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[crna2006]

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Well there is a very real possibility that the Gaetz move was political chess.

He resigns, gets a house investigation quashed. Maybe able to retain his seat in January or possibly Rubios seat in the senate. 🤷‍♂️

Trump rewarding loyalty.

Can we agree Bondi is a less egregious choice?

No, her attempts to promote frivolous law suits.over the election are well known

 

[DocMcCoy]

I’m

No, her attempts to promote frivolous law suits.over the election are well known

is she qualified for the position?
is she less egregious than Gaetz?

Trump is never going to pick someone the left 100 percent happy with. Just like any other partisan appointment.

There is a point where it just becomes pi**ing and moaning.

 

[anonperson]

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/22/trump-hush-money-sentencing-delayed-indefinitely.html

Well it looks like that circus is basically done.

What a waste of tax payer time and money. Alvin Bragg is a clown. Of course, he will probably win re election as DA.

 

[Southpaw]

I’m

is she qualified for the position?
is she less egregious than Gaetz?

Trump is never going to pick someone the left 100 percent happy with. Just like any other partisan appointment.

There is a point where it just becomes pi**ing and moaning.

The right is probably happier w her than Gaetz. I was hoping MAGA would make a stand for Gaetz similar to Trump. You gotta admit, the propensity for people in Trump’s orbit to have deeply serious character flaws is just….odd.

Anyway, Bondi is more of a standard MAGA, not really an off the charts wacko MAGA.

 

[rowsdower88]

I’m

is she qualified for the position?
is she less egregious than Gaetz?

Trump is never going to pick someone the left 100 percent happy with. Just like any other partisan appointment.

There is a point where it just becomes pi**ing and moaning.

Don't pretend that "the Left" had or has any impact on this.

A Republican President chose a Republican for AG and the Republican Senate balked on it.

Pointing out how the new contender (who will likely be confirmed) "protected foreclosure fraudsters" and declined to prosecute the Trump Foundation after a $25k donation is informing people of the President's priorities.

When Pam Bondi Protected Foreclosure Fraudsters

The new attorney general nominee, while serving as AG of Florida, fired the first two prosecutors to investigate the use of false evidence to kick people out of their homes.

prospect.org

The Trump Foundation-Pam Bondi scandal - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

In March 2016, CREW discovered that the Trump Foundation had broken the law by giving an illegal $25,000 contribution to a political group supporting Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi. This would set off an investigation which would lead to one of the biggest stories of the year. Here’s how it...

www.citizensforethics.org

 

[crna2006]

I’m

is she qualified for the position?
is she less egregious than Gaetz?

Trump is never going to pick someone the left 100 percent happy with. Just like any other partisan appointment.

There is a point where it just becomes pi**ing and moaning.

Is she qualified? She was AG in florida.
Is qualified ethically? No.
Gulliani is qualified would he be a good pick?

 

[deleted87051]

Is she qualified? She was AG in florida.
Is qualified ethically? No.
Gulliani is qualified would he be a good pick?

Giuliani has been disbarred in DC so he’s not a good example.

 

[crna2006]

Giuliani has been disbarred in DC so he’s not a good example.

Sorry, she should be. Same ethics.

 

[aneftp]

Jack smith refusing to resign is a perfect example of why Elon musk and the Indian dude want to get rid of federal workers hard to fire status after 2 years

The dude is 55 yo. He’s trying to make it to the min retirement age of 57 with the Feds. He’s been with the Feds since 2008. He won’t get the full pension if he waits to age 62. But he can get reduced pension plus more importantly subsidized healthcare if he can make it to age 57 or similar age.

Because he can resign anytime he wants. He just wants to get reassigned to any federal job to get the pension status accruing.

If he was age 62 or immediate pension health eligibille. He would retire immediately like the irs director who targeted or approved of targeting conservative 501c companies under Obama 2010-2013.

 

[MirrorTodd]

Jack smith refusing to resign is a perfect example of why Elon musk and the Indian dude want to get rid of federal workers hard to fire status after 2 years

The dude is 55 yo. He’s trying to make it to the min retirement age of 57 with the Feds. He’s been with the Feds since 2008. He won’t get the full pension if he waits to age 62. But he can get reduced pension plus more importantly subsidized healthcare if he can make it to age 57 or similar age.

Because he can resign anytime he wants. He just wants to get reassigned to any federal job to get the pension status accruing.

If he was age 62 or immediate pension health eligibille. He would retire immediately like the irs director who targeted or approved of targeting conservative 501c companies under Obama 2010-2013.

That’s not a problem. Wouldn’t you do the same in his position?

 

[crna2006]

Jack smith refusing to resign is a perfect example of why Elon musk and the Indian dude want to get rid of federal workers hard to fire status after 2 years

The dude is 55 yo. He’s trying to make it to the min retirement age of 57 with the Feds. He’s been with the Feds since 2008. He won’t get the full pension if he waits to age 62. But he can get reduced pension plus more importantly subsidized healthcare if he can make it to age 57 or similar age.

