Army board cert pay $6

[DD214_DOC]

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Has this happened to anyone else? My board cert pay was only $6 this month. I'm not sure why?

 

[HighPriest]

Because that's what your specialty board means to the Army. Now get the to a brigade surgeon billet!

No, I don't know what that happened to you, but I empathize for the 46 hours it is going to take you to fix it.

 

[DD214_DOC]

Because that's what your specialty board means to the Army. Now get the to a brigade surgeon billet!

No, I don't know what that happened to you, but I empathize for the 46 hours it is going to take you to fix it.

Yes, well, of course it happens on the LES I need to give to the underwriter before closing.

BCP doesn't, "expire" at any point does it?

 

[HighPriest]

Not that I am aware of.

 

[j4pac]

Yes, well, of course it happens on the LES I need to give to the underwriter before closing.

BCP doesn't, "expire" at any point does it?

That sucks

 

[DD214_DOC]

So personnel told me my board-cert expired in March. I was certified in September of 2014. I'm not sure wtf they're talking about. Does it have something to do with this MOC crap? I thought we had 3 years to do the MCO stuff before we're considered to no longer meet MOC requirements? The ABPN website shows me as still certified.

 

[HighPriest]

Uh, I think the Army would know if your board certification expired 8 years early. And then pay you $6 instead of just $0.

No, dude, 100% chance they screwed up and are completely wrong about this. Consider the options:

Option 1: You, an intelligent professional with a graduate degree forgot or intentionally ignored to take care of your professional standing AND/OR your professional licensing board -which represents thousands of highly paid, intelligent professionals - slipped up.

Option 2: The knuckle-dragging ***** E-2 in the S-1 office drooled on his keyboard and then changed a setting somewhere while he was wiping slobber and cheeto dust off his desktop.

Hmm....

 

[jabreal00]

So personnel told me my board-cert expired in March. I was certified in September of 2014. I'm not sure wtf they're talking about. Does it have something to do with this MOC crap? I thought we had 3 years to do the MCO stuff before we're considered to no longer meet MOC requirements? The ABPN website shows me as still certified.

Even if you are not current with MOC you are still board certified. That has nothing to do with it. It's not like you have to periodically turn in paper work to show you are in good standing. No one from the finance office is also periodically checking online to see that you are meeting MOC. It's a mistake. You may have to talk to several people before you get the correct information. Ask to speak to a manager or supervisor. This should be able to be resolved with your S1 where you are assigned. Furnish your paperwork showing your board certification. They should be able to give you back-pay once it resumes.

 

[Homunculus]

not sure about everyone else but i get email reminders at 90 and 30 days before expiration of pays. when they told you you expired in march, did you ask how they determined that? it was likely a mistake when they initially entered it. should be fixable but like most things it'll be you having to track it down to fix.

--your friendly neighborhood at the mercy of data entry clerks caveman

 

[NavyFP]

Yes, it can expire, but in your case it didn't. If someone fat fingered the date wrong, the computer will cut it off.

Mine "expired" at the end of 2014 and I had not sent the paperwork to fix it. Finally did it in August 2015 and was back paid for the whole year.

A minor annoyance.

 

[DD214_DOC]

Yes, it can expire, but in your case it didn't. If someone fat fingered the date wrong, the computer will cut it off.

Mine "expired" at the end of 2014 and I had not sent the paperwork to fix it. Finally did it in August 2015 and was back paid for the whole year.

A minor annoyance.

Yeah, just someone's error. I'm not really sure what I actually have to send them. I will look in the folder the cert came with and see what else is in there.

 

[DD214_DOC]

Actually, it's NOT an error -- it is because of, as I suspected, the new MOC garbage. None of the paperwork from ABPN referenced any specific date on which certification will expire; it all merely stated that certification was contingent upon meeting MOC requirements. I managed to run across this document (https://application.abpn.com/verifycert/includes/CredentialersMemo.pdf) which explains everything. So, for those of us unfortunate enough to be forced into MOC, we also get to experience the pleasure of somehow proving our continued certification to continue receiving BCP on an annual basis.

 

[bricktamland]

This happened to me several years ago. Navy just stopped paying my BCP. I received no phone call, no email, no notification of any type. They just stopped paying me and didn't say a thing. One day I happened to randomly check my LES and noticed the BCP was gone. I looked back at some prior LES statements and saw this had been going on for several months. Needless to say I was livid.

