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DocMcCoy said:
Meh. Ya the cover up is bullsht, but I wouldn’t suggest liberals hold their collective breaths hoping there is some coup de grace Trump/Epstein pee tape floating around. You guys fired everything you have at him with both barrels since 2016. If there was, we would have heard about it by now. The best you can hope for is some guilt by association circumstantial evidence that will be enough for ANOTHER impeachment when the dems presumably the house back.

BTW, how did libs become the conspiracy party all of the sudden? Epstein? Swollen ankles? Pee bags? Fake marines? Covered up bruises? Mental acuity? The left Reddit sphere rivals pizzagate right now.
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Still a conspiracy? Esrd? CHF?
 
chessknt said:
Republican board certified anesthesiologists believe no CHF when the ER doc tells them his POCUS said so despite all evidence to the contrary. No RHC needed, all above board for the party demanding proof of medical fitness. Incredible mental gymnastics.
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I doubt that they’d forge an echo result. You think they just did pocus? No chance they’re doing a quick and dirty on the president.
 
I don't believe it.

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GOP rep says he doesn’t trust Trump DOJ

Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) signaled Tuesday that he doesn’t believe the findings from the Justice Department’s (DOJ) probe of files related to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein — including the lack of a client list and the cause of his 2019 death. “I’m over it. It disgusts me,” Burchett told...
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DocMcCoy said:
Clean echo with “no signs of heart failure or renal impairment”.

So I guess only if you believe those things not to be true 🤷‍♂️
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Memorandum from the White House Physician on President Donald J. Trump's Annual Physical Examination Results | The American Presidency Project

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Lol. Well, given that his initial physical exam didnt find ANY major health problems, and he has the labs, ekg and echo of a 20 year old apparently...but somehow develops swollen ankles 6 months later..would seem...odd

And given that he looks like a typical obese hypertensive

Or let me put it this way, if he walked into your pre-op clinic, and you saw him, and someone handed you such a stellar labs and EKG..would you double check the names on the chart to make sure it was the right chart?

That being said. I couldn't care less if he's unhealthy and blatantly lying about it. Its his personal choice.

I am just medically curious if its a more significant underlying issue
 
UscGhost said:

Memorandum from the White House Physician on President Donald J. Trump's Annual Physical Examination Results | The American Presidency Project

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Lol. Well, given that his initial physical exam didnt find ANY major health problems, and he has the labs, ekg and echo of a 20 year old apparently...but somehow develops swollen ankles 6 months later..would seem...odd

And given that he looks like a typical obese hypertensive

Or let me put it this way, if he walked into your pre-op clinic, and you saw him, and someone handed you such a stellar labs and EKG..would you double check the names on the chart to make sure it was the right chart?

That being said. I couldn't care less if he's unhealthy and blatantly lying about it. Its his personal choice.

I am just medically curious if its a more significant underlying issue
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Right. Well, like I said…

DocMcCoy said:
how did libs become the conspiracy party all of the sudden?
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I wonder who’d win up a flight of stairs, Trump or Biden. There is probably a pretty good joke in there somewhere…
 
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He’s pushing 80. Subjectively, he is doing better than the average 80 year old that shuffles into same day surgery.

Also, there is no 80 year old I have ever clicked the “excellent” box on in Epic. So to say he is in “excellent” health IS a stretch. I’ll give you that.
 
Splenda88 said:
We just don't want to think that the president of the United States is a [insert].
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Well, we all know he's an adjudicated rapist, and there's sworn testimony from a woman who said he raped her when she was 13. And there are all the Miss Teen USA incidents. "Grab 'em by the *****!"

And that's before we even get to Epstein.

All of us have always known what he is.

Splenda88 said:
The MAGA movement will be just like another Tea Party movement.
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No cult survives the loss of its leader. There isn't and won't be an heir when Trump is gone.
 
DocMcCoy said:
Also, there is no 80 year old I have ever clicked the “excellent” box on in Epic. So to say he is in “excellent” health IS a stretch. I’ll give you that.
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In our Epic build, we have to click the functional status box and the dividing line between 4 and 5 METS is “can participate in sexual activity.” I sometimes muse at how much of my job is to sit and look at some old person and be like, “can they ****?”
 
cchoukal said:
In our Epic build, we have to click the functional status box and the dividing line between 4 and 5 METS is “can participate in sexual activity.” I sometimes muse at how much of my job is to sit and look at some old person and be like, “can they ****?”
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What if they are a catcher instead of a pitcher?
 
cchoukal said:
In our Epic build, we have to click the functional status box and the dividing line between 4 and 5 METS is “can participate in sexual activity.” I sometimes muse at how much of my job is to sit and look at some old person and be like, “can they ****?”
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Just look for the Viagra/Cialis prescriptions from us PCPs.
 