Because he can resign anytime he wants. He just wants to get reassigned to any federal job to get the pension status accruing.

If he was age 62 or immediate pension health eligibille. He would retire immediately like the irs director who targeted or approved of targeting conservative 501c companies under Obama 2010-2013.

Sort of like staying more then 20 in the military for a better retirement? For taking an early retirement with better severance?
What's the problem?

 

[UscGhost]

Jack smith refusing to resign is a perfect example of why Elon musk and the Indian dude want to get rid of federal workers hard to fire status after 2 years

The dude is 55 yo. He’s trying to make it to the min retirement age of 57 with the Feds. He’s been with the Feds since 2008. He won’t get the full pension if he waits to age 62. But he can get reduced pension plus more importantly subsidized healthcare if he can make it to age 57 or similar age.

Because he can resign anytime he wants. He just wants to get reassigned to any federal job to get the pension status accruing.

If he was age 62 or immediate pension health eligibille. He would retire immediately like the irs director who targeted or approved of targeting conservative 501c companies under Obama 2010-2013.

Why should he resign? Is he underperforming?

 

[aneftp]

Why should he resign? Is he underperforming?

Cause trump will just fire him as govt employee. It can get nasty in the govt firing process

At the Va hospitals. My friends have shown me how long term Va surgeons get walked out even with 20 plus year federal service.

They basically give them two options
1. Resign immediately
2. Fired and lose all your accrued pension benefits (u just keep what u contributed). But lose the pension.

So the surgeons have no choice but to resign and leave federal employment. If they are eligible to retire immediately they will but if not. They are forced out

It will be nasty

 

[crna2006]

Cause trump will just fire him as govt employee. It can get nasty in the govt firing process

At the Va hospitals. My friends have shown me how long term Va surgeons get walked out even with 20 plus year federal service.

They basically give them two options
1. Resign immediately
2. Fired and lose all your accrued pension benefits (u just keep what u contributed). But lose the pension.

So the surgeons have no choice but to resign and leave federal employment. If they are eligible to retire immediately they will but if not. They are forced out

It will be nasty

I can only assume that a federal lawyer is aware of said risk and willing to assume it.
I appreciate your concern for his well being, not sure how it squares with your OP concerning the issue.

 

[aneftp]

I can only assume that a federal lawyer is aware of said risk and willing to assume it.
I appreciate your concern for his well being, not sure how it squares with your OP concerning the issue.

The issue is why doesn’t he has resign. It’s the easiest solution

I’m just explaining to the general public why he’s hanging on to his job.

Matt gaetz just resigned. He has no real ties to govt pension or anything else to lose

Jack smith and other career govt employees have a lot more to lose unless they can do an immediate retirement.

Look at the school cop in broward county who did an immediate retirement when he was under fire for all those deaths. The dude did an immediate retirement in 2018. But if he was say 10 years into the process. He would have been hanging on lioke
Jack smith.

People need to understand why these career govt employees are hanging on instead of quitting govt job. Unless they can collect pension and be healthcare eligible immediately.

The federal workers in general are scared of trump and Elon musk. Outside of doctors. Most federal healthcare providers like RN, pharmacist etc actually end up making more than their private practice counterparts for the same job especially 5-7 years into the job.

So do not buy into the the usual propaganda that federal workers get paid less. Most get paid more when factoring in leave time, pay and other perks.

It’s really only the doctors who take a big pay cut working for the Feds.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

The issue is why doesn’t he has resign. It’s the easiest solution

I’m just explaining to the general public why he’s hanging on to his job.

Matt gaetz just resigned. He has no real ties to govt pension or anything else to lose

Jack smith and other career govt employees have a lot more to lose unless they can do an immediate retirement.

Look at the school cop in broward county who did an immediate retirement when he was under fire for all those deaths. The dude did an immediate retirement in 2018. But if he was say 10 years into the process. He would have been hanging on lioke
Jack smith.

People need to understand why these career govt employees are hanging on instead of quitting govt job. Unless they can collect pension and be healthcare eligible immediately.

The federal workers in general are scared of trump and Elon musk. Outside of doctors. Most federal healthcare providers like RN, pharmacist etc actually end up making more than their private practice counterparts for the same job especially 5-7 years into the job.

So do not buy into the the usual propaganda that federal workers get paid less. Most get paid more when factoring in leave time, pay and other perks.

It’s really only the doctors who take a big pay cut working for the Feds.

TF is your point as usual? Matt Gaetz is a pervereted loser, what does he have to do with it? Trump wants to be able to fire all federal employees if they are not “loyalalits” without giving them the civil service protections they are afforded. Most of them are non partisan. Trump wants “stooges”.

