Bin Laden is Dead

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The "war on terror" is costing us nearly 2 trillion dollars and climbing, 1 million casualties (95% being civilians) of the number which is increasing for a ****ing Bin Laden's dead speach? It's quite preposterous to believe the USA is triumphant in any way with those stats. It seems there's only one winner here and that's Bin Laden. Maybe it's just me...
 
arveloz28 said:
The "war on terror" is costing us nearly 2 trillion dollars and climbing, 1 million casualties (95% being civilians) of the number which is increasing for a ****ing Bin Laden's dead speach? It's quite preposterous to believe the USA is triumphant in any way with those stats. It seems there's only one winner here and that's Bin Laden. Maybe it's just me...
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Lol. I wonder who made a new profile to come post this.
 
kcin said:
Lol. I wonder who made a new profile to come post this.
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Must be someone with inside info, making a profile a 1-2 months in advance to only post about Bin Laden. I smell something fishy going on here.
 
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arveloz28 said:
The "war on terror" is costing us nearly 2 trillion dollars and climbing, 1 million casualties (95% being civilians) of the number which is increasing for a ****ing Bin Laden's dead speach? It's quite preposterous to believe the USA is triumphant in any way with those stats. It seems there's only one winner here and that's Bin Laden. Maybe it's just me...
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Sweet stats and summary. Get this baby published!
 
i literally LOL'ed in class when i saw that hide and seek champion pic...haha
 
I'm a secret agent that signs in to give obvious useless info... I haven't posted anything because I just search on here and get all the info I need instead of trolling around asking "how to bring up my gpa if...", or hey does anyone have the match list for ...
 
lol good old america. Obamas speech was definitely full of quote worthy material
 
Hilarious how so many of you think that Obama deserves credit for this. Ridiculous. The intel came from Gitmo folks, the same place Barry wanted to shut down. To quote someone regarding this matter from earlier today:

"Obama is the backup quarterback who kneels the ball with 20 seconds left in the game and then claims he was the reason for the win!"
 
andrewmalanga said:
Hilarious how so many of you think that Obama deserves credit for this. Ridiculous. The intel came from Gitmo folks, the same place Barry wanted to shut down. To quote someone regarding this matter from earlier today:

"Obama is the backup quarterback who kneels the ball with 20 seconds left in the game and then claims he was the reason for the win!"
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Thats because CNN pumps americans full of crap and most people believe everything heard on it haha I dont think there could be a more exaggerated news network
 
I'm not going to celebrate death and revenge. What kind of example does that set? Great.
 
Also relevant: The elite forces who broke into his compound.

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andrewmalanga said:
Hilarious how so many of you think that Obama deserves credit for this. Ridiculous. The intel came from Gitmo folks, the same place Barry wanted to shut down.
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Actually.... the info didn't come at all from Gitmo. The info we had from Gitmo said he was still in afghanistan, which was (at least in a literal sense) wrong, as he was a couple hundred miles into Pakistan, even though its all just mountainous no man's land. It is entirely the wrong country.

The intel came from troops under Stan McChrystal, the guy who Obama put in charge of the more refocused effort on afghanistan. McChrystal has a local who had become a leak and worked as an Al Qaieda courrier into and out of afghanistan. The guy lived in a really humble hut in afghanistan, but the troops secretly followed him (likely with spy planes, to be honest) to Pakistan where they realized he was spending a lot of his time in this giganto mansion with multiple layers of physical barricade in the midst of modest houses that fit every definition of what we expected Osama's hide-out to look like. We realized the courier was almost certainly *much* more involved than he was letting on with his little leaks here and there and made a plan to take the building. The last thing done before Obama gave approval was to capture the courier and have him admit he was holding back *big time* on us.

I can't say there has been no intel of use from gitmo. There likely has. But every peice of 'intel' i've heard from there has been totally wrong. See: the multiple intel we got that osama was absolutely still in afghanistan and only entered pakistan briefly after torah bora. Also see: "Nuclear firestorm" the incredibly detailed plan that KSM kept attesting to from Gitmo which stated that a nuclear device was already set up in a major european city and would be detonated the night of Osama Bin Laden's death if he were to ever be killed.

Yea, as far as I know all the cities are still there, so that was bad intel. Every study out there shows that, despite what common sense would tell you, torture gives you >95% completely BS intel, and the few bits of real intel are never the good juicy ones you want. I am not so much trying to defend Obama's actions here as simply point out your assessment of the source of the data was incorrect and, in general, data from the source you suggested is extremely likely to either be nearly useless or entirely made up.
 
Gurki said:
I'm not going to celebrate death and revenge. What kind of example does that set? Great.
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Oh give me a ****in break.......

Life isn't all butterflies and sunshine. Maybe you should show a little empathy for the thousands of families who were broken up because of this bastard.

I'll leave it at that...
 
I just saw the news last night while at the hotel before this morning's interview at AZCOM. They asked me whether it was a good thing or not that we killed him! haha I said yeah because it would at least disorganize their efforts, etc.. then the follow up question was a hypothetical "what if they retaliate and kill a lot of Americans in random super markets with automatic rifles?" I said that would be terrible but unlikely because they've attempted several attacks since 9/11 which have been unsuccessful so they wouldn't have any better chance of it now.

