Because Islam wins. HAMAS, Hezbollah (Iranian proxies) have exactly the same philosophy. Hence the need for preemption.
 
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WTF is wrong with you?



No - you sound like a dingus.
I’m a numbers guy

Tax laws favor married people over single people especially at the 225-550k age range

35-% tax bracket kicks in

Allowing gays to marry means less tax revenue for the USA govt.
No. You sound like an idiot
the gov loses tax revenue from gays who make 250-550k agi who marry. Simple facts. I know my numbers.

Liberals will spin it that gay marriages stimulate economies. lol. The irony. Almost sounds like republicans ideology about stimulating economies through spending on weddings etc for gay marriages. And of course divorce lawyers love gay marriages because that means even more business. As 76% of all gay female marriages end in divorce. More business for them. Surprisingly only 30% of gay men get divorce.
 
The Israeli perspective is that many in Iranian leadership would be willing to tolerate that...Because Islam wins. HAMAS, Hezbollah (Iranian proxies) have exactly the same philosophy. Hence the need for preemption.
I understand Israel's concern. They'd be remiss if they didn't take the threats and rhetoric literally and at face value.

Their risk isn't zero. I just think it's higher with their current strategy, and I wish we were less involved.
 
I understand Israel's concern. They'd be remiss if they didn't take the threats and rhetoric literally and at face value.

Their risk isn't zero. I just think it's higher with their current strategy, and I wish we were less involved.
Fair.
 
I’m a numbers guy

Tax laws favor married people over single people especially at the 225-550k age range

35-% tax bracket kicks in

Allowing gays to marry means less tax revenue for the USA govt.

the gov loses tax revenue from gays who make 250-550k agi who marry. Simple facts. I know my numbers.

Liberals will spin it that gay marriages stimulate economies. lol. The irony. Almost sounds like republicans ideology about stimulating economies through spending on weddings etc for gay marriages. And of course divorce lawyers love gay marriages because that means even more business. As 76% of all gay female marriages end in divorce. More business for them. Surprisingly only 30% of gay men get divorce.
You're not a dingus because you're a tax fraud and "numbers guy", you're a dingus because of your dog-marrying-LGBT comment.

I'm not surprised you missed the point.
 
You're not a dingus because you're a tax fraud and "numbers guy", you're a dingus because of your dog-marrying-LGBT comment.

I'm not surprised you missed the point.
Nah. I pay tons of taxes. 350k in federal tax alone last year. Guys who made similar to me paid 100k less in taxes because they are way more aggressive than me.

Look at the liberals on this board talking how how much they shield taxes through real estate investments. Real estate deductions are among the sleaziest deductions. We all know that game. So is owning a farm or dog breeding business. People just don’t like to openly discuss about it.

I troll a lot. I’ve share my tax returns with a few on these message boards. They are legit deductions. No stormy Daniels deductions.

People put their 12-14 year old kids on payroll which is worse than me putting my spouse on the payroll roll

I’m the bottom of the barrel in terms of tax fraud.

My biggest deductions is my solo 401k and section. 179 deduction. And cme travel which I have tax receipts. Two of them university sponsored. Very typical deductions.
 
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Let me guess you’re a a stable genius too
Nope. I’m very practical. I do keep it very simple. One marriage. 2 kids. One house.

I’m about to get out of this full time rat race in the next 3-5 max years.

Enjoy your life folks. Don’t take things too seriously.

People are way too hard core here. And so sensitive.
 
I’m a numbers guy

Tax laws favor married people over single people especially at the 225-550k age range

35-% tax bracket kicks in

Allowing gays to marry means less tax revenue for the USA govt.

the gov loses tax revenue from gays who make 250-550k agi who marry. Simple facts. I know my numbers.

Liberals will spin it that gay marriages stimulate economies. lol. The irony. Almost sounds like republicans ideology about stimulating economies through spending on weddings etc for gay marriages. And of course divorce lawyers love gay marriages because that means even more business. As 76% of all gay female marriages end in divorce. More business for them. Surprisingly only 30% of gay men get divorce.
First of all, whether married filling jointly vs single deprives the gov't of much-needed tax revenue (you're for raising taxes, IIRC) depends on income. There is, after all, such a thing as the marriage penalty.

Second, by your logic, we should be outlawing "straight marriage," as that would boost federal tax revenue by orders of magnitude compared to the hit that allowing "gay" marriage would cause.

Or, maybe the gov't should get rid of the various filling categories based on marriage. I mean, isn't the current strategy akin to the gov't "picking winners and losers," something the free-market right abhors?

Oh, and fourth, nobody said **** about marrying dogs. That's a disgusting, yes, dog-whistle used by the right to gin up fear that somehow allowing others to marry would translate into legalized bestiality. But you knew that when you said it, didn't you?
 
I’m a numbers guy

Tax laws favor married people over single people especially at the 225-550k age range

35-% tax bracket kicks in

Allowing gays to marry means less tax revenue for the USA govt.

the gov loses tax revenue from gays who make 250-550k agi who marry. Simple facts. I know my numbers.