The EPA just eliminated its scientific research arm. Always a great sign to have climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers denying reality in charge. The downstream harm from unrestricted pollution is going to hurt all Americans.
 
DocMcCoy said:
He’s pushing 80. Subjectively, he is doing better than the average 80 year old that shuffles into same day surgery.

Also, there is no 80 year old I have ever clicked the “excellent” box on in Epic. So to say he is in “excellent” health IS a stretch. I’ll give you that.
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I had a retired 75 yo super fit ct surgeon for urologic procedure under general anesthesia lma. Resting heart rate in the low 40s. No meds. Recent elective cath no disease. He just likes to check his heart out once in a while he told me. No symptoms. Still can do half marathons. I didn’t ask him for any specific times but clearly he tolerate more than 10 Mets without symptoms. It was so hard for me to put Asa 2 for him. Becuase I think everyone over age 70 is automatic Asa 2.

Probably everyone over age 80 should be close to Asa 3.

I wish Asa would add some type of 0.5 to their Asa guidelines as well. Like young morbid obesity bmi 45 and osa is automatic Asa 3 for most of us. But they are young in their late 20s /early 30s still active physically. And closer to Asa 2.5 in my book.
 
aneftp said:
I had a retired 75 yo super fit ct surgeon for urologic procedure under general anesthesia lma. Resting heart rate in the low 40s. No meds. Recent elective cath no disease. He just likes to check his heart out once in a while he told me. No symptoms. Still can do half marathons. I didn’t ask him for any specific times but clearly he tolerate more than 10 Mets without symptoms. It was so hard for me to put Asa 2 for him. Becuase I think everyone over age 70 is automatic Asa 2.

Probably everyone over age 80 should be close to Asa 3.

I wish Asa would add some type of 0.5 to their Asa guidelines as well. Like young morbid obesity bmi 45 and osa is automatic Asa 3 for most of us. But they are young in their late 20s /early 30s still active physically. And closer to Asa 2.5 in my book.
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There are pretty clearly delineated definitions for ASA physical status classification, and age has nothing to do with it. There is a separate modifier for age (whether insurance will pay for it is another story). You got some strange ideas.

BMI 40+ automatic ASA 3, regardless of age or activity level. Their obesity is a poorly controlled systemic disease.
 
abolt18 said:
There are pretty clearly delineated definitions for ASA physical status classification, and age has nothing to do with it. There is a separate modifier for age (whether insurance will pay for it is another story). You got some strange ideas.

BMI 40+ automatic ASA 3, regardless of age or activity level. Their obesity is a poorly controlled systemic disease.
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Asa has has a box for age 70 or age less than 1 as modifiers

and that as we all know is for billing unit.

If age doesn’t matter than why are we getting paid extra?
 
aneftp said:
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I wish Asa would add some type of 0.5 to their Asa guidelines as well. Like young morbid obesity bmi 45 and osa is automatic Asa 3 for most of us. But they are young in their late 20s /early 30s still active physically. And closer to Asa 2.5 in my book.
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I agree, and all permutations thereof. There are times, often in my practice, whereby I believe everyone who smokes the Devil’s Lettuce really ought to be classified as ASA 3.14. It just makes more sense, you know?
 
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We'll see if this gets corroborated by a larger news source, but this is a wild story.

"Last night at a town hall in Jonesborough, Tennessee, a woman shared her story: she was denied prenatal care by her OB-GYN because the doctor objected to the fact that she isn’t married. She’s been with her partner for 15 years and has a 13-year-old son.

The doctor told her that because she was unwed, according to a new law in Tennessee, he didn’t feel comfortable treating her because it went against his “Christian values.”

Now, she’s traveling out of state to Virginia to receive prenatal care.

This is exactly what Republicans were counting on. Earlier this year, the state passed the 2025 Medical Ethics Defense Act, which gives physicians, and even insurers, the legal right to deny care to patients based on any religious, moral, or ethical belief. There are no protections for people in rural areas with limited options. There’s no requirement to refer patients elsewhere. And there’s no legal recourse. The woman at the town hall explained that her representatives are not responsive to her questions, even as she repeatedly calls Sen. Marsha Blackburn. When she reached staff at Sen. Bill Hagerty’s office, they told her, “he’s not obligated to listen to his constituents.”

Last Spring, House bill sponsor Rep. Bryan Terry (R–Murfreesboro) claimed the law would help Tennessee recruit and retain physicians, according to Nashville Scene. That’s false. The state has seen a decline in OB-GYNs since Tennessee’s total abortion ban went into effect. Tennessee has the highest maternal mortality rate in the country and ranks among the worst for infant mortality. Combine that with the refusal to expand Medicaid and the lack of rural maternity care, and it’s no surprise Tennessee was named the worst state in the nation to live in, by a recent CNBC study.