I found out it was because some nitwit somewhere misinterpreted the wording as such that my board certification had expired (probably the same situation as above). For me, this was clearly not the case since I had just passed my boards one year before. I had to spend an egregious amount of time getting the issue fixed.

Though I haven't had any problems since, that event, for me, was one of those epiphany-type moments where I had to stop and wonder what kind of an organization do I work for--or rather am indentured to? This organization that will harass me to the ends of the earth if I'm a day late reporting my worthless DMHRSI time-sheet, but won't lift a finger to notify me they are shutting off money that I rightfully earned. The military jacks with you so many ways, but once they start f*cking with a person's pay and not telling them, that's crossing the line, it's like finding your car keyed--like Vincent Vega said, "What's more chicken**** than f*cking with a man's automobile? I mean, don't f*ck with another man's vehicle."

As I still waffle on the prospects of joining the reserves after I separate this summer, I'm thankful every time a thread like this comes up. It reminds me there are so many reasons I should completely cut the cord.

 

[Shikima]

This happened to me several years ago. Navy just stopped paying my BCP. I received no phone call, no email, no notification of any type. They just stopped paying me and didn't say a thing. One day I happened to randomly check my LES and noticed the BCP was gone. I looked back at some prior LES statements and saw this had been going on for several months. Needless to say I was livid.

I found out it was because some nitwit somewhere misinterpreted the wording as such that my board certification had expired (probably the same situation as above). For me, this was clearly not the case since I had just passed my boards one year before. I had to spend an egregious amount of time getting the issue fixed.

Though I haven't had any problems since, that event, for me, was one of those epiphany-type moments where I had to stop and wonder what kind of an organization do I work for--or rather am indentured to? This organization that will harass me to the ends of the earth if I'm a day late reporting my worthless DMHRSI time-sheet, but won't lift a finger to notify me they are shutting off money that I rightfully earned. The military jacks with you so many ways, but once they start f*cking with a person's pay and not telling them, that's crossing the line, it's like finding your car keyed--like Vincent Vega said, "What's more chicken**** than f*cking with a man's automobile? I mean, don't f*ck with another man's vehicle."

As I still waffle on the prospects of joining the reserves after I separate this summer, I'm thankful every time a thread like this comes up. It reminds me there are so many reasons I should completely cut the cord.

I made a correction for you in bold.

 

[HighPriest]

I may not have previously mentioned it, but when my current partner was promoted the Army never started paying him in his new grade. Now, keep in mind he had all of the paperwork proving that he had been promoted, his number came up on HRC, everything else listed him as O-4 - and yet even with this preponderance of evidence it took them over 12 months to fix his pay. Then, when they did, they only back paid him for 9 months. Again - this had been over 12 months since his date of rank. At this point he's so close to ETSing that he isn't sure its worth fighting for the last three months, as he doesn't want that fight to draw out past his ETS date and result in his being held over.

You know, just like how that stuff happens on the civilian side?

 

[bricktamland]

I made a correction for you in bold.

Yes, that sounds better. Thanks.

What bothers me the most is the complete lack of notification for something as critical as stopping a person's pay. At least have the decency to tell me. Some admin weeny who clearly doesn't have a clue about medical board certification, completely misinterprets some wording, and without expending any effort to verify his/her misguided conclusion, makes the unilateral choice to cut off my pay and not have the decency to even tell me about it. If the utility company is going to shut off your water or electricity for delinquent bills, you can be absolutely certain they made plenty of efforts for weeks to contact you and warn you, by phone calls, letters, etc. And obviously, the military is fully capable of doing such things. Lord knows if I'm on the dinq list for lapsed Cyber Security training or Chewing 30 Times Before You Swallow training, I'm getting threatening emails, my LPO is bugging me, my training PO is bugging me, my Director is bugging me.

In fact, I can somewhat tolerate the fact that I have to apply for my ASP and ISP pay every year, as ridiculous as it is, and that most years it's late (again, what kind of organization does that??), but stopping my pay without telling me (or better yet warning me with a bit of notice) is flat out inexcusable.

 

[pgg]

Well, just a second there, professor. They, uh, they fixed the glitch. So you won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out naturally.