Boards going P/F!!

[dentalgirl80]

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Any thoughts on boards going pass/fail? I don't know much about the NDBE so i'm curious as to what others think. Also, how are students evaluated for specialties if their schools are P/F?

 

[DrJeff]

Any thoughts on boards going pass/fail? I don't know much about the NDBE so i'm curious as to what others think. Also, how are students evaluated for specialties if their schools are P/F?

Boards going p/f makes sense, since all that really matters is if you pass (or fail ), not whether you pass with a perfect score, or passed right on the number.

Students applying from P/F schools to a specialty program are evaluated based on (but not totally limited to) the following:

Board scores
Letters of recomendation
research/externships/volunteerism/etc
Past reputation (if applicable) of prior residents from that d-school

That will either open or close the door for a potential residency candidate to get and interview, and if and when an interview is granted, it then comes down to does the residency (the program director/attending docs/senior residents/etc) want to basically put up with you for the duration of the program and also does the residency think that you'll fit in with the other potential residents that would be in your year - afterall you do have a great number of hours of interaction with your fellow residents and attending docs, and the program tends to run much smoother when the entire team functions together and gets along (atleast somewhat)

 

[dentalgirl80]

Boards going p/f makes sense, since all that really matters is if you pass (or fail ), not whether you pass with a perfect score, or passed right on the number.

Students applying from P/F schools to a specialty program are evaluated based on (but not totally limited to) the following:

Board scores
Letters of recomendation
research/externships/volunteerism/etc
Past reputation (if applicable) of prior residents from that d-school

That will either open or close the door for a potential residency candidate to get and interview, and if and when an interview is granted, it then comes down to does the residency (the program director/attending docs/senior residents/etc) want to basically put up with you for the duration of the program and also does the residency think that you'll fit in with the other potential residents that would be in your year - afterall you do have a great number of hours of interaction with your fellow residents and attending docs, and the program tends to run much smoother when the entire team functions together and gets along (atleast somewhat)

So Dr. Jeff, do you know if we still get a board score with the new system, and it will be reported officially as either pass/fail? If residencies are just seeing an applicant passing the boards, it seems tough to differentiate b/t applicants

 

[dentalgirl80]

Boards going p/f makes sense, since all that really matters is if you pass (or fail ), not whether you pass with a perfect score, or passed right on the number.

Students applying from P/F schools to a specialty program are evaluated based on (but not totally limited to) the following:

Board scores
Letters of recomendation
research/externships/volunteerism/etc
Past reputation (if applicable) of prior residents from that d-school

That will either open or close the door for a potential residency candidate to get and interview, and if and when an interview is granted, it then comes down to does the residency (the program director/attending docs/senior residents/etc) want to basically put up with you for the duration of the program and also does the residency think that you'll fit in with the other potential residents that would be in your year - afterall you do have a great number of hours of interaction with your fellow residents and attending docs, and the program tends to run much smoother when the entire team functions together and gets along (atleast somewhat)

So Dr. Jeff, do you know if we still get a board score with the new system, and it will be reported officially as either pass/fail? If residencies are just seeing an applicant as having passed the boards, it seems tough to differentiate b/t applicants 🙁

 

[reapply2007]

This is why people go to a p/f school. More pressure on board scores. But students are still ranked and scores tracked for internal purposes, possibly given out to support residency applications.

P/F boards would likely have a score associated as they do now. Board scores presently come back as a P/F and a raw score associated by category. Perhaps the ADA will simply charge additional fees for the test takers to get the numerical scores in order to support a residency application. Everyone else gets the P/F.

 

[sassykat]

This is why people go to a p/f school. More pressure on board scores. But students are still ranked and scores tracked for internal purposes, possibly given out to support residency applications.

This is what I've heard too. Schools keep track of the top students.

 

[Masseter]

When would the switch happen?

 

[Blue Panther]

P/F boards would likely have a score associated as they do now. Board scores presently come back as a P/F and a raw score associated by category. Perhaps the ADA will simply charge additional fees for the test takers to get the numerical scores in order to support a residency application. Everyone else gets the P/F.

I thought the purpose of boards going P/F was so that the residency programs could not use the board scores in evaluating applicants. How is hiding the score from the score report make any difference, except help ADA get rich by paying them to show the scores?????

 

[Decan]

When would the switch happen?

2012...its a shame it isn't June 25th, 2010. 😀

 

[reapply2007]

I thought the purpose of boards going P/F was so that the residency programs could not use the board scores in evaluating applicants. How is hiding the score from the score report make any difference, except help ADA get rich by paying them to show the scores?????

You answered your own question. The ADA gave you what dental students everywhere asked for- P/F board scores. Specialty/AEGD/GPR applicants pay extra. All others pay the standard rate.

 

[Sauce]

Not to stir things up but reapply simply postulated "perhaps..." this will cause a change in fees. To my knowledge this is not the case nor has there been any official talk that this will be the case. Heres another perhaps, perhaps there will be an additional test that will be required to specialize. (sound kinda like the DAT all over again to anyone) All in all we don't know how its going to work so getting all worked up about it doesn't really do anyone any good.