Would have been hilarious if I had no idea he was dead! 😱
 
Colbare said:
I just saw the news last night while at the hotel before this morning's interview at AZCOM. They asked me whether it was a good thing or not that we killed him! haha I said yeah because it would at least disorganize their efforts, etc.. then the follow up question was a hypothetical "what if they retaliate and kill a lot of Americans in random super markets with automatic rifles?" I said that would be terrible but unlikely because they've attempted several attacks since 9/11 which have been unsuccessful so they wouldn't have any better chance of it now.

Would have been hilarious if I had no idea he was dead! 😱
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Uh oh. Have fun in nursing school.
 
Colbare said:
I just saw the news last night while at the hotel before this morning's interview at AZCOM. They asked me whether it was a good thing or not that we killed him! haha I said yeah because it would at least disorganize their efforts, etc.. then the follow up question was a hypothetical "what if they retaliate and kill a lot of Americans in random super markets with automatic rifles?" I said that would be terrible but unlikely because they've attempted several attacks since 9/11 which have been unsuccessful so they wouldn't have any better chance of it now.

Would have been hilarious if I had no idea he was dead! 😱
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Dude, you gave the wrong response to the second question. Should've just said three words: FREEDOM AIN'T FREE!
 
Iswhatis said:
Oh give me a ****in break.......

Life isn't all butterflies and sunshine. Maybe you should show a little empathy for the thousands of families who were broken up because of this bastard.

I'll leave it at that...
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I have empathy. I just don't believe that revenge will bring back any of their loved ones.
 
Colbare said:
I just saw the news last night while at the hotel before this morning's interview at AZCOM. They asked me whether it was a good thing or not that we killed him! haha I said yeah because it would at least disorganize their efforts, etc.. then the follow up question was a hypothetical "what if they retaliate and kill a lot of Americans in random super markets with automatic rifles?" I said that would be terrible but unlikely because they've attempted several attacks since 9/11 which have been unsuccessful so they wouldn't have any better chance of it now.

Would have been hilarious if I had no idea he was dead! 😱
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You can't be given a hypothetical and then say it wont happen. That's the point of the hypothetical...

Well I shouldn't say you can't, because obviously you did. I should say you should not.
 
Gurki said:
I have empathy. I just don't believe that revenge will bring back any of their loved ones.
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No one in their right mind believes that revenge will somehow resurrect people, but it at least grants these families a sense of justice, which is something to celebrate after years of mourning and frustration.
 
Iswhatis said:
No one in their right mind believes that revenge will somehow resurrect people, but it at least grants these families a sense of justice, which is something to celebrate after years of mourning and frustration.
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I understand that - I'm saying there is no reason to celebrate like everyone has been.

I'm afraid things may get much worse before they get better. Death rarely solves anything.
 
Gurki said:
I have empathy. I just don't believe that revenge will bring back any of their loved ones.
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We treated him far nicer than he deserved to be treated... He retaliated against ou troops when we went in for the capture. You do that against the cops in America, you get shot, so why should he not have been shot and killed? Plus we gave him a proper islamic burial, and tried to give his body back to his country and they didn't want t.

Not to mention we PLANNED the entire mission it minimize innocent deaths, while Bin Laden planned the deaths of 3000+ people.

I lived in a town where I could see and smell that smoke after the attacks. I'm sorry, but I am very happy he is dead. Obviously you weren't there or anywhere close to it, and obviously you didn't know anyone effected.
 
Iswhatis said:
You can't be given a hypothetical and then say it wont happen. That's the point of the hypothetical...

Well I shouldn't say you can't, because obviously you did. I should say you should not.
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Yeah I said it'd be terrible if that happened.. I didn't know what else to say after that haha what would you have said? The rest of the interview went pretty smoothly. I got into SOMA but I'm hoping to go to AZCOM. The good thing is they told us there were ~50 seats left and not very many left to interview so we'll see :xf:
 
Colbare said:
I just saw the news last night while at the hotel before this morning's interview at AZCOM. They asked me whether it was a good thing or not that we killed him!
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Yeah when I interviewed at AZCOM, the whole union thing in Wisconsin was really hitting it's peak. They asked me all about it for like 15 minutes with all these ridiculous hypotheticals. I thought it was a little much, especially since that was such a hot button, polarizing issue. I'm not sure it's really fair to ask applicants to take sides on stuff like that in an interview.
 
Colbare said:
Yeah I said it'd be terrible if that happened.. I didn't know what else to say after that haha what would you have said? The rest of the interview went pretty smoothly. I got into SOMA but I'm hoping to go to AZCOM. The good thing is they told us there were ~50 seats left and not very many left to interview so we'll see :xf:
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Doesn't really matter what you say, just as long as you answer the question and indicate to the interviewer that you can reason through the information to formulate a structured answer. Not trying to be critical, but just saying that hundreds of people dying would be terrible, but that it probably wouldn't happen, doesn't really scream critical thinking - to me anyway.