 

[crna2006]

The issue is why doesn’t he has resign. It’s the easiest solution

I’m just explaining to the general public why he’s hanging on to his job.

Matt gaetz just resigned. He has no real ties to govt pension or anything else to lose

Jack smith and other career govt employees have a lot more to lose unless they can do an immediate retirement.

Look at the school cop in broward county who did an immediate retirement when he was under fire for all those deaths. The dude did an immediate retirement in 2018. But if he was say 10 years into the process. He would have been hanging on lioke
Jack smith.

People need to understand why these career govt employees are hanging on instead of quitting govt job. Unless they can collect pension and be healthcare eligible immediately.

The federal workers in general are scared of trump and Elon musk. Outside of doctors. Most federal healthcare providers like RN, pharmacist etc actually end up making more than their private practice counterparts for the same job especially 5-7 years into the job.

So do not buy into the the usual propaganda that federal workers get paid less. Most get paid more when factoring in leave time, pay and other perks.

It’s really only the doctors who take a big pay cut working for the Feds.

"Easiest solution ?" For who?
Fairly certain at this point everyone understands the perks of government work.
So they need to be scared? This just moves everywhere after OP.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

The issue is why doesn’t he has resign. It’s the easiest solution

I’m just explaining to the general public why he’s hanging on to his job.

Matt gaetz just resigned. He has no real ties to govt pension or anything else to lose

Jack smith and other career govt employees have a lot more to lose unless they can do an immediate retirement.

Look at the school cop in broward county who did an immediate retirement when he was under fire for all those deaths. The dude did an immediate retirement in 2018. But if he was say 10 years into the process. He would have been hanging on lioke
Jack smith.

People need to understand why these career govt employees are hanging on instead of quitting govt job. Unless they can collect pension and be healthcare eligible immediately.

The federal workers in general are scared of trump and Elon musk. Outside of doctors. Most federal healthcare providers like RN, pharmacist etc actually end up making more than their private practice counterparts for the same job especially 5-7 years into the job.

So do not buy into the the usual propaganda that federal workers get paid less. Most get paid more when factoring in leave time, pay and other perks.

It’s really only the doctors who take a big pay cut working for the Feds.

Doesn't everyone want to hold on to their job unless they have something better waiting for them immediately?

 

[aneftp]

TF is your point as usual? Matt Gaetz is a pervereted loser, what does he have to do with it? Trump wants to be able to fire all federal employees if they are not “loyalalits” without giving them the civil service protections they are afforded. Most of them are non partisan. Trump wants “stooges”.

The because guys are so visually impaired that I have to spell it out as usual

1. They had all then evidence on gaetz for the last two years. They (the elite powers) were fine letting gaetz squabble and creating chaos within the Republican Party. It’s only when he’s in a real national position that they go after him. It’s targeting. There is no smoking new evidence. It’s been there all this time. Just like Diddy. They will go after you when they feel like it.

2. They were fine letting trump slide by. Do you think it’s coincidence that Jack Smith filed the charges 3 days after trump announce he was running for president. Again. Your opinion and my opinion with differ. You have to be living under a rock to not see what people in charge will do if they really want you gone.

3. Jack smith is just collateral sacrifice for whoever was running the Biden administration directing Smith.

He could have declined the position. I’ve been asked to be vice chief of a big dept and I declined. I’m not stupid to be the fall guy. Even for 100k more admin position.

That’s the risk Jack smith took to be in a position of power. He could have declined it.

 

[crna2006]

The because guys are so visually impaired that I have to spell it out as usual

1. They had all then evidence on gaetz for the last two years. They (the elite powers) were fine letting gaetz squabble and creating chaos within the Republican Party. It’s only when he’s in a real national position that they go after him. It’s targeting. There is no smoking new evidence. It’s been there all this time. Just like Diddy. They will go after you when they feel like it.

2. They were fine letting trump slide by. Do you think it’s coincidence that Jack Smith filed the charges 3 days after trump announce he was running for president. Again. Your opinion and my opinion with differ. You have to be living under a rock to not see what people in charge will do if they really want you gone.

3. Jack smith is just collateral sacrifice for whoever was running the Biden administration directing Smith.

He could have declined the position. I’ve been asked to be vice chief of a big dept and I declined. I’m not stupid to be the fall guy. Even for 100k more admin position.

That’s the risk Jack smith took to be in a position of power. He could have declined it.

And this has what to do with retirement and the 2 year federal thing you mentioned initially?
Well if we are reaching he could have held on until mars was rising over Saturn and mercury was retrograde and the cosmic alignment would have made his retirement AWESOME!

 

[aneftp]

And this has what to do with retirement and the 2 year federal thing you mentioned initially?
Well if we are reaching he could have held on until mars was rising over Saturn and mercury was retrograde and the cosmic alignment would have made his retirement AWESOME!