And now, thanks to the Medicaid cuts in President Donald Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill Act,” 300,000 Tennesseans may lose health insurance, and nine rural hospitals are at risk of closure. For communities already struggling to keep clinics and hospitals open and with new legal protections for any physician to deny healthcare to whoever they want based on their “lifestyle,” the impact will be anything but beautiful."

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Exclusive: Pregnant Woman in Tennessee Denied Care for Being Unmarried

The 2025 Medical Ethics Defense Act allows physicians to deny care to patients whose "lifestyles" they disagree with
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rowsdower88 said:
We'll see if this gets corroborated by a larger news source, but this is a wild story.

"Last night at a town hall in Jonesborough, Tennessee, a woman shared her story: she was denied prenatal care by her OB-GYN because the doctor objected to the fact that she isn’t married. She’s been with her partner for 15 years and has a 13-year-old son.

The doctor told her that because she was unwed, according to a new law in Tennessee, he didn’t feel comfortable treating her because it went against his “Christian values.”

Now, she’s traveling out of state to Virginia to receive prenatal care.

This is exactly what Republicans were counting on. Earlier this year, the state passed the 2025 Medical Ethics Defense Act, which gives physicians, and even insurers, the legal right to deny care to patients based on any religious, moral, or ethical belief. There are no protections for people in rural areas with limited options. There’s no requirement to refer patients elsewhere. And there’s no legal recourse. The woman at the town hall explained that her representatives are not responsive to her questions, even as she repeatedly calls Sen. Marsha Blackburn. When she reached staff at Sen. Bill Hagerty’s office, they told her, “he’s not obligated to listen to his constituents.”

Last Spring, House bill sponsor Rep. Bryan Terry (R–Murfreesboro) claimed the law would help Tennessee recruit and retain physicians, according to Nashville Scene. That’s false. The state has seen a decline in OB-GYNs since Tennessee’s total abortion ban went into effect. Tennessee has the highest maternal mortality rate in the country and ranks among the worst for infant mortality. Combine that with the refusal to expand Medicaid and the lack of rural maternity care, and it’s no surprise Tennessee was named the worst state in the nation to live in, by a recent CNBC study.

And now, thanks to the Medicaid cuts in President Donald Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill Act,” 300,000 Tennesseans may lose health insurance, and nine rural hospitals are at risk of closure. For communities already struggling to keep clinics and hospitals open and with new legal protections for any physician to deny healthcare to whoever they want based on their “lifestyle,” the impact will be anything but beautiful."

wellsrachelm.substack.com

Exclusive: Pregnant Woman in Tennessee Denied Care for Being Unmarried

The 2025 Medical Ethics Defense Act allows physicians to deny care to patients whose "lifestyles" they disagree with
wellsrachelm.substack.com wellsrachelm.substack.com
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The line about having to “travel out of state” raises my BS detector because that lady appears to live in the “Tri Cities” area of TN in which part of the three cities is literally in Virginia. So it could be reworded to “My OB was a jackass so I switched to the other office in town”
 
HemeOncHopeful19 said:
The line about having to “travel out of state” raises my BS detector because that lady appears to live in the “Tri Cities” area of TN in which part of the three cities is literally in Virginia. So it could be reworded to “My OB was a jackass so I switched to the other office in town”
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That wasn't the most surprising statement to me, but fair enough. There might be other, non-Christian extremist OBGYNs she could visit near Jonesborough. I will say the TN 1st district, where Jonesborough is located, is quite large and does encompass some rural communities.
 
George Retes, an army veteran and citizen, was kidnapped by ICE despite being a citizen. Tear gas, pepper spray, his car smashed. Held for 3 days with no lawyer or even charges until media attention blew up. Still going to pretend like ICE isn't breaking the law or abusing their power?
 
Dragonite7 said:
George Retes, an army veteran and citizen, was kidnapped by ICE despite being a citizen. Tear gas, pepper spray, his car smashed. Held for 3 days with no lawyer or even charges until media attention blew up. Still going to pretend like ICE isn't breaking the law or abusing their power?
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No you see he can file a lawsuit and theoretically get some amount of money in the future assuming he can win against the limitless resources of the federal government so that makes it ok according to the Trumpsters. The nameless masked agents will never be held accountable in any way of course because protecting them from doxing is an unwritten 0th amendment right the supercedes all others.

And if you can't afford a lawyer or don't have the voice/people who miss you to get the attention you need to actually get out of your illegal prison then you are just ****ed. All part of the plan.
 