Liberals will spin it that gay marriages stimulate economies. lol. The irony. Almost sounds like republicans ideology about stimulating economies through spending on weddings etc for gay marriages. And of course divorce lawyers love gay marriages because that means even more business. As 76% of all gay female marriages end in divorce. More business for them. Surprisingly only 30% of gay men get divorce.
Any other rights that we should suppress in order to increase tax revenues? Or just ones that affect "the gays"

The religious fanatics aren't anti-gay marriage because of tax revenue...
 
Since I’ve blocked a person or two on here but do see the responses, I can only assume you all are arguing with some internet troll who continually posts outlandish things for attention?
You’d be correct. He’s apparently smarter than 98% of us though, so I continue to seek his wisdom.
 
Could be like me and keep the discussion going and going. I can take this one forever. And I do especially about certain topics.

Than people keep saying I keep deflecting cause they know I’m making my points but refusing to acknowledge I am correct. No one wants to give up ideology. Lines in sand are drawn.
Most of your "points" are without merit.
 
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Worst WW3 ever.

Iran has little power left after Hamas and Hezbollah were dismantled.

Doesnt necessarily mean they wont try an act of terrorism. But in terms of military..they don't pose any real threat.

If our bombs truly had the stated/expected effects then its worth it. Also, Iran is probably more focused on Israel anyway, so its a good time to drop bombs when they are less likely to retaliate while their focus is elsewhere.
 
I know its unseemly behavior to say anything positive about Trump, and there are a whole lot of ifs and maybes still to digest, and it all could have been luck, but this administration would have appeared to nail this one 💯.

One bold, isolated, precision attack that may have significantly damaged the Iranian enrichment operation and significantly kicked the can down the road a couple years, while Trump gets to claim peace through strength and American military superiority. More importantly, it expedited an Israeli ceasefire, as who knows how long it would take them to achieve this in their own. The only response (hopefully) was a feckless missile attack with no lives lost.

Less than 2 weeks.

The intelligence was either spot on or incredibly lucky, or both. At the very least a glimmer of a competent administration if even for a moment can’t be denied by even the most ardent Trump hater.
 
Basically the left thinks about humility yet badgers those who don’t think on the same ideology as same.

Splenda was getting harass why she won’t discuss the topic of lgbtq/gay marriages anymore. You must respect that. Yet you guys wanna keep it going about inclusivity, gay sports, oppression of the gays etc.

If you want to be inclusive. You let people have their own opinions no matter how different they are than yours.

I mentioned if I’m a single anesthesiologist? Why can’t I marry a dog. It’s weird. But if you are left leaning. Respect people’s wishes if they wanna marry their dog. Especially if they can get tax benefits making more than 225k agi when the 35% tax bracket kicks in for singles.

Left wingers want to include everyone (supposedly). Than starts calling marrying a dog as weird. Well the left welcomes all the weirdos. I guess they aren’t ready for extreme weirdness. Go figure.

And that’s the way some people feel about gay marriage.

I support gay marriages. Two of my colleagues are married same sex and suggorate kids.

But I also respect people who are anti gay marriages. They are welcome to their opinions. I’m not gonna to badger them

That’s why I don’t understand you guys for forcing your mortality to others. Let people be.

The institution of marriage is under attack anyways. Young people are marrying less and less. It’s true. Just look up the stats yourself. Society is changing. We are all on the same train in life. Either you are on this train or not. It will continue to move with or without you.
 
I know its unseemly behavior to say anything positive about Trump, and there are a whole lot of ifs and maybes still to digest, and it all could have been luck, but this administration would have appeared to nail this one 💯.

One bold, isolated, precision attack that may have significantly damaged the Iranian enrichment operation and significantly kicked the can down the road a couple years, while Trump gets to claim peace through strength and American military superiority. More importantly, it expedited an Israeli ceasefire, as who knows how long it would take them to achieve this in their own. The only response (hopefully) was a feckless missile attack with no lives lost.

Less than 2 weeks.

The intelligence was either spot on or incredibly lucky, or both. At the very least a glimmer of a competent administration if even for a moment can’t be denied by even the most ardent Trump hater.
Yup

One success after multiple multiple failures. But a success nonetheless

Yay?
 
Nope. I’m very practical. I do keep it very simple. One marriage. 2 kids. One house.

I’m about to get out of this full time rat race in the next 3-5 max years.

Enjoy your life folks. Don’t take things too seriously.

People are way too hard core here. And so sensitive.
I would like a little more levity on these forums, but hey conservatives are happier than liberals so it makes sense 😜
 
I would like a little more levity on these forums, but hey conservatives are happier than liberals so it makes sense 😜
Ha ha. I troll a lot of things. Tax deductions using hookers like stormy daniels. There is a reason Joe Biden pardon all his family members. You dig enough, most took illegal deductions on their business. But liberals will just say you can’t prove it. Biden eliminated any chance of that happening. And for good reasons.

Liberals want conservatives to support gay marriages and I take it a step further and they are just outrage on it on the dog marriage part.

The liberal mortality police is all up in arms.
 
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