Because he’s stuck. He’s not like the irs Lerner woman chief who got to resign and immediately retire with the Feds. She had her out clause
“Administrative leave and resignationLater, while still on administrative leave, Lerner formally resigned, and retired from the IRS, effective September 23, 2013.”
“
Her sudden retirement on Monday after 12 years at the agency won’t change that.

She’s still a central figure in three congressional investigations into the political targeting scandal that embroiled the IRS — and the Obama administration — in May. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has an outstanding subpoena to compel her testimony before his panel.

And as a 30-year veteran of the civil service, Lerner is still eligible for a pension — something that is sure to further anger critics in Congress.”

Jack smith is not at his retirement age with the Feds. He’s stuck. Maybe one of his friends from Harvard law will throw him a bone to join their law firm. But he’s nuclear toxic right now and a law firm won’t risk that publicly.

 

[GravelRider]

Because he’s stuck. He’s not like the irs Lerner woman chief who got to resign and immediately retire with the Feds. She had her out clause
“Administrative leave and resignationLater, while still on administrative leave, Lerner formally resigned, and retired from the IRS, effective September 23, 2013.”
“
Her sudden retirement on Monday after 12 years at the agency won’t change that.

She’s still a central figure in three congressional investigations into the political targeting scandal that embroiled the IRS — and the Obama administration — in May. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has an outstanding subpoena to compel her testimony before his panel.

And as a 30-year veteran of the civil service, Lerner is still eligible for a pension — something that is sure to further anger critics in Congress.”

Jack smith is not at his retirement age with the Feds. He’s stuck. Maybe one of his friends from Harvard law will throw him a bone to join their law firm. But he’s nuclear toxic right now and a law firm won’t risk that publicly.

Meanwhile the lobbying of the Trump administration by certain businesses to be exempt from tariffs has begun. It’s like we don’t even try to be capitalist anymore. We are straight up oligarchy now. The government is used like a bludgeon to stifle competition and consolidate wealth for the already rich.

Or how about how the Trump transition is the first incoming president not to disclose who is funding his transition? We will look more like Russia and less like the United States in 4 years. The oligarchy is being cemented in place in front of our eyes and you perseverate on one federal employee who was mean to your man.

The populace will remain content because we’ll have cheap calories to make us fat and dopamine hits from the feeds and Amazon Haul to keep us happy. Bread and circuses.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

Meanwhile the lobbying of the Trump administration by certain businesses to be exempt from tariffs has begun. It’s like we don’t even try to be capitalist anymore. We are straight up oligarchy now. The government is used like a bludgeon to stifle competition and consolidate wealth for the already rich.

Or how about how the Trump transition is the first incoming president not to disclose who is funding his transition? We will look more like Russia and less like the United States in 4 years. The oligarchy is being cemented in place in front of our eyes and you perseverate on one federal employee who was mean to your man.

The populace will remain content because we’ll have cheap calories to make us fat and dopamine hits from the feeds and Amazon Haul to keep us happy. Bread and circuses.

I like how all the right-wing wackos whined about greasy old Hunter Biden even after Jared took 2 billion dollars from the Saudis. Now the worlds richest man who already has billions is on the inside and able to self deal billions more in contracts and subsidies. Corruption amongst trump and his cronies is unbelievable.

 

[Splenda88]

Meanwhile the lobbying of the Trump administration by certain businesses to be exempt from tariffs has begun. It’s like we don’t even try to be capitalist anymore. We are straight up oligarchy now. The government is used like a bludgeon to stifle competition and consolidate wealth for the already rich.

Or how about how the Trump transition is the first incoming president not to disclose who is funding his transition? We will look more like Russia and less like the United States in 4 years. The oligarchy is being cemented in place in front of our eyes and you perseverate on one federal employee who was mean to your man.

The populace will remain content because we’ll have cheap calories to make us fat and dopamine hits from the feeds and Amazon Haul to keep us happy. Bread and circuses.

The election was about culture war, and immigration is an extension of that. The dems have gone too far on that. Now Trump can do whatever he wants, and republicans won't say a thing.

 

[deleted87051]

Because he’s stuck. He’s not like the irs Lerner woman chief who got to resign and immediately retire with the Feds. She had her out clause
“Administrative leave and resignationLater, while still on administrative leave, Lerner formally resigned, and retired from the IRS, effective September 23, 2013.”
“
Her sudden retirement on Monday after 12 years at the agency won’t change that.

She’s still a central figure in three congressional investigations into the political targeting scandal that embroiled the IRS — and the Obama administration — in May. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has an outstanding subpoena to compel her testimony before his panel.

And as a 30-year veteran of the civil service, Lerner is still eligible for a pension — something that is sure to further anger critics in Congress.”

Jack smith is not at his retirement age with the Feds. He’s stuck. Maybe one of his friends from Harvard law will throw him a bone to join their law firm. But he’s nuclear toxic right now and a law firm won’t risk that publicly.

Smith is not a career federal worker. He’s been in and out of federal government service throughout his career.

He’s worked in the Manhattan DAs office, at HCA, and most recently at The Hague before becoming special prosecutor. The special prosecutor gig has only been 2 years. He’s not like some anesthesiologist who has worked at the VA for 18 years trying to hold on til 20. My brother in law is a former DOJ prosecutor. Jack Smith has many options at the moment. He’s not “nuclear toxic”.

 

[aneftp]

Smith is not a career federal worker. He’s been in and out of federal government service throughout his career.

He’s worked in the Manhattan DAs office, at HCA, and most recently at The Hague before becoming special prosecutor. The special prosecutor gig has only been 2 years. He’s not like some anesthesiologist who has worked at the VA for 18 years trying to hold on til 20.

The years add up. He’s been involved with the Feds since 1999

It’s not not just the 20 years. He’s not a the minimum retirement age either. Which is age 57 or older depending on years of service.

I don’t know why you are defending him. Biden instructed him to file charges 3 days after trump announced he’s running for election again. He could have filed way before

Then after the Supreme Court deciding on presidential immunity was handed down. He still
Didn’t want to pause the prosecution. Instead re filed it in Sept weeks before the election. You don’t have any issues with this over zealous approach?

Now all of the sudden he wants to wind down the prosecution ? Makes zero sense. Why go all
In. And now withdraw? Don’t you understand?

The prudent thing was not to re file in Sept and “pause “.

Anyone who doesn’t see this is once again out of touch of with his aggressive targeting behavior.

I’d have given him a benefit of the doubt had he paused or delay another filing but he went ahead and re filed like someone who’s out to get trump weeks before. Even legal experts said he shouldn’t have re filed it in September It’s gross misconduct. Yet now he wants to back away? He’s done. Check mate.

At least the manhattan DA and the Manhattan judge knew the scoreboard and didn’t dare try to sentence trump. And they had the most slam dunk to sentence trump because the conviction already took place.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

The years add up. He’s been involved with the Feds since 1999

It’s not not just the 20 years. He’s not a the minimum retirement age either. Which is age 57 or older depending on years of service.

I don’t know why you are defending him. Biden instructed him to file charges 3 days after trump announced he’s running for election again. He could have filed way before

Then after the Supreme Court deciding on presidential immunity was handed down. He still
Didn’t want to pause the prosecution. Instead re filed it in Sept weeks before the election. You don’t have any issues with this over zealous approach?

Now all of the sudden he wants to wind down the prosecution ? Makes zero sense. Why go all
In. And now withdraw? Don’t you understand?

The prudent thing was not to re file in Sept and “pause “.

Anyone who doesn’t see this is once again out of touch of with his aggressive targeting behavior.

I’d have given him a benefit of the doubt had he paused or delay another filing but he went ahead and re filed like someone who’s out to get trump weeks before. Even legal experts said he shouldn’t have re filed it in September It’s gross misconduct. Yet now he wants to back away? He’s done. Check mate.

At least the manhattan DA and the Manhattan judge knew the scoreboard and didn’t dare try to sentence trump. And they had the most slam dunk to sentence trump because the conviction already took place.

Don't you understand?

 

[aneftp]

Don't you understand?

We will disagree on 80%-90% of things here probably . Maybe 100% of things. I see the sky is blue today. You will say it’s a different shade of blue.

My views and your views will never align. And that’s fine.

 

[deleted87051]

The years add up. He’s been involved with the Feds since 1999

It’s not not just the 20 years. He’s not a the minimum retirement age either. Which is age 57 or older depending on years of service.

I don’t know why you are defending him. Biden instructed him to file charges 3 days after trump announced he’s running for election again. He could have filed way before

Then after the Supreme Court deciding on presidential immunity was handed down. He still
Didn’t want to pause the prosecution. Instead re filed it in Sept weeks before the election. You don’t have any issues with this over zealous approach?

Now all of the sudden he wants to wind down the prosecution ? Makes zero sense. Why go all
In. And now withdraw? Don’t you understand?

The prudent thing was not to re file in Sept and “pause “.

Anyone who doesn’t see this is once again out of touch of with his aggressive targeting behavior.

I’d have given him a benefit of the doubt had he paused or delay another filing but he went ahead and re filed like someone who’s out to get trump weeks before. Even legal experts said he shouldn’t have re filed it in September It’s gross misconduct. Yet now he wants to back away? He’s done. Check mate.

At least the manhattan DA and the Manhattan judge knew the scoreboard and didn’t dare try to sentence trump. And they had the most slam dunk to sentence trump because the conviction already took place.

I’m not defending him. I’m saying your argument that he’s hanging on for a pension is ludicrous. He’s a hard charger. He’s not the kind of guy looking to retire any time soon.

Jack Smith’s Final Report On Trump Criminal Cases: What To Expect

At least half of the final report could be made public as soon as Tuesday—unless Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon blocks it.

www.forbes.com

“KEY FACTS​

Smith intends to resign ahead of Trump’s presidency, The New York Times first reported Wednesday, after reports suggestedthe special counsel and Justice Department were planning to follow longstanding DOJ precedent to not prosecute sitting presidents and wind down their prosecutions against Trump as a result.

The special counsel is expected to draft a final report before he leaves, according to the Times and NBC News, in accordance with federal policy requiring special counsels to “provide the Attorney General with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the Special Counsel”—meaning why Smith decided to indict Trump on the charges he brought, and why he decided against any possible additional charges that were under consideration.

Smith’s report will summarize his two investigations into Trump, one for the ex-president’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election and one for Trump’s alleged withholding of White House documents and alleged obstruction against the government’s investigation into them.

It’s unclear how much new information the report will include, given that much of Smith’s evidence against Trump has already been made public through court filings, and the Times notes the time crunch means it could be much shorter than other recent special counsel reports, like Robert Hur’s report on President Joe Biden’s retention of White House documents.“

 

[Arch Guillotti]

We will disagree on 80%-90% of things here probably . Maybe 100% of things. I see the sky is blue today. You will say it’s a different shade of blue.

My views and your views will never align. And that’s fine.

That has nothing to do with it. You just don’t seem to get it or understand.

 

[aneftp]

That has nothing to do with it. You just don’t seem to get it or understand.

That’s your point of view. People who read these message boards who know me in person and agree me don’t bother commenting. Because they know as well. The lines get drawn. You aren’t gonna to move an inch. And neither with I.

1. Smith is over zealous prosecutors who just wouldn’t stop or even pause just trolling trump by re filing an indictment weeks after the Supreme Court ruled on immunity. And even if the history of DOJ precedent said not to influence elections He still did it.

And you dont get that. Legal experts on both sides said that was poor form of smith to try to re file before the election. . That’s over zealous.

What is thar you don’t still don’t understand?

Now he all of the sudden wants to pull out and resign? Which proves point number 1 he tried to influence the election. Because he’s using the same excuses not to pursue trump that he ignored by trying to re file the charges in Sept.

Now he’s stuck. He’s gonna to get fired no matter what. But he’s not in lerner position to retire. He’s gonna to try to finish a half hearted summary and resign. An utter waste of taxpayer money.

 

[aneftp]

That has nothing to do with it. You just don’t seem to get it or understand.

Trump claims new Jack Smith filing is election interference. Here's how it became public.

Trump accused the special counsel of election interference over a filing released Wednesday. But a federal judge, not Smith, decided to make it public and when.

www.nbcnews.com

What is DOJ's '60-day rule' and what role might it play in a Trump trial before the 2024 election?

The DOJ's "60-day rule" and special counsel Smith’s push to bring Trump to trial before the 2024 election.

abcnews.go.com

So jack smith all of the sudden decides to wind down his prosecution cause trump is in charge now while ignoring DOJ precedent earlier

And that’s what you don’t get.

He was out to get trump. Just like Alvin Bragg.

And why isn’t Alvin Bragg pushing to get trump sentence? They talk all about justice. Yet scared to sentence trump now. Cause they know the truth.

Trump has them beat.

 

[crna2006]

That’s your point of view. People who read these message boards who know me in person and agree me don’t bother commenting. Because they know as well. The lines get drawn. You aren’t gonna to move an inch. And neither with I.

1. Smith is over zealous prosecutors who just wouldn’t stop or even pause just trolling trump by re filing an indictment weeks after the Supreme Court ruled on immunity. And even if the history of DOJ precedent said not to influence elections He still did it.

And you dont get that. Legal experts on both sides said that was poor form of smith to try to re file before the election. . That’s over zealous.

What is thar you don’t still don’t understand?

Now he all of the sudden wants to pull out and resign? Which proves point number 1 he tried to influence the election. Because he’s using the same excuses not to pursue trump that he ignored by trying to re file the charges in Sept.

Now he’s stuck. He’s gonna to get fired no matter what. But he’s not in lerner position to retire. He’s gonna to try to finish a half hearted summary and resign. An utter waste of taxpayer money.

One could say prosecuting someone for attempting to overthrow the government while president and then that same person ran for the office again would be unprecedented, that proving that case in a court of law would not be election interference.
If it were murder should the prosecution stop? Is a presidential candidate immune to the rule of law?

 

[aneftp]

One could say prosecuting someone for attempting to overthrow the government while president and then that same person ran for the office again would be unprecedented, that proving that case in a court of law would not be election interference.
If it were murder should the prosecution stop? Is a presidential candidate immune to the rule of law?

Than why is Jack smith stopping now?
Why didn’t he stop in August 2024 instead of re filing the charges. If the charges are true and the DOJ is suppose to be unbiased

 

[Arch Guillotti]

Trump claims new Jack Smith filing is election interference. Here's how it became public.

Trump accused the special counsel of election interference over a filing released Wednesday. But a federal judge, not Smith, decided to make it public and when.

www.nbcnews.com

What is DOJ's '60-day rule' and what role might it play in a Trump trial before the 2024 election?

The DOJ's "60-day rule" and special counsel Smith’s push to bring Trump to trial before the 2024 election.

abcnews.go.com

So jack smith all of the sudden decides to wind down his prosecution cause trump is in charge now while ignoring DOJ precedent earlier

And that’s what you don’t get.

He was out to get trump. Just like Alvin Bragg.

And why isn’t Alvin Bragg pushing to get trump sentence? They talk all about justice. Yet scared to sentence trump now. Cause they know the truth.

Trump has them beat.

Sorry. You don’t get it.

 

[aneftp]

Sorry. You don’t get it.

Explain than. I’m all ears

 

[crna2006]

Than why is Jack smith stopping now?
Why didn’t he stop in August 2024 instead of re filing the charges. If the charges are true and the DOJ is suppose to be unbiased

No point in continuing, a report is the most that can be done. The case will not hit court before trump assumes office. The justice department will then dismiss the case.

 

[aneftp]

No point in continuing, a report is the most that can be done. The case will not hit court before trump assumes office. The justice department will then dismiss the case.

What was the point of re filing Sept 1 than? You guys just refuse to admit there is extreme bias trying to get trump.

We all know thr truth. The truth would have been to pause it any re filing until after the election but Jack smith ignored the 60 day rule but justifying that the indictment had already been filed before the Supreme Court decision with immunity.

So he got cute and re filed less charges to comply with the Supreme Court decision but still ignored the 60 day rule.

Look. I, like most people here think trump is scum , con artist.

I just get amuse of people refusing to admins people were out to get him.

 

[aneftp]

Sorry. You don’t get it.

In a nutshell. Jack smith hedged his bet trump would lose the election so went ahead and went aggressive in sept 2024 ignoring precedent to hold off 60 days before the election.

That’s what I get. And that’s what you don’t get.

Easy most logical thing was to pause everything till after the election which his bias brain never comprehended. And you think trump is out of touch. Jack smith was out of touch with common sense.

That is an out of control civil employee who warrants to be fired.

 

[crna2006]

What was the point of re filing Sept 1 than? You guys just refuse to admit there is extreme bias trying to get trump.

We all know thr truth. The truth would have been to pause it any re filing until after the election but Jack smith ignored the 60 day rule but justifying that the indictment had already been filed before the Supreme Court decision with immunity.

So he got cute and re filed less charges to comply with the Supreme Court decision but still ignored the 60 day rule.

Look. I, like most people here think trump is scum , con artist.

I just get amuse of people refusing to admins people were out to get him.

If you mean enforce the law yeah they were out together him. Just like the DEA is out to get dealers, or police murderers. The propaganda has worked well on you if you think trump is just some victim.

 

[crna2006]

In a nutshell. Jack smith hedged his bet trump would lose the election so went ahead and went aggressive in sept 2024 ignoring precedent to hold off 60 days before the election.

That’s what I get. And that’s what you don’t get.

Easy most logical thing was to pause everything till after the election which his bias brain never comprehended. And you think trump is out of touch. Jack smith was out of touch with common sense.

That is an out of control civil employee who warrants to be fired.

In a nutshell you file the case and work the case until it cannot be worked

 

[aneftp]

If you mean enforce the law yeah they were out together him. Just like the DEA is out to get dealers, or police murderers. The propaganda has worked well on you if you think trump is just some victim.

If they to enforce the laws. They need to continue the case. It’s as simple as that. So in reality they aren’t enforcing the law.

And they are scared to even enforce sentencing of trump in New York. Doesn’t look like they want to enforce any laws now.

 

[Arch Guillotti]

In a nutshell. Jack smith hedged his bet trump would lose the election so went ahead and went aggressive in sept 2024 ignoring precedent to hold off 60 days before the election.

That’s what I get. And that’s what you don’t get.

Easy most logical thing was to pause everything till after the election which his bias brain never comprehended. And you think trump is out of touch. Jack smith was out of touch with common sense.

That is an out of control civil employee who warrants to be fired.

In a nutshell you don’t get it and are too dogmatic to believe anything other than what you falsely claim to be the only truth. The only reason they are out to get trump is because he deserves it for his various crimes, corruption and whatnot. Unfortunately you have bought into the greatest hoax of them all, that trump is somehow a victim. Sad.