I wasn't there, so I don't know how the rest of the interview went, so take this for what it is - an unsubstantiated critique.

Anyway, good luck nabbing one of those seats.
 
fiznat said:
Yeah when I interviewed at AZCOM, the whole union thing in Wisconsin was really hitting it's peak. They asked me all about it for like 15 minutes with all these ridiculous hypotheticals. I thought it was a little much, especially since that was such a hot button, polarizing issue. I'm not sure it's really fair to ask applicants to take sides on stuff like that in an interview.
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Yeah politics aren't my thing either. I agree they should stick to ethical situations or hypothetical problem solving. They didn't ask it like it was a huge deal and they all had a laugh at his own opinion anyway afterward so hopefully it didn't do me in.
 
Iswhatis said:
Doesn't really matter what you say, just as long as you answer the question and indicate to the interviewer that you can reason through the information to formulate a structured answer. Not trying to be critical, but just saying that hundreds of people dying would be terrible, but that it probably wouldn't happen, doesn't really scream critical thinking - to me anyway.

I wasn't there, so I don't know how the rest of the interview went, so take this for what it is - an unsubstantiated critique.

Anyway, good luck nabbing one of those seats.
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Yeah I have a decent idea what they're looking for and gave them a much better example of logical thought process on other questions so we'll see. That one just caught me off guard I guess.

Thanks!
 
andrewmalanga said:
Hilarious how so many of you think that Obama deserves credit for this. Ridiculous. The intel came from Gitmo folks, the same place Barry wanted to shut down. To quote someone regarding this matter from earlier today:

"Obama is the backup quarterback who kneels the ball with 20 seconds left in the game and then claims he was the reason for the win!"
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andrewmalanga said:
Hilarious how so many of you think that Obama deserves credit for this. Ridiculous. The intel came from Gitmo folks, the same place Barry wanted to shut down. To quote someone regarding this matter from earlier today:

"Obama is the backup quarterback who kneels the ball with 20 seconds left in the game and then claims he was the reason for the win!"
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John Stewart had a much better football analogy for how someone should look at this. He said that George W is the guy who was challenged to a football game by Al Qiaeda, and bravely accepted. He lined up his team, played one defensive play on the football field and then sent his linebackers to the gym to play basketball for 6 years. Obama came back, realized that there was still a football game to play, called all his linebackers back to the football field and then had the nose tackle shoot the opposing QB in the side of the head.

Realistically Obama would not have killed Osama without Bush starting a war (Afghanistan) in order to curtail terrorism and hunt down this world criminal. But he completely lost track of what he was doing, got sidetracked beyond belief for 6 years in something that was neither a threat in any way to the US or our allies, nor was it anything to do with the hunt for Bin Laden. Obama did show up and simply reroute troops and got lucky that the intel showed up for him. But you can't give bush full credit when he spends 6 out of the 7 years of the war(s) with the overwhelming majority of our troops in the region in a country we knew with 100% certainty did not have Bin Laden in it. One guy started it and did all the right steps, then he got distracted and did very little productive in this mission to find bin laden. Then a guy who is politically his opposite says he wants to go back and finish what the first president started in eastern afghanistan. Call it whatever you want (good policy or plain luck) he did properly finish what bush started by doing what bush wouldnt, shifting troops away from Iraq and towards the original war zone.
 
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DocEspana said:
John Stewart had a much better football analogy for how someone should look at this. He said that George W is the guy who was challenged to a football game by Al Qiaeda, and bravely accepted. He lined up his team, played one defensive play on the football field and then sent his linebackers to the gym to play basketball for 6 years. Obama came back, realized that there was still a football game to play, called all his linebackers back to the football field and then had the nose tackle shoot the opposing QB in the side of the head.

Realistically Obama would not have killed Osama without Bush starting a war (Afghanistan) in order to curtail terrorism and hunt down this world criminal. But he completely lost track of what he was doing, got sidetracked beyond belief for 6 years in something that was neither a threat in any way to the US or our allies, nor was it anything to do with the hunt for Bin Laden. Obama did show up and simply reroute troops and got lucky that the intel showed up for him. But you can't give bush full credit when he spends 6 out of the 7 years of the war(s) with the overwhelming majority of our troops in the region in a country we knew with 100% certainty did not have Bin Laden in it. One guy started it and did all the right steps, then he got distracted and did very little productive in this mission to find bin laden. Then a guy who is politically his opposite says he wants to go back and finish what the first president started in eastern afghanistan. Call it whatever you want (good policy or plain luck) he did properly finish what bush started by doing what bush wouldnt, shifting troops away from Iraq and towards the original war zone.
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Bin Laden's goal was to financially bleed us. In some ways heaccomplished that.

I say we end our campaigns in the Middle East. Focus on using CIA operatives and drone strikes as advocated by VP Biden to keep al Qaida at bay.

An organization that's as fluid as al Qaida cannot be militarily defeated. It has to become irrelevant. I think the youth protests give hopes to a more democratic less radical middle east.
 
Hope they sprinkled bacon in his white bag before they dumped his ass in the ocean.

Osama's last Facebook status: " BRB somebody's at the door"
 
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