Dragonite7 said:
George Retes, an army veteran and citizen, was kidnapped by ICE despite being a citizen. Tear gas, pepper spray, his car smashed. Held for 3 days with no lawyer or even charges until media attention blew up. Still going to pretend like ICE isn't breaking the law or abusing their power?
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Well that’s definitely one side of the story…

He certainly wasn’t “kidnapped by ICE”. He rolled up in the middle of feds executing a warrant which devolved into yet another violent protest. The same protest in which someone allegedly fired a gun at agents. He allegedly may have assaulted said agents and was subsequently held by US Marshalls for 72 hours before being released without charges. Which is not by accident, rather how the law works.

Again, working within the letter of the law and if there were any abuses of power, he certainly should see a nice pay day.

Moral of the story, don’t put yourself in the middle of ICE operations or you are going to have a bad day.
 
ambiturner said:
I love the intrigue. Why did they hold onto this until now? Does ‘the swamp’ finally think it has a shot at Trump? Even if nothing happens it’s super entertaining
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Remember that the mainstream state media is a tool of those in power. Roger Murdoch is being asked to take some of the pressure off of Donald Trump. The focus of the MAGA cult will now be how MSM is publishing hit pieces against their dear leader. What is actually happening is a carefully choreographed release OKed by Donald Trump so that he can go on his dumb social network and type in capital letters “FAKE NEWS” and his cult will then turn their attention and direct their anger towards the media again. The lawsuit against News Corp. will eventually be dropped or settled for some previously agreed upon amount.

You watch. The actions of this administration are entirely predictable. This is all sleight of hand.

Epstein did not kill himself.
 
GravelRider said:
Remember that the mainstream state media is a tool of those in power. Roger Murdoch is being asked to take some of the pressure off of Donald Trump. The focus of the MAGA cult will now be how MSM is publishing hit pieces against their dear leader. What is actually happening is a carefully choreographed release OKed by Donald Trump so that he can go on his dumb social network and type in capital letters “FAKE NEWS” and his cult will then turn their attention and direct their anger towards the media again. The lawsuit against News Corp. will eventually be dropped or settled for some previously agreed upon amount.

You watch. The actions of this administration are entirely predictable. This is all sleight of hand.

Epstein did not kill himself.
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Couldn’t you just as easily construct a narrative where Rupert Murdoch/tucker Carlson/whoever are the ones in power and now have used Trump for whatever they were trying to get and are ready to dispose of him? This is the most flak he’s taken from his own party/followers that I can remember. The democrats are mostly staying out of this one. But you’ve been right about a lot of this stuff so we’ll see.
 
ambiturner said:
Couldn’t you just as easily construct a narrative where Rupert Murdoch/tucker Carlson/whoever are the ones in power and now have used Trump for whatever they were trying to get and are ready to dispose of him? This is the most flak he’s taken from his own party/followers that I can remember. The democrats are mostly staying out of this one. But you’ve been right about a lot of this stuff so we’ll see.
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They are mostly criticizing the people around him. MAGA is still with Trump for the most part. His approval rating among republicans is still > 90%, but he is having some issues with independents.
 
Chrish said:



People on the far right are now openly embracing fascism. There is no longer any hiding/ pretension.
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Trump told everyone that 'you can come out the closet.'

The two guys that were very problematic were just upset because they knew deep down they weren't gonna win a debate against Mehdi Hasan. It was mostly frustration IMO.
 
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Splenda88 said:
Trump told everyone that 'you can come out the closet.'

The two guys that were very problematic were just upset because they knew deep down they weren't gonna win a debate against Mehdi Hasan. It was mostly frustration IMO.
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This is why lawmakers in Minnesota were killed IMO.
 
ambiturner said:
Couldn’t you just as easily construct a narrative where Rupert Murdoch/tucker Carlson/whoever are the ones in power and now have used Trump for whatever they were trying to get and are ready to dispose of him? This is the most flak he’s taken from his own party/followers that I can remember. The democrats are mostly staying out of this one. But you’ve been right about a lot of this stuff so we’ll see.
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No way. Trump is the most significant figurehead of that “movement.” MAGA likely dies with him. JD Vance wearing eyeliner just doesn’t work as well on the body of Rambo riding a tank t-shirt. The Epstein stuff has been simmering and Trump is likely caught up in it. He made a misstep in trying to make it go away. Now he will use the media to distract and have his followers direct their ire towards the media (and away from him). The Epstein birthday card was an obvious Trump-team plant.

Tucker Carlson is a social media clown that thrives off outrage generation. He knows what will generate “clicks” and “views,” so to speak.

I’m always right. Epstein didn’t kill himself.
 
Chrish said:
This is why lawmakers in Minnesota were killed IMO.
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Both parties have failed the American people (mostly the bottom 60-70%).

The Trump appeal is partly the electorate giving the middle finger to the establishment of both parties. However, I think it's misguided.
 
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