 

[aneftp]

In a nutshell you file the case and work the case until it cannot be worked

Because you know the truth. The prosecutor was counting on a trump losing the election.

This has nothing to do with laws anymore. It is and was always politically motivated.

Garland made Jack smith the scapegoat. Not a peep from garland after the election. They decided to go after the small guys first for Jan 6 instead of trump. It’s easier to go after the small guys. Just like the lady wanted to go after usap in colorado instead of going after bigger targets in hospital monopoly and duolopies in many parts of the country.

And that was Biden and Garland (I blame garland cause Biden is demented) biggest mistake. By the time they finally got around to going after trump. It pushed up against the elections.

 

[aneftp]

In a nutshell you don’t get it and are too dogmatic to believe anything other than what you falsely claim to be the only truth. The only reason they are out to get trump is because he deserves it for his various crimes, corruption and whatnot. Unfortunately you have bought into the greatest hoax of them all, that trump is somehow a victim. Sad.

I keep morphing. You are the one who’s dogmatic and doesn’t see the world changing around you.

I never believe in trump. He’s con artist. But he’s amusing to me. He’s still better than what the Dems offered. So in reality it’s the Dems who failed to changed. We live in a tik tok American reality world now.

Trump has been doing realty tv for 15 years? He’s a pro at understanding the public.

Regular sitcom TV died (where families watched 8pm Cosby show, to Seinfeld to even friends) died by the early 2000s.

You are like blockbuster video. You don’t see change like I see change. Just like those anesthesia docs hanging on to the old private practice fee for service model. That stuff does not work for 80% of the anesthesia workforce anymore. You have to morph to survive.

Trump has morph and re imagine himself. He understands his audience

The simple answer is I falsely claim this and that. There is no truth any more. Just various grey area version of the truth.

Everyone lies. Just a matter of what lies you want to believe.

 

[Splenda88]

I keep morphing. You are the one who’s dogmatic and doesn’t see the world changing around you.

I never believe in trump. He’s con artist. But he’s amusing to me. He’s still better than what the Dems offered. So in reality it’s the Dems who failed to changed. We live in a tik tok American reality world now.

Trump has been doing realty tv for 15 years? He’s a pro at understanding the public.

Regular sitcom TV died (where families watched 8pm Cosby show, to Seinfeld to even friends) died by the early 2000s.

You are like blockbuster video. You don’t see change like I see change. Just like those anesthesia docs hanging on to the old private practice fee for service model. That stuff does not work for 80% of the anesthesia workforce anymore. You have to morph to survive.

Trump has morph and re imagine himself. He understands his audience

The simple answer is I falsely claim this and that. There is no truth any more. Just various grey area version of the truth.

Everyone lies. Just a matter of what lies you want to believe.

The NY prosecution is BS, but the other ones are legit

 

[aneftp]

The NY prosecution is BS, but the other ones are legit

They are all legit criminal cases. It just depends how the prosecutors want to approach it.

Unfortunately some prosecutors want the notoriety. Lots of egos involved.

 

[crna2006]

Because you know the truth. The prosecutor was counting on a trump losing the election.

This has nothing to do with laws anymore. It is and was always politically motivated.

Garland made Jack smith the scapegoat. Not a peep from garland after the election. They decided to go after the small guys first for Jan 6 instead of trump. It’s easier to go after the small guys. Just like the lady wanted to go after usap in colorado instead of going after bigger targets in hospital monopoly and duolopies in many parts of the country.

And that was Biden and Garland (I blame garland cause Biden is demented) biggest mistake. By the time they finally got around to going after trump. It pushed up against the elections.

It was politically motivated because trump was running for president. The crimes he committed (documents) were committed while he was out of office.
You have drank the koolaid

 

[Arch Guillotti]

I keep morphing. You are the one who’s dogmatic and doesn’t see the world changing around you.

I never believe in trump. He’s con artist. But he’s amusing to me. He’s still better than what the Dems offered. So in reality it’s the Dems who failed to changed. We live in a tik tok American reality world now.

Trump has been doing realty tv for 15 years? He’s a pro at understanding the public.

Regular sitcom TV died (where families watched 8pm Cosby show, to Seinfeld to even friends) died by the early 2000s.

You are like blockbuster video. You don’t see change like I see change. Just like those anesthesia docs hanging on to the old private practice fee for service model. That stuff does not work for 80% of the anesthesia workforce anymore. You have to morph to survive.

Trump has morph and re imagine himself. He understands his audience

The simple answer is I falsely claim this and that. There is no truth any more. Just various grey area version of the truth.

Everyone lies. Just a matter of what lies you want to believe.

You are wrong. Sorry.

 

[Splenda88]

The NY prosecution is BS, but the other ones are legit

That NY stuff is a misdemeanor at best.

I am not sure what you wanted Jack Smith to do.

The people handling the Atlanta case are amateurs